Battle of the Strat Neck Pickups - Ron Ellis, Klein, Kloppmann, Brandonwound!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- 00:00 Ron Ellis 50/60
01:15 Kloppmann ST60
02:31 Klein 1961 for SVL Guitars
03:49 Klein 1962
05:45 Kloppmann Real 62
07:40 Brandonwound S62
Is there REALLY a BIG difference between leading brands of pickups? Not really. I put this video together in an effort to fight against hype. We blame gear all the time, instead of focusing on finding tone ourselves, without wasting time on subtle differences like pickups. All renowned pickup brands are good. They aren't that different like most want us to believe. Here is a video where I play a part with 6 different brands of pickups. And I sound like myself with all of them... the differences are subtle. What do YOU think?
This jam is part of a larger group of jams, using the same backing track, and playing similar stuff through the same rig. The objective was to have a relaxed backing, while playing with different sets of pickups. You can also find links to full demos of these pickup sets below.
Guitar: Fender Custom Shop 1961 Strat
Amp: Two Rock Silver Sterling Signature
Pedal: Jan Ray overdrive clone
Delay and Reverb from Universal Audio OX.
Ron Ellis 50/60 demo: • Ron Ellis 50/60 Strat ...
Kloppmann ST60 demo: • Kloppmann ST60 Strat P...
Kloppmann Real 62 demo: • Kloppmann Real 62 Stra...
Klein 1961 for SVL Guitars demo: • Klein 1961 Epic Series...
Klein 1962 demo: • Klein Epic Series 1962...
Brandonwound S62 demo: • Brandonwound S60/S62 S...
Playlist of ALL DEMOS: • Ron Ellis 50/60 Strat ...
Playlist of ALL JAMS: • Ron Ellis 50/60 Strat ...
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I would be happy with pretty much any one of the pickups demo'd! The differences between them are pretty subtle. Thanks for putting this consolidated video of the different pickups; great job!
Agreed!! Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for the demo. Great playing, some very tasty lines in there, a touch of Gilmouresque feel too. The Ron Ellis for me, subtle differences but it scoops the most and has tamed tops.
I was listening to all your demos and now to this comparison. First of all I want to express my gratitude to you for all the effort and meticulous care you put into these. Wonderful job!
As a listener I have to say that listening to these via TH-cam and fairly good headset I was not able to discern too many differences. You could easily move one knob or the other on the amp's tonestack and fool me that it was a change of pickups. Which is to say that they all sounded marvellous to me --- perhaps the dominant factor here was the amp itself. It is tempting to ask you to add some really basic/crappy pickup to the list to emphasize some contrasting qualities, but my guess is that even then differences would be subtle. Probably you would feel the most under your fingers and in the room with speakers thumping your chest. Happy times and delicious experience. Thank you again!
Thanks for your comment! As I explain in the description of this video, the objective was exactly that: to show that all renowned pickups are good. Nowadays the internet is full of (mis)information and a lot of marketing, and people claim that certain things are "magical" or "10 times better" than those of their competitors. In terms of pickups, there is big discussion out there of people claiming that some of them are just SO MUCH better than the rest... and that, for me, is simply not true. Pickups aren't rocket science. All of the renowned winders make great pickups, and tone DOES NOT lie on the pickups, but ON US and on the sum of everything else. I am sure that most people would not be able to tell much if I didn't put the brand of the pickups. In fact I posted this video, without brands, to another site, and people liked the last one a lot... the last one being the cheapest of all.
Thank you again for your comment!
Great licks and very appropriate for comparison purposes.
I kept going back to the Ron Ellis pick ups, and they just sounded rounder and may be a touch more compressed. Anyway, I’d go with them for sure. Thanks 🙏
Kloppmann ST60 are my favorit!
Thanks for commenting!
Why?
