There was a Twilight Zone episode about a WWII tank being transported to the little big horn battle. Most of the story was about the soldiers making the decision to interfere in history.
….because the future soldiers could not alter history without also changing future events and possibly Brit own existence; thus most types of the past entry stories merely have the future cried merely completing a past event or remaining neutral to it!
They likely would have negotiated a peaceful ending. They had faced such tactics in Vietnam, so they knew likely outcome against such a large force. That and they are supposed to help peoples oppressed. It is more likely they would have made Custer surrender or even withdraw. Remember what Custer was doing to women and children before this battle, we tend to overlook this fact. Green Beret would never have allowed him to do such actions. It goes against their code of honour.
Depending on what he defines as a Green Beret since modern ones have unit lineage with 4(ish) different units, the M60 was not heavily used by them. The recce and deep penetration units only used them in limited. The QRF and Hatchet force units used them but no more than a regular infantry platoon
@@bragslvbm3870 OK, then Stoner rifles. We're talking four ODAs of 12 men @, plus. No machine guns at all? Get real. Some heavy weapon specialists would have not only M60s, but 60mm mortars and LAWs.
In the long run, not much, at least militarily. The problem is that the Persians started with something like 250,000 soldiers (estimated 120k - 300k). No platoon-sized or company-sized unit will carry enough ammo to make a real dent in an enemy that size. On the other hand, as the saying goes, "You don't win a battle by killing the enemy, you win by making him run away." So, all you would need is a few mortar teams and some ammunition bearers. When mortar rounds start impacting around Xerxes and his generals, the only reasonable explanation would be that the gods were responsible. With the leadrship dead, targeting the front ranks would probably rout the Persian army. There is just no percentage in fighting against the gods.
Another channel did this. Basically, the very existence of the machine gun and how it works, specifically the noise and gory effect, would completely turn the tide, and give the Persians PTSD.
Xerxes and his generals would've been the first targets by Greek snipers/marksmen perching from the cliffs. Losing their entire chain of commands by the unseen enemy, the demoralized Persians made a hastily retreat back to their ships, which could be intercepted by Athenian navy and totally destroyed.
Two things. 1. Sitting Bull was not involved in the battle. He had participated in a religious ritual a day or so before which left him a bloody mess. 2. According to the Indian participants there was no Indian charge against Custer (Reno yes) The Indians said it was more of creeping through the tall grass and undulations of the rounds.
if modern Green Berets went back, they would likely have told the entire 7th Calvary to get the F out of there and re-think the whole thing before the battle started.
How about a Gulf War-era (1991) American tank battalion integrating into the US 1st Armored Division at the Battle of Kasserine Pass during the Allied North Africa campaign in WW2?
bruh! the abrams would FEAST! probably the M60 series as well, since during the storm my unit was using the -60 and we kicked the shit out of the t72...lol
Mixed M1 and Bradley would be interesting. Have to believe with the tech and training of those units, they'd never drive into a trap, and wouldn't work uncoordinated. Also interesting because I think Bradley and Patton were there, and believe Abrams was part of Patton's army?
Custer's Batt. was in a running battle and would not have had time to fortify their position, so any advantage that gave them was null and void. The indians were mostly armed with rifles and crept up thru ravines and coolies.
I think the battle would end up being fairly one sided. Little Bighorn was mostly a strategic blunder, and the green berets wouldn't make the same mistakes.
I suspect only a few, IF armed with one of the ultra high speed mini guns and unlimited ammo. I don't the names and numbers of those guns, but some of them do like 1000 rounds a minute or more, so I think you could just so left to right and right to left, everyone and their horse in front of you would new mowed down.
@@nedkelly2035 You wouldn't have unlimited ammo. it is possible that they would have logistics issues if it were a small number. When they aspirated was it right there with boxes and boxes of ammo, or was it at the fort?
Depending on their load-out I'd say 4 or maybe 8. It really depends on how quickly the berets can make contact and convince the natives how badly their life choices had lead them astray
No 800 is the area target range, granted with 5000 Indians charging your bound to hit something. 550 meters is the max effective range for a point target for an M-16A2.
According to the ballad of the Green Beret, their mission is to help the 'natives to fight off the oppressors, for liberty. To protect the women and children. I expect them to easily rend off Custer' s band of raiders
Nah they would have wasted the Siberian colonists, then came back to modern times and laughed at the dead Siberian colonists constantly whining descendants.
You forget that if they fall into the command structure Custer was still in command, Custer was trying to get enough fame to run for president. He would have squandered the benefits that the Green Berets gave him.
This right here proves once again this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about. Nor wood the GB fight along side the Calvary as suggested but be in flanking positions ready to counter attack the first attack or disrupt its original momentum. They would not use automatic fire but still have superior firepower. However if the native army did not spook at the beginning I’m not sure the 50 added guns would be enough. Especially if they were side by side with the Calvary.
The Guns of The South - is an Alternate History of South Africans bringing the AK Variants back in time to the Confederacy and the impact on the Civil War. On another comment stream, that I viewed, there was speculation on what a single Armored vehicle like a modern tank might have made on the Battle of Gettysburg. Some speculated that a LAV or similar large wheeled armored vehicle would be more effective with its auto cannons and 50 cal. machine guns etc.. One Officer chimed in that the Union Forces would quickly recover from the initial shock and would readily see how to knock the tracks off of the tank with logs pushed into the tracks. I found all those speculations to be interesting.
They would have to get close to the tank first, but I think a Bradley or Stryker would be better, they don't need anti armor capabilities of a tank. The bushmaster on the Bradley with explosive AP rounds would absolutely rule the field
You haven't been to the battle site nor do you have any knowledge about what really happened. In reallity the battle that took place really happened in two places about 5 miles from each other. And very different outcomes for each. If you get the chance I recommend visiting the site and study battle tactics used at the time, you will come back with very different results.
That was interesting. I love the old West. In another episode, how about samurai in the crusades? Or Marine Recon in a Revolutionary or Civil War battle. Thanks again for the video.
I got this idea whilst watching a clip from the series black sails, but long story short... HMS Victory is present for the Battle of Actium in 31 BCE, during the final confrontation between Octavian and Mark Antony that would see the latter's death and end of any major threat to Octavian's rise to emperor of rome. How would this battle play out if HMS Victory is on the side of Mark Anthony? What if HMS Victory was at Actium in 31 BCE?
So let's forget green berets all together. Benteen shows up and he and Reno team up and are able to hold off the Indians force. 100 men with 1800's single shots would have completely changed the outcome. Or not dividing your force 2 or 3 times.
Well actually no even though Custer maybe the ranking officer Green Berets don't fall under those types of Command structures. They run independent operations for a reason.
M-16s,xm-177s( Car 15s) , claymores, 60mm motors and m-60 machine guns ? Depends on where the green berets were deployed? If with Custer they would have beaten back the natives that attacked Custers three companies( at least 500-600 natives dead) unless the Platoon was split up - if that's the case about 15 green berets would have DIED with Custer leaving about 400 plus native warriors dead History has shown that Custer company got " bum rushed" in the tall prairie grass- vicious close in fighting
If you give the Sioux assault rifles and light machine guns before the battle.... no impact. Dividing them into three parts (every group only 17 men strong) as Custer did with the 7th cavalry and two times those 17 against more than 1000 native warriors (like Reno's attack first and than Custer's).... nope. But I doubt a group of Green Berets would be as dumb as Custer bringing them into the same hopeless situation.... 🤔
How about a ww2 American tank platoon or a us cavalry regiment from the Civil War at the battle of Cannae. I say this because one of the biggest weaknesses for the Romans during the battle was weak cavalry which led to them being surrounded on all sides, which in turn caused them to be slaughtered by Hannibal Barca.
SF would have never rode into that Valley like and/ or with Yellow Hair. My Old Man w/ a 12 man Team was overrun by a reinforced Company sized element @/across W Border in the Highlands under Kennedy. He's 80 years old today, still living outside Conroe, Texas. Custer was a fool
Alternate scenario: 50 Green Berets, but they have to use the weapons of the era. Or: Custer's men (or at least some, at the battle) armed with modern weapons and trained to use them.
Great concept but I believe that you have it wrong. Custer was an idiot and was out for glory. His mindset at the time was that he wanted to move fast, find them, fix them and kill them. The reason he chose not to take the Gatling Guns was that he didn't want them slowing him down. He was Calvary first and foremost and wouldn't take foot soldiers with him unless they were mounted on horseback. Wagons would be just as slow, if not slower than the Gatling Guns. So unless you could get these Green Berets up to speed on horseback, meaning they'd have to leave their heavier weapons like the M-60s behind. Combine this with the fact that most of the US forces were caught out in the open on rolling grass land with no cover or concealment and the fact that Custer was going to do what he felt regardless of warnings he'd received from his own staff. Regardless was the GB told him, I believe he'd have made the same stupid mistakes. I believe that the GBs would have made a difference and probably could have gotten some of the men out alive and certainly send many of the Indians running, I think that serving under a self centered idiot like Custer would have been a waste of these men and their abilities.
He only had been offered 2 gattling guns and 2 Hotchkiss repeating cannons. These are great back east with proper roads but out west the damned things where useless, they required 4 horses to pull them and teams of men to man handle them over obstacles, and the frequently rolled over during transport and the where notirious for jamming up. Ever officer experienced in fighting the natives all said the same thing: They where usless. And Custer knew that. What wasn't usless was the king cannon of the west, the Mountain Howitzer. Small enough it can be broken down and transported on the backs of 4 muels with ease. But he didn't have access to them and he was better off not taking the dead weight. I can't believe this is still being argued, this argument had been settled months after the battle...
You and the guys replying to you have no understanding of what the current tactical concepts were in use by the US army and the native Americans at the time. Go do some research about what the typical conduct of native Americans were when their camps were attacked. Then go look at how Custer planned his attack.
If you are going to add hypothetical 50 Green Beret to Custer's men .. it is only fair you add 50 Sioux warriors that were trained veterans of the Rangers .. the outcome would then not change .. the 7th, Custer and the Green Beret would still have their asses handed to them by the Sioux, Cheyenne, and the Rangers .. (:))
You forgot about the claymores each soldier would’ve carried on patrol/ missions. 1 or more carried by each soldier would’ve given them 40 plus claymores which would have given them a huge advantage
How do you see them using the claymore mines? As a defensive perimeter for the flanks or placing them then falling back before detonating them as the enemy takes the ground?
One thing that virtually every visual depiction of the battle of Little Bighorn gets wrong is the hats that the 7th Cav troopers are wearing. Due to army regulations of the time, soldiers were required to purchase their own hats. Straw Boater hats(barber shop quartet hats) were VERY popular because they were only a dime at the sutler's store.
We have photos of Custer's men prior to the battle, they where not wearing those kind of hats, homie. Most of the hats they wore where kepis and forge caps while officers would wear stetsons. So the depictions are accurate as far as hats go.
…..but they were not all assembled at the sand place and time, since there were multiple site engagements during this battle. Also as with modern tactics, not all of the Indian forces would have bed committed in a first wave attack, there were other echelons, reinforcements and scouting forces as well. If a first wave gets defeated a second attack wave may or may not be ordered!
The Twilight Zone: The 7tth is Made Up of Phantoms (1963). A tank crew of an M5 Stuart find themselves at the Battle of the Little Big Horn. Did not end well for the tank crew who did not bring up their Stuart. For reason?
The only problem would be the lack of support weapons, such as M60s, a pair of squads would've added a devastating firepower to the GBs. Naturally the grenade launchers would've been very useful, expecially from the psycholocical factor, indians knew the power of the artillery, but being shot by something that you can't see is very frightful.
Don't forget that some of the Green Berets are of indigenous decent. Also remembering what the US Govt did to their people since the Battle of Little Bighorn. Most if not all of those would probably join the Natives against Custer.
50 Green Berets - that’s four ODAs, the MAJ, and a SGM. So almost a whole company. That means they’d have trained up elements of the Kiowa, Commanche, Utes, and 3 other tribes, 27 towns worth of settlers, and 600 Vaqueros, and surrounded the Lakota, Arapaho, Dakota and Cheyenne encampments. Then negotiated with Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, et al, from a position of strength, convincing them to join forces, move north, and carve out a new Indian nation in Alberta.
If the Warriors at Little Bighorn battlefield had the same firepower as Custer's weapons & support it would've still been a slaughter! I was in VietNam & talking to a Green Beret, he told me 75% of our LRRPS, MIKE FORCES, RANGERS, RECON were killed or missing. If Natives had resources like NVA they would've won against the cavalry or green berets. There were many American Green Berets fighting on American side. WWII we coulda' lost the War without our Native American Warriors/Code Talkers.
If they knew what a war criminal Custer was targeting women and children those Green Berets would fight for the Indians. Indigenous integrating and networking is their historic specialty. 🪓
FOB 4 August 23, 1968, Plei Me October 18-25 1965, Nam Dong July 5-6 1964. Just a few examples of how Green Berets, would've got their asses handed to them by larger forces. If it hadn't been for reinforcements, air strikes and artillery. The Natives were fluid popping up all over, making it hard to pin down a large group of them.
Muskets for the 7th? They would have been armed with the 1873 Trapdoor Carbines, in .45-70, with an effective range off 400 yards. the main problem was rate of fire with the indians using repeaters.
What if the defenders had 5 A-10 Warthogs dropping cluster bombs annihilating thr enemy 5 miles away? What if the defenders had M777 howitzers delivering airburst shrapnel rounds at the enemy? What if the defenders had 5 Bradley IFVs rolling up and opening fire with 25mm and 7.62 machine guns? What if they had AC130s blasting the enemy with 105mm howtizers and 40mm cannons and 20mm Vulcan guns? What if the defenders had 7 .50 BMG quad mounts? What a stupid question. What a stupid, senseless channel.
There are too many problems with this whole scenario. First off numbers and tactics. SF in Vietnam with TOE of that time period VS what you "allowed" them to have for this battle. The numbers and tactics of the Nativees involved. When and where the troops are to be deployed. Custer Hill is a high point when looking from the river, but is not significantly higher than some of the surounding terrain on top. Not having M-60, or other TOE of the Vietnam era, is absurd. Vietnam era SF worked in small team and indigenous troops. For the scenario you have presented almost ANY Vietnam era 50 man unit armed with proper TOE could lay down the fire you suggested. Although there were snipers in Vietnam they were just being reintroduced to the military machine because, after every previous war the powers that be decided snipers were nasty and not necessary. I mean it is fun to wonder, but hey my father used to say "The Alamo would not have fallen if they only had an M-60". hahaha.........De Oppresso Liber
LTC Custer would not have listened to the Special Forces team leader and the Indian warriors would have still kicked their a$$. The Special Forces would have then E&E’d their way out of there and found a way back to the 1970’s.
Going to disagree here. We now know that Indians were using 1866 Winchester Carbine repeaters along with some longer range versions. In truth, they outgunned Custers group with better weapons. And while the Green Berets would have caused much issues, they had to worry about snipers (that was discovered recently). So while Green Berets were better armed and better trained. They were going up against a ratio of over 500 to 1 (min). Since, the common weapon used there is the 1866 Winchester Carbine (Which had a great range with scope), it would been able to do much damage. In the end, they would have done what they did to Custer, wait it out until Green Berets ran low on ammo, then it was over... The silly idea they used mostly arrows and bows is a myth. Yes, they did use those, but it was the repeaters and long ranged scoped rifles (with a range of 460 to 730 meters) that destroyed Custer's group. And finally, we know that Indians didnt charge Custer, they used sneaking and long-range shootouts. Custer was surrounded and heavily outnumbered going up against better weapons of that time than even Custer had. Some of those firearms are highly collectible today because of their ability and range. Want to understand their impact, play a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 and you shall get a general idea how powerful they were. This battle, with Green Beret, likely would have ended in both sides agreeing to stop fighting at best or Green Beret wiped out. The biggest irony, they would experience the same combat tactics against them in Vietnam.
800 meters/yards, essentially,...1/2 mile. Same outcome as the Alamo episode. Complete demoralizing of the enemy. The first 5 min would shut it down. If the 50 GBs only shot a repeated volly out to that range, THAT would probably send the Indians running.
Unless you have a spooky gunship or two, and/or some Sandy's and Cobra's and all modern weapons to go around, mainly automatic weapons, it ends the same, with one exception, that perhaps they are smart enough to stay home in the first place. 2000-3000 indians, some with repeaters, against a handful split into 2 or 3 unit is long odds even with modern weapons. So just the men being different won't do. What if'ing may be fun, but it's useless. Without Air power, I wouldn't attempt it.
Yeah, and if pigs could fly... BTW, by ALL accounts, Sitting Bull, as elder spiritual leader, did not actually participating in the battle, but remained in the village. So, I don't think he gets picked off in the battle.
a painting at 10:45 actually looks like g.a.c is about too shoot himself in the head {im sure not intensional art wise } but hadda comment on it 😝,also love seeing old movies {go tell the spatons} that are near forgotten by most used for representation of war eras past ,well done , btw iv fantasized this AND same idea {alamo} both esp from 1964 twilight zone episode { the 7th is made up of phantoms}good work but id not go further past the event itself in history ,it takes away AND ADDS too much to be changed history wise ,easier too say ," phew ill NEVER mix wine and scotch and BANANAS before sleeping ! makes for cuurazy dreams" 😵💫
Forget modern weapons. If the 50 Green Berets were allowed to make their own tactical decisions, they would’ve remained split off from Custer’s main group. Making a stand like Custer’s men did left them cut off and immobile allowing indigenous hostiles to pick and choose the engagement and control the pace of battle. If 50 Green Berets-even armed with contemporary weaponry-had remained detached from the 7th Cavalry, the indigenous hostiles would’ve found themselves caught between the two forces.
It was victory for the Special Forces until the Indians called in their fleet of C-130 gunships and A-10's which wiped the battlefield clean of white men.
Special forces werent necessary, of course. What if Nathan Bedford Forrest had been in command instead. The idiot , custer , wouldnt have died, neither the 275 men of his command. Forrest would have simply reconned the area, would have known his enemy's strengths, positioned his forces properly to suit the terrain and situation, and in all likelihood have chosen not to attack at all under the circumstances. But then, Forrest was a cavalry genius. Custer was not, despite his own opinion
OK ... First problem - the Special Forces guys would all recognize where they were and what was about to happen. Because of this - they might CHOOSE - not to participate out of fear of disrupting the Time Line. What if Custer Won - and became President? The Biggest Tactical Problem here though - is that the Special Forces guys would be on foot - unless you provided them with vehicles. Being on foot - they probably would not have been able to keep up with the Horse Mounted Cavalry and would have been left behind - unless - the Time Travel Device deposited them directly on the battle field as it was happening. If it did that though - where would it have put them? Being With Reno and Benteen - wouldn't have changed anything. Being with Custer - unless it was on Last Stand Hill - it wouldn't have mattered as they still would have immediately been left behind. Just as the Indians gave up on Reno and Benteen because they were in to formidable a position - the Indians also would have recognized the fire power of the Spec. Forces guys and left them alone while they concentrated on Custer. Here - if deposited directly on Last Stand Hill - the disruption caused by time travel and immediate insertion into a battle would have been a problem until the Spec. Forces guys adjusted. Whether or not they would instantly recognize where they were is questionable. Being immediately inserted into the battle - would have negated any possibility of them being under Custer's Command and integrated into his forces. If they were integrated sooner - then they would have known what was about to happen - and been able to warn Custer about just how many Indians there were in that camp. If they were integrated into Custer's Command - as Infantry - his battle plan would have been completely different as to how he was going to use them - and - it is questionable if Custer would have been willing to do this. He might have left the Infantry behind as he had the Gatling Guns - or - had them with the Supply Train - where they would not have mattered in the Battle. .
Still would have been wiped out !!! ammo would have run out !! 3000 against 50 !!! Cmon don't be ridiculous !! and the green berets were a little smarter than Custer and most likely would not have engaged
The Indians would have heard the sound of full auto weapons, shit their pants, turned around and decided to fight another day. Especially after seeing a few dozen Braves biting the dust. WTF
Sorry, the Indians fought on foot, this has been proved by archaeological investigations of the battlefield. And the tactics used were infiltration and the use of repeating rifles to overwhelm the soldiers. The Green Berets would have been massacred if the were with Custer, but may have survived with Benteen or Reno. There were no massed cavalry charges by the Indians. There was sniping and close range rushes.
Would have been impossible for the snipers to hit Sitting Bull considering he wasn't at the battle. I believe the Indians may have been repulsed at first but would have regrouped and ran the Marines over along with Custer's Troops. The grass was waist high, perfect for sneaky Indians to get very close.
Custer would have been relieved of command. The Green Berets would find an American Indian from among their number to negotiate under a Flag of Truce. There would be a Just Peace with Zero Casualties.
I think many here aren't considering the terrain of the batttlefield. The Army was at a grave disadvantage from the start by being in open the whole time. The Natives took advantage of the hills, slopes, and gulches that they knew like the back of their hands.
I will interject one thing into this battle and not even use the modern soldiers. Custer had 4 Gatling guns at his disposed but didn't bring them along. Had he brought them, the same devastation that the Green Berets would have inflicted with the use of those weapons alone. Just a thought. Besides, Custer was an idiot for splitting his forces without knowing the disposition of his enemy.
Custer ego was so big he would have rejected the special forhe didn't even take the machine guns with him that he was supposed to cause he wanted to travel whireally no m 60s, no claymore's. They would have turned the battle but Custer's ego was just too big even though he's moved by time for the infantry
Ok we don't need to modern soldiers in it. Custer could have changed it simply by taking 1 of 3 gattling guns on the field, which would have changed it
Custer did not take gatling guns with him , if so different outcome!!!!! Was a stupid arrogant officer with a ego the size of heads on mount Rushmore!!!!!
WHAT IF THE PACK TRAIN ARRIVED IN THE HEAT OF BATTLE AND OUT FROM THE BACK OF A COVERED WAGON,JUST AS THE INDIANS ARE CLOSING IN, OUT STEPS GORT, THE ROBOT FROM DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. CAN ONE IMAGINE THE LOOK ON CRAZY HORSE'S AND GALLS FACE WHEN THEIR RIFLES AND BOW AN ARROWS START TO DESINIGRATE.😁😵💫🥴
What if some of those Green Berets were native American's themselves? Would they turn on the cavalry or their fellow SF? What if a special op team landed in 1876 and went with the native tribes? There is a moral and ethical argument there and also the argument for the effect of a less harsh suppression of the natives if there was such a massive victory for the Federal govt.
There was a Twilight Zone episode about a WWII tank being transported to the little big horn battle. Most of the story was about the soldiers making the decision to interfere in history.
Yeah, and at the end, the 3 soldiers get out of the tank with their M1 carbines and run to join the battle on foot.
@paulbilger3782:
They weren't WW2 soldiers. Present time in episode like 1962
That was a stellar episode. Have seen it many times and enjoyed it each time.
….because the future soldiers could not alter history without also changing future events and possibly Brit own existence; thus most types of the past entry stories merely have the future cried merely completing a past event or remaining neutral to it!
Yes - the way they were sliding the .45's and carbine to chamber I though this was directed by Sam Peckinpah!@@txgunguy2766
The 50 Special Forces soldiers wouldn't put themselves in this situation in the first place.
Thank you
They were force multipliers and are trainers of the locals. I'd say use the MacV Sog forces depicted in the Series Tour Of Duty season 3.
Yes, but he did say if 50 Green Berets found themselves transported into this battle.
They likely would have negotiated a peaceful ending. They had faced such tactics in Vietnam, so they knew likely outcome against such a large force. That and they are supposed to help peoples oppressed. It is more likely they would have made Custer surrender or even withdraw. Remember what Custer was doing to women and children before this battle, we tend to overlook this fact. Green Beret would never have allowed him to do such actions. It goes against their code of honour.
@@leth9320 That was the situation portrayed in the movie when their camp was over run.
No M60s? Seriously?
Depending on what he defines as a Green Beret since modern ones have unit lineage with 4(ish) different units, the M60 was not heavily used by them. The recce and deep penetration units only used them in limited. The QRF and Hatchet force units used them but no more than a regular infantry platoon
@@bragslvbm3870 OK, then Stoner rifles. We're talking four ODAs of 12 men @, plus. No machine guns at all? Get real. Some heavy weapon specialists would have not only M60s, but 60mm mortars and LAWs.
@@johntillman6068Stoners were almost exclusively used by Navy Seals. Same for the China Lake grenade launcher. Very few were used by army units.
RPD-44 was famous amongst the green berets though
They had to make it a little fair for the Indians, you see 😂
idea : what if the 300 spatrans were supported by modern greek soldiers
In the long run, not much, at least militarily. The problem is that the Persians started with something like 250,000 soldiers (estimated 120k - 300k). No platoon-sized or company-sized unit will carry enough ammo to make a real dent in an enemy that size.
On the other hand, as the saying goes, "You don't win a battle by killing the enemy, you win by making him run away." So, all you would need is a few mortar teams and some ammunition bearers. When mortar rounds start impacting around Xerxes and his generals, the only reasonable explanation would be that the gods were responsible. With the leadrship dead, targeting the front ranks would probably rout the Persian army. There is just no percentage in fighting against the gods.
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Another channel did this. Basically, the very existence of the machine gun and how it works, specifically the noise and gory effect, would completely turn the tide, and give the Persians PTSD.
Xerxes and his generals would've been the first targets by Greek snipers/marksmen perching from the cliffs. Losing their entire chain of commands by the unseen enemy, the demoralized Persians made a hastily retreat back to their ships, which could be intercepted by Athenian navy and totally destroyed.
Two things. 1. Sitting Bull was not involved in the battle. He had participated in a religious ritual a day or so before which left him a bloody mess. 2. According to the Indian participants there was no Indian charge against Custer (Reno yes) The Indians said it was more of creeping through the tall grass and undulations of the rounds.
Beat me to it about Sitting Bull. He was an old man
if modern Green Berets went back, they would likely have told the entire 7th Calvary to get the F out of there and re-think the whole thing before the battle started.
How about a Gulf War-era (1991) American tank battalion integrating into the US 1st Armored Division at the Battle of Kasserine Pass during the Allied North Africa campaign in WW2?
bruh! the abrams would FEAST! probably the M60 series as well, since during the storm my unit was using the -60 and we kicked the shit out of the t72...lol
Mixed M1 and Bradley would be interesting. Have to believe with the tech and training of those units, they'd never drive into a trap, and wouldn't work uncoordinated. Also interesting because I think Bradley and Patton were there, and believe Abrams was part of Patton's army?
Now that would be interesting 🧐
So, kursk would look much different!
Belgium would probably be a soviet starlight state .
Numbers count.
@@tbone1812 Heck not even the German's and Italian's heaviest AT weapons could even scratch the US' modern MBTs at point blank range. Way too easy 🤣
Custer's Batt. was in a running battle and would not have had time to fortify their position, so any advantage that gave them was null and void. The indians were mostly armed with rifles and crept up thru ravines and coolies.
Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where a M3A3 Stuart tank showed up at Little Big Horn...
I think the battle would end up being fairly one sided. Little Bighorn was mostly a strategic blunder, and the green berets wouldn't make the same mistakes.
Of course not. They would have wiped out the 7th cavalry before they got anywhere near the Sioux
A more interesting consideration. How few Green Berets would it take to be able to turn the tide of the battle? 6? 12? 20?
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@@RexBell303 1 and his name is John Rambo.
I suspect only a few, IF armed with one of the ultra high speed mini guns and unlimited ammo. I don't the names and numbers of those guns, but some of them do like 1000 rounds a minute or more, so I think you could just so left to right and right to left, everyone and their horse in front of you would new mowed down.
@@nedkelly2035 You wouldn't have unlimited ammo. it is possible that they would have logistics issues if it were a small number. When they aspirated was it right there with boxes and boxes of ammo, or was it at the fort?
Depending on their load-out I'd say 4 or maybe 8. It really depends on how quickly the berets can make contact and convince the natives how badly their life choices had lead them astray
800 yard range on point target with an M-16. Battle would have been over faster then Usain Bolt can run the 200
No 800 is the area target range, granted with 5000 Indians charging your bound to hit something. 550 meters is the max effective range for a point target for an M-16A2.
M16A1 max point target range was 460 meters
Spencer - 500m @@williamrausch4245
According to the ballad of the Green Beret, their mission is to help the 'natives to fight off the oppressors, for liberty. To protect the women and children. I expect them to easily rend off Custer' s band of raiders
Nah they would have wasted the Siberian colonists, then came back to modern times and laughed at the dead Siberian colonists constantly whining descendants.
@@KO-js6by Exactly.
You got to be a damm Democrat
You forget that if they fall into the command structure Custer was still in command, Custer was trying to get enough fame to run for president. He would have squandered the benefits that the Green Berets gave him.
I believe they would tell him to take a hike.
@danhardesty6318 they most definitely would, especially if they remember the original battle
Or some "unlucky" accident could've happened to him....
This right here proves once again this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about. Nor wood the GB fight along side the Calvary as suggested but be in flanking positions ready to counter attack the first attack or disrupt its original momentum. They would not use automatic fire but still have superior firepower. However if the native army did not spook at the beginning I’m not sure the 50 added guns would be enough. Especially if they were side by side with the Calvary.
Custer's ego killed his troops.
Instead of Green Berets why not use the modern 7th Cavalry? They are still around you know
Well De Oppresso Liber, wish for 21st century Green Berets soon😂
Maybe the Berets would join the Indians….
@@darbyheavey406 ya
The Guns of The South - is an Alternate History of South Africans bringing the AK Variants back in time to the Confederacy and the impact on the Civil War. On another comment stream, that I viewed, there was speculation on what a single Armored vehicle like a modern tank might have made on the Battle of Gettysburg. Some speculated that a LAV or similar large wheeled armored vehicle would be more effective with its auto cannons and 50 cal. machine guns etc.. One Officer chimed in that the Union Forces would quickly recover from the initial shock and would readily see how to knock the tracks off of the tank with logs pushed into the tracks. I found all those speculations to be interesting.
I want to write a Science Fiction book of WW2 aircraft time traveling back to the CW to assist The South.
They would have to get close to the tank first, but I think a Bradley or Stryker would be better, they don't need anti armor capabilities of a tank. The bushmaster on the Bradley with explosive AP rounds would absolutely rule the field
I read Guns of the South by Turtledove many years ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
You haven't been to the battle site nor do you have any knowledge about what really happened. In reallity the battle that took place really happened in two places about 5 miles from each other. And very different outcomes for each. If you get the chance I recommend visiting the site and study battle tactics used at the time, you will come back with very different results.
Using battle tactics used at the time, that is key to most of the arguments
That was interesting. I love the old West. In another episode, how about samurai in the crusades? Or Marine Recon in a Revolutionary or Civil War battle. Thanks again for the video.
I got this idea whilst watching a clip from the series black sails, but long story short...
HMS Victory is present for the Battle of Actium in 31 BCE, during the final confrontation between Octavian and Mark Antony that would see the latter's death and end of any major threat to Octavian's rise to emperor of rome. How would this battle play out if HMS Victory is on the side of Mark Anthony?
What if HMS Victory was at Actium in 31 BCE?
Love this series, great video!
So let's forget green berets all together. Benteen shows up and he and Reno team up and are able to hold off the Indians force. 100 men with 1800's single shots would have completely changed the outcome. Or not dividing your force 2 or 3 times.
In answer to the original question, he would have left them behind, just like he did the 2 Gatling guns he could had.
The 7th Calvary did not carry muskets as stated. The cavalry were armed with Springfield “trapdoor” single shot carbines in 45-70 caliber.
With copper cartridges. They failed. The post mortem investigation convinced the US Army to convert to brass
Psst, the modle Springfield "Trapdoor" Carbine was a converted musket. If you look one up, you will see it came with a ramrod.
I think 48 is more accurate for 4 A-teams (12 person squad) than 50. 🤔
There was still the factor of Custer splitting his forces into 3 units, therefore the beret's could have been split up or sent with Reno or Bentween .
Well actually no even though Custer maybe the ranking officer Green Berets don't fall under those types of Command structures. They run independent operations for a reason.
M-16s,xm-177s( Car 15s) , claymores, 60mm motors and m-60 machine guns ? Depends on where the green berets were deployed? If with Custer they would have beaten back the natives that attacked Custers three companies( at least 500-600 natives dead) unless the Platoon was split up - if that's the case about 15 green berets would have DIED with Custer leaving about 400 plus native warriors dead
History has shown that Custer company got " bum rushed" in the tall prairie grass- vicious close in fighting
If you give the Sioux assault rifles and light machine guns before the battle.... no impact. Dividing them into three parts (every group only 17 men strong) as Custer did with the 7th cavalry and two times those 17 against more than 1000 native warriors (like Reno's attack first and than Custer's).... nope. But I doubt a group of Green Berets would be as dumb as Custer bringing them into the same hopeless situation.... 🤔
Probably would have had at least a few m60s in an element that size, great video tho !
How about a ww2 American tank platoon or a us cavalry regiment from the Civil War at the battle of Cannae. I say this because one of the biggest weaknesses for the Romans during the battle was weak cavalry which led to them being surrounded on all sides, which in turn caused them to be slaughtered by Hannibal Barca.
SF would have never rode into that Valley like and/ or with Yellow Hair.
My Old Man w/ a 12 man Team was overrun by a reinforced Company sized element @/across W Border in the Highlands under Kennedy. He's 80 years old today, still living outside Conroe, Texas.
Custer was a fool
Absolutely love your content. Well thought out and explained so Joe Anybody could understand it. Thank you!
Semper Fi
Alternate scenario: 50 Green Berets, but they have to use the weapons of the era. Or: Custer's men (or at least some, at the battle) armed with modern weapons and trained to use them.
Great concept but I believe that you have it wrong. Custer was an idiot and was out for glory. His mindset at the time was that he wanted to move fast, find them, fix them and kill them. The reason he chose not to take the Gatling Guns was that he didn't want them slowing him down. He was Calvary first and foremost and wouldn't take foot soldiers with him unless they were mounted on horseback. Wagons would be just as slow, if not slower than the Gatling Guns. So unless you could get these Green Berets up to speed on horseback, meaning they'd have to leave their heavier weapons like the M-60s behind. Combine this with the fact that most of the US forces were caught out in the open on rolling grass land with no cover or concealment and the fact that Custer was going to do what he felt regardless of warnings he'd received from his own staff. Regardless was the GB told him, I believe he'd have made the same stupid mistakes.
I believe that the GBs would have made a difference and probably could have gotten some of the men out alive and certainly send many of the Indians running, I think that serving under a self centered idiot like Custer would have been a waste of these men and their abilities.
That Custer was an Idiot would not be lost on the Green Berets. Custer would have been removed from Command.
He only had been offered 2 gattling guns and 2 Hotchkiss repeating cannons. These are great back east with proper roads but out west the damned things where useless, they required 4 horses to pull them and teams of men to man handle them over obstacles, and the frequently rolled over during transport and the where notirious for jamming up. Ever officer experienced in fighting the natives all said the same thing: They where usless. And Custer knew that. What wasn't usless was the king cannon of the west, the Mountain Howitzer. Small enough it can be broken down and transported on the backs of 4 muels with ease. But he didn't have access to them and he was better off not taking the dead weight.
I can't believe this is still being argued, this argument had been settled months after the battle...
@@claytonbenignus4688He wasn't an idiot, you don't make the rank of general in your 20's by being an idiot.
Pretty much lost me when they were allowed to dig in first.
I suspect, at some point after the battle, Custer would have been found tied up somewhere, firmly gagged, so as to not to influence much of anything.
That dumbbell needed it back right after the Civil War.
fragged.
Understandable as the last in his class @ West Point
You and the guys replying to you have no understanding of what the current tactical concepts were in use by the US army and the native Americans at the time. Go do some research about what the typical conduct of native Americans were when their camps were attacked. Then go look at how Custer planned his attack.
He was excellent in the Civil War.
If you are going to add hypothetical 50 Green Beret to Custer's men .. it is only fair you add 50 Sioux warriors that were trained veterans of the Rangers .. the outcome would then not change .. the 7th, Custer and the Green Beret would still have their asses handed to them by the Sioux, Cheyenne, and the Rangers .. (:))
What about the Green Berets who were native American ancestry? Would they go along with Custer's plans? 😂
No, they're too smart...
I think they might have had a few claymore mines as well.
Real hard to find vietnam war depictions without an M60 present.
You forgot about the claymores each soldier would’ve carried on patrol/ missions. 1 or more carried by each soldier would’ve given them 40 plus claymores which would have given them a huge advantage
How do you see them using the claymore mines? As a defensive perimeter for the flanks or placing them then falling back before detonating them as the enemy takes the ground?
Damn. The bad guys win this time. =-[.]-=
How about 50 Green Berets plus Ditka?
Ooooh the Ditka difference! That would change everything.
6-15 KIA Green Beret soldiers. 100's of Native Indian KIA
Very interesting. I like how the troop type changes every time to fit the situation.
Where are the m-60 Machine guns ?
One thing that virtually every visual depiction of the battle of Little Bighorn gets wrong is the hats that the 7th Cav troopers are wearing. Due to army regulations of the time, soldiers were required to purchase their own hats. Straw Boater hats(barber shop quartet hats) were VERY popular because they were only a dime at the sutler's store.
Good observation. Those hats were a contributing factor to the lose. No native could take a guy wearing that seriously.
We have photos of Custer's men prior to the battle, they where not wearing those kind of hats, homie. Most of the hats they wore where kepis and forge caps while officers would wear stetsons. So the depictions are accurate as far as hats go.
Suppose it depends on which side your Green Berets are attached huh?
There Were Around 2000-3000
Indian's, 50 Green Beret's Would NOT Have Made Much Of A Difference...
…..but they were not all assembled at the sand place and time, since there were multiple site engagements during this battle. Also as with modern tactics, not all of the Indian forces would have bed committed in a first wave attack, there were other echelons, reinforcements and scouting forces as well. If a first wave gets defeated a second attack wave may or may not be ordered!
@@edmundcharles5278and they all were not warriors
The Twilight Zone: The 7tth is Made Up of Phantoms (1963). A tank crew of an M5 Stuart find themselves at the Battle of the Little Big Horn. Did not end well for the tank crew who did not bring up their Stuart. For reason?
Most of your pics show M60 light machine guns yet you have none in your equipment list?
The only problem would be the lack of support weapons, such as M60s, a pair of squads would've added a devastating firepower to the GBs. Naturally the grenade launchers would've been very useful, expecially from the psycholocical factor, indians knew the power of the artillery, but being shot by something that you can't see is very frightful.
Love this series. Keep them coming.
Don't forget that some of the Green Berets are of indigenous decent. Also remembering what the US Govt did to their people since the Battle of Little Bighorn. Most if not all of those would probably join the Natives against Custer.
50 Green Berets - that’s four ODAs, the MAJ, and a SGM. So almost a whole company.
That means they’d have trained up elements of the Kiowa, Commanche, Utes, and 3 other tribes, 27 towns worth of settlers, and 600 Vaqueros, and surrounded the Lakota, Arapaho, Dakota and Cheyenne encampments.
Then negotiated with Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, et al, from a position of strength, convincing them to join forces, move north, and carve out a new Indian nation in Alberta.
How about a Nimitz Class aircraft carrier defending Pearl Harbor on Dec 6, 1941....😂 If you know you know.
If the Warriors at Little Bighorn battlefield had the same firepower as Custer's weapons & support it would've still been a slaughter! I was in VietNam & talking to a Green Beret, he told me 75% of our LRRPS, MIKE FORCES, RANGERS, RECON were killed or missing. If Natives had resources like NVA they would've won against the cavalry or green berets. There were many American Green Berets fighting on American side. WWII we coulda' lost the War without our Native American Warriors/Code Talkers.
Coordinated Calvary charges? Pure fantasy BS!
OBTW … you can’t have a Calvary charge without Calvary HORSES!
Who Are The Green Berets Fighting Alongside???? Reno??? What About the Wacky Custer???
Some of the art, the paintings depicting this battle are beautiful.
If they knew what a war criminal Custer was targeting women and children those Green Berets would fight for the Indians. Indigenous integrating and networking is their historic specialty. 🪓
FOB 4 August 23, 1968, Plei Me October 18-25 1965, Nam Dong July 5-6 1964. Just a few examples of how Green Berets, would've got their asses handed to them by larger forces. If it hadn't been for reinforcements, air strikes and artillery. The Natives were fluid popping up all over, making it hard to pin down a large group of them.
Muskets for the 7th? They would have been armed with the 1873 Trapdoor Carbines, in .45-70, with an effective range off 400 yards. the main problem was rate of fire with the indians using repeaters.
What if the defenders had 5 A-10 Warthogs dropping cluster bombs annihilating thr enemy 5 miles away?
What if the defenders had M777 howitzers delivering airburst shrapnel rounds at the enemy?
What if the defenders had 5 Bradley IFVs rolling up and opening fire with 25mm and 7.62 machine guns?
What if they had AC130s blasting the enemy with 105mm howtizers and 40mm cannons and 20mm Vulcan guns?
What if the defenders had 7 .50 BMG quad mounts?
What a stupid question. What a stupid, senseless channel.
There are too many problems with this whole scenario. First off numbers and tactics. SF in Vietnam with TOE of that time period VS what you "allowed" them to have for this battle. The numbers and tactics of the Nativees involved. When and where the troops are to be deployed. Custer Hill is a high point when looking from the river, but is not significantly higher than some of the surounding terrain on top. Not having M-60, or other TOE of the Vietnam era, is absurd. Vietnam era SF worked in small team and indigenous troops. For the scenario you have presented almost ANY Vietnam era 50 man unit armed with proper TOE could lay down the fire you suggested. Although there were snipers in Vietnam they were just being reintroduced to the military machine because, after every previous war the powers that be decided snipers were nasty and not necessary. I mean it is fun to wonder, but hey my father used to say "The Alamo would not have fallen if they only had an M-60". hahaha.........De Oppresso Liber
LTC Custer would not have listened to the Special Forces team leader and the Indian warriors would have still kicked their a$$. The Special Forces would have then E&E’d their way out of there and found a way back to the 1970’s.
Going to disagree here. We now know that Indians were using 1866 Winchester Carbine repeaters along with some longer range versions. In truth, they outgunned Custers group with better weapons. And while the Green Berets would have caused much issues, they had to worry about snipers (that was discovered recently). So while Green Berets were better armed and better trained. They were going up against a ratio of over 500 to 1 (min). Since, the common weapon used there is the 1866 Winchester Carbine (Which had a great range with scope), it would been able to do much damage. In the end, they would have done what they did to Custer, wait it out until Green Berets ran low on ammo, then it was over... The silly idea they used mostly arrows and bows is a myth. Yes, they did use those, but it was the repeaters and long ranged scoped rifles (with a range of 460 to 730 meters) that destroyed Custer's group.
And finally, we know that Indians didnt charge Custer, they used sneaking and long-range shootouts. Custer was surrounded and heavily outnumbered going up against better weapons of that time than even Custer had. Some of those firearms are highly collectible today because of their ability and range. Want to understand their impact, play a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 and you shall get a general idea how powerful they were. This battle, with Green Beret, likely would have ended in both sides agreeing to stop fighting at best or Green Beret wiped out. The biggest irony, they would experience the same combat tactics against them in Vietnam.
800 meters/yards, essentially,...1/2 mile. Same outcome as the Alamo episode. Complete
demoralizing of the enemy. The first 5 min would shut it down. If the 50 GBs only shot a repeated volly out to that range, THAT would probably send the Indians running.
Unless you have a spooky gunship or two, and/or some Sandy's and Cobra's and all modern weapons to go around, mainly automatic weapons, it ends the same, with one exception, that perhaps they are smart enough to stay home in the first place. 2000-3000 indians, some with repeaters, against a handful split into 2 or 3 unit is long odds even with modern weapons. So just the men being different won't do. What if'ing may be fun, but it's useless. Without Air power, I wouldn't attempt it.
Yeah, and if pigs could fly...
BTW, by ALL accounts, Sitting Bull, as elder spiritual leader, did not actually participating in the battle, but remained in the village. So, I don't think he gets picked off in the battle.
a painting at 10:45 actually looks like g.a.c is about too shoot himself in the head {im sure not intensional art wise } but hadda comment on it 😝,also love seeing old movies {go tell the spatons} that are near forgotten by most used for representation of war eras past ,well done , btw iv fantasized this AND same idea {alamo} both esp from 1964 twilight zone episode { the 7th is made up of phantoms}good work but id not go further past the event itself in history ,it takes away AND ADDS too much to be changed history wise ,easier too say ," phew ill NEVER mix wine and scotch and BANANAS before sleeping ! makes for cuurazy dreams" 😵💫
The 7th Calvary Regiment later became part of the 1st Calvary Division and they in turn fought in the Vietnam War at Ia Drang
Forget modern weapons. If the 50 Green Berets were allowed to make their own tactical decisions, they would’ve remained split off from Custer’s main group. Making a stand like Custer’s men did left them cut off and immobile allowing indigenous hostiles to pick and choose the engagement and control the pace of battle. If 50 Green Berets-even armed with contemporary weaponry-had remained detached from the 7th Cavalry, the indigenous hostiles would’ve found themselves caught between the two forces.
It was victory for the Special Forces until the Indians called in their fleet of C-130 gunships and A-10's which wiped the battlefield clean of white men.
Special forces werent necessary, of course.
What if Nathan Bedford Forrest had been in command instead.
The idiot , custer , wouldnt have died, neither the 275 men of his command.
Forrest would have simply reconned the area, would have known his enemy's strengths, positioned his forces properly to suit the terrain and situation, and in all likelihood have chosen not to attack at all under the circumstances.
But then, Forrest was a cavalry genius. Custer was not, despite his own opinion
General Custer becomes President Custer.
Probably, huh?
Lol, Custer wanting to become President was from an episode of Branded. The historical accuracy of this is very sketchy.
OK ...
First problem - the Special Forces guys would all recognize where they were and what was about to happen. Because of this - they might CHOOSE - not to participate out of fear of disrupting the Time Line. What if Custer Won - and became President?
The Biggest Tactical Problem here though - is that the Special Forces guys would be on foot - unless you provided them with vehicles.
Being on foot - they probably would not have been able to keep up with the Horse Mounted Cavalry and would have been left behind - unless - the Time Travel Device deposited them directly on the battle field as it was happening. If it did that though - where would it have put them?
Being With Reno and Benteen - wouldn't have changed anything.
Being with Custer - unless it was on Last Stand Hill - it wouldn't have mattered as they still would have immediately been left behind. Just as the Indians gave up on Reno and Benteen because they were in to formidable a position - the Indians also would have recognized the fire power of the Spec. Forces guys and left them alone while they concentrated on Custer.
Here - if deposited directly on Last Stand Hill - the disruption caused by time travel and immediate insertion into a battle would have been a problem until the Spec. Forces guys adjusted. Whether or not they would instantly recognize where they were is questionable.
Being immediately inserted into the battle - would have negated any possibility of them being under Custer's Command and integrated into his forces.
If they were integrated sooner - then they would have known what was about to happen - and been able to warn Custer about just how many Indians there were in that camp. If they were integrated into Custer's Command - as Infantry - his battle plan would have been completely different as to how he was going to use them - and - it is questionable if Custer would have been willing to do this.
He might have left the Infantry behind as he had the Gatling Guns - or - had them with the Supply Train - where they would not have mattered in the Battle.
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Pure bs. The 7th was surprised by the size of the Indians and had NO FORTUFICATIONS
The Green Berets would still be waiting in 2024 for the Departure of Veterans Affairs to approve their disability claims from that battle…
What if the lakota, cheyenne and arapaho had a nuclear submarine?
Still would have been wiped out !!! ammo would have run out !! 3000 against 50 !!! Cmon don't be ridiculous !! and the green berets were a little smarter than Custer and most likely would not have engaged
The Indians would have heard the sound of full auto weapons, shit their pants, turned around and decided to fight another day. Especially after seeing a few dozen Braves biting the dust. WTF
Instead of green berets, howabout 3 Roman legions with auxiliary calvery and seige machinery vs the Sioux and Northern Cheyenne?
Sorry, the Indians fought on foot, this has been proved by archaeological investigations of the battlefield.
And the tactics used were infiltration and the use of repeating rifles to overwhelm the soldiers.
The Green Berets would have been massacred if the were with Custer, but may have survived with Benteen or Reno.
There were no massed cavalry charges by the Indians.
There was sniping and close range rushes.
Would have been impossible for the snipers to hit Sitting Bull considering he wasn't at the battle. I believe the Indians may have been repulsed at first but would have regrouped and ran the Marines over along with Custer's Troops. The grass was waist high, perfect for sneaky Indians to get very close.
Really enjoyed this video. The alternate history battles are so good.
Custer would have been relieved of command. The Green Berets would find an American Indian from among their number to negotiate under a Flag of Truce. There would be a Just Peace with Zero Casualties.
This Analysis is Stupid. SF group would have sided with and fought along side of the Indigenous peoples. Not Custers Troops.
I think many here aren't considering the terrain of the batttlefield. The Army was at a grave disadvantage from the start by being in open the whole time. The Natives took advantage of the hills, slopes, and gulches that they knew like the back of their hands.
Well clearly with 50 green berets fighting against him, custer would have most even more quickly
The SF guys would have to be restricted to the weapons of the day. In short, they would have died just as spectacularly as Custer did.
I will interject one thing into this battle and not even use the modern soldiers. Custer had 4 Gatling guns at his disposed but didn't bring them along. Had he brought them, the same devastation that the Green Berets would have inflicted with the use of those weapons alone. Just a thought. Besides, Custer was an idiot for splitting his forces without knowing the disposition of his enemy.
Numbers matter.50 against 5000 is not good odds no matter the weaponry.join the real service and find out.
Custer ego was so big he would have rejected the special forhe didn't even take the machine guns with him that he was supposed to cause he wanted to travel whireally no m 60s, no claymore's. They would have turned the battle but Custer's ego was just too big even though he's moved by time for the infantry
Ok we don't need to modern soldiers in it. Custer could have changed it simply by taking 1 of 3 gattling guns on the field, which would have changed it
Almost every picture or drawing of the modern solders shows an M60 light machine gun. Yet, you didn't include a 60 gunner in your load out.
Custer did not take gatling guns with him , if so different outcome!!!!! Was a stupid arrogant officer with a ego the size of heads on mount Rushmore!!!!!
WHAT IF THE PACK TRAIN ARRIVED IN THE HEAT OF BATTLE AND OUT FROM THE BACK OF A COVERED WAGON,JUST AS THE INDIANS ARE CLOSING IN, OUT STEPS GORT, THE ROBOT FROM DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. CAN ONE IMAGINE THE LOOK ON CRAZY HORSE'S AND GALLS FACE WHEN THEIR RIFLES AND BOW AN ARROWS START TO DESINIGRATE.😁😵💫🥴
What if some of those Green Berets were native American's themselves? Would they turn on the cavalry or their fellow SF? What if a special op team landed in 1876 and went with the native tribes? There is a moral and ethical argument there and also the argument for the effect of a less harsh suppression of the natives if there was such a massive victory for the Federal govt.
Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse were with the Elders and Children. They were not involved in the Little Bighorn Battle.