Longsword vs. Saber, Saber vs. Rapier, Longsword vs. Rapier are HEMA's most interesting sparring. The Qing dynasty has used a short spear of about 120 cm. (There is evidence that it has been officially adopted by the Qing dynasty) It may have been used when the British and Qing troops fought. I am wondering what kind of battle the British saber and the 120 cm spear will be.
Nice to see someone using some ements of Fiore! And cool that Jordan had a dagger, I always think you should have a dagger by your side when sparring with longsword, especially if your era of study is that of Fiore's. It was a nice bout, lots of manoevering and positioning.
Absolutely, we don't study Fiore as a club so it's always fun when Jordan brings that in. About the daggers, we commonly wear them when sparring with all sorts of weapons, I (Nick) have just not put one on for over a year due to Covid restrictions. We have the 1m plus social disancing rule with face masks on, and 2m without masks, and so we can't use them. As soon as we are allowed to close in again we will put the daggers back on! It's a great extra element to the fight.
Nick I am amazed of your skills ,, you are like a sensei that I am learning from ,, i have a question what is your height if you dont mind? I am 170 cm and when fighting Saber against taller guys I feel difficult but in this video you proofed that i am wrong and it doesnt matter its all about the skills, techniques and how fast the reaction. If you have a book about Saber techniques please to recommend ,, thank you! Your fan from United Arab Emirates
Thank you, though height is still always a factor. It is an advantage, but it can be overcome in a many places. I will need to make some videos about fighting taller opponents as we have no videos on it yet, nor books. In short I can say, don't aim for deep targets on first intention strikes. If your swords are of equal length, their sword arm is just as close for you as yours is for them, ans so this should be a primary target. Many tall fencers also do not shift or protect their long legs, instead relying on reach for this, this can be exploited. Lastly, one of the best times to strike is after your parry as they have commited a lot of distance, and if they were using their reach in wide measure they must reach a lot in their attack, and can be struck much more easily than trying to reach them in guard.
surprised to see the shorter saber dude dominating a much taller opponent with a longsword. cool to watch, aesthetically sidesword has huge appeal to me for hypothetical apocalyptic senarios :p nice to see validity against the king of swords
Thanks. I (Nick) keep meaning to do a video on them as I love them, they are the Adidas Lux shin guards. Almost 3 years use now and they have been brilliant.
Longsword dude is using it a little like a sabre ! He is a Fiore background ? Can’t help but feel if he stayed in the 4 hangen he would trouble u more with that length Still very nice
He is indeed a Fiore fencer. You know I (Nick) really like longsworders to take hanging positions when I have single sword, as it more easily axposes their lead arm, and the hanging guard in turn stops most things they throw back.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing we are starting to do a lot more mixed weapons sparring so it’s great to see u guys who have more experience in it Interesting re lead arm and I can see what u mean , especially if u mean actual hanging guards. I am referring to moving between Pflug and ochs with winds and cuts into point forward binds to pressure the shorter blade Appreciate the response
Many of them do, it is allowed. Its unlikely in this particular video because I (in red) would do absolutely everything in this scenario to avoid it, having a sabre and being the much smaller fighter.
Longsword guy stop dropping the blade every time you move that sword he presses you , hold in it up with the point to his face and stab, there should be no reason why the Saber closes distance like that , hold the sword on guard parry parry , press him and thrust . Stab the hell out of him , not to mention the weight of the longsword would bind most of parries using one hand you have distance and increased power with the long handle , when he steps back press him so that his blade is in the ready parry stance where the cutting edge is facing the ceiling I forget the number parry sorry, then faint a downward cut, once you hear the ting performe an undercut popping his blade up and simple thrust forward from the outside of his sword hand. Punish him for every step forward he takes . In any case keep up the training that looked like it was so much fun
I love how Nick took advantage of the saber's superior infighting, and kept closing the distance to his reach. In my experience with foil, often fighting much taller men, I quickly learned to stay way out of their reach, wait for them to over extend, parry, and spring in, or step in juuuust the right amount of close, where they were in my ideal reach, and they had to resort to infighting. The thing is, it takes about 2-3 minutes to figure out just where that is on a substantially taller opponent with a long reach. But once you've got that dialed in, especially if you have an opponent who doesn't realize or know how to keep you in their kill zone at all times, you HAVE them. And HOW.
Tall lanky longswordsmen are a menace to society. Great mixed sword video. I find longsword less taxing on my arm joints than sabre.
the longsword guy (or the long swordguy) is putting some power into those strikes
Longsword vs. Saber, Saber vs. Rapier, Longsword vs. Rapier are HEMA's most interesting sparring.
The Qing dynasty has used a short spear of about 120 cm. (There is evidence that it has been officially adopted by the Qing dynasty)
It may have been used when the British and Qing troops fought.
I am wondering what kind of battle the British saber and the 120 cm spear will be.
www.mandarinmansion.com/article/spears-qing-dynasty
omg it's a giant with a longsword! wish I could tell what they were saying.
