The bearings in the 144/124019 hubs are actually only 1.8mm, in a later video I've found a better way in my opinion to use less shims or none at all. Check out the later video for updated hub wobble information. Also subscribe! To the channel for more mods/fixes
I figured the dog bone being closer in the cup would be better, as long as the shim is smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing and it's winner winner chicken dinner. I've came up with various way to fix the play now, thanks for your comments and support.
Just shimmed the wheels on my new 2nd 144001-no other mods yet and it does seem to help keep it in a straight line. My 1st one is a bit broken at the moment (Front gearbox cover smashed ) but as soon as its fixed i will try them side by side and see for sure. Waiting for metal c cups, seats etc (front and rear) I will do the same,direct comparison between original new and replaced metal bits!
Nice one dude you can get two diffs and diff case housing from ebay for £12.99. Glad to hear you also feel a difference with the shims. Keep me updated on your metal parts
Also, putting about a centimeter of ink pen spring in each of the out side sockets before putting the dog bones in takes all the play out of the wheel hub components.
That threw me for a loop for a second and I had a question. Then I realised you said (ink pen SPRING) that would work and flex to stop the drive cups smashing or the diff when the arms flex when jumping. Pretty nifty idea Don 👍 Most people use fuel tube myself included, too much though and the problems I mention happen. Credit to your idea dude 😉
Any tip that helps someone out of a pickle is perfect for me. Thanks for passing it along bro someone might only have pens around, you just never know unless you try.
Watch my "diff with a difference" video shows all the process to getting a better smoother diff. If you haven't packed it with grease and it's doing that then check it's not been shimmed very well in my opinion dude good luck hope my videos help
Hello, I have a problem with my wl 124008, the rear dogbones do not fit enough into the caps and come out and damage them, could I use this same to fix it ? I think this would be a good solution.... Thank you
On the car as it arrives stock. Phillips head screws that are fine by my standard could do with better hex head. Is that information of any help to you.
1mm thick,4mm inner diameter,outer diameter 8mm. You can play around with different diameters of thickness. But always keep inner diameter the same if you go bigger you'll get play. If you think tighter fit it won't go over the axle, so 1×4×8 ebay personally but shims are just washers dude
@@mehimrc1314 I've just found some 1x4x8 washers in my work stuff and tried them seem to be ok will give them a whirl once my 100mph build is finished thanks again
Just got mine and came here because of wheel wobble but watching it, mine doesn't seem right. When I turn the wheels they are really notchy and don't spin like yours do. Any idea why that would be?
If it's a new car and the wheels seems notchy while spinning. Possibly bad bearings. I've never seen one come with a broken diff just lack of grease and might need shimmed.
@@mehimrc1314 Not done anything yet mate. Do you mean shims to stop the wheel wobble? When you spin your wheels, does the motor turn over? Sometimes one wheel will spin a little and not turn over the motor then goes notchy again when the motor turns over.
@@Yosser70 no mate I've just checked both my cars. Both front and rear wheels move perfect in opposite directions and the motor doesn't move one tooth. You might have grease in your diffs, Do your wheels move in opposite directions when you turn one? And is it the same front and rear?
Hi, after a violent crash against a wall today, my 144001 drove a bit strange. Still fast, but it was no longer extremely fast after the crash. If you accelerate and stop accelerating, the wheels stop immediately. (The tires stops not smooth, rather immediately). So, the tires don't roll easily after I stop accelerating, stop turning immediately as if I had turned the tires tight. Do you know what's broken?
This is like a zodiac riddle,i'll need to ask questions to even be in with a chance of telling you. You've crashed yet the car works but the wheels stop once you let off the accelerator? Hmm are the dog bones and cvd straight? Is the drive shaft straight? The motor could of shifted and tightened the mesh on the spur gear. If all those things are ok then your diffs are absolutely shot. Or depending on how bad the crash was it could be all of the above.
