Picking The Most OVERRATED Player In The WORLD In Each Position!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มี.ค. 2024
- Pat is back! And he's is joining Henry & me for one of his favourite subjects, overrated football players! We pick the most overrated squad.. from Martinelli to Liverpool's Szoboszlai, let us know what you think in the comments!
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Pato getting to rant about players he doesn't like. Well played
I am so here for it
Pato feels like i would get into fistfight with him in real life but i love watching the guy he says what were all thinking
Only reason I clicked
Zac has taken the crabby patty formula and ran with it ... respect man!
😂
PVS discussing players he doesn’t like, we are so back
Fucccking hell van Straaten we’re back
Like this to vote for Pat’s squad!
Blind voting for Pat's squad instantly, always go for PvS!
30 seconds in, overrated players - Pat mentions Ward-Prowse. Feels like home😂
Bring a sense of calm to me. Brilliant stuff.
And hes so right, as a west ham fan hes so overrated
And he’s spot on, JWP is awful - also from a West Ham fan
@@jamesgunn7 He's clearly not awful. Not performing great however. Not in the right system imo.
@@Gagefelstead If a Moyes system isn't "right" for JWP, then nothing is. You don't watch him every game - he does nothing, contributes nothing, and even his set-pieces have been terrible for months. Awful
I’m 23 now, Pato brought me into the new world of football stats ect. I feel like he was really ahead of his time, of course Chris in there too. Good to see him kicking on in life. Love you Pat man ❤
Pat is definitely the reason for the rise of xg. He was the first I heard to use and sky only started using it after they took over football daily
@shayavery7851 love Pat but I hate the xG stat can think of so many times it's looker silly. Most recent example Arsenal V Sheff Utd, it was like 2.8 to arsenal..
It could have 3 - 0 when Odegaard scored the first of 6
@@FootballAndSuch that just means that the chances arsenal had overall in the game were low xg chances. They did well to convert the chances they did in the first half, hence them being 5 up
@@shayavery7851 100%, all the website they mentioned id open a new tab instantly and start comparing players 😂
First time watching and it's very frustrating to hear almost all justification for his opinions being stats, quite a few were lacking context
Unfair on Valverde although the price tag is high he's been sensational for Madrid with his work rate pressing chance creation he's the reason madrid are able to play the way they are he's been underrated since Jude arrived
As a Liverpool fan, the reason Diaz doesn’t get shade is because he was so good the first season he was here. Like near unplayable, and then since he was injured, he hasn’t quite looked the same so we are waiting to see if he can find that form again.
Thanks for some more great content Zac. Hope your channel keeps growing, you deserve it. You have come a long way, keep up the great work ❤
Also thanks to Pat and regular guest Henry. We love you guys so much. Thanks for blessing us with your presence 🙏
As a Liverpool fan I do kinda agree with Pato about Diaz. I love him and I think he has been through a lot and been consistent in terms of playing. But I just don’t see the numbers from him. Feels like he will spend a second or two too long on the ball and miss the opportunity to shoot or set up a teammate. Super hopeful he gets the consistently he needs
Fair. He’s definitely got it in him to be complete class
Honestly feel like my boy martinelli and your boy Diaz are both quite overrated tbh.
People don't watch Arsenal enough, when you look at who is playing on the left side compared to our right side you can see why Martinelli struggles more, Saka has Odegaard feeding him & Ben White making overlapping runs off the ball, on the LW Martinelli has Havertz feeding him & Zinchenko who always plays in the midfield so Martinelli is just left out on his own! Last season he had Xhaka who did so much for him, he isn't having an amazing season but there are many factors for that!
Yeah, I was going to make a similar comment. When we brought in Rice and Havertz, it introduced two players that didn’t know our system at all, and I think that had a big impact on Martinelli’s output before Christmas. There is a lot of choreographed off-the-ball movement involved in our positional play, and it meant we were always going to be less dialed-in on that side of the pitch this season. It also allowed opposition teams to double up on both Saka and Martinelli early in the season, because we struggled to progress the ball through the center of the pitch due to Rice and Havertz’s lack of familiarity. A lot of that has been rectified since the new year started and you’re seeing Martinelli affecting games much more now. I think he’ll have a big season next year if we can strengthen the striker position, adding even more threat through the middle, thereby leaving him more space to operate 1v1 out wide.
Martinelli is underrated if anything. He is amazing at his role
henry said costa was from benfica😭😭
He said they lost to porto, i’m like he plays there 😂
When PVS started talking about Toney I couldn't contain my laughter! Good to have the team back together!
