Predator 3500 VS Powerhorse 4500 Review Quietest Generator!!!!!

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  • @supermanbatman7445
    @supermanbatman7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    *A quiet **Generater.Systems** , love the dual fuel capabilities, camper is 50 amp but the adapter helps and found it still handles the load. Haven't taken a camping trip yet, that's in a couple of weeks. Will see how well it does over a long weekend.*

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liability wise no!!!!!
      Have people done it …well 😂

  • @jonathanfegelein9361
    @jonathanfegelein9361 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was recommended by a friend who has had an identical model for a couple years now. After filling with oil and test running it. We have used it to power several things and all have work as they should. We ran it most of memorial weekend, ran flawlessly.

  • @johnnysweekends
    @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What do you guys think??
    Powerhorse seems to be the better choice for sure.
    Let me know your thoughts…👍🏼

    • @erhodes352
      @erhodes352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have an older Powerhorse 3500 and a Predator 3500. I haven’t done in depth testing but I run them together for backup power at my house and bring one with the RV if we are dry camping. My subjective opinion is the Powerhorse runs smoother and seemed to ramp up for power surges better. But, they both work well. I just installed solar with and inverter and lithium in my RV so I’m considering selling them and getting a smaller 2000-2500 for the RV and a larger one that produces 240 v for home.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a good setup on the RV. One Honda 2200 would be a good one. Pending if AC is gonna be used and size

    • @erhodes352
      @erhodes352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends - I have two AC’s on the 5th wheel. One is 15k and the other is 13.5k. I put Microair Easy starts on both and my 15k is wired to the inverter circuit so it can run (not long) on batteries. More importantly, it can be boosted from the batteries so I should be able to run both on a 3,000-3,500 watt Gen and easily run one on a 2,000 watt one. I’ve thought about keeping my Powerhorse to bring if we are dry camping in hot weather and getting a 2,000 Gen for the rest of the time. I love the weight and quietness of the Honda but I don’t love the price. I’m still researching if it’s worth my money vs a less expensive one given how limited it will be used with the solar now.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ahh got ya. Yea sound like a good set up and you have all the right items with a soft start. Biggest thing will be where you camp and if you need both ACs for hours.
      You could even look into a mini split if your RV has a place but they really are great and the power draw is so much less. A few installs have been done on 5ths and more. I was gonna do one but no good place in the model I have now.
      But if you grab a small gen the small 2200 Honda is a power house for sure. I like mine. Look in the used world for them. Can find a great deal and boom you have a Honda and will last for a long time…
      Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

    • @erhodes352
      @erhodes352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnnysweekends You are welcome. You are making some great content. Thanks for all the effort on the videos!

  • @rickybyrum6214
    @rickybyrum6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    REALLY IMPRESSED! We had a generator (supposedly) a good one, died after four uses. So looking at getting a new one. I really liked the previous video of how you had it hooked up to your home.
    Take care, Ricky Byrum

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching 😀👍🏼

  • @flash8051
    @flash8051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice...I've been running my Predator 3500 for about 2 years now with no problems. Made a few minor mods so it runs well at altitude (9k ft.) and no problems.
    The biggest gripe I have is the cheap, tiny little wheels and the wheel lock. Ever try dragging this thing through the dirt in a campground? There are mods out there to remedy this, but my next gen. will have dual fuel and a remote start so...

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was the biggest issue with it was the little wheels and no lift handle. Makes it hard to move.
      Wow 9k is high power drop for sure.
      Yea dual fuel is nice and the remote for sure!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve seen some using this now. Quick and easy and just go…. But might be able to source a little cheaper amzn.to/446Xj4b

  • @dbriggs1689
    @dbriggs1689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice comparison. I've never heard of power horse before.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. And yes they were first before predator line from what I believe.

  • @gregoffenback6910
    @gregoffenback6910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I had seen this 3 weeks ago when I bought a new Predator. I am happy with it. The only thing that disappoints me is the whimsy 3 months warentee. It should be at least a year. The predator does meet my power needs, and I love how quiet it is. I already changed the oil in it after our first trip.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s still a good unit and one of the most recommended if not buying a Honda.
      But yea the new powerhorse is pretty nice.