@@mehimrc1314 "You've crashed yet the car works but the wheels stop once you let off the accelerator?" Exactly! Dog bones and cvd straight. That is not the problem. "The motor could move and tighten the mesh on the spur gear." Maybe the problem can be here. What can I do if this is the problem? The engine makes slight sparks inside, is that normal?
@@muromango4415 the sparks in the motor are fine it's just the brushes making electrical contact. You'll have to take the car apart so you can check the mesh between the spur and pinion. Also to check if the drive shaft is straight. If its bent hit it with a hammer once it's out the car to straighten. If all that seems fine then you've done a troubleshoot the next place to look is the differentials.
Would what melt from friction? be more specific. Aslong as the shim is no larger than the outer bearing brace than NO. This video was when I first started,since then I've made updated mods to the hubs to illuminate slop/wobble. I hope this answers your queries I suggest watching the updated version as it takes the need for shims away.
Due to one complaint I'd recommend getting the wider bearings. If you still want to shim you'll find them on eBay I've not had any issues with either mod.
Unfortunately I don't have a link, the sizes are in the description if you wish to search for them. Or watch my up dated video for the better bearing mod.
It's just your tie rod. Get a little drill bit or Allen wrench pop it through the whole in the tie rod and turn one direction. It'll either go in or out. Adjust both side so the wheels point in the same direction or match evenly
That video has a problem and not working for me: Ordered same 8 mm / 4 mm / 1 mm washers you preconize and it almost fit, no more wobble... until I try to rotate the wheels and now they are stuck as hell. 8 mm outer diameter seem to be bigger than the bearings, and it grip something on plastic holder when screwing the wheel nut , costed me 5€ for nothing. Checked the received washer size and washer seller did not made an error. Also checked you are not using imperialist stuff, and you wrote millimeters in the comments. But seems to be promising IF you find the good diameters, gonna try to find a washer that could fit behind the bearing inside the plastic, so the rotating piece of metal will touch the bearing and not the washer.
If the shims touch everything it neutralize the bearing. Bearing outer diameter is 7 mm, you would need a shim that touch inner part of the bearing without touching the outside part of the bearing (not even speaking about plastic holding bearing. That mod really sux and going to upgrade the bearing instead.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 the shims that work for me are the 8×4×1. The bearings I'm using are 8×4×3 for the lc racing hubs/bearings. Even on my standard car bearing 7×4×2.5 they work fine with NO BINDING. You've done to mod and cranked your tyres on stupidly tight. You should of checked for free rolling wheels before running. Other people have had success with the mod sorry something went wrong for you.
Sounds like you've put the wheel on super tight I've not had one issue with the. Mod,and if your knowledgeable on shims. Why do it in the first place? And why not tell me I'm wrong? Instead I cost you money for nothing? Your own doubt cost you.. I personally haven't had an issue with the sizes I've said.
@@mehimrc1314 Noway it can work good when washer neutralize the bearing, it act exactly like a break disc. It can work only if you do NOT screw enough the wheel nut but it is not the way it is supposed to work with mechanic and bearings. Bearing is made for inner disc rotate in compare to outer disc with minimal friction. Check the original car and you will see the metal transmission only touch the inner disc and outer disc touching plastic, even if you push metal. If you apply a washer that touch inner AND outer part of the washer at same time it makes friction. So if it work for you, I can tell you my mother did 500 Km with her real car with wheel nuts only rotated manually 2 turns, because air compressor of the garage was not working and the guy did not saw it. At the arrival the other garage guy said it was miracle she did not lost her 4 wheels on the highway.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 I'll be honest it's hard to make end meat of what your saying. If it hasn't worked for you then something has went wrong on you end. I've ran my car for months. The shims don't act like a brake at all,they only take up negative space in this situation.
I bought 8x4x1mm shims but the wheels are totally blocked when I tighten the wheels nuts ! I assume that the pin in the axle which lies in the hex adapter gets pushed on the plastic around the OUTER bearing by the wheel nut (via the hex adapter) which can now travel further down the thread after the shimming...Solution: I loosend the wheel nuts a bit and used threadlock on them. I hope that this will work...
When I use 1mm shims I put them on the inside of the c hub to stop that being an issue. Or you buy thinner shims 0.5 0.2 ect same measurements and shim accordingly on the outside as you did but dont add as many or the same issue will happen. Most rc cars if you wrench the nut on they will bind. It's a delicate game but I'm just trying to make things abit nicer for people and cheaply.
@@mehimrc1314 One nut loosened after 3min of running. I lost the pin in the outdrive while the wheel was overtaking the car...I will try the shims on the outside tomorrow.
@@19Marc79 Most people who own these cars add loctite once you've had the wheel off even without shims. I shim accordingly on the inside of the C hub. Then fit the wheels check for binding, then I'll loctite my wheels on 24 hours before going bashing or speed runs.
@@mehimrc1314 That is exactly how I did it. But the rear diff was not working smoothly...I put a smooth diff in and put Locite on the nut. If a nut loosens again, i will remove the washers.
If you over tighten yes, put the nut on and back it off a little so the wheel move free. Its very simple and works every time, later videos I've made have better solutions to this problem.
Your are SO RIGHT! check my later video out for the steering linkage mod. Fantastic car is tighter than a ducks a## thanks for the awsome comment and feedback.
@@mehimrc1314 Did you bother with the hub carrier bolts steering rod bolts/play? I'm wondering if the upgraded alloy parts might have better tolerances. Edit.. Just found your other videos. Ta.. I've got something to kill another day in lockdown 💪
@@vinanderson2535 The hub screws with the bushing dont bother the car so much. You could however glue the bushing in place and the screws act as the pivot point just like the a959 without bushing. I take what I see from different cars and apply the same logic. I've got aluminium linkage waiting but you'll go back to stock setup with bushing because of the lack of material the drill out for the m3 screw. So metal link in my opinion wouldn't help without tackling the bushing/link issue. Glad my videos are keeping you entertained.
The bearings in the 144/124019 hubs are actually only 1.8mm, in a later video I've found a better way in my opinion to use less shims or none at all. Check out the later video for updated hub wobble information. Also subscribe! To the channel for more mods/fixes
Thank you so much. I just received mine and the front wheels are flopping all over the place. Keep the videos coming!!!
Well dude I hope this helps you out. There great cars for getting into the hobby.
Well now i now how to mend a wobble wheel your information are spot on you should me how to put lights in my rc all good thank you all the best
Thanks really appreciate your comment, glad your RC cars can drive at night lol.
Nice one i think the inside shim makes sense as well good call.
Thanks for sharing
I figured the dog bone being closer in the cup would be better, as long as the shim is smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing and it's winner winner chicken dinner. I've came up with various way to fix the play now, thanks for your comments and support.
Great tip 👍🏁
Thanks dude I hope it all helps.
Great stuff.
Thank you.
No problem dude glad it helps
cool job!
Just shimmed the wheels on my new 2nd 144001-no other mods yet and it does seem to help keep it in a straight line. My 1st one is a bit broken at the moment (Front gearbox cover smashed ) but as soon as its fixed i will try them side by side and see for sure. Waiting for metal c cups, seats etc (front and rear) I will do the same,direct comparison between original new and replaced metal bits!
Nice one dude you can get two diffs and diff case housing from ebay for £12.99. Glad to hear you also feel a difference with the shims. Keep me updated on your metal parts
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Nicely done! And the shims won’t bind the inner bearing?
I've had no issues so far. Works great
Also, putting about a centimeter of ink pen spring in each of the out side sockets before putting the dog bones in takes all the play out of the wheel hub components.
That threw me for a loop for a second and I had a question. Then I realised you said (ink pen SPRING) that would work and flex to stop the drive cups smashing or the diff when the arms flex when jumping.
