This is how I would order one as well (except maybe a green or tan exterior instead of white).Those steelies are awesome plus a locker! Well played sirs..
Smart move also, because they’ll take a small market share from the people who are just shopping for a mall crawler. The defender will ride 10x better on road vs a Rubicon that won’t be utilized.
It's not just the air suspension - the whole vehicle is a money trap. A mechanic friend believed that he could run a Landrover because he had his own workshop and unlimited repair facilities, and even he only took a short time to realise it was the biggest mistake of his life.
Most of the extras on the 75k seem completely unnecessary on what is supposed to be chosen for its off-road ability. Sadly you miss out in the US on the ingenium diesel engine with better torque. You can blame VWs dieselgate for that missing engine.
Update: the check engine light is off but now the fancy camera system is broke. It's been to the dealership for repair 3 times in a little over 300 miles and they've owned it about 2-3 weeks. At that rate, a cross country trip should only take 18 months....
Update: now with 250 miles, a week at the dealer and a factory engineer on site.....the cameras are still broke, the check enging light is back on, and the engineer is replacing the coils and wires now!
Sometimes less is more. Need versus want. The dealers stock luxury models to make more profit. I am glad you can still place an order for what you want and not have to buy more. I really like what you built there. I would have skipped the jump seat. Best of luck with it. I can see you trading it in for a Bronco in 12 months...
Dealers stock vehicles with more features because they sell faster. No one needs a base model truck that isn't in high demand eating into their floorplan. Some dealers do have base model trucks as their primary mode of inventory if they're a commercial truck dealer.
Don't think it will ever come back to them,it's at the dealer, no known fix,and from what I'm hearing, these new defenders have 2 main faults, a high failure rate, and a low successful repair rate! Diagnosis is now swapping modules and brains which means it is never easy or cheap to fix, and as it's a new model, parts supply is poor! bet JLR are sending a replacement vehicle as it's now WAY past lemon law requirements
They have had all kinds of problems lol. They had a check engine light on with a misfire in one cylinder. Got it fixed and now their camera system does not work at all.
I love the way Tommy describes how much he really likes all of the stuff it doesn't have. The kid's a born salesman. "Yeah sure, it doesn't have any wheels, but the wheels it *doesn't* have are the really nice ones. If you'd like to see something a little cheaper, we're getting one in next week with the engine delete option. It get's two miles to the Big Mac, but the manufacturer recommends using the Quarter Pounder with Cheese.
Congratulation, guys! I actually truly like the base model much more than the X, and yours for the way you've configured it! I wish you many happy miles and trails in it! I look forward to your reviews...and not only of this off-roader.
I love how much you appear to enjoy yourselves. All the things you talk about have no impact on my life here in the UK. As you know the highest point here is about 27 feet above sea level. Going off road here means turning onto your driveway!! But I am a fan. 🇬🇧😉🏔️
It’s still very nice! I would’ve just got it with inline 6 for that extra power kick. But other than that not bad. You got most important option, which is the off-road capability 💪🏼
Vinyl wrap the hood, roof and pillars on gloss black and it will look at least $15k better for $500. 😉 Great buy guys-looking forward to it on the trails.
I can't tell if this will help with depreciation (less to depreciate) or hurt (less desirable), but I'm glad you do reviews like this since it's how most of us common folk would approach something like this! Nice job!
This is why I like this channel. I have been waiting for the defender for years. But nobody is going to review the base model, which to a lot of us makes more sense to own.
I'm not much of an off road driver by any measure, but after this comparison I'd be very likely to spec a defender just like yours, apart from the jump seat. Good review!
Excellent spec in IMHO. I like those cloth seats. The rubber floormats are very nice also. That gauge cluster is perfect. Very sharp looking vehicle. Looking forward to more!
Good purchase Guys. I will watch with interest because I am an old model Defender fan and have therefore not really been keeping up with the new one, sort of poo pooing it actually. Even though I know that it is probably awesome. Love the Tommy line, " The headlining is sitting up there mocking you for not getting the sunroof." Hilarious and what is that crazy music that Roman really enjoys?
Great video! I love the fact you kept it simple. I would have omitted the centre front seat but chosen the other options.. 900 bucks saved! And yes, XM radio is a must. I've got mine set on channel 53 as well.
Best choice I reckon, That's the only spec I would go on a Defender intended for off-roading. I hope they keep the steel wheels as an option for Australia, now that the 4 cil diesel has been replaced by a 6 cil. Look forward for the videos against the Rubicon.
Before watching this video, all of the ones I specced out were at least $70k. So thank you for this video really showcasing that you don't get a hell of a lot more for a hell of a lot more money. After watching this video how on EARTH could anyone think the X is worth $30k more!?
The 90 series would have been even cheaper. I also hear LR will be doing an even cheaper one soon, aimed at the farmers (the better off ones). Seems heated seats should be offered at least as an option. Why didn't you consider a jeep?
I think I'd just prefer to buy a spec'd out new Bronco over a base Defender if you going for functionality over luxury. You would get more luxury, more modern design and some extra perks the Defender doesn't even have at all. But this is a great video to compare a base model to a higher end model for people interested in knowing!
I like that you got the base. Too bad it’s still 55 but applaud you for going cheap. I want to like this. Given that it’s more than a 4 runner even in a good trim I doubt it’s gonna stack up. But let’s see how it does over the year or so you own it.
Regarding rear lights and the tow hooks on the "X" - check out PowerfulUK's channel here on TH-cam- you can swap the rear lights to the Defender X smoked variants, and fit the tow hooks.
jokes on you. Here in austria, we pay an additional 15-30% emissions tax depending on the car. so the base defender here is already at around 78k dollars 🤣🤣
There’s a Defender less than 20 miles from where I live for $54,250. Oddly, it has the cold weather package and I live in Dallas Texas. Much prefer your spec though.
Very nice review! The Italian version of the 110X can cost 135K euros!! Even if they sell these cars also in Europe, here on the Italian Alps this kind of off-roader is almost useless. The 99% of people that buy these cars won’t use them off-road, and, I mean, it’s a shame. They are too big for very tight alpine roads and too expensive to. You can see only a few Jeep Wrangler and Toyota Land Cruiser (the European one) in the three doors versions (unfortunately Mitsubishi does’t sell Pajero’s anymore and will retire completely from European markets). The Best Buy is the Suzuki Jimmy, it’ small, affordable and, on average, very reliable. My dad managed to buy the 2019 new model before a complicated (and useless) European law on CO2 emissions limited the number of Jimmys that could be sold in 2020 (in 2021 only a kind of commercial vehicle version will be available).
I think that Landrover will find it has shot itself in the foot by abandoning its main market for the defender, which is farmers. The new defender isn't really an agricultural vehicle any more! At least it will boost the already good resale value of old ones! It would be interesting to compare the off road and work horse capabilities of a 20 or 30 year old 110 with the defender X... Also, the ongoing maintenance costs!
Good decision guys!!...like u said you r not taking it to the mall or drive on streets... You r taking it off road .... Can't wait to see off-road videos of this defender.... oh and Congrats on your new defender!!!
Great review and congratulations. I looking forward to knowing more about this vehicle. I might have a moment of lunacy and replace my upgraded Tundra. Cheers.
5:58 honestly, that's the one part I don't like so far, I think it's the white paint. however the rest of the car looks pretty good, and cost of a more traditional looking set of steelies isn't that expensive.
Thanks for watching! Check out our first driving experience in our 2020 Land Rover Defender over on TFLnow: th-cam.com/video/a8wnd-em7ss/w-d-xo.html
U guys should purchase an old defender
@@karstencorros6544 you should pay for it
Dips on if you ever want to sell this 😁
Can't believe options on this thing cost more than I paid for a brand new GTI.
Mark my words...You will need every penny you save for repairs.
This is how I would order one as well (except maybe a green or tan exterior instead of white).Those steelies are awesome plus a locker! Well played sirs..
The steelies honestly look better.
"...All Defender 110's in the US come with air suspension" 11:25 How sneaky of LR, guaranteeing a steady stream of revenue from future repairs.
Smart move also, because they’ll take a small market share from the people who are just shopping for a mall crawler. The defender will ride 10x better on road vs a Rubicon that won’t be utilized.
It's not just the air suspension - the whole vehicle is a money trap. A mechanic friend believed that he could run a Landrover because he had his own workshop and unlimited repair facilities, and even he only took a short time to realise it was the biggest mistake of his life.
all about that recurring revenue
Ein Felder it all depends on the model. The LR3 is pretty damn solid
@@user-fz3sz2dj4r it has over 80 ECU's , thats Range Rover and Discovery baby
The best expression of a father to son relationship: "friend and son".
This is the reason I still follow you guys.
Tommy didn't know his father sees a friend in him
Jesus go have a relationship with your father
I love that you went for a base Defender. This is a lot better than those unrealistic ones. Looking forward to the videos!
Yeah, I'm totally diggin it!
Most of the extras on the 75k seem completely unnecessary on what is supposed to be chosen for its off-road ability. Sadly you miss out in the US on the ingenium diesel engine with better torque. You can blame VWs dieselgate for that missing engine.
Agree
False. The base car is never as good as the higher model. NEVER!
Lmaoo, oh those videos have been entered so far
Some wag posted elsewhere that 90% of Land Rovers are still on the Road, the other 10% made it home, GOOD LUCK.
Haha that is awesome.
@@drw1926 Arr You gotta find the good stuff and plagiarize it.
Yeah.. it’s been going around for a while in several versions.
They may brake down all the time, but the owners tend to give them love
@@simpleinverso8628 Just like some guy married to a tart, but he continues to forgive her infidelities.
For those not following, It took 2 days and 167 miles for the check engine light to come on.
Just think, you can have that exact same experience combined with off road capability for far less money with a Jeep Wrangler.
Update: the check engine light is off but now the fancy camera system is broke. It's been to the dealership for repair 3 times in a little over 300 miles and they've owned it about 2-3 weeks. At that rate, a cross country trip should only take 18 months....
@@madmatt2024 Or a bronco (soon!)
For Christ’s sake
Update: now with 250 miles, a week at the dealer and a factory engineer on site.....the cameras are still broke, the check enging light is back on, and the engineer is replacing the coils and wires now!
Sometimes less is more. Need versus want. The dealers stock luxury models to make more profit. I am glad you can still place an order for what you want and not have to buy more. I really like what you built there. I would have skipped the jump seat. Best of luck with it. I can see you trading it in for a Bronco in 12 months...
Dealers stock vehicles with more features because they sell faster. No one needs a base model truck that isn't in high demand eating into their floorplan. Some dealers do have base model trucks as their primary mode of inventory if they're a commercial truck dealer.
Don't think it will ever come back to them,it's at the dealer, no known fix,and from what I'm hearing, these new defenders have 2 main faults, a high failure rate, and a low successful repair rate! Diagnosis is now swapping modules and brains which means it is never easy or cheap to fix, and as it's a new model, parts supply is poor! bet JLR are sending a replacement vehicle as it's now WAY past lemon law requirements
The new defender is just a bling toy, breaks down like a range rover
How has your first few days of ownership gone?
@@Fixin-To Every thing feels like plastic. Not an offroader at all more like a City SUV :(
Half of the options that you mentioned you're missing are pretty much standard on waaay cheaper normal cars... what the heck land rover 😂
We’ve just bought our new Defender with steel wheels and it looks soooooo cool, in Tasman Blue with a white roof, we love it
Until they rust.
@@krane15 In like 20 years, lmao
@ Indian designed 😂 do some research you bigot
@@krane15 they are made of aluminium.
@@axel3895 Did you watch the video?
Congratulations! Looking forward to all content on the Defender 🤙🏼
Cool profile pic Ryan! 👍
My favorite movie!
V8AmericanMuscleCar Thank You! Definitely a timeless classic
Brian Bickle 😂 what would life be without surprises and uncertainty.
Doesn’t exist
Now if the dealership is of distance sure that would be blah 😕
I can’t wait to see what reliability issue they will face while taking it on multiple off road adventures
Looks like it already broke down. LOL!
it’s been 150miles and already
They have had all kinds of problems lol. They had a check engine light on with a misfire in one cylinder. Got it fixed and now their camera system does not work at all.
That’s why You guys are the best! You guys not only review the cars, but you buy them also to review them for long term !
I love the way Tommy describes how much he really likes all of the stuff it doesn't have. The kid's a born salesman.
"Yeah sure, it doesn't have any wheels, but the wheels it *doesn't* have are the really nice ones. If you'd like to see something a little cheaper, we're getting one in next week with the engine delete option. It get's two miles to the Big Mac, but the manufacturer recommends using the Quarter Pounder with Cheese.
Congratulation, guys! I actually truly like the base model much more than the X, and yours for the way you've configured it! I wish you many happy miles and trails in it! I look forward to your reviews...and not only of this off-roader.
"I'll need my friend and son to help me to do that."
Love this :)
And the great video too, of course. Spot on!
I believe this is the most sensible spec! Get all u missing and more from after market at a quarter of the cost! Cheers.
Cool. Want to see what the reliability will be. My experience with Land Rovers has been horrific, but I sure miss them.
I'm looking at buying one. But I can't shake the feeling that I'll love driving it until it breaks down and breaks my heart with it.
HyperXism I gave up with JLR. Selling the évoque was easy. The nightmare problems remain engraved in my small grey matter
This is great. All the other reviewers never talk about the base model, they are always in the decked out models. This is a great comparison.
Nice ride guys. I'd still go for the upgraded version because my offroad rigs have to be daily drivers as well...
Whats not daily drivable about his?
Wise decision. When it depreciates like a stone, you won't loose as much.
I'm pretty sure Defenders will hold their value well, similar to how Wranglers do.
@@kylea2437 - 🤣 It’s already been back to the dealer TWICE in its first week. It’s utter junk. Watch the newer videos
I’m super pumped about this purchase! I just bought a Gladiator Rubicon and the Defender was the only other vehicle on my hit list.
My friend and son, i loved that introduction Roman!
I love how much you appear to enjoy yourselves. All the things you talk about have no impact on my life here in the UK. As you know the highest point here is about 27 feet above sea level. Going off road here means turning onto your driveway!! But I am a fan. 🇬🇧😉🏔️
Man, yours is FAR cooler than those high end models. The wheels alone are amazing.
My opinion coming from someone who had one in Jamaica you got the real thing that’s how I would want it that’s how they used to be big ups
It’s still very nice! I would’ve just got it with inline 6 for that extra power kick. But other than that not bad. You got most important option, which is the off-road capability 💪🏼
Vinyl wrap the hood, roof and pillars on gloss black and it will look at least $15k better for $500. 😉 Great buy guys-looking forward to it on the trails.
I can't wait for all the upcoming Defender content.
I can't tell if this will help with depreciation (less to depreciate) or hurt (less desirable), but I'm glad you do reviews like this since it's how most of us common folk would approach something like this! Nice job!
This is why I like this channel. I have been waiting for the defender for years. But nobody is going to review the base model, which to a lot of us makes more sense to own.
Congrats, nice purchase Roman
Thanks
Good luck with that. I have yet to see one of those without a major defect.
Where did you get that from? they've only been available for 5 months so there aren't any consumer reports on them.
I'm not much of an off road driver by any measure, but after this comparison I'd be very likely to spec a defender just like yours, apart from the jump seat. Good review!
Excellent spec in IMHO. I like those cloth seats. The rubber floormats are very nice also. That gauge cluster is perfect. Very sharp looking vehicle. Looking forward to more!
That fold down seat will make a nice place for the mechanic to set his lunch while it's in for repairs.
Good Choice!
BUT
The real difference is the motor alarm light...in the most expensive Defender...may be don't lights at the first run !😄😄😄
Steelies on off-road vehicles look so good. They look nice on the Defender and they especially look good on the TFL Gladiator.
“Friend and Son, Tommy” (gets teary eyed) nice.
Base is pretty solid already! Bang for Buck!
“Friend and son “ ....whow that’s great !!!
Strongs with the Landie though!!!
😅
Very cool. I just wish you would have bought a 90 instead of the 110. I think the shorter wheelbase would have offered some real advantages offroad.
Good purchase Guys. I will watch with interest because I am an old model Defender fan and have therefore not really been keeping up with the new one, sort of poo pooing it actually. Even though I know that it is probably awesome. Love the Tommy line, " The headlining is sitting up there mocking you for not getting the sunroof." Hilarious and what is that crazy music that Roman really enjoys?
When he said “reliable” lmfao 🤣
Great video! I love the fact you kept it simple. I would have omitted the centre front seat but chosen the other options.. 900 bucks saved! And yes, XM radio is a must. I've got mine set on channel 53 as well.
cant wait to see you guys add mods!!!
Pleasantly surprised how good the no frills model looks next to the loaded ones ! 😲👌🏻👍🏻
Best choice I reckon, That's the only spec I would go on a Defender intended for off-roading. I hope they keep the steel wheels as an option for Australia, now that the 4 cil diesel has been replaced by a 6 cil. Look forward for the videos against the Rubicon.
I would like to know the list of options and how much was each of them??
Update with the TFL defender
At 160 miles check engine at full glory, going back to the Stealership
Have a look at Urban Automotive in the UK they do some superb upgrades for the new Defenders 👍
Good comparison. For me, the only real problem with the base trim is the engine. I want the six.
Before watching this video, all of the ones I specced out were at least $70k. So thank you for this video really showcasing that you don't get a hell of a lot more for a hell of a lot more money.
After watching this video how on EARTH could anyone think the X is worth $30k more!?
@RpM_Evan Not $30k better ;)
I like how the base model has quite a bit of good things compared to other base model vehicles
You should do a comparison video between the cheapest Defender and 4Runner TRDpro
Congratulations guys, that's the one that fits the most with the work you do!
The 90 series would have been even cheaper. I also hear LR will be doing an even cheaper one soon, aimed at the farmers (the better off ones). Seems heated seats should be offered at least as an option. Why didn't you consider a jeep?
you guys should hit up powerful uk to buy the tow eyes and other assorted accessories to bolt on
I think I'd just prefer to buy a spec'd out new Bronco over a base Defender if you going for functionality over luxury. You would get more luxury, more modern design and some extra perks the Defender doesn't even have at all. But this is a great video to compare a base model to a higher end model for people interested in knowing!
The base defender is gorgeous - I prefer it - steelies are awesome
I like that you got the base. Too bad it’s still 55 but applaud you for going cheap. I want to like this. Given that it’s more than a 4 runner even in a good trim I doubt it’s gonna stack up. But let’s see how it does over the year or so you own it.
Regarding rear lights and the tow hooks on the "X" - check out PowerfulUK's channel here on TH-cam- you can swap the rear lights to the Defender X smoked variants, and fit the tow hooks.
The 'Base' Defender is oddly charming
I actually like your affordable defender a lot more than the other models shown. 👍🏼
Thanks for watching this is real good 💯😊 I can modify it with time!! ❤️😀🙏👍
Wrap it! ;)
I'm loving this idea 👍 Great content guys.
Most exciting feature? Three across seating in the front!
2006 called and wanted it's design back.
jokes on you. Here in austria, we pay an additional 15-30% emissions tax depending on the car. so the base defender here is already at around 78k dollars 🤣🤣
There’s a Defender less than 20 miles from where I live for $54,250. Oddly, it has the cold weather package and I live in Dallas Texas. Much prefer your spec though.
The cheapest base trim Defender is the most worthy review to watch
Base one is actually pretty cool...until ot breaks :(
Nice purchase guys...you still have the Trailboss?
Defender X much more to go wrong, the base model is more what the Defender is about.
Very nice review! The Italian version of the 110X can cost 135K euros!! Even if they sell these cars also in Europe, here on the Italian Alps this kind of off-roader is almost useless. The 99% of people that buy these cars won’t use them off-road, and, I mean, it’s a shame. They are too big for very tight alpine roads and too expensive to. You can see only a few Jeep Wrangler and Toyota Land Cruiser (the European one) in the three doors versions (unfortunately Mitsubishi does’t sell Pajero’s anymore and will retire completely from European markets). The Best Buy is the Suzuki Jimmy, it’ small, affordable and, on average, very reliable. My dad managed to buy the 2019 new model before a complicated (and useless) European law on CO2 emissions limited the number of Jimmys that could be sold in 2020 (in 2021 only a kind of commercial vehicle version will be available).
Manual adjusting seats are much lighter, too!
I love the stormtrooper defender! Those steelies are HOT.
Hope you guys spend more time driving it on the road/off-road than driving it to the stealership...good luck!
I like the base model less electronics to worry about
Commercial 90 on coils is the one I'm waiting for. Oh, and a small lottery win!
The steelies look badass!
Crazy this is probably the only video where it’s not broken
Good challenge .. I can not wait until see more honest review
Congratulations on you New Defender
Base model is more realistic than another.
The base model looks better to me, but I enjoy seeing base models of most vehicles because they don't have a bunch of visual trim that does nothing.
I dig your base Defender.
This Base LR Defender is more reliable & will last long compared to the others.
I love those steel wheels.
I think that Landrover will find it has shot itself in the foot by abandoning its main market for the defender, which is farmers. The new defender isn't really an agricultural vehicle any more! At least it will boost the already good resale value of old ones! It would be interesting to compare the off road and work horse capabilities of a 20 or 30 year old 110 with the defender X... Also, the ongoing maintenance costs!
Wow, you can really see the difference between a high and low speced car.
Good decision guys!!...like u said you r not taking it to the mall or drive on streets... You r taking it off road .... Can't wait to see off-road videos of this defender.... oh and Congrats on your new defender!!!
I'm excited. Great idea for a series. Great job guys
Great review and congratulations. I looking forward to knowing more about this vehicle. I might have a moment of lunacy and replace my upgraded Tundra. Cheers.
Very nice spec TFL congratulations, you ordered the essential for off roading, I want to see it in action
I’d buy the 110 i6 diesel with manual seats, analogue gauge, steel wheels and coil springs ; the air suspension is a deal breaker.
5:58 honestly, that's the one part I don't like so far, I think it's the white paint. however the rest of the car looks pretty good, and cost of a more traditional looking set of steelies isn't that expensive.
How would you rank the Volvo XC90 T8 AWD Hybrid vs. those other high option LR's? I think the Volvo is sweet!
Great comparison. Good value for $55k.