  • @campingalan
    @campingalan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good morning! Thank you for this great comparison video! I really like how you quantify the escalating amp loads to determine where the generator reaches it's cut off point. And....you use items that are real world that people would actually be using in their camper.
    Ha....I am still all over the map as to what I will chose for a generator. I need to just order something as I suspect our travel trailer will arrive in a week or two. I will definitely put a soft start on the a/c. I would really prefer to get a smaller 2200-2500w generator so that I can move it easily. And then if I find that the altitudes of CO are too much for it, can get a second one. Of course, I'd love for that to be a Honda. But, I can get 2 off brands for the price of one honda. Or....I can cut to the chase and just get one of those 3500-4000w 100lb options. That would definitely compensate for the altitude, and we wouldn't have to count amps as much. As long as it is a wheeled model, I've seen folks carry ramps to help get the generators in their pick ups.
    Another consideration is that I'll install a fairly robust solar system. So the generator would only be a back up if cloudy or we are in a treed area. And, it would be to run the a/c on occasion.
    Safe travels....and thank you for what your do. Your videos are very informative.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome glad I could help out. Yea it’s hard to find the perfect setup. The small ones are definitely nice but one big is also nice for simplicity but having two smalls is not that bad especially when they are light, and easy to store.

  • @nismotuner904
    @nismotuner904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    currently the Powerhorse is priced below the Pradator. If my Predator 3500 should fail. Powerhorse will be the direction i will go.
    Similar package, more power, less cost= more value

  • @PitbullSoco
    @PitbullSoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But for the same price you can get a champion 4650 watt with remote start. Which I have lol, and I love it.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I would choose that model as well. I did a review on that one and was impressed overall.

  • @functionaldoc5054
    @functionaldoc5054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your no grass back yard less mowing and using precious water. Like you review the GenTent sometime. The price of generators have been fluctuating like the stock market. I am enjoying Champion generator dual fuel do to your recommendation.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I will finish it sometime soon when prices maybe come back to reality and supply comes back in.
      Which I think according to a supplier the fake turf I’m wanting will be available soon.
      Yea and it seems the generators are all over the place lately lol.
      Glad you are enjoying the Champion..👍🏼
      And thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

  • @hifisalty25
    @hifisalty25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you install that voltage-watt and amp gauge. You installed on the converter

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s from a pretty old video but still applies. Parts are in the description.
      DIY Rv battery monitor install AILI DROX battery monitor
      th-cam.com/video/XYwQTAt4J7E/w-d-xo.html

  • @rudyruiz9521
    @rudyruiz9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know if the generator has a pressure relief valve for starting? Running compression test on one for a friend and I am only getting about 70 psi. Have spark and fuel. Also, is there a fuel shut off plunger on the carb? Wondering if that is what I see. Maybe just staving it. Valves are abour 6 thousandths at TDC. 500 hours.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      70 is pretty low psi. 90 I think is lowest for service limit.
      The carb just has a float like a normal carb to stop fuel flow and the control dial turns the fuel valve on and off.
      Make sure low speed jet is not plugged but your compression is pretty low.

    • @rudyruiz9521
      @rudyruiz9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends Thank you for a response, quick too. I really appreciate it. I was thinking the rings must be worn, but I thought I'd ask. I was expecting to leaking valves causing low compression because he never did them. Beyond that, I thought maybe it has a pressure relief valve or cam that may be causing the issue. Thanks a lot for the information. I will give him the bad news.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea if valves are correct then good chance it’s done.
      Did he always run it at higher loads?

  • @therealcomment1811
    @therealcomment1811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video... I really liked the way you compared them... I have the Predator 3500... I love it... but I will definitely buy the Powerhorse now... I need more wattage... I am assuming you can parallel these generators together?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you, and yes the powerhorse 4500 can be paralleled to another for a total of 7000 running watts!!! 😲 lol
      Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀

  • @DavidGarcia-vh3ul
    @DavidGarcia-vh3ul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 predator 3500 watt inverter generators and after rejetting them they now run perfect. I live at 5k feet above sea level and when they got hot they would sputter. The spark arrestor kept getting fouled and I deleted it and even even removed the charcoal canister. This did NOT fix the problem. It was running too rich. There is a vid on this by the way.
    I also bought a WEN 400 open frame inverter generator and it actually came with a couple extra carburetor jets for high altitude. I used the high altitude jet and it wroks great but is a lot louder than the predators.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea at that altitude a rejet for sure.
      And yea the spark arrestor will get plugged of running to rich and low loads were it’s just above idle or maybe mid throttle or less. Never gets warm enough to burn it off.

    • @makerofmanythings8447
      @makerofmanythings8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnnysweekends Do you know what's the best altitude for the factory carburetor jet is.
      Thanks man.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you looking for a jet or what altitude the generators are normally good to until power loses?

    • @makerofmanythings8447
      @makerofmanythings8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends My altitude is about 480'. I just want to know which jet would offer the best performance and fuel economy. Thanks.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typically they come lean from the factory so they will be as clean as possible but the original predator actually ran rich and would spot the flame arrestor if loads were 1/3 or less.
      I do t know if the 4500 is like that as I didn’t run enough hours on it to evaluate to running condition.
      Normally if it’s running fine and the plug looks good along with flame arrestor then don’t touch it.