Pretty nifty idea Don 👍
Most people use fuel tube myself included, too much though and the problems I mention happen.
Credit to your idea dude 😉
@@mehimrc1314 'Tis not mine, was just passing it along. I just did it on my a979 and it works amazingly.( : ) )
Any tip that helps someone out of a pickle is perfect for me. Thanks for passing it along bro someone might only have pens around, you just never know unless you try.
@@mehimrc1314 Passed along his video so others reading yer comments will see.
Put the link on dude I'll approve it if it doesn't show. It's cool I found it lol 🤣
Great video! Good help! How did you get your wheels to free spin longer? Mine stop very quickly.
Watch my "diff with a difference" video shows all the process to getting a better smoother diff. If you haven't packed it with grease and it's doing that then check it's not been shimmed very well in my opinion dude good luck hope my videos help
Yea i fully greased it and made sure everything wasnt too tight. Ill definitely watch your vid thanks for the help!
@@marcocardenas7271 no problem dude if I think i can help then I'll will. Hope you find the videos interesting
I have to make few upgrates on my as well
It's standard on these cars to upgrades some parts. They are great fun either way
Hello, I have a problem with my wl 124008, the rear dogbones do not fit enough into the caps and come out and damage them, could I use this same to fix it ? I think this would be a good solution.... Thank you
Something sounds wrong with your car, this "may" possibly help. Couldn't actually say yes without seeing the issue.
Hello, could this same procedure be applied to the ones in the back ? Thanks in advance
For wheel wobble? Yes different sized bearings work.
I saw the video well. What is the screw standard?
On the car as it arrives stock. Phillips head screws that are fine by my standard could do with better hex head. Is that information of any help to you.
What size shims did you use and where did you get them from bro
1mm thick,4mm inner diameter,outer diameter 8mm. You can play around with different diameters of thickness. But always keep inner diameter the same if you go bigger you'll get play. If you think tighter fit it won't go over the axle, so 1×4×8 ebay personally but shims are just washers dude
@@mehimrc1314 I've just found some 1x4x8 washers in my work stuff and tried them seem to be ok will give them a whirl once my 100mph build is finished thanks again
@@bigbeardrc4145 good luck and I'm sure this little trick will help keep you straight and true if your going speed running.
Hello sir ..I have problem with steering .it's is full working .when I lift the car then it's work . otherwise not work
Is your servo saver tightened?
Wheel nuts are 3m? I want to buy spare. Thanks
Yes M3
Just got mine and came here because of wheel wobble but watching it, mine doesn't seem right. When I turn the wheels they are really notchy and don't spin like yours do. Any idea why that would be?
If it's a new car and the wheels seems notchy while spinning. Possibly bad bearings. I've never seen one come with a broken diff just lack of grease and might need shimmed.
Have you added shims?
@@mehimrc1314 Not done anything yet mate. Do you mean shims to stop the wheel wobble? When you spin your wheels, does the motor turn over? Sometimes one wheel will spin a little and not turn over the motor then goes notchy again when the motor turns over.
@@Yosser70 no mate I've just checked both my cars. Both front and rear wheels move perfect in opposite directions and the motor doesn't move one tooth. You might have grease in your diffs,
Do your wheels move in opposite directions when you turn one? And is it the same front and rear?
@@mehimrc1314 Yes they move in opposite directions front and back. Isn't grease in the diffs a good thing?
Hi, after a violent crash against a wall today, my 144001 drove a bit strange. Still fast, but it was no longer extremely fast after the crash. If you accelerate and stop accelerating, the wheels stop immediately. (The tires stops not smooth, rather immediately). So, the tires don't roll easily after I stop accelerating, stop turning immediately as if I had turned the tires tight. Do you know what's broken?
This is like a zodiac riddle,i'll need to ask questions to even be in with a chance of telling you. You've crashed yet the car works but the wheels stop once you let off the accelerator? Hmm are the dog bones and cvd straight? Is the drive shaft straight? The motor could of shifted and tightened the mesh on the spur gear. If all those things are ok then your diffs are absolutely shot. Or depending on how bad the crash was it could be all of the above.
