It's crazy to think that our (US) military and most elite special forces units, and they are truly elite, have never experienced the kind of challenges that Israeli forces have to face. It sounds like the challenges are on another level.
Itself so refreshing to hear professionals talking anout thibhs they KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING. So tired of the misinformation and the sheer amount of blatant propoganda on every other news outlet. Thank you so much for this interview.
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Amazing and enlightening interview. Although is a tough subject to discuss is a joy listening to this intelligent and prepared people talking about it. Thank you Jocko and John Spencer.
this guy is a great speaker / educator . The story of the russian attempt to take Kiev airports and what the ukraine military and citizens did to repel them was fascinating. must check out his books.
Finally! I feel like a lot of military-oriented podcasts coming out of the US have been overly focused on the GWOT when there's a conventional land war going on in Europe, against Russian and North Korean soldiers no less. Looking forward to digging into this.
Thanks to John for bringing practical on-the-ground fact-based perspective about Russia-Ukraine war as well as Israeli-Palestinian war. Specifically on Ukraine, and from somebody who grew up there. Looking at all the early atrocities that Russians committed in the beginning of the invasion when their casualties were not that high, and at how they execute captured Ukrainian soldiers on the frontlines and torture them in captivity, it is pretty evident for an average Ukrainian civilian what to expect if Russia takes over when their casualty level is now over 0.5 million and growing. They were dehumanizing Ukrainians in the beginning, and now they are even more furious. Expect a genocide of global proportions on the scale of millions, properties taken, men killed and tortured, women and children raped. So, from Ukrainian perspective the choice to continue resisting is pretty clear. And it bugs me how some people in the western audience continue to push this (Russian) narrative that Ukraine wants to continue war and Russia wants peace 🙄 It couldn’t be more otherwise. Russia, in a very revisionist way, wants to reassert its influence over the region at any cost. And it’s a tragedy that eventually the world will come to learn that, but it might be too late.
I remember all the talk about the tunnels in Gaza, along with urban battle, and thought the Israelis had a unfathomable task to fulfill right off the bat, and knew it, and Netanyahu had said in a few short words, we are declaring war, which said it all. It has turned out much the way I thought it would, so far. The idea of Hamas and Isis etc, is near impossible to eradicate though, it won't go away.
Gaza trip was doing very well from standpoint of food and water. Tgr markets were full of produce from Israel, Jordan, Saudi etc. Kids who were born there from 2004 have not seen a Jew or an Israeli soldier face to face simply because they were not there.
Not only that, but the humanitarian aid that could have made Gaza even more prosperous was stolen by Hamas. They used it to build tunnels, buy weapons, and get rich and move to Qatar like Mr Greedy, the late Haniyeh.
Hey Jocko and Echo! Love your channel and podcast-y’all are awesome! I had an idea: how about interviewing soldiers or military personnel from allied countries like Ukraine and Israel? It could be really insightful. Also, having people who are radically different from you, like Michael Moore or whoever, would be super interesting! Thanks for everything you do, and keep up the great work!
How is that diverse thought, only having on the two zionist nations? What about the others? Israel is no ally of america either, they have killed american soldiers
Good podcast, with a guest who knows what he is talking about. Now reading the comments of all the people who fall for Hamas propaganda. It is sickening.
@@Atowns The doctors that are there? The many aid organizations? This is a man who's getting upset about what he saw oct 7th 1:20:00, and despite all his connections over there, he's never once seen how they treated those that live in Gaza, WB, and southern Lebanon.
Thank you from an Israeli, for spreading these facts. I think some of the reasons why Israel did not release the full footage of October 7: 1. Israelis, Jews, are traumatized. Collective memories of the Holocaust and Pogroms etc. make this hellish day even more hard to bear. 2. Israelis are very proud people, perhaps too much. It's very hard for us to show the world how hurt we are. We as people still haven't completely processed, we're quite far away from it in many ways, the acts of October 7.
Thank you for speaking the truth about the war in Gaza. And just to be clear Israel left Gaza in 2005 so for the last 19 years there have not been any Israeli soldiers in there and there was no shortage of food or water. And if anyone thinks about watching the 45 min of horror I advise you to not watch it because there are things that you will never forget.
Gotta respect a man like jocko . Best content on youtube i just finished work and fixed me up hot plate and jocko just uploaded perfect. I heard trump just got elected for president hopefully he sorts some of the problems you guys are experiencing. Love from new Zealand 🤍
Jocko is so spot on, I just sold a $15,000 job today, never went to college, got in with the best of the best word of mouth SoCal construction contractors and all because I studied music for 20 years since age four, Covid shot music out of my life so I continued to pursue construction, I pay rent in cali and have started two small companies and continue to play music and hold a second in command position at my initial job with my boss who set the grounds for half of these things, Jocko I started following three years ago as a ketamine addict, I’m 2 years clean this December , I owe it to you, lord of the rings books and Samuel pressfield’s “the war of art”…. And a distinct message from god which is rarely witnessed but I don’t lead with that if the case doesn’t require
I don't know what to believe about Ukraine.. there has never been good coverage of the conflict, for whatever reason. Therefore it is open for any biased position.
Wonderful guest. 1:31:00 interesting that even Jocko, not a spring chicken, is trying to rationalize why Hamas educate people as they do or what would cause 4,000 Gazans to go on a rape and murder spree. It's a case of thinking "what would make me do what these people do" - which often leads to false conclusion. Can you imagine what would make you kill your own son or daughter or other close kin? Would you do so if they dishonored your family? Now, can you really say you understand what people who answer yes to both these questions actually think? Yes, Palestinians have valid grievances against Israel, but if you actually listen to what they are saying (instead of projecting) it's not about grievances or living standards, it's not even religious per se though it certainly plays a part, it's really about (male) honor.