What we're saying pretty much all boils down to either, "nice hit" or "you bugg*r" for landing a nice hit.
Nice to see someone using some ements of Fiore! And cool that Jordan had a dagger, I always think you should have a dagger by your side when sparring with longsword, especially if your era of study is that of Fiore's.
It was a nice bout, lots of manoevering and positioning.
Absolutely, we don't study Fiore as a club so it's always fun when Jordan brings that in. About the daggers, we commonly wear them when sparring with all sorts of weapons, I (Nick) have just not put one on for over a year due to Covid restrictions. We have the 1m plus social disancing rule with face masks on, and 2m without masks, and so we can't use them. As soon as we are allowed to close in again we will put the daggers back on! It's a great extra element to the fight.
those damn sabres can surely throw fast cuts from the wrist if handled by well trained people
I love this kind of disparate pairing. Fun to spar and fun to watch!
Pure elegance. Beautiful.
Nick I am amazed of your skills ,, you are like a sensei that I am learning from ,, i have a question what is your height if you dont mind?
I am 170 cm and when fighting Saber against taller guys I feel difficult but in this video you proofed that i am wrong and it doesnt matter its all about the skills, techniques and how fast the reaction.
If you have a book about Saber techniques please to recommend ,, thank you!
Your fan from United Arab Emirates
Thank you, though height is still always a factor. It is an advantage, but it can be overcome in a many places. I will need to make some videos about fighting taller opponents as we have no videos on it yet, nor books. In short I can say, don't aim for deep targets on first intention strikes. If your swords are of equal length, their sword arm is just as close for you as yours is for them, ans so this should be a primary target. Many tall fencers also do not shift or protect their long legs, instead relying on reach for this, this can be exploited. Lastly, one of the best times to strike is after your parry as they have commited a lot of distance, and if they were using their reach in wide measure they must reach a lot in their attack, and can be struck much more easily than trying to reach them in guard.
I believe he said somewhere that he's 5'7."
Sorry I misse d my height in the response, I (Nick) am indeed 5' 7", or 170cm.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing How tall is the other guy out of curiosity?
surprised to see the shorter saber dude dominating a much taller opponent with a longsword. cool to watch, aesthetically sidesword has huge appeal to me for hypothetical apocalyptic senarios :p nice to see validity against the king of swords
Long sword guy is long! Good form! Good show!
Jordan is so happy he is wearing heavy gloves, poor fingers!
That longswordman was getting cut up.
Geralt of Rivia Vs Olgierd Von Everec
Hello love your videos. I have a question the fencer in red what kind of shin guards is he using under his socks?
Thanks. I (Nick) keep meaning to do a video on them as I love them, they are the Adidas Lux shin guards. Almost 3 years use now and they have been brilliant.
sweet! this was cool
Longsword dude is using it a little like a sabre !
He is a Fiore background ? Can’t help but feel if he stayed in the 4 hangen he would trouble u more with that length
Still very nice
He is indeed a Fiore fencer. You know I (Nick) really like longsworders to take hanging positions when I have single sword, as it more easily axposes their lead arm, and the hanging guard in turn stops most things they throw back.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing we are starting to do a lot more mixed weapons sparring so it’s great to see u guys who have more experience in it
Interesting re lead arm and I can see what u mean , especially if u mean actual hanging guards. I am referring to moving between Pflug and ochs with winds and cuts into point forward binds to pressure the shorter blade
Appreciate the response
Cool.
Feel like the abusing the fools guard would give him a better chance
Sauron against a hobbit. Lol
And we all know who won in the book...
these fights should include grappling
Many of them do, it is allowed. Its unlikely in this particular video because I (in red) would do absolutely everything in this scenario to avoid it, having a sabre and being the much smaller fighter.
Longsword guy stop dropping the blade every time you move that sword he presses you , hold in it up with the point to his face and stab, there should be no reason why the Saber closes distance like that , hold the sword on guard parry parry , press him and thrust . Stab the hell out of him , not to mention the weight of the longsword would bind most of parries using one hand you have distance and increased power with the long handle , when he steps back press him so that his blade is in the ready parry stance where the cutting edge is facing the ceiling I forget the number parry sorry, then faint a downward cut, once you hear the ting performe an undercut popping his blade up and simple thrust forward from the outside of his sword hand. Punish him for every step forward he takes . In any case keep up the training that looked like it was so much fun
I love how Nick took advantage of the saber's superior infighting, and kept closing the distance to his reach. In my experience with foil, often fighting much taller men, I quickly learned to stay way out of their reach, wait for them to over extend, parry, and spring in, or step in juuuust the right amount of close, where they were in my ideal reach, and they had to resort to infighting. The thing is, it takes about 2-3 minutes to figure out just where that is on a substantially taller opponent with a long reach. But once you've got that dialed in, especially if you have an opponent who doesn't realize or know how to keep you in their kill zone at all times, you HAVE them. And HOW.
Felt like longsword guy was not utilizing the thrust enough, but, hey, what do I know.
I think thrusts are pretty tricky against sabre
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