@@mehimrc1314 "You've crashed yet the car works but the wheels stop once you let off the accelerator?"
Exactly!
Dog bones and cvd straight. That is not the problem.
"The motor could move and tighten the mesh on the spur gear."
Maybe the problem can be here. What can I do if this is the problem?
The engine makes slight sparks inside, is that normal?
@@muromango4415 the sparks in the motor are fine it's just the brushes making electrical contact.
You'll have to take the car apart so you can check the mesh between the spur and pinion. Also to check if the drive shaft is straight. If its bent hit it with a hammer once it's out the car to straighten.
If all that seems fine then you've done a troubleshoot the next place to look is the differentials.
@@mehimrc1314 I'll check it out the days. If I have any questions, I'll get in touch. Thanks for the quick answer! :)
@@muromango4415 well you do that dude,get in touch with any questions I'll try to offer help.
Also subscribe you might find it interesting.
Would they melt from friction?
Would what melt from friction? be more specific. Aslong as the shim is no larger than the outer bearing brace than NO. This video was when I first started,since then I've made updated mods to the hubs to illuminate slop/wobble. I hope this answers your queries I suggest watching the updated version as it takes the need for shims away.
Whare did you get the shims ?
You can get the shims on ebay,or in a later video I show a different way by using wider bearings.
.2 mili shim??? where do i find s bag of those??? thanks
Due to one complaint I'd recommend getting the wider bearings. If you still want to shim you'll find them on eBay I've not had any issues with either mod.
where did you buy these shims?
Ebay seb they cost a few pound for 20 shims or you could try wider bearings.
What should I do
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Hi!
Great video.
Is there any chance you have a link for the shims you used?
Thank you in advance
Unfortunately I don't have a link, the sizes are in the description if you wish to search for them. Or watch my up dated video for the better bearing mod.
Where do you buy the wheel and diff shims 😭😭😭
The wheels in this video come stock with the car. The diff shims are from eBay. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253288550925
@@mehimrc1314 thanks so much bro 🙏🙏🙏🙏
how can i fix my front wheel? the alignment is not d same! plss notice..
In what way are the wheels not aligned? Have you crashed the car or is it new?
@@mehimrc1314 its new..but the alignment is not the same..
@@mehimrc1314 btw, new subscriber here..!
It's just your tie rod. Get a little drill bit or Allen wrench pop it through the whole in the tie rod and turn one direction. It'll either go in or out. Adjust both side so the wheels point in the same direction or match evenly
@@mehimrc1314 what is the size of your washer did u use?
That video has a problem and not working for me:
Ordered same 8 mm / 4 mm / 1 mm washers you preconize and it almost fit, no more wobble... until I try to rotate the wheels and now they are stuck as hell.
8 mm outer diameter seem to be bigger than the bearings, and it grip something on plastic holder when screwing the wheel nut , costed me 5€ for nothing.
Checked the received washer size and washer seller did not made an error. Also checked you are not using imperialist stuff, and you wrote millimeters in the comments.
But seems to be promising IF you find the good diameters, gonna try to find a washer that could fit behind the bearing inside the plastic, so the rotating piece of metal will touch the bearing and not the washer.
If the shims touch everything it neutralize the bearing. Bearing outer diameter is 7 mm, you would need a shim that touch inner part of the bearing without touching the outside part of the bearing (not even speaking about plastic holding bearing. That mod really sux and going to upgrade the bearing instead.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 the shims that work for me are the 8×4×1. The bearings I'm using are 8×4×3 for the lc racing hubs/bearings. Even on my standard car bearing 7×4×2.5 they work fine with NO BINDING. You've done to mod and cranked your tyres on stupidly tight. You should of checked for free rolling wheels before running.
Other people have had success with the mod sorry something went wrong for you.