Yes! Right on point. Palestinian women face gender apartheid just like women in Iran, Afghanistan. If women ran the enclave I bet there would be a better chance for peace.
Oh yeah, I’m sure the people in the comments know more about these wars than a guy who actually put boots on the ground in both conflicts and has dedicated his live to researching military strategy.
Yes we do because some of us have lived in other countries that got destroyed by war and when mostly western miltary or historians speak they are clueless. The balkans and eastern Europe has 1000 years of violent history and alertness about people in your country and neighbours. The us miltary tells you they bad because add simple genetric history written by who. If there was 100 people lined up you couldn't tell you is Ukrainian and russian. Boots on the ground worked but tik tok and telegram also showed what happens
@@MrDummah, a Ukrainian born in Russia here. This guy is legit, did his leg work properly. Be careful with Tik tok and telegram, the onus of filtering the info and looking at all perspectives is on you.
John Spencer, the US has won so many wars: Iraq, WWII, Afghanistan but we somehow lose the peace, other than WWII. Thomas PM Barnett in his "Pentagon's New Map" describes our need for A Department of War, and a Department of everything else where after we win the war we must then win the peace with a different type of organization. In the case of Gaza, Israel should outsource this process to partners with both the power and the expertise to usher in a new government. There a quite a few Palestinians who advocate for peace but lack the infrastructure to build the framework.
It'll never work in Gaza. It's a religious issue there. The answer that no one in the West likes to hear is, Israel needs to take back full control of Gaza, expel all the Jew haters but allow those who are willing to accept a Jewish sovereign state to remain
If you want to hear every Russian government talking point listen to you I guess, this guy is right still doesn’t mean the war shouldn’t end. I bet trump agrees with all this but is still trying to end the conflict mainly to mitigate the risk of a nuclear exchange
This challenged me on my thinking and what i believe. Thank you, always looking for differing perspectives and wanting to see from multiple angles. That being said, I find it interesting that, from John Spencer's perspective, Putin is not smart, but corrupt and stupid, while Ukraine is brilliant, incorruptible, and currently winning. Also, Israel can do nothing wrong and is totally in the right. I'm disappointed. This episode felt like straight propaganda with very little reflection or analyses of urban warfare. I fully believe that this way of thinking, underestimating Putin, is why we are in our current position, on the brink of WWIII. These are our sacred cows, which we are not allowed to question. This felt more like propaganda from John Spencer, rather than insightful war strategy. More Sun Tzu, less Napoleon. My final thought on this podcast reminded me of a story Jocko has told about his early training days, when filling out some sort of form/questionnaire: "The propaganda is excellent and working."
Great episode! A fact that was overlooked is that Russia withdrew from Kiev because a cease fire was negotiated. Ukraine then reneged on the deal and the war continued.
Would love to understand the logic behind. Russia withdrew because they were beaten, period. If they could take the city, they would absolutely do it as it was their main objective.
Jocko, how do you, or anyone here, feel about blackrock $400,000,000 contract in Ukraine, while it’s the I believe 4th largest nation with natural resources.
31:00 And that's exactly the point which should tell us if Ukraine won or loose. Now they're in bad situation. Demographics, morale, air defence etc but tbh 24 feb everyone thought that it's the end of this country WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN
On the Tools channel is demonstrative about dumb behavior, or idle nonsense which becomes dangerous which younger trades people engage in, when they work on construction projects. What it demonstrates is human complacency and laziness. On the episode 'when it all comes crashing down', a dwelling house gable fell onto a street legitimately, the footage was on a security camera. The point that this episode makes, is about human beings and urban environments. This young man is walking to his college with a school bag on his shoulder, clearly worried about his economics, or maths exam he has to sit this day when there is a storm. The gable wall practically falls on his head, and he kind of doesn't even bother to stop. Just goes about his day. This is the strangeness about urban environments, and I've seen it on numerous times. It's not like in Hollywood, where there are actors who are able to 'milk the moment'. Reality is a lot more strange, in how little impact it seems to have on.populations when you would think or believe it would be otherwise.
As does the entire western media - call me a tankie, but if you think the United States placed in geo political & locality as Russia wouldn’t do the same thing, you’re crazy
@guccimane623 I agree with you, there is a whole lot of history and context being left out here. This guys bias is not surprising but his straight deception is annoying. I'd like to see examples of Russian "human wave" tactics, even a single example. How is it we have 100's of hours of combat and not a single video of a human wave attack? He's full of shit
That is extreme russian copium. If they could have taken Keiv, they would have. Everything is documented to to a fine detail, so please don't come here with the "Aaw we will totally withdraw our failing northen invasion forces because we will totally negotiate now". Don't be naive.
A real fight just ended and jocko along w/ brcc and other seal/ex military stayed on the sidelines like cowards! They take the 💰from their media empires but they won’t stand against society’s demise-that’s shameful and cowardly in the greatest way possible. You kept you mouth shut for this💰-go Connecticut
He has a degree in English and both his parents are teachers and this podcast started basically as a book club, it would be concerning if he didn't have a good vocabulary 😂
“Anybody tired of using Ukraine as a proxy in war against Russia?” Those Ukrainians are victims of Putin, no question. But the expansion of the European branch of the American Empire (NATO) is a provocation. The blood of the victims is on the US government’s hands too.
first priority as President Trump have said multiple times is to stop people from dying than do whatever needed to make sure it never happens again, not push Russia further in China hands and work on making world more peaceful and prosperous, prevent ww3 as far as territory and nato, doubt whether Russians would be comfortable with that taking out from them, but Ukraine could join eu to make it easier sell for ukrainian people, but both sides should be willing to talk, negotiate and willing to compromise so news could say that Ukraine defended itself and this was a win so they could sell it to the public smhw
@@Dnrjr969 at the end of the day, each side will ask for moon and stars but it's wouldnt hurt to look as the matter realistically and with common sense
@@Dnrjr969 priority №1 is to stop people from dying, as President Trump have said multiple times then make world peace and prosperous whatever helps to do that , I'm pretty much absolutely fine with
I don't want to be that but guy because I don't know anything about war etc. But... I keep struggling with the fact that Mossad can fit these terrorist with hundreds of explosive walkie talkies and there were not a sign of this hummungus attack from Hahahamas. That does not fit in my head.
Who were the walkitalkies and pagers for? Hezbollah, which is in north , hamas is in the south , israel correctly viewed hezbollah as the biggest threat since it had 150,000 missiles and rockets pointed at israel to it took most of the intel and military power to focus on the threat in the north, hamas however played this really smart , didn’t share the plan with anyone except a handful in the top of hamas and tried to show they want peace in multiple interviews and also didn’t fire rockets in israel for months to make israel feel safe , not to mention israel and it’s military was having alot of internal political struggles also the attack happened during yom kippor and jewish newyear , you can investigate this but don’t try to make everything a grand jewish conspiracy, it’s sick people died in the most horrific way and hamas were the ones doing it and filming it.
Because it's propaganda. This episode made me cringe. The discussion at 1:20:00 is insane as if this all happened in a vacuum and israelis have never been brutal to those living in Gaza and WB (and southern Lebanon)...The dissonance is insane.
@@ngreenwald89 i commented this plus alot more under this same comment and youtube deleted it , stupid world. Jew hatred is okay but if you comment facts it gets deleted.
I appreciated the conversation on Ukraine; it was insightful and engaging. In contrast, the situation in Palestine is deeply disappointing. The complexities surrounding Hamas are undeniable-they’re a persistent issue that complicates peace efforts and impacts civilians severely. However, the actions of the IDF raise serious concerns. Their approach often appears to disregard human life, as evidenced by numerous accusations and documented cases of alleged human rights violations against them. Legal cases have been brought against the IDF in various international courts, highlighting troubling patterns in their operational conduct. The incident involving the USS Liberty back in 1967 is a stark reminder of the unresolved questions surrounding Israeli military actions, even when allies are affected. Despite a tragic outcome, with 34 Americans killed and over 170 wounded, accountability remains elusive. Yet, the unwavering support for Israel from certain factions within the U.S., such as AIPAC, adds a layer of complexity to this issue. AIPAC’s influence over U.S. policy often shields Israel from accountability, regardless of its actions. This support system continues to bolster Israel on the international stage, complicating efforts for a balanced and fair response to the conflict.
It's funny how you guys keep repeating your talking points and ignoring reality. The IDF operates in Gaza with higher standards than any other western military, not to mention non-western militaries. It is unheard of that at time of war one side provides humanitarian aid to the other. Unheard of. Supporting Israel is the only clear moral choice to anyone who can see reality as it is. Any war has ugly sides and certain actions that look like that. That's the nature of war. For the pro-Palestinians, if you want to minimize the price of the war you should pressure the Palestinians to surrender.
So you basically ignored everything John Spencer said from firsthand knowledge about how the IDF is operating. Or maybe you don't realize that in every war you have 18 and 20 year olds who are going to do bad shit. Israel is not unique in that, yet it is unique that the world then goes on to blame it for war crimes continuously. The fact that you bring up a tragic incident from almost 50 years ago when Israel and the US weren't even allies and the entire establishment was different shows more about you and where you're coming from then about any logical point you're trying to make
Ah, the USS Liberty lie - a favorite of Jew haters and conspiracy theorists - is back! It was investigated 50 YEARS ago and was found to be an unfortunate accident. And what’s the point of raising it other than to imply that Israeli’s (ie Jews) are duplicitous evil fks. But that is what you are saying right?
The high standards? IDF proved when they shot on the spot, their own countrymen-hostages, who were unarmed and barely naked. Or when they set a "safe route" for humanitarian convoy of World Kitchen, when Israeli drones three times(!) attacked and killed everybody(this become big tipic because foreign aid workers were killed. What about videos of IDF soldiers posted by themself, destroying civilian buildings, etc. There is ton of it, and you can find it in the Israeli media. As for Siege tactics of cutting water and food from civilians as war crime, wasn't that Israeli Defense minister Gallant admitted himself, that this is exactly what are they going to do? How many hostages were actually rescued by IDF? 1-2? Anybody who reads only Israeli press alone have bigger picture then this guy. There are already plans to bring Israeli settlers, in Gaza, it is plainly stated by Far Right Israeli circles. Ganz was dissmissed because he wanted independent resarch on what and how hapoend on October 7th. This operation has no endgame, no end scenario, except to make Gaza strip unable to live, and force the locals to flee. This guy is talking nonsense, just read Israeli media, there are english editions, make an effort and confront various sources.
Guy, you just listened to an urban warfare expert explain to you how well the idf are working in this war, despite all their faults. What will it take for Islamist sycophants to get it
If Jocko was objective and really wanted to get to the bottom of these conflicts then he should invite the journalist from the Grayzone to offer the other side.
lol, oh yeh the publication bankrolled by the Russians - yeh let’s muddy the waters with more propaganda. I’ll take the Warfare expert over a bought and paid “journalist” with useless opinions, we have enough of them already
You cant see all of the Hamas footage for the same reason you cant read all of the JFK documents. Jocko just took 2 1/2 hours of Israel Propaganda to the dome and didnt once wonder why Hamas doesnt release the footage but Israel releases an edited version. Well armed sheep are still sheep....Jocko should have invited Martyr Made on for this episode.
Hamas did release it all. Israel just compiled what they released and what they found. But sure, go side with those who chant in the streets about the destruction of America
I will never endorse violence, and I absolutely condemn what Hamas has done. That said, it's supremely dishonest to gloss over the atrocities committed by Israel, from the original Nakba to the shooting of non-violent protestors during the march of return, or the illegal invasion into the West Bank who had nothing to do with Hamas nor the atrocities of Oct 7. There are whistle blowers with video evidence of Israeli run concentration camps where they are sexually assaulting and torturing prisoners. The Lancet estimates nearly 200,000 have been slaughtered in Gaza, including innocent men, women, and children. Collective punishment and starvation are war crimes. Blowing up schools, hospitals, and refugee camps are war crimes. The heinous acts committed by Hamas does not grant Israel the right to commit genocide.
There is nothing close to a genocide. You obviously don't know what the nakba was and its events over the course of more than a year and its three parts. Two of those being directed by the invading arabs and the third as a result of the invading arabs actions. The arabs that currently live in Israel are the smart ones who didnt listen to the invading arabs to flee their homes. Taking defensive measures is not the same as an unjustified offensive measure. Genocide is only falsely screamed when its Israel defending itself. Where are all the cries genocide for what Jordan did to 30k arabs trying to take down Jordan, where are the cries of genocide for what Assad did in Syria. What about Egypt's actions and building a double wall on the boarder to keep out MB which almost destabilized and destroyed a fragile Egypt. If you want to know what really happened read Son of Hamas. That is someone with real on the ground knowledge and nothing is sugar coated on either side of the conflict.
recommend you watch natasha hausdorff by winston marshall, where natasha call out the propagandas one by one and explain the legal status of israel having officail legal territories including gaza judea sumeria and jerusalum. maybe will allow you to form your perspective more from international law and the icj and icc decision.
No. What's dishonest is to say you condemn the Hamas but at the same breath attack Israel for defending itself. Israel's enemies will not accept its existence within any borders, they keep fighting it, and keep losing, and keep crying about losing. The Nakba was self inflicted just like the current outcome in Gaza is self inflicted by Palestinians who have no other goal than the destruction of Israel and the murder of all Jews in the region.
Let me paraphrase: " I will never condone violence but Israel is the evil one and at fault". I'm just curious about 2 things, the "West Bank" is West of where? And what is the Nakba? Or what year is the Nakba?
There's zero evidence for the Hannibal directive implementation. Also, civilians are not high ranking officers you would be afraid will spill the beans about military secrets. Never heard of a prison that have a travel agency and fancy hotels, that's just bizarre. There is no real apartheid, like the guest said before, weak-minded people like you stripe words from their meanings. Israeli-Arabs enjoy FULL citizen rights in Israel proper, they can vote, can be elected for parliament, get high education...
@@vger9186there is serious gender apartheid and honor killings in Gaza. Palestinian women are not treated well in the enclave, same in Iran and Afghanistan.
What an absolute assault on my free time. This heater opened and now I gotta drop 2.5 hours to listen to this. Great guest. Check.
It's crazy to think that our (US) military and most elite special forces units, and they are truly elite, have never experienced the kind of challenges that Israeli forces have to face. It sounds like the challenges are on another level.
Israel are getting a bloody hiding in south Lebanon. Check real US military expert sources like Colonel Douglas MacGregor or Colonel Wilkerson.
I bet you we are in for rude awakening if we fight a near peer enemy.
What an incredible and fascinating interview! Thanks guys, this was so enlightening. Cheers fellas.
Shout out to the U.S.S Liberty Veterans Association. Jocko should bring them back.
Jocko I really enjoyed this one. That man has a brain full of information and I’m grateful to have been able to hear what he has to say.
Itself so refreshing to hear professionals talking anout thibhs they KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING. So tired of the misinformation and the sheer amount of blatant propoganda on every other news outlet. Thank you so much for this interview.
One of the most informative podcast ever regarding warfare...
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As born Ukrainian i appreciate all the help!!!
John clearly knows what hes talking about. great listen
The timeline option is soo important please add it up. Love the shows
Excellent podcast thank you for one of the most insightful podcasts about the topic of war.
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Thank you for promoting the truth
Hey Jocko, i am a SOF GWOT veteran who also fought in ukraine. Would love to pass on my experiences
God Bless you gentlemen, thank you for your service 🥰 May Gods right hand be upon both Israel and America.
Amazing and enlightening interview. Although is a tough subject to discuss is a joy listening to this intelligent and prepared people talking about it. Thank you Jocko and John Spencer.
Happy Veterans Day Thank you more than you, gentleman, for your services to the country🇺🇸,🫡!
this guy is a great speaker / educator . The story of the russian attempt to take Kiev airports and what the ukraine military and citizens did to repel them was fascinating. must check out his books.
God bless America ! 🇺🇸
Amen!
Finally! I feel like a lot of military-oriented podcasts coming out of the US have been overly focused on the GWOT when there's a conventional land war going on in Europe, against Russian and North Korean soldiers no less. Looking forward to digging into this.
Thanks to John for bringing practical on-the-ground fact-based perspective about Russia-Ukraine war as well as Israeli-Palestinian war.
Specifically on Ukraine, and from somebody who grew up there. Looking at all the early atrocities that Russians committed in the beginning of the invasion when their casualties were not that high, and at how they execute captured Ukrainian soldiers on the frontlines and torture them in captivity, it is pretty evident for an average Ukrainian civilian what to expect if Russia takes over when their casualty level is now over 0.5 million and growing. They were dehumanizing Ukrainians in the beginning, and now they are even more furious. Expect a genocide of global proportions on the scale of millions, properties taken, men killed and tortured, women and children raped. So, from Ukrainian perspective the choice to continue resisting is pretty clear.
And it bugs me how some people in the western audience continue to push this (Russian) narrative that Ukraine wants to continue war and Russia wants peace 🙄 It couldn’t be more otherwise. Russia, in a very revisionist way, wants to reassert its influence over the region at any cost. And it’s a tragedy that eventually the world will come to learn that, but it might be too late.