  • @jeremynelson8496
    @jeremynelson8496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Johnny nice review. I have to say if the 212 engine can put out more watts then the powerhorse has to be the winner. I have the Predator 3500 and it has never let me down. Recently the screen went. Do you know if they have fixed the issue on the replacement screen or is it better to wire up an auxiliary gauge as you had?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess on eBay I did see a screen a while back. Could look again.
      But the powerhorse came first then predator came next then the new powerhorse again. I assume we may see a predator update but they sell so well I don’t know if they will.
      I personally like the champion 4500 or 4650 and dual dual would be even better.
      But Genmax has new units coming so I’m waiting to get my hands on that.

  • @emilyberkowitz66
    @emilyberkowitz66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Powerhorse - warranty, parts and service at Northern Tool. Predator - no service by HF. Parts ?? Maybe - Where?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering the units are pretty much exactly the same all the parts cross over except the inverter board. 👍🏼

  • @jamesmason7124
    @jamesmason7124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own and love ❤ my Predator 3500 generator

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are a good gen overall. But the early version’s seem to have less problems then the latest models.

  • @Vindictus67
    @Vindictus67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review. Good noise and load test - but, please get the name right. It's PowerHORSE, not Powerhouse. The manufacturer might appreciate that...

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, In the description I noted that I had mistakenly called it powerhouse vs powerhorse, and apologized as we are all human. Funny how even in editing I didn’t catch it until the video was live for a couple hours and I had watched it again and noticed. 🤦 now if I was affiliated or sponsored by the company I would have remade the whole video. Since I am not the video still shows the needed info for someone wanting info about the powerhorse 4500.
      Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀

  • @davido6915
    @davido6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know anything about the echo egi3600ln? Looks like a good option, echo equipment i trust alot more than these brands.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That for the most part is another Chinese made gen from one of the many companies. If I look around for a bit I’m sure I could find the Chinese origin of where and it’s copy model like so many other brands. I have not found one model made in America or Japan. Except Yamaha and Honda which those are all changing now.
      It’s the world we live in. ..😕

    • @davido6915
      @davido6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends what a shame!

  • @Mr.C-Mister
    @Mr.C-Mister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Only recommendation is time of silence too hear the sound. Good setup and video editing.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got it… and thank you 👍🏼😀

  • @garycotz563
    @garycotz563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow 3500 views in one day! COOL! PS: The Powerhorse is

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know right, pretty neat. Could be just luck.
      And yes almost every new gen for the last couple years all have a THD of 5% or less.
      I don’t know of any you can buy that are not at least that. Maybe some used ones.
      Not sure.
      Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀

  • @pcarp5884
    @pcarp5884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those 2 & about 30 other brands are all made by Loncin.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes as mentioned in the video. Although I don’t know 30 other brands made by Loncin.
      Only a few are made by them, and several others made by various other Chinese companies

  • @davido6915
    @davido6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johny what 3500 inverter brand would you buy? I really dont trust predator and i can’t afford a honda. Does any company use a non Chinese engine besides honda?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately no even though DuroMax says is USA built I assume everything is supplied from China. I looked up a engine once from them and it’s origin was from China. I would need a comparable model to be a 100% sure but I have researched enough now to where that’s where they are all from now. Except certain model and sizes. Just depends.
      Even Honda is having China build some of there gens now. It’s a low number I guess like 15% percent ish but that will continue to climb I’m sure.
      Basically a good name brand that has good customer service and warranty.
      I like champion as they have been around a while and have decent models, and many good reports and replies from customers who have purchased from them and have been satisfied with the unit and warranty issues.
      I really like the 4500 dual fuel model. Or if you need more power the 5500 fuel but it does get a little bigger and heavier.

    • @davido6915
      @davido6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends im checking out amazon and i see the duel fuel for 938.00 and i also see a all gas with remote, don’t know if that would be a better option since i probably won’t run propane? Both are about the same price and i do like the black one thats for rvs? What do u think? Good price?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything is up on price a little right now. Doesn’t really matter if it’s black or yellow they both have a 30 amp RV plug. I like dual fuel for the option but if you want the remote that might better suit you, they don’t make dual fuel with a remote because you have to shut off the generator at the propane tank, so it’s kind of a safety option

    • @davido6915
      @davido6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends i ended up getting a generac 3300 because it can be easily carried and should still run my rv. Thanks for your input!

    • @hitmanhite8958
      @hitmanhite8958 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thing I love about owning a toy hauler is I have a 30 gallon fuel tank with a generator fuel line. Not interested what so ever with dual fuel with all that reserve. We don’t carry tours with us on every camping trip.

  • @dougharlow6037
    @dougharlow6037 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Harbor Freight Predator 3500 generator. At 10 hrs. my display quit. And the 30 amp plug is not orientated properly I called them. They wouldn't do anything, they wouldn't even admit they were having problems with the displays. I use to stop by their store and buy something every week, NO MORE. My generator still has all the tags on.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get the warranty? They have a really good return program even with out it. I would try and return but yea the screens started going bad on the latest units and over all they are not as reliable as the original ones from about 3 years ago or so

    • @dougharlow6037
      @dougharlow6037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends No warranty. I've never use it, just breaking it in, 1/2 hr at a time once a month. It's like new but past warranty. I bought this for emergeny power outages only and so far not needed. Still has all the stickers on it.

    • @dougharlow6037
      @dougharlow6037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The generator should last at least as long as break in period.
      a. Breaking-in the Engine will help to ensure proper equipment and Engine operation.
      b. The break-in period will last about 30 hours of use.
      DO NOT exceed 75% of the Generator’s running wattage during this period.

  • @JohnCillian
    @JohnCillian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You keep saying powerHouse but it is powerHorse

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🤦 I know I put a apology in the description and mentioned I called it powerhouse.
      Unfortunately like everyone I’m human and make mistakes.
      Trying to fix but not at all easy.

    • @How_Lay
      @How_Lay ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this comment I was so confused and had no idea what he was referring to at all until I saw this comment! I have no idea what I would have done without you! Your cognitive fortitude and clairvoyant like ability will forever stay in my mind!

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @retiredguyadventures6211
    @retiredguyadventures6211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 3500 is more then enough for my little camper so I'll pass on the 4500.

  • @carlburns4343
    @carlburns4343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Florida and I had a powerhorse generator not even a year old, We had a hurricane come any knock out my power, I pull out my powerhorse and started it up 6 hr later it blows up, So I called the company they told me To Bad, Come to find out the company was having trouble with there generators blowing up and never said a word, Needless to say I'm not a fan of Powerhorse.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow interesting I didn’t know anyone was having issues. This is the same generator as the predator with a different inverter board.
      Surprised it was having a issue.

    • @carlburns4343
      @carlburns4343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Johnny this was a few years back

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh got ya. So was it the previous 3500 model then?

    • @carlburns4343
      @carlburns4343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, It was a bigger model 7000 or more not sure.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh got ya. Yea that’s probably made from a completely different company.

  • @davidlopanful
    @davidlopanful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. 1 question where to get powerhouse? HB is everywhere here (albuquerque). I have never seen a powrhouse just overpriced hondas and champions. not much sold locally

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Northern tool is a carrier of the unit and you can also buy it in the link in the description through generatorbible for the best deal.
      👍🏼

    • @davidlopanful
      @davidlopanful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends No NT's in NM. Closest is in Amarillo

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got ya so web link only or a different option.

  • @CesarRios71
    @CesarRios71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You !☆☆☆☆☆

  • @mikecon7634
    @mikecon7634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tks

  • @johnporemski5871
    @johnporemski5871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine won't start

  • @chrisgrob8812
    @chrisgrob8812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had 3. POWERHOUSE 3500. purchased 1 the other 2 were warranty out. HAVE never gotten more than 50hrs out of a powerhouse. POS.

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow interesting, surprised because it’s the same exact model as the predator.
      The 4500 model is different but haven’t heard much problems with the 3500.

  • @davidsawmandave8731
    @davidsawmandave8731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of silly sound checks , I would like to see a unit that has been in service for years , who knows how these cheap China crap will last

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most care about two things, how loud it is and how long it will last. But I don’t have time to run generators and burn fuel for 2/3000 hrs.
      People complain about China stuff, well I bet I could pin point out 85% of the stuff in your house or what you own is Chinese made. No problem with all that stuff but a generator from China? Oh no.
      I don’t like it either but unfortunately people 90% of the time choose price for a item they need over USA made and name brand, am I not right??

    • @davidsawmandave8731
      @davidsawmandave8731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnysweekends agree , it's just like this money don't go far and it is hard to make a critical decision on something that will last , so u don't have to keep purchasing, however my friend bought a Chinese stihl clone 044 chainsaw and that thing rocks but again will it last ?

    • @johnnysweekends
      @johnnysweekends  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk, it seems the items that are look a likes or a “good” comparable item if it be a saw or generator are actually doing better then they used to. And unfortunately Honda is sliding the other way. According to the forums and groups not to mention comments from viewers, the Hondas and having their share of problems as well. Now for the most part you can fix Honda and Yamaha when the others may or may not be fixable. Which is why I mostly promote champion for a not Honda or Yam. Even Wen as there are places to get parts and such.
      Unfortunately Honda finally sold out and now more and more of the items made are starting to come from china.
      Over all the Honda will still last but if it is not lasting as long and parts have to be replaced then your feeding money into something you could have bought two or three gens. Maybe four depending on the parts and labor the Honda needs. Plus the new tech and power the others provide.
      Unfortunately life has gone the way of disposable. No one keeps things very long. The seven year average is so true.