Sounds like you've put the wheel on super tight I've not had one issue with the. Mod,and if your knowledgeable on shims. Why do it in the first place? And why not tell me I'm wrong? Instead I cost you money for nothing? Your own doubt cost you.. I personally haven't had an issue with the sizes I've said.
@@mehimrc1314 Noway it can work good when washer neutralize the bearing, it act exactly like a break disc. It can work only if you do NOT screw enough the wheel nut but it is not the way it is supposed to work with mechanic and bearings. Bearing is made for inner disc rotate in compare to outer disc with minimal friction. Check the original car and you will see the metal transmission only touch the inner disc and outer disc touching plastic, even if you push metal. If you apply a washer that touch inner AND outer part of the washer at same time it makes friction. So if it work for you, I can tell you my mother did 500 Km with her real car with wheel nuts only rotated manually 2 turns, because air compressor of the garage was not working and the guy did not saw it. At the arrival the other garage guy said it was miracle she did not lost her 4 wheels on the highway.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 I'll be honest it's hard to make end meat of what your saying. If it hasn't worked for you then something has went wrong on you end. I've ran my car for months. The shims don't act like a brake at all,they only take up negative space in this situation.
I bought 8x4x1mm shims but the wheels are totally blocked when I tighten the wheels nuts ! I assume that the pin in the axle which lies in the hex adapter gets pushed on the plastic around the OUTER bearing by the wheel nut (via the hex adapter) which can now travel further down the thread after the shimming...Solution: I loosend the wheel nuts a bit and used threadlock on them. I hope that this will work...
When I use 1mm shims I put them on the inside of the c hub to stop that being an issue. Or you buy thinner shims 0.5 0.2 ect same measurements and shim accordingly on the outside as you did but dont add as many or the same issue will happen.
Most rc cars if you wrench the nut on they will bind. It's a delicate game but I'm just trying to make things abit nicer for people and cheaply.
@@mehimrc1314 One nut loosened after 3min of running. I lost the pin in the outdrive while the wheel was overtaking the car...I will try the shims on the outside tomorrow.
@@19Marc79 Most people who own these cars add loctite once you've had the wheel off even without shims. I shim accordingly on the inside of the C hub. Then fit the wheels check for binding, then I'll loctite my wheels on 24 hours before going bashing or speed runs.
@@mehimrc1314 That is exactly how I did it. But the rear diff was not working smoothly...I put a smooth diff in and put Locite on the nut. If a nut loosens again, i will remove the washers.
@@19Marc79 that's your call dude I'm sure even without washers or shims you'll loose a nut. Thanks for commenting and do keep me posted
if u tight the tires screw will be stuck
If you over tighten yes, put the nut on and back it off a little so the wheel move free.
Its very simple and works every time, later videos I've made have better solutions to this problem.
I like this. Shame that after doing this you'll find the play in the rest of the car - especially the rest steering components makes this pointless 😂
Your are SO RIGHT! check my later video out for the steering linkage mod. Fantastic car is tighter than a ducks a## thanks for the awsome comment and feedback.
@@mehimrc1314 Did you bother with the hub carrier bolts steering rod bolts/play? I'm wondering if the upgraded alloy parts might have better tolerances.
Edit.. Just found your other videos. Ta.. I've got something to kill another day in lockdown 💪
@@vinanderson2535 The hub screws with the bushing dont bother the car so much. You could however glue the bushing in place and the screws act as the pivot point just like the a959 without bushing. I take what I see from different cars and apply the same logic. I've got aluminium linkage waiting but you'll go back to stock setup with bushing because of the lack of material the drill out for the m3 screw. So metal link in my opinion wouldn't help without tackling the bushing/link issue.
Glad my videos are keeping you entertained.
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@@vinanderson2535 nice one dude.
Good video brother! I also have a Wltoys! They are very funny! New subscriber to your channel! I invite you to visit mine! Greetings! I LIKE IT
Will do dude thanks for commenting.