I remember all the talk about the tunnels in Gaza, along with urban battle, and thought the Israelis had a unfathomable task to fulfill right off the bat, and knew it, and Netanyahu had said in a few short words, we are declaring war, which said it all. It has turned out much the way I thought it would, so far. The idea of Hamas and Isis etc, is near impossible to eradicate though, it won't go away.
Amazing work. You need to develop a documentary with Frontline to this story out.
Thank you for this episode, was really interesting to hear a guest talk about Ukraine in so great detail.
Gaza trip was doing very well from standpoint of food and water. Tgr markets were full of produce from Israel, Jordan, Saudi etc. Kids who were born there from 2004 have not seen a Jew or an Israeli soldier face to face simply because they were not there.
there literally starving over there israel is trying to starve hamas and dont care if some orphans starve too
Not only that, but the humanitarian aid that could have made Gaza even more prosperous was stolen by Hamas. They used it to build tunnels, buy weapons, and get rich and move to Qatar like Mr Greedy, the late Haniyeh.
Exquisite interview, thank you immensely for your determination and attention to detail.
Hey Jocko and Echo! Love your channel and podcast-y’all are awesome! I had an idea: how about interviewing soldiers or military personnel from allied countries like Ukraine and Israel? It could be really insightful.
Also, having people who are radically different from you, like Michael Moore or whoever, would be super interesting!
Thanks for everything you do, and keep up the great work!
How is that diverse thought, only having on the two zionist nations? What about the others? Israel is no ally of america either, they have killed american soldiers
Amazing, John is a true expert
Military genius with moral clarity.
I remember watching CCTV footage of the invasion live now this podcast brings back the memories of it all great podcast
Good podcast, with a guest who knows what he is talking about. Now reading the comments of all the people who fall for Hamas propaganda. It is sickening.
90% dead non combatants
@@lyleburlingame2276😂😂😂 says who, Hamas
Indeed, and same as reading people who fall for russian propaganda.
70% women and children
@@Atowns The doctors that are there? The many aid organizations? This is a man who's getting upset about what he saw oct 7th 1:20:00, and despite all his connections over there, he's never once seen how they treated those that live in Gaza, WB, and southern Lebanon.
Thank you from an Israeli, for spreading these facts.
I think some of the reasons why Israel did not release the full footage of October 7:
1. Israelis, Jews, are traumatized. Collective memories of the Holocaust and Pogroms etc. make this hellish day even more hard to bear.
2. Israelis are very proud people, perhaps too much. It's very hard for us to show the world how hurt we are.
We as people still haven't completely processed, we're quite far away from it in many ways, the acts of October 7.
Everyone hates Israel. And fuck your victim mentality. You started it by taking the land
Thanks gentlemen
The Gazan didn't see IDF soldiers every day from their window... The IDF left in 2005... And also there was no problem of food.
sure they did
@@Kissed1982no
Very interesting conversation! Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you for speaking the truth about the war in Gaza.
And just to be clear Israel left Gaza in 2005 so for the last 19 years there have not been any Israeli soldiers in there and there was no shortage of food or water.
And if anyone thinks about watching the 45 min of horror I advise you to not watch it because there are things that you will never forget.
John Spencer is the truth.
Love these modern war podcasts you should defiantly should try ded do a podcast with an Israeli soldier or sof
Na fuck that shit
This was a great listen
Great interview thanks!
Let’s keep our money to end homelessness for Veterans before sending money to other countries.
There’s about 35,000 of them.
Actually Israel just bought 5Billion dollars of US equipment to help keep defense jobs
Let's not be children
Great analytics!
Gotta respect a man like jocko . Best content on youtube i just finished work and fixed me up hot plate and jocko just uploaded perfect. I heard trump just got elected for president hopefully he sorts some of the problems you guys are experiencing. Love from new Zealand 🤍
Right back to ya mate❤
Just had to brag about that hot plate huh. lol jkjk
This knowledge will come handy thanks ❤
Jocko! Echo! Great to see you
Jocko is so spot on, I just sold a $15,000 job today, never went to college, got in with the best of the best word of mouth SoCal construction contractors and all because I studied music for 20 years since age four, Covid shot music out of my life so I continued to pursue construction, I pay rent in cali and have started two small companies and continue to play music and hold a second in command position at my initial job with my boss who set the grounds for half of these things, Jocko I started following three years ago as a ketamine addict, I’m 2 years clean this December , I owe it to you, lord of the rings books and Samuel pressfield’s “the war of art”…. And a distinct message from god which is rarely witnessed but I don’t lead with that if the case doesn’t require
Also started jiu jitsu haha
I don't know what to believe about Ukraine.. there has never been good coverage of the conflict, for whatever reason. Therefore it is open for any biased position.
There has not been good coverage from Fox News
Good morning America.
Great podcast ❤
Wonderful guest.
1:31:00 interesting that even Jocko, not a spring chicken, is trying to rationalize why Hamas educate people as they do or what would cause 4,000 Gazans to go on a rape and murder spree.
It's a case of thinking "what would make me do what these people do" - which often leads to false conclusion.
Can you imagine what would make you kill your own son or daughter or other close kin? Would you do so if they dishonored your family?
Now, can you really say you understand what people who answer yes to both these questions actually think?
Yes, Palestinians have valid grievances against Israel, but if you actually listen to what they are saying (instead of projecting) it's not about grievances or living standards, it's not even religious per se though it certainly plays a part, it's really about (male) honor.
Yes! Right on point. Palestinian women face gender apartheid just like women in Iran, Afghanistan. If women ran the enclave I bet there would be a better chance for peace.
What a great guest.
I want to see this guy talk to Darryl Cooper.
Oh yeah, I’m sure the people in the comments know more about these wars than a guy who actually put boots on the ground in both conflicts and has dedicated his live to researching military strategy.
Yes we do because some of us have lived in other countries that got destroyed by war and when mostly western miltary or historians speak they are clueless. The balkans and eastern Europe has 1000 years of violent history and alertness about people in your country and neighbours. The us miltary tells you they bad because add simple genetric history written by who.
If there was 100 people lined up you couldn't tell you is Ukrainian and russian.
Boots on the ground worked but tik tok and telegram also showed what happens
@@MrDummah, a Ukrainian born in Russia here. This guy is legit, did his leg work properly. Be careful with Tik tok and telegram, the onus of filtering the info and looking at all perspectives is on you.
Thank you for your service Veterans day 2024
iraqi war was an unjustified war, millions of innocent people have died.
Oh well life goes on just like after every other war in history
Yeh, a fraction by the Americans, the millions killed were by other Muslims. Islam ☕️
@@williamstocker584unfortunately that war ended up empowering Iran
Did he interview the Ghost of Kyiv too?
John Spencer, the US has won so many wars: Iraq, WWII, Afghanistan but we somehow lose the peace, other than WWII.
Thomas PM Barnett in his "Pentagon's New Map" describes our need for A Department of War, and a Department of everything else where after we win the war we must then win the peace with a different type of organization. In the case of Gaza, Israel should outsource this process to partners with both the power and the expertise to usher in a new government. There a quite a few Palestinians who advocate for peace but lack the infrastructure to build the framework.
It'll never work in Gaza. It's a religious issue there. The answer that no one in the West likes to hear is, Israel needs to take back full control of Gaza, expel all the Jew haters but allow those who are willing to accept a Jewish sovereign state to remain
"Nobody will ever come at us from the cliff side. Other than Quebec, Lima Site 85, and Shusha."
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How does he not know thats not even in the ballpark number of troops Russia would need to occupy Ukraine??
If you want to hear every government talking point about the war in Ukraine give this a listen, if you want the truth go listen to anyone else.
Like who?
@SFCzeus202 Scott Ritter, Douglas Macgregor, David Sachs, Scott Horton etc.etc.etc
Same for what they're saying about Gaza.
What a huge disappointment
But I'm not surprised
They're trying to recruit young men for more bankers wars
If you want to hear every Russian government talking point listen to you I guess, this guy is right still doesn’t mean the war shouldn’t end. I bet trump agrees with all this but is still trying to end the conflict mainly to mitigate the risk of a nuclear exchange
This challenged me on my thinking and what i believe. Thank you, always looking for differing perspectives and wanting to see from multiple angles.
That being said, I find it interesting that, from John Spencer's perspective, Putin is not smart, but corrupt and stupid, while Ukraine is brilliant, incorruptible, and currently winning. Also, Israel can do nothing wrong and is totally in the right. I'm disappointed. This episode felt like straight propaganda with very little reflection or analyses of urban warfare. I fully believe that this way of thinking, underestimating Putin, is why we are in our current position, on the brink of WWIII. These are our sacred cows, which we are not allowed to question. This felt more like propaganda from John Spencer, rather than insightful war strategy. More Sun Tzu, less Napoleon.
My final thought on this podcast reminded me of a story Jocko has told about his early training days, when filling out some sort of form/questionnaire: "The propaganda is excellent and working."
Is there a video that John analyses the video more?
This in incredible
Cool to hear the strategic side of things, we hear the high drama and craziness, but the scientific part of all this is great.
Dragons teeth were concrete way back in ww2.
Great episode! A fact that was overlooked is that Russia withdrew from Kiev because a cease fire was negotiated. Ukraine then reneged on the deal and the war continued.
Yes, and BOJO was the messenger to ensure that deal failed.
Wish they would have talked about the Maidan Revolution as well.
Would love to understand the logic behind. Russia withdrew because they were beaten, period. If they could take the city, they would absolutely do it as it was their main objective.
@AntoineDeSaintYT The cease fire deal is a well documented fact
@@DomiAngel, and what were the the conditions of the hypothetical agreement? I want to understand the logic behind.
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Finland has total defense plan in action.
I’m sure they are very happy to now be part of NATO
Brilliant as per usual chaps ✌️
Jocko, how do you, or anyone here, feel about blackrock $400,000,000 contract in Ukraine, while it’s the I believe 4th largest nation with natural resources.
Freaking Awesome episode! Ty
31:00 And that's exactly the point which should tell us if Ukraine won or loose. Now they're in bad situation. Demographics, morale, air defence etc but tbh 24 feb everyone thought that it's the end of this country WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN
Jocko should run for President in 2029
On the Tools channel is demonstrative about dumb behavior, or idle nonsense which becomes dangerous which younger trades people engage in, when they work on construction projects. What it demonstrates is human complacency and laziness. On the episode 'when it all comes crashing down', a dwelling house gable fell onto a street legitimately, the footage was on a security camera. The point that this episode makes, is about human beings and urban environments. This young man is walking to his college with a school bag on his shoulder, clearly worried about his economics, or maths exam he has to sit this day when there is a storm. The gable wall practically falls on his head, and he kind of doesn't even bother to stop. Just goes about his day. This is the strangeness about urban environments, and I've seen it on numerous times. It's not like in Hollywood, where there are actors who are able to 'milk the moment'. Reality is a lot more strange, in how little impact it seems to have on.populations when you would think or believe it would be otherwise.
Thank you for this, the world needs to understand that those things are not accidents. Stand with Israel! Stand with Ukraine!
Is Hamas resupplying at the moment? Are the Philadelphi tunnels found and destroyed or trucks are still coming through?
Russian invasion was illegal but the guest straight lied about their goals and left out the peace talks that led to the withdrawal.
As does the entire western media - call me a tankie, but if you think the United States placed in geo political & locality as Russia wouldn’t do the same thing, you’re crazy
@guccimane623 I agree with you, there is a whole lot of history and context being left out here.
This guys bias is not surprising but his straight deception is annoying.
I'd like to see examples of Russian "human wave" tactics, even a single example. How is it we have 100's of hours of combat and not a single video of a human wave attack?
He's full of shit
That is extreme russian copium. If they could have taken Keiv, they would have. Everything is documented to to a fine detail, so please don't come here with the "Aaw we will totally withdraw our failing northen invasion forces because we will totally negotiate now". Don't be naive.
@ bingo. ‘Meat waves’ …classic propaganda
No, he did not. Russia violated the Minsk agreement they signed almost immediately afterwards and continued to send weapons and troops into Ukraine.
A real fight just ended and jocko along w/ brcc and other seal/ex military stayed on the sidelines like cowards! They take the 💰from their media empires but they won’t stand against society’s demise-that’s shameful and cowardly in the greatest way possible. You kept you mouth shut for this💰-go Connecticut
Where were you? Welcome to the real world kid
Jocko knows alot of big words, it's a little scary. He's a Cerebral Seal
He has a degree in English and both his parents are teachers and this podcast started basically as a book club, it would be concerning if he didn't have a good vocabulary 😂
Anybody else completely over this war shit?
How else are rich politicians supposed to brainwash you to go fight for them?
"Anybody else completely over giving a shit about people being slaughtered and tortured by totalitarian regimes? "
“Anybody tired of using Ukraine as a proxy in war against Russia?”
Those Ukrainians are victims of Putin, no question. But the expansion of the European branch of the American Empire (NATO) is a provocation. The blood of the victims is on the US government’s hands too.
Everyone better calm down, otherwise I'm gonna have to get involved.
Nah. It’s in our DNA 🧬
we need peace in Ukraine asap
And what do you hope that peace looks like?
first priority as President Trump have said multiple times is to stop people from dying
than do whatever needed to make sure it never happens again, not push Russia further in China hands and work on making world more peaceful and prosperous, prevent ww3
as far as territory and nato, doubt whether Russians would be comfortable with that taking out from them, but Ukraine could join eu to make it easier sell for ukrainian people, but both sides should be willing to talk, negotiate and willing to compromise
so news could say that Ukraine defended itself and this was a win so they could sell it to the public smhw
@@Dnrjr969 please, share your thoughts
@@Dnrjr969 at the end of the day, each side will ask for moon and stars but it's wouldnt hurt to look as the matter realistically and with common sense
@@Dnrjr969 priority №1 is to stop people from dying, as President Trump have said multiple times
then make world peace and prosperous
whatever helps to do that , I'm pretty much absolutely fine with
I don't want to be that but guy because I don't know anything about war etc. But... I keep struggling with the fact that Mossad can fit these terrorist with hundreds of explosive walkie talkies and there were not a sign of this hummungus attack from Hahahamas. That does not fit in my head.
Who were the walkitalkies and pagers for? Hezbollah, which is in north , hamas is in the south , israel correctly viewed hezbollah as the biggest threat since it had 150,000 missiles and rockets pointed at israel to it took most of the intel and military power to focus on the threat in the north, hamas however played this really smart , didn’t share the plan with anyone except a handful in the top of hamas and tried to show they want peace in multiple interviews and also didn’t fire rockets in israel for months to make israel feel safe , not to mention israel and it’s military was having alot of internal political struggles also the attack happened during yom kippor and jewish newyear , you can investigate this but don’t try to make everything a grand jewish conspiracy, it’s sick people died in the most horrific way and hamas were the ones doing it and filming it.
Because it's propaganda. This episode made me cringe. The discussion at 1:20:00 is insane as if this all happened in a vacuum and israelis have never been brutal to those living in Gaza and WB (and southern Lebanon)...The dissonance is insane.
Pre Oct 7, Israel thought it didn't need to worry about Hamas and focused its intelligence efforts on the more powerful Hezbollah and Iran.
@@ngreenwald89 i commented this plus alot more under this same comment and youtube deleted it , stupid world. Jew hatred is okay but if you comment facts it gets deleted.
@@omidnamadi9262jeez, I thought it was just me…
I appreciated the conversation on Ukraine; it was insightful and engaging. In contrast, the situation in Palestine is deeply disappointing. The complexities surrounding Hamas are undeniable-they’re a persistent issue that complicates peace efforts and impacts civilians severely. However, the actions of the IDF raise serious concerns. Their approach often appears to disregard human life, as evidenced by numerous accusations and documented cases of alleged human rights violations against them. Legal cases have been brought against the IDF in various international courts, highlighting troubling patterns in their operational conduct.
The incident involving the USS Liberty back in 1967 is a stark reminder of the unresolved questions surrounding Israeli military actions, even when allies are affected. Despite a tragic outcome, with 34 Americans killed and over 170 wounded, accountability remains elusive. Yet, the unwavering support for Israel from certain factions within the U.S., such as AIPAC, adds a layer of complexity to this issue. AIPAC’s influence over U.S. policy often shields Israel from accountability, regardless of its actions. This support system continues to bolster Israel on the international stage, complicating efforts for a balanced and fair response to the conflict.
It's funny how you guys keep repeating your talking points and ignoring reality. The IDF operates in Gaza with higher standards than any other western military, not to mention non-western militaries. It is unheard of that at time of war one side provides humanitarian aid to the other. Unheard of. Supporting Israel is the only clear moral choice to anyone who can see reality as it is. Any war has ugly sides and certain actions that look like that. That's the nature of war. For the pro-Palestinians, if you want to minimize the price of the war you should pressure the Palestinians to surrender.
So you basically ignored everything John Spencer said from firsthand knowledge about how the IDF is operating. Or maybe you don't realize that in every war you have 18 and 20 year olds who are going to do bad shit. Israel is not unique in that, yet it is unique that the world then goes on to blame it for war crimes continuously. The fact that you bring up a tragic incident from almost 50 years ago when Israel and the US weren't even allies and the entire establishment was different shows more about you and where you're coming from then about any logical point you're trying to make
Ah, the USS Liberty lie - a favorite of Jew haters and conspiracy theorists - is back! It was investigated 50 YEARS ago and was found to be an unfortunate accident. And what’s the point of raising it other than to imply that Israeli’s (ie Jews) are duplicitous evil fks. But that is what you are saying right?
The high standards? IDF proved when they shot on the spot, their own countrymen-hostages, who were unarmed and barely naked. Or when they set a "safe route" for humanitarian convoy of World Kitchen, when Israeli drones three times(!) attacked and killed everybody(this become big tipic because foreign aid workers were killed. What about videos of IDF soldiers posted by themself, destroying civilian buildings, etc. There is ton of it, and you can find it in the Israeli media. As for Siege tactics of cutting water and food from civilians as war crime, wasn't that Israeli Defense minister Gallant admitted himself, that this is exactly what are they going to do? How many hostages were actually rescued by IDF? 1-2? Anybody who reads only Israeli press alone have bigger picture then this guy. There are already plans to bring Israeli settlers, in Gaza, it is plainly stated by Far Right Israeli circles. Ganz was dissmissed because he wanted independent resarch on what and how hapoend on October 7th. This operation has no endgame, no end scenario, except to make Gaza strip unable to live, and force the locals to flee. This guy is talking nonsense, just read Israeli media, there are english editions, make an effort and confront various sources.
Guy, you just listened to an urban warfare expert explain to you how well the idf are working in this war, despite all their faults. What will it take for Islamist sycophants to get it
Most of them are here to learn the language like me🤭
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He lied about russia..biased...
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If Jocko was objective and really wanted to get to the bottom of these conflicts then he should invite the journalist from the Grayzone to offer the other side.
SO you are saying maybe he should invite a Hamas member to give his version?
@ American/Canada Jews are not Hamas.
@@normanwilder4935 are you afraid of free speech or that wr might disagree with you
lol, oh yeh the publication bankrolled by the Russians - yeh let’s muddy the waters with more propaganda. I’ll take the Warfare expert over a bought and paid “journalist” with useless opinions, we have enough of them already
@@bigm317 not really
You cant see all of the Hamas footage for the same reason you cant read all of the JFK documents. Jocko just took 2 1/2 hours of Israel Propaganda to the dome and didnt once wonder why Hamas doesnt release the footage but Israel releases an edited version. Well armed sheep are still sheep....Jocko should have invited Martyr Made on for this episode.
Hamas did release it all. Israel just compiled what they released and what they found. But sure, go side with those who chant in the streets about the destruction of America
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I will never endorse violence, and I absolutely condemn what Hamas has done. That said, it's supremely dishonest to gloss over the atrocities committed by Israel, from the original Nakba to the shooting of non-violent protestors during the march of return, or the illegal invasion into the West Bank who had nothing to do with Hamas nor the atrocities of Oct 7. There are whistle blowers with video evidence of Israeli run concentration camps where they are sexually assaulting and torturing prisoners. The Lancet estimates nearly 200,000 have been slaughtered in Gaza, including innocent men, women, and children. Collective punishment and starvation are war crimes. Blowing up schools, hospitals, and refugee camps are war crimes. The heinous acts committed by Hamas does not grant Israel the right to commit genocide.
There is nothing close to a genocide. You obviously don't know what the nakba was and its events over the course of more than a year and its three parts. Two of those being directed by the invading arabs and the third as a result of the invading arabs actions. The arabs that currently live in Israel are the smart ones who didnt listen to the invading arabs to flee their homes. Taking defensive measures is not the same as an unjustified offensive measure.
Genocide is only falsely screamed when its Israel defending itself. Where are all the cries genocide for what Jordan did to 30k arabs trying to take down Jordan, where are the cries of genocide for what Assad did in Syria. What about Egypt's actions and building a double wall on the boarder to keep out MB which almost destabilized and destroyed a fragile Egypt.
If you want to know what really happened read Son of Hamas. That is someone with real on the ground knowledge and nothing is sugar coated on either side of the conflict.
@whitefish2160 - Whatever helps you sleep at night.
recommend you watch natasha hausdorff by winston marshall, where natasha call out the propagandas one by one and explain the legal status of israel having officail legal territories including gaza judea sumeria and jerusalum. maybe will allow you to form your perspective more from international law and the icj and icc decision.
No. What's dishonest is to say you condemn the Hamas but at the same breath attack Israel for defending itself. Israel's enemies will not accept its existence within any borders, they keep fighting it, and keep losing, and keep crying about losing. The Nakba was self inflicted just like the current outcome in Gaza is self inflicted by Palestinians who have no other goal than the destruction of Israel and the murder of all Jews in the region.
Let me paraphrase: " I will never condone violence but Israel is the evil one and at fault". I'm just curious about 2 things, the "West Bank" is West of where? And what is the Nakba? Or what year is the Nakba?
How traumatic growing up in an open air prison camp, what about that Hannibal directive. This guy doesn’t recognize the apartheid.
Apartheid is a lie.
😂😂😂 your Islamist lies don’t work here
There's zero evidence for the Hannibal directive implementation.
Also, civilians are not high ranking officers you would be afraid will spill the beans about military secrets.
Never heard of a prison that have a travel agency and fancy hotels, that's just bizarre.
There is no real apartheid, like the guest said before, weak-minded people like you stripe words from their meanings. Israeli-Arabs enjoy FULL citizen rights in Israel proper, they can vote, can be elected for parliament, get high education...
@@vger9186there is serious gender apartheid and honor killings in Gaza. Palestinian women are not treated well in the enclave, same in Iran and Afghanistan.
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Terrible guest. Very one sided. Contradicts himself.
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