Firstly thanks for taking the time to put these vids together, I know it takes a lot of effort. I think the Ron Ellis have the “purist” tone if there was such a thing. They have the clarity and sustain in the neck that the others don’t have. Ron Ellis’s also have a little more scooped mids, fullness in the lows and smoother highs and a better consistency across the fretboard, from low E to high E. Also when I’ve seen and heard them in your other videos, I’ve noticed the high mids are not as harsh as other pickups, yet they still cut through nicely. I know these are just the neck positions in this video. But I’ve done a comparison between the RE and Kloppmann 62 from your other videos and the RE seem to have a little more depth to their tone, and have more musicality to me. The RE sound the closest to the real thing as well. They seem to speak to me in this recording the most too, followed closely by the kloppmann Real 62. KR62 are the next best thing though if you can’t afford the Ron Ellis pickups IMO.
Thanks for your comment man! Indeed I agree with you. I also made this video as a blind test. Same audio. On a guitar forum from Latin America. Everyone picked the same Ron Ellis pickup. Well not everyone but most voted for it. The second close contender was the Brandonwound!
No problem. Yes I do like the brandonwound pickups as well. But as you say those Rob Ellis pups seem to have something that the others don’t. I’m not surprised that the blind test worked out that way.
All of them great. I put a chinese Fleor A5 pickups in my cheap strat copy. That’s great too :) 🤷♂️
They sounds very similar... 😉
The player is very tasty and good vibes , congratulations Mister ! 👍
Thank you very much!
Excelente video. En mi humilde opinión, las diferencias son sutiles, todos los micrófonos son de gran nivel y una buena elección.👏👏👏
Totalmente de acuerdo! Son todos excelentes! 👍
all sound great, just very subtle differences in compression & fundamental front of notes
Kloppmann 60s are my fav… I think they have just the right amount of air & fundamental note… great job… which are your favorite….
Honestly I can live with any of them. They’re all great!!
I have Klein 57s and love them. Their price is MUCH more accessible than than the Ron Ellis sets.
Yes, agreed. Klein’s prices are more accessible.
All sound terrific! Those Klein epic 62s spoke to me! What amp is being used? It sounds very good! Beautiful playing!
The gear is listed in the description. Thanks!
Proof the tone is on fingers and amp mainly
Agreed. The amp is the most important part of the rig without a doubt in my opinion!
Great job...I have a Real 62 on my old strat with a maple neck/alder body...what experiences do you have with a maple neck instead of rosewood?
I’ve used Klein pickups on maple boards. And also Ron Ellis 50/60 which I liked very much with maple. And then the good old fat 50s.
@@argbluesman Thanks man...I like a lot Ron Elis 50/60 on your guitar......maybe I should try... Pozdrav!!
Which was your favourite?
I sound the same with any of them… I am happy with any of them really. But I was really surprised by the brandonwoind. Amazing set overall.
klien 61 👍
To me the Epic 62 had that 60’s vibe. A bit more bottom end bite and fullness. The highs were close to all the pickups. But you could make a shitty ceramic sound good through a 6000.0 head. 😂
I’m a firm believer that the amp is the most important piece of gear in our rig!
Is it just me or did the Ron Ellis seem a bit looser on the low end than the others?
It could be. Yes.
You tried the Seymour Duncan scooped set yet ?
No, never tried it.
i like Ron Ellis neck, scoopy…and Klein 62 (sweetest) of the bunch..kloppmann st60 sounds about the same with Klein 61..good, but not special. Kloppmann st62 sounds a bit dull…heard nothing vintage from brandonwound IMO..
“Nothing” vintage from Brandonwound? I find that statement a bit extreme. Care to elaborate?
@@argbluesman its sound a bit too modern..just too solid.
@@aizat3736 it’s probably a bit to overwound for your taste. You would probably find a true vintage Strat with even more winds. They’re all different it doesn’t make anyone of them less vintage.
@@johncruz9357 i dont really hear its being overwound. no not really. it must also be around low 6k. i meant that they are not be able to simulate weak magnets tone…short sustain, woody tone..its hard to describe…need to hear hundreds of times of vintage guitar to really know what that is
@@aizat3736 I’m not saying it’s hot.. it probably just has more winds giving you more meat to note.
klein 1961 total gilmour tones.
They all aound the same.
Thanks for commenting!
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Hi! Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean.