A Prophecy Told by Ghost's Tobias Forge | Drinks With Johnny
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- An unholy union is upon us as Johnny Christ is joined by Papa Emeritus himself, Tobias Forge. The Ghost frontman is quick to rekindle his friendship with Johnny and reflect back on their time touring together. Tobias reveals his process of going from the road right into the studio, and how a change of musicians allows that transition to happen so quickly.
Tobias reflects back on his childhood and how he got into metal. We learn about Sweden’s OK magazine, and how it helped to shape Tobias’ views on the world. We fast forward to Ghost’s most recent tour, and the gratitude Tobias has for the crew that allows him to perform each night.
We also learn on this episode:
• Some of Tobias’ favorite comedians
• Why you should listen to The Shaggs
• The importance of doing something you love
• How Ghost has carved their niche in the metal world
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This could have been a great interview, but JC keeps cutting Tobias off. Let the man finish a thought.
AGREE
EXACTLY! Thank you!!!
It’s better than that iheartRadio interview he did.
It’s because there’s a latency between the 2 feeds.
Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s probably just stoked to have Tobias on, and he isn’t a professional interviewer ! *edit* ok… yeah he cuts him off a lot
If I had the opportunity to speak with Tobias for an hour I simply would not spend most of the time interrupting him but I guess that's just me
This isn’t a formal interview. This is a discussion between friends & not just about Tobias. Plus you can clearly tell Johnny Christ a little typsy
Figured Tobias to be a difficult guy with his controlling nature about the music and image of Ghost. The reality is the music is super catchy and the shows are epic. I can see from this interview that this guy is a true professional and intelligent and really cares about the fans. He's genuinely hurt by what covid has done and how it affects live music. He's a good guy and let's face it....he can write music. He's got IT.
True. Maybe he's particular, or a bit of a control-freak about some things, but considering how successful Ghost has been up to this point in time I think that is his right since it obviously works. I'm glad to hear that he's doing all he can to cultivate a good working environment for everyone on the tour too since not only is it the decent thing to do, but I bet it also results in better shows as well so really it's a win-win sort of situation.
There is nothing wrong with having a singular and monopolistic vision for your music. Compromising with others can dilute your vision and I completely understand that. Ghost, Nine inch nails, Megadeth, Filter, Foo Fighters - all wouldn’t be the bands they are without that singular vision of the frontman and songwriter.
✔️💯🏆🤘
@@Grimeyhoob Static X as well.
@@Grimeyhoob Out of all those bands Foo Fighters is probably the most "team oriented" one.
The way his face lits up when he talks about his children melts my heart.
Wish Johnny would quit cutting Tobias off… like.. dude. LOL
Yes! That's exactly what I said!
@@PapaEmeritus_4evr can’t believe this dude has a podcast with how badly he interrupted his guest… Tobias of course always has the best manners…
I think part of the problem was the connection delay. You see this happen even with professional journalists/interviewers.
@@jmb415 possibly. It wouldn’t be hard to delay your mouth a bit in return for your guest as well though. There are plenty of times where Tobias is mid story and he just hops right in. Very clear he wasn’t done speaking.
@@kaymichelle0585 True. I think he had so much he wanted to talk about his mouth and brain got a little ahead of himself. This probably would've gone much smoother had it been in person. Still an entertaining talk/interview. Tobias gives such interesting interviews. Did you hear he has a cameo in the Netflix series Clark? I believe he's in ep 6. :)
I’ve met TF a couple times and he is as real he seems. Down to earth and funny.
Did he ever introduce himself? I ask, because I have a running bet with a buddy of mine on how his name is pronounced. He says it's like the interviewer in this video pronounces it: *toe-BYE-as forj*, whereas I say that's the "Americanized" version that Tobias politely accepts. I have heard his name spoken in Swedish - his native country - as *toe-BEE-as FOR-gay*, and think that's the correct pronunciation. So I'm wondering if he introduced himself as toe-BYE-as or toe-BEE-as?
@@lokidobbs3644 - Cool; thank you!
@@dhunter1133 th-cam.com/users/shortsCJVeIH4OpZ0?feature=share here's the man himself
@@dhunter1133his name sounds so much sweeter in Swedish 😇
Tobias is very polite, intelligent and a super criative human being. It's a privilege to hear him talking and sharing his experience in such a fun interview. Way to go, boy 🤍 you're awesome 🤘🏻
He’s a greedy narcissist….😂
@@CinoXL jealous? ;D
@@CinoXL
Greedy people don’t bust their ass putting their all into a band to make it work, they siphon money out of it.
@@CinoXL sometimes confident ppl may seem narcissist but I see a genuine talent in Tobias. If I were him I would act the same fucking way 😘
@@CinoXL how do you figure?
Thank the Metal Gods for sending us Tobias Forge and the band 'Ghost' 🤘
✔️💯🏆🤘
Metal?
@@nicolasaguilargonzalez8583 You telling me they don't have Metal songs to at least include them partially into that category
who are the metal gods
Every time I hear Tobias speak, I find 2 thoughts running through my head - 1. He's a certified genius and 2. He's a truly gracious and professional guy despite the craziness surrounding the whole thing. Ghost is that one in a million where everyone wanted someone who loved all of this as much as we do and the supreme nerd turns out to be a damn prodigy and puts out more than just music to interact and amuse everyone, including himself! I love hearing him talk about the business end as much as I love watching him nerd out over 80's metal and punk. Granted, Ghost is and has been my favorite band for a decent number of years now, so I'm a bit biased, but bar none the best show I've ever been to. The interaction the band has with it's fans, the lore and the videos and all of the clergy stuff is so damn much fun! It's crazy and over the top and very nudge-nudge, wink-wink. He's one of the few hugely successful music acts that literally still cares about giving the fans a good show and connecting with them. Love Tobias so much! Also, keep the current touring lineup. They have the same love for the fans and it show and their social media is another extension of the band, despite them all being ghoouuuuls.
Johnny, I've liked your music, but this was my introduction to you, the man. Love it!
Agree on everything - especially the lineup!
Go ghouuuuuuuls 👻
man, the more I watch tobias interviews the more I learn with him. not only about his ideas and life, but communication as well. it’s gold to be able to speak so calmly and mannerly in a world where everyone is in a rush to say anything, anywhere. I’ve learned already after so many interviews how he behaves in a conversation. he’ll always listen attentively to you like what you’re saying matters and that conversation is important to him. and just like that he won’t interrupt you either. he’ll never answer right away. he’ll always make a pause to think about his next words. that’s why you’ll never see him vomiting meaningless words and saying whatever. he’s undoubtedly an inspiration to me. truly a type of person you have to dig to find.
That's just how most Nordic people are in general tbh. And I don't mean the "I've 47% Viking ancestry and am a direct descendant of Ragnar Lothbrok but I've never been to Scandinavia" people, it's a cultural thing across the North.
He pauses because English is not his native language, he has to translate in his head before speaking. We should all learn to do that.
Tobias is such an intellectually enriching and articulate guy and a consummate artist. I know he gets a bit of criticism for being so monopolistic and dictatorial in his vision for Ghost, but I understand why. He has such a specific and singular creative ambition for the band that it would probably be a form of artistic dilution to allow any form of compromise by having other creative inputs in the band. It is very similar with Trent Reznor in Nine inch nails and Dave Mustaine in Megadeth.
I have to say I am very sad that I do not remember the last couple of songs in both Ghost gigs that I attended last due to too many beers. I have seen Ghost multiple times now and they are a fantastic live proposition. Would recommend seeing them whenever you can, amazing experience.
I knew it! I knew Monty Python and Benny Hill influenced his comedy on stage. This makes me so happy!
Tobias seems like he'd be a very interesting person to just have a conversation with....not necessarily about music/ghost but just in general....Im actually very surprised to learn that he's 41 as I'll turn 41 in a few months...I also gotta say I have a very strong memory about my childhood as well and I just watched a great video last night about people with attention deficit disorder, which I struggle with daily....as I think many creative people do and anyhow the Dr was saying that the adhd brain is wired differently and that very often the long term memory is superior to atypical wired brains yet they, WE, can't recall dinner last night. I would have to believe these gentlemen have had similar issues or traits at the least. Great interview Johnny and Tobias. Would love to see an a7x/ghost tour.
Ghost and Avenged Sevenfold world Tour! Who’s with me?!?! 👻🦇😮💨
Yes! Agreed 🤘🏻
Yes please and add Calabrese with that
No way.
A7X is my favorite band of all time, and Ghost is definitely in my top 5. In other words, I would shit a chicken if that happened.
@@stephentyree9296 I’d pay to see that.
Ain’t nothin gonna keep me from a concert in general, especially Ghost. They’ve become a big part and influence on my life and will always take any opportunity to support them 💕
Ok, now I gotta find that Swedish comedian's books! I love Tobias for the humor he injects into aspects of Ghost. The music is great, the live shows are so much fun and absolutely entertaining, and the videos of Copia and former Papa's are pure gold for their humor!
Jan Stenmark is absolutely great. Dark humor at its best! Search for some pictures and google translate it. Not sure that every comic translate well though…
I went to see Ghost at that Birmingham gig. I won’t lie, I was anxious about going as it was my first since pre-covid, and I found it hard being amongst so many people. But I am so freaking glad that I went. It was a fantastic gig, and I was instantly at ease as soon as the band came out on stage. Can’t wait to see them again 💜
My thoughts as well. I saw them for the first time in February when they were touring in the US, and I was nervous about covid, but I'm so glad I went. I already missed my chance in 2019 and when I saw those tour dates, I said I'm not gonna let this pass me by again. I did what I had to do to keep me and others safe, and I enjoyed the show. Can't wait to see them again. 😄
Diddums
@@JaCkcape000 ok?
OMG how is this man so fucking adorable and insanely smart. He makes my guts melt.
😂 That is an amazing way to put it.
Same. 😍
🥰
I love these interviews with Tobias. I haven't heard anyone ask if he'd ever consider playing a guitar during the live shows. Would be cool to see Papa out there shredding on some of the songs.
Pretty sure if that was something he wanted to do, he would’ve done it by now.
I vaguely remember reading an article where Tobias said that he would love to play guitar for the band live, without also being the singer. The issue is he would have to find someone else to fill that role, and he's not sure if he would ever be able to find someone that would be a perfect fit in his eyes.
@@njovwevnjweV Interesting. In his previous bands, he played and sang. I don't see why he can't do both here. Would be cool.
I concur
@@njovwevnjweV He can play on the instrumental songs, like Miasma. Heck, he can even play and sing for that matter. He's done it before in his previous band.
Cool, don't talk over Toby next time.
I just love his interviews 😍 he's interesting and smart polite & hilarious. Such a talented man. I'm here for the duration 💗💗💗😈👻😈👻😈🎵🎵
I saw ghost live for the first time in Nottingham England back in 2019 and was blown away , came back for more this year in Manchester England and it was even better. Tobias forge is a genius
I am hypnotized when Tobias speak. I LOVE listening to him ❤️❤️ thank you
When he had a chance to speak
TRUE 🤣🤣
I just like this guy more and more every time I hear him talk! Such a cool guy!
Johnny take off your cap, we want to see THE MOHAWK!
Tobias you are the boss, I can't get Griftwood out of my head.
VIVA EL FARY
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Me estaba encantando tu comentario pero cuando he visto el viva el Fary ...💯💯💯💯💯🇪🇦🤘🤣🤣
@@Alicia66X JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ El Fary vive la lucha sigue 🇪🇸🤣🤣
The story of The Shaggs is even crazier than you yet know.
Their paternal grandmother was a palm reader and psychic, and she predicted that her granddaughters would form a band and became world famous rock stars. So their dad, her son, set out to make it happen. He pulled his daughters out of school and made them take music lessons, and then booked a recording studio when he decided they were good enough to record their debut album. Then he found a fly by night record label that would press 1000 copies of it, though he had to pay them to do it.
Well the label went out of business and the owner disappeared with the money and 900 Shaggs albums. And that was the last anyone heard of them until Frank Zappa got his hands on one of the few surviving copies of Philosophy of the World. He loved what he heard in a weird, outsider way, and the Shaggs took off from there.
Thank you for that
The Swedish film he's talking about is based on an Astrid Lindgren character (the author behind Pippi Long stockings if that is familiar). It's called "Emil i Lönneberga"
Thanks
No one could have said it better than Tobias, I just know that.
Absolutely love Tobias Forge interviews! Having grown up in the 80’s, I was lucky to experience heavy metal at its finest! 🤘🏼I’ve seen Twisted Sister, WASP, Accept and Iron Maiden! Awesome crazy times, stories and my most memorable moments! Ghost has brought back the excitement of live shows. Love their music and theatrics. ❤️👻
Ghost has brought back great music. Music that makes you feel good. 🤘💀👻
LOVED this interview! I love how much thought and insight Tobias puts into his answers, such an interesting and intelligent guy! I love Ghost and the fact that a guy as creative and clever and down-to-earth as Tobias is the mastermind behind it makes me love them even more.
The interview felt very natural as well, so many interviews feel so disjointed because the interviewer feels the need to stick to their script. You learn so much more from natural interviews like this! Really enjoyed it!
god dammit, let him finish his sentences :-)
Yeah, I had to stop watching after a couple of minutes. Believe it or not, some people want to hear the answer before the host goes on with the next question.
@@Azhalan feel you. don't get me wrong, johnny seems to be a great guy and also very interested, but many times in this interview he really seemed to rush things - and while doing that, cutting off TF...but yeah, all in all it was a great conversation to listen to, for sure!
I and many others can confirm that what you do, really means the world to us. You really don't know what kind of battle someone is going trough and I can confidentally say that tobias, your music and what you do saved me. Kiitos, tack ❤️
God damn. The interruptions of Tobias. Let him finish a thought.
Tobias Forge: "I am relatively musical." Lmao wtf
I was already a germaphobe before covid. I’ll always be here for Ghost 👻
@Thoth Phew! I’m so glad! Thanks, I’ll rest now, I was waiting for a TH-cam comment just like this to be reassured!
Tobias is a Genius 🤘🔥Great interview Johnny Skål from Norway🍺🍸🥂🤘🔥
Tobias is as egoless as they come as a frontman.
He's a gnostic so that figures
Hahaha Whatever that means 🙄
Wonder if that will change if they get a bit bigger though haha
Yessss 🔥🔥
How does this interviewer not know that the musicians that play on tour(the ghouls) are summoned from hell?
Saw Ghost in Oslo on Saturday Killer show Cheers from Norway Ghost and Avenged Rule🤘🔥
i was there too, it was awesome!! :D
Sweet. I still have my 2 favorite tracks "cirice" and "rats" are amazing from GHOST.
Nice work John Boyy! 😎
Maybe im bias cause i love Ghost a lot, but this was the coolest interview on Johnny's channel, that i've being following for a while now. Thank you for this channel, Johnny. Hope A7X releases the new stuff soon, and comes back to Brazil. Cheers
This was a wonderful conversation, I could have kept listening for hours! Thank you.
Going to see Ghost in September! Tobias seems very genuine and cool! Can't wait!😎
Same! Going to the Jersey show.
Lots of fun guys, you'll be blown away 🖤🤘
My all time favourite band interviewing my new favourite! I saw Ghost in Birmingham and they absolutely killed it 🙌🏻
I’m 100% seeing them next time they’re around!
i saw them in Brum too! Really fucking great show, that was my sixth time seeing them, if only i could meet him now! It will get harder to pull that off as they get bigger haha
I wish I could have a job interviewing all these legends!! Why can't I just catch a break! LoL Awesome show as always Bro. Stay blessed
lol you think Ghost is a legend.
@@nustde00 lol they are
Oh hell, this is gonna be a good one.
this was fantastic
Can't agree more🌹
I'm a big Ghost fan and have always respected Tobias Forge. But I though he would be this controlling and difficult guy, but he seems really chill and nice! Saw them preform in Stockholm, Sweden recently! Tobias is a genius!
que bronca me da que lo interrumpa tanto dios DEJALO HABLAR
You can tell Tobias can hold his liquor. He'd be fun to have drinks with and not a "everything sucks" type. Very good interview.
Love this shit we need more Tobias interviews! Impera was awesome! I had such a blast reviewing it on my podcast. Ghost for life!
Thank you so much for this, Johnny! It was amazing! Thank you for letting us witness this chat between two friends.
Much love from Argentina. Love A7X and Ghost ♥
I think Ghost is a very Magical band, would love to see them preform live🤓❣
I just imagine Kyle Williams' kid watching this at some point and losing their mind that their dad was friends with Tobias Forge.
Forge is god!!!
Thats quite Ironic! Truth though.
Love the 8 bit Ghost in the background haha
I’ve been a fan of ghost since download 2012 and the amount of work this guy has done over those years is incredible
Great interview John needed to stop cutting you off but anyway I live in Huntsville al and can't wait to see you all in September I get the chills every time I think about it. You all have my ❤ 💙 💜.
He keeps asking Tobias a question and in the middle of his sentence he interrupts him and jumps to another topic! LET THE MAN SPEAK!!
Calm down lmao. Americans are typically more hyper than Europeans. If Tobias was uncomfortable he wouldn’t have done it for an hour and 1/2
Ghost is definitely one of the greatest bands of the 2010s
I would argue Ghost is one of the greatest bands since the 90s
And in the TWENTIES. Into the THIRTIES.
@@danielchico2 wdym, they are since the 60s!
@@FDALl-ms5kg Unless we find out that there’s a Papa -I that headed Ghost back in the 50’s.
What a wonderful interview! Very interesting, thank you for sharing 🙂❤🔥
I think the next Ghost record should come with a miniature modern OK magazine special full of Ghost.
Their Records come with a booklet of amazing artwork.
Tobias is such a intelligent and funny guy . Just a normal person that has a Great Attitude and a Satanic Band 😂🤣😂🤣👿😈👿😈
Agreed
Nobody would ever know Tobias is from Sweden, because (and it's insane), I can't detect any accent. He might as well be from LA or Denver or Seattle. He's so awesome
He knows some words in English that even I don’t know myself!
He sounds very American but as a Swede I can hear that he's Swedish. I think most Swedes would hear that.
As a Brit I feel like a lot of non-native English speakers end up speaking with an American-ish accent.
So he has that but clearly sounds European.
His English is incredible! Britain is awful for learning other languages so I’m always so impressed when other Europeans speak such great English.
Tobias seems like a reasonable dude, I love A7X, ghost got me excited about rock again
There’s several good modern rock bands. Search for em
@@Celestial_Being666 I'm pretty current on my punk and hardcore, but it takes a lot for a hard rock or metal band to grab my attention is all.
I had eight tracks! Tobias brought good music back to me. I can't possibly list all of the bands that I idolized but Kiss was supreme along with Metallica but Ghost has a place that can't be topped. Thank you!!
!!!!!!! CAN JHONNY LET HIM FINISH HIS SENTENCES !!!!!!
Idk why but Johnny gives me keemstar vibes
Listening to Tobias talk about how Ghost operates, it's just completely non traditional in the "band" business, which is really cool. Its more of like, a touring musical with 4-5 different teams involved in the production of Ghost from writing to recording to live performance. Super cool. It's the Phantom of the Opera, eh?
Interestingly enough, a year after your comment mentioning Phantom of the Opera, they ended up covering Maiden’s Phantom of the Opera 🤘🏼
Dude you called it
I really enjoyed this episode. It was like listening to two friends talking, and that is so refreshind and different from another interviews. Tobias is a fckn genious, Ghost is one of the best things that happened to hard rock/metal
Thank god Tobias still delivers despite the interviewer. Johnny manages to miss all points and brings the interview to a screeching halt with every anecdote and interuption. I like how he tries to buddy up to Tobias but hasn't got the intelect or musical knowledge to keep up.
I agree, the interviewer kept interrupting and inserting his own opinion.
@@unknownentity9468yes he interviewing like a friend which he may be , but we want to hear Tobias talking without interruption from the interviewer .
Love this interview ❤️✨️ I like hearing something different than other interviews
Nothing like an interview where the talent is constantly interrupted
💯 pure Awesomeness, thanks for bringing it . 👍🤘
19:10 But that is exactly what A7X did. Canceled the whole european tour in Summer of 2022. Spot on, Tobias 😂
Another video of this kid talking over his guests. Cool.
This "kid" has grey hair.
A7X and Ghost are my 2 favorite bands. Saw them both together in 2013. Cool to see these guys chatting. Please tour together again.
Pretty good questions here and there. If only ”the interviewer” would have let the man finish a freakin’ sentence before rushing into the next one or worse, answering the question himself. Tobias started to sped up his answers because of this. Absolute shite.
He's not an interviewer 😂 and this wasn't an interview? You're watching the wrong content my friend. Doesn't seem like this show is for you. Also it kinda seemed obvious to me that the interruptions where down to connection delays.
@@mrtruth5192 Well I guess itsnot for me either as I thought the interviewer was a little to full of himself and likes the sound of his own voice.
Only watched because of Tobias , at least now I know not to watch any more of this guys channel.
@@droptuned83 you don’t know the guy that’s why you say that.
Can JC please Stop cutting him Off and let him Finish a sentence.
Me encanta escuchar hablar a Tobias, podría escucharlo hablar por horas ✨💖
Great interview! Thank you for sharing. I saw Ghost in Brussels it was the 5th time for me. It was an amazing show! Tobias is really a Genius and deserves all this succes ! Sure he will continue to impress us for a long time, no doubt about it.
I've been a big fan of Ghost since their first record. Its awesome to see a great in depth interview with him about the band and everything in between. Thanks Johnny!
I saw ghost In Birmingham it was amazing Great atmosphere also it was the first place I saw avenged sevenfold live hope you come back
This interview so reminds me of my neurodivergent friends and i infodumping on eachother. I absolutely love it. Tobias is an absolute genius. Ive always loved him, hes so kind and caring and smart. I love where his music style and movie/theater style comes from. I so can very much relate, being a theater kid myself who has such a wild music taste. Seeing all the inspirations is exactly why i fell in love with Ghost in the first place. The way he makes it his own, is absolutely beautiful. And yes. I do absolutely see Phantom of the Opera in Ghost, another of his inspos. Which also probably drew me to him. Plus. Who else doesnt love a man who gets emotional when he plays ToTo- Africa 😭 protect Tobias at all costs.
the show in Manchester was great, Ghost is one of those bands that I just started listening to this year and now I'm a new fan, I'm happy that I found them!
This is more of a Johnny interview and not Tobias 😒
Awesome Jhonny!
What a nice way to listen and keep the conversation intersting and fluent. Apart from that, Tobias is one on the current head of metal.
Hope to see you toghether more soon than far
Very tired of people complaining they can't make fun of minorities anymore without being criticized. You can be funny without kicking a person while they're already down. Believe me, it's entirely possible.
My friends granddad drank his coffee like that. We’re hillbillies from Eastern Kentucky. Lol.
Yesssss
Thank you, JC! Much love to both of you guys and the bands. ❤️❤️❤️
From, a huge Ghost and A7x fan.
The little plate is a saucer. 😂 (I could have sworn that I typed plate… wtf)
Kept watching this for Tobias, but Johnny, he's the topic of the podcast if he's the guest. Let the man speak. This felt like a reverse case of the infamous Neil deGrasse Tyson episode of the JRE. Unpleasant.
Just saw Ghost tonight in San Diego... wow the show is getting better and better. Saw them in Anaheim earlier this year, but the sound mix there was way off for some reason. Anaheim venue was much larger and my seats sucked as well, but Pechanga Arena was small enough to put the crowd a reasonable distance from the stage. The pyrotechnics were awesome and a serious step up - 2 rounds of confetti cannons, flame pillars, explosions, and spark showers. Cool that there's such a good mix of new and old songs, too.
The show in Oslo was just perfect one of the best shows I've seen 👋🔥🔥
Him doing a brummy accent killed me
The 8bit track underlying the audio at around 40:00 makes me smile.
Great show, glad I found it. Just subscribed, can't wait to hear more, Johnny.
Thank you 🍻🤙
I knew Tobias would be on at one point or another!! Yesss!!!
so fascinating, love hearing from tf always -- such a great musician and interesting person
Johnny was having a few drinks. Tobias is structured and thoughtful. That was the fan trying excitedly to get through an interview with someone who is also a friend.