And he's so right about him aswell
Excellent, excellent stuff Zac and co! Exactly the type of content I'm looking for, the craic mixed with some actual analysis 👍🏻
Love to see Patto back and to hear he's doing well
This is the perfect topic for Pat, very excited. Great work, zac
Like this to vote for Henry’s squad!
Henry in an underrated 11 vs PVS
Raya as a bad shout. Only reason he thinks Raya is overrated is because Ramsdale's shot stopping is better, which to my knowledge nobody disputes. But he most certainly is an improvement; cross claiming, ball playing, composure.
Yep, Raya has been excellent this season.
Feels like an OG football daily video. Love to see it, thanks for keeping the content coming!
The thing that all three are missing on Szoboszlai is that in addition to be being quite good on the pitch, he’s extremely hot - hard to be over rated when you’re that hot…
Well said
Hahaha fair play
Patoooo, Henryyyyy, Zaaaack, its the old team all together again (well, part of them) yeeees.
Agreed about Oshimen by the way, I hope he succeeds but there is something about him where I just think that Napoli is where its at for him and going elsewhere will go the Lukaku way or something similar.
Same about Tony man, he is a good footballer but I remember one of the interviews I think you guys did with him when he came up to Premier league, before the first season even and there was a question about his Fifa rating of speed that was like 92 or something and he was saying that he deserves a higher one, a 100 even or something. I immidiately kinda disconnected from him mentally and knew I wouldnt be rooting for someone like that. It reminded me of why I dislike Salah, after that comment about how Harry Kane was the best striker in PL, untill he came, but at least Salah is world class and could concievably back up that claim.
Zac's hosting abilites have risen significantly since this channel, great work man, loving all the content!
Still think he tries to talk too much, especially talking over other people. But I agree he's improved since starting this channel and the content/guests he's got are top notch
The content we all needed 🙏
lol its hilarious how this channel is getting more views than FD now
I wish this could be 5 hours long
Zac’s reasoning behind Osimhen is the exact thing I’m worried about too. I haven’t said it much cause I know I’ll get slapped up verbally lol, but I genuinely have been concerned about him joining Chelsea cause of the price tag and his injury issues. But I know EXACTLY what Zac means when he says “I just have a feeling” cause my gut tells me it’s going to go wrong too lol
I’m glad someone gets what I’m on about 😂
I was saying he was overrated right after he finished his golden boot , good thing you are waiting I was called racist lol
Whenever I watch his goals he still looks a little clumsy I dunno how to explain it 😂 also serie a is a weaker league & he’s had one great season
Such a stupid thing to say Luiz scored 9 and 5 assists but 4 were pens so he has 5 ??? You can tell he's not played football before, he's taking pens in the Premier league is harder than you think
You guys are all I need for football commentary
Get Chris hamill on
Pat’s Carvajal take aged like fine wine. He’s now getting ballon d’Or shouts from winning all major trophies. Top career and good individual season. Far from a top 10 player in the world.
40:10
If people are paying 116 million for Caicedo
then people should pay more than 250 million for Valverde
Real Madrid plays Vini as LW and Rodrygo as ST, so they don't have RW
Carvajal is 32 and became slow
So that entire right-hand side is handled by one guy, Fede Valverde
Fede can tackle, press, run non stop for whole game, good in passing, have high speed, create chances, shoot from distance, captain material, very high ball recoveries
what else you want? he is very good at everything
He played in 50 consecutively in 23/24 season without any injuries
Still not get enough appreciation
People judge him because he scores and assists less, Fede is a midfielder not a striker or winger
And football is much bigger than just goals and assists
Can't believe Alphonso Davies wasn't mentioned
this content has been top, top tier lately
Shaw one hurts. One of United’s best players last season but his performances do vary season to season and looks like the recurring injuries are back. I’m not surprised that it’s a position that’s being targeted by the board.
Yes Zac lad get in. Loving the channel. Can you bring back Stat wars
nice to see you three together again.
“Everton Are pretty good right now” When was this episode filmed????
They're actually quite high on a lot of stats and these guys love stats, so not too surprising
Saying Martinelli should be worth double Nico Williams is mad.
This is the new FD and I'm here for it. You just need to try and get Hamill on now. Assuming TIFO will allow it 🤞
Well, this hasn't aged well after this weekends games. Ramsdale playing for Arsenal and fucking up giving Brentford a goal, further reinforcing Raya's place in the team. Oh dear!
and after the porto game
Bad take on Kounde. During the 1st half of the season when Araujo was injured, Kounde was our best CB. Then he got a nasty knee injury and was rushed back so the past few months he's been in poor form. Recently he's been solid and he locked up Kvara in both legs vs Napoli.
Feel like Pat has always had a soft spot for Zac almost like a little brotha or almost weirdly like a son😂 it’s kinda wholesome
Fede Valverde is actually underrated imo. He’s the engine of that midfield and technically he’s not poor either, gotta remember Real Madrid are injury prone side
I think what Pato said about Tomori applies to Valverde: "if he's at your club, you've got nothing to complain about - but you wouldn't sign him"
@@Maffchops Valverde has essentially the same role as Declan Rice since tchoumeni moved to CB. He’s been great for about 3 seasons, there’s not much difference between the two but Rice is deemed world class. Anyone would love to have him
Great vid lads
Great video choice for Pat. I know he’s going to say some outrageous things just to get a reaction as usual
Feeling grateful for these 3 boys. Bring this lineup every week please.
Liverpool fans said dominik should be in the team of the season after 8-10 match weeks. I’m pretty sure 70-80% general football fans said the same. He was really good and probably one of the best midfielders in the league. He then had 2-3 games where he was off the boil and then he got injured. I haven’t seen any liverpool fan putting him in the team of the season or even saying he’s been Liverpools best midfielder for the past 2-3 months at least. If this list was made 4 months ago, there’s an argument that people rated him highly maybe deservedly. Right now putting dom in there is a big L from zac.
This episode is absolute class from start to finish
good stuff Zac! 👏
oh I missed pat so much. Feels like watching football daily before skysports ruined them. Miss those days
Agree with Pat fully on the Toney take. I want Watkins if possible, fills the english quota and isnt a selfish 9 at all
Emil Smith Row to Brentford I'm sold. They need to start trying to put some quality in this team.
Amazing. Well in lads
Zach is right about osihmen. There is something about osihmen in the prem, especially chelsea, that feels off. It’s almost unexplainable but I doesn’t feel like it’s gonna go well
not to be nostalgic, but FD used to be such a rich place to listen about football outside of England. Now I feel, especially as the FD guys are getting more extensive roles in Sky, none of them actually watch/respect football outside of the Prem. Some of the arguments for people being overrated seem to just be they dont play in the Prem.
League criticism was only on PSG players, no?
Even the fact of saying "Raphinha can score against ALAVES but not much else" the dudes been injured so much this season and still managed to put up 1.05 goals and assists per 90. Last season, if one watched Barcelona, given Xavi played with only two up front and 4 midfielders, Lewandowski dropped off after the WC and Dembele got injured, Raphinha carried the Barcelona attack for the second half of the season where they WON the league. But ofc Henry dismisses that by saying, well he only scores against lower level opposition in La Liga. Im not saying Barcelona or Raphinha are perfect, but if we can afford so much context when analyzing the Prem, at least just go on understat or fbref before criticizing a player without reason@@elidir
@@UmarAli-wy2xt The overrated discussion is a bit of a fallacy anyway. You need to watch every game, otherwise you're saying player A is actually 80% good, not 85% like most people think (who's "most people"? No one's doing a survey). Truly overrated players need consistent praise and be underperforming consistently which people catch onto too quickly for their reputation to hold. Basically I wouldn't take it too seriously.
raphinha's goals this season:
Betis, Getafe, Almeria and Mallorca
thats a fair point. I shouldn't have taken the tone of the discussion of "overrated" players as seriously. But I have watched these guys for a long time, my general feeling is their knowledge of European football outside of the prem as a whole has dipped, which is sad@@elidir
I watched every Madrid game this season and Valverde is the third best midfielder at Real Madrid after Jude and Kroos. Watch these players before judging them.
Pat in the thumbnail, I click
The Bissouma post Luton fall off is way overstated imo
They hate on Oseimhen and I immediately had my Toni hate eyes out.
Loving Henry’s disassociation at 53:13, wonder if he caught any of what Pat said
Pat was dead on about Ederson
pato ranting about players he hates? never clicked on a vid so fast
Getting Pato back is a major coup, 2nd time watching this. Well played Zack and best wishes
Has there been a video on why basically everyone left football daily?
I'm wondering this too. I know Hamill left to go the TIFO, and Pat apparently left to focus on stuff outside of football content, according to what he said on his last Sunday Vibes episode. The others though, I don't know.
Did a backflip when I saw pat nice 1 zac
The narrative around Pickford is unbelievable. He consistently plays excellent for Everton and there is still people who thinks he only plays good for England
Calls Martinelli overrated then defends Doku from that label. Lmao.
Loving the show Zac up their if not better than FD nvr thought I'd say that
Dalot shout was atrocious lol.
I see Pat i open the video straight away 😂😂
Why Porto thrashing Benfica 5-0 damaged a chance of Costa - a Porto Gk - to move on a big transfer?
Ederson is harsh, he came up with some great saves for their treble win last season
The amount of times Pato slams the table in the next minute-ish 52:50
fede valverde is such a good player that’s a wild shout
to be fair to pato, carvajal was ASSSSSS last year, this year he’s been class aside for his amazing assist to yarumchuk the other week
Thank you for mentioning Gvardiol and Doku. My thoughts exactly.
Both are genuinely so overrated but especially gvardiol
@@jamesrutterford576 for now yes but I know how bald satan operates. Gvardiol might absolutely top in few years
@@mateuszzielezinski6069 For sure
quickly becoming my favorite football channel
Martinelli does not get the support that Saka does, when Havertz or Nketiah And Rice in the 8 plays they drift to the right with Saka, White and Odegaard which leaves Martinelli isolated. Look at last season when Xhaka and Jesus played who gave more balance in terms of side bias as the drifted left which helped a lot. Imagine if Martinelli had someone with the qualities of White and Odegaard on his side.
Love thie crew. Such great vibes.
I believe mgw is better then what people realise he was brought into the team as a start player for us and only now fans have realised he’s great at being the middle man which isn’t what was expected he’s great at getting it and changing the flow quickly if we didn’t have him in the line up we’d been arguably 7 maybe more points worse off
The Morgan Gibbs White overrated is nonsense. If you watched Forest week in week out you wouldn't say that. He's miles above the players around him and in a Brighton-esque side he'd stand out.
On the douglas luiz shout as a villa fam i do have to agree. Maybe because he was so poor when he joined so its a huge improvement?Fans were clamouring for him to be praised like KDB for his assist against Luton.
What i would say is his defensive numbers will be lower as Kamara is the main anchor (when he's not injured). Also i think he's great at being the player who provides the assist to the assister.
But otherwise, yeah overrated but most at Villa. Havent seen it from other fans but may just be from my interactions.
Problem these days is footballers are judged by their price rather than their actual quality.
Dougls Luiz is a very good footballer, but as soon as you start talking about 80-100m for him he suddenly doesn't look that good anymore.
So you have players judged on something they dont have any influence on, like the money their club asks for them and the money other club is willing to pay.
Never agreed more with Pat when he was taking about Toney
love the lineup!!!
Madrid fan here and although I love him Valverde certainly isn’t even top 3 midfielders for our team, let alone the world. still class, but his work ethic is best quality he has
Been long time PVS 🎉
we just need dougie on here and world peace will be achieved
ivan toney is the english raul de tomas
This gives me FD flashbacks 😍
Love Zak’s consistency. Always had the worse takes on FD and now he’s taken them set up his own channel to share them. Keep it up Zak
Wasn't too upset with most of these but Martinelli and Kounde didn't really make much sense for me.
Because you think they’re good or because you don’t think they’re rated?
@@rossneil4413 Martinelli is great and gets ragged by a lot of rival fans online, Kounde is just rated beause he's quite good. Barca dropped off but we've seen how good he can be
@@visg8303 martinelli iwnt great and plenty of arsenal fans agree. Kounde I can’t say I have much of an opinion on
@@rossneil4413 I think I'll take Jurgen Klopp's opinion on Martinelli instead of some Arsenal fans on the internet
@@visg8303 klopp being nice about opposition 🤯 that never happens.
The valverde shout is on point. He has heart and stamina but technically lacking compared to the rest of our midfield.
I’m so glad he plays though because he hits a rocket at least once a game. So fun to watch
@@younggoharder true and you need his type of player in every great team. But I agree that he’s a bit overrated by our fans although I love him
gvardiol point from zac is just plainly wrong, one hes not the most expensive defender in the world. and 2 if youve actually watched city this season gvardiol has been a consistent performer at leftback he has the technical ability of a midfielder at left back. it just really shows that you have not watched much of the or any of gvardiol this season if you are genuinely saying hes overrated. he became so good at leipzig whilst playing wide left. he can play either left back or centre back. its just a painful claim to hear when i know you just havent watched him season.
Valverde is much better than camavinga. He's played in every game this season
Thank you so much for this, Zac. Love this. Nostalgic. All the feels. Pato supremacy forever.
To valverde is shameful
Martinelli has been injured, he’s had less support and plays on a team that doesn’t play to his strengths. He’s a striker by trade if you remember.
HE IS IT. If he plays on a team that plays to his strengths, a direct team like Liverpool or Madrid, he’ll be getting balon d’Or shouts
Keeping the dream alive boys.
Thiago, man plays about 12 minutes a season and Liverpool fans go on like he's the second coming of Xavi, played in a Bayern Midfield that were dominating the ball every game