Mysterious Zambia Murder and Unexplained "Crawdads" Book Success | Mark & Delia Owens Case Analysis
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Mark and Delia Owens?
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I had no idea what the book was about but noticed recently influencers on Instagram recommending it. Thank you for the summary of this couple and your thoughts and opinions on the book. Very interesting.
So glad Dr Grande is now injecting more of his unique and very entertaining humor into his videos. The format of true crime, a generally complete set of the most important facts, and a psychological analysis is one of a kind and provides a fascinating resource. Great job!
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This reminds me of Anne Perry who is a very popular author. She was convicted of helping murder her Friend’s mother.
Anne and the lesbian girlfriend now live somewhat near each other in Canada. Very weird.
Yes, I've read many of her books.
They were teenagers at the time of the murder. It was a horrible crime. But I do think that Anne Perry’s life since her release from prison does argue in favor of trying children as juveniles. Imprisonment is intended both as punishment and as needed to protect the public. Anne Perry has not posed a danger to the public as an adult.
I think it's partly your voice that keeps me coming back for your videos. So calm and soothing.
The real crime here is making that hyena feel guilty. They receive such negative press in general, a guilt-trip is the last thing he or she needed.
I'm from Zambia 🇿🇲, love your videos and analyses.
I agree with you most of the time Dr. Grande but I can't agree with you on why the book is so popular. I don't think many of the book's readers know anything about Delias' past. The book is successful because it tells a compelling fantasy story of a young girl abandoned in the woods and how she coped. It doesn't hurt that there is a murder mystery entwined in the plot.
I found the book so implausible to the point of absurd.
@@a.jlondon9039 In the south? It's about average.
I thought it was great reading, that's why it was so popular. The bit in the end just made me like it more. I can assure you, EVERY woman has had some kind of experience with sexual assault or harassment, and felt like taking the guy out because no one pays attention. Ask any woman and they will tell you they cheered at the end of the book.
@@Hollylivengood I can agree with you that way too many women have had experiences with sexual assault/harassment but the idea that every women ever in history has experienced it is kind of absurd.
@@ellis7622 Exactly, it IS absurd. God save us from wokeness...
The hyena and the elephant author really cracked me up. I agree with you about the book. I kept wondering why there were never any snakes in the wilds. No very realistic. Ladies' book clubs love it.
I loved their 2 memoirs and read them before going on safari in SA. I did not read the novel as I don’t read fictional books anymore but had not heard about this crime nor the tv news story. Fascinating video as always.
I actually really enjoyed this book and especially the visual imagery contained within . I felt I could really “see” where she lived and her surroundings. Can’t wait to catch the movie. Didn’t know any of this stuff about the author and her husband. Interesting 🤨
Same here.
Thank you for covering this! my book club read 'where the crawdads sing' and I really did not like it and didn't even finish it (aside from me being Cajun...it's 'crawfish', damn it!). The thing is, I did not make the connection until now that she ALSO wrote Cry of the Kalahari! A book I read as a tween in the 80's. It had a big influence on my decision to become a field biologist, so thank you for the extra insight!
I thought the book started out well, but about half way through it got really odd, and I didn't care for the ending.
How do you like your job? What the jobs involved in every day work?
I always called them crawdads when I was a kid.
I think "crawdad" is a matter of reference. As you said, you're Cajun. So you're probably from Louisanna, the Mississippi Delta, or Texas. I've heard of mudbugs, crayfish, crawfish, and crawdads.
I'm from Louisiana and have only called them crawfish, but the book isn't set in Cajun country, but in NC marshes. There's no telling what diction they use in that local area. You can't police language.
Considering how much you love New Jersey, I just know that you'll make a video about Louis Santiago, the Newark Cop who hit and killed a pedestrian while driving drunk and then put the body in the trunk and took it home to his mother so she could help him dispose of it.
😳😳 Oh, hell no! 🤬
“Maybe it was the hyena who grabbed the film from the tent” 🤣👏
I vaguely remember this couple from the TV story. They struck me as ultra anti-social. The antithesis of charming. A very hardened pair. I think, that they didn't just hate poachers, they seemed to hate everyone as in all Humans.
Its difficult ....... I knew a guy who was made to undress in the wilderness he was a poacher. He was left to walk 200 miles. he survived and Frankly it was good for him.
Well this is partially due to the evil poachers. No wonder you start hating humanity when most humans around you engage in the murder of innocent animals...
@@omron9498 I got that idea too back, when I saw the program, but looking back, I also think, that they chose a place to go which was away from Humans, not just because it might be unspoiled & have animals unspoiled by Human contact, but so they could avoid Humans themselves.
Me too and thinking about the whole situation was a good intentions gone overboard and in the end harmed the cause. 😒
@@ernestmacmurray1716 That was a movie with Cornel Wilde.
As always thank you for the summarizing analytic.
My take, an escape from civilization gives cause to return to civilization, where the couple has to defend their uncivilized behavior.
As usual, excellent commentary. I would just add, that in the book, the murder of the “predatory “ young man is justified and the marsh girl is not convicted, going on to live a good life. Does this parallel the murder in Zambia? Is Ms. Owens saying it is ok to kill someone if your motives are pure?
Dr.Grande, you are a fantastic storyteller and you have a great future in true crime analysis. We just need someone to analyze why human beings are so reluctant to face the truth when potentially, the truth can and likely will set them FREE.
If the dingo ate my baby I guess it makes sense that a hyena stole my documentary film. 😂
Loving that!!!
Lovely analysis once again, Dr Grande!
What are your thoughts on the journey of Naomi Judd ultimately culminating in her suicide.
Naomi Judd? The country singer?🎶
This sounds macabre. Why would you word it in such a flippant way?
And yes, of course the country singer.
Oh no, I loved the book 😱 Thank you for the background!
Ahh the old “Hyena ate my homework” excuse.
It seems to be the case that in Africa, deceit is basically always the first recourse.
Good Afternoon Dr. Grande.
Dr. Grande would you please give your analysis of the honeymoon killers, Martha Beck and Ray Fernandez...thanks for all you do..I enjoy your videos very much and I learn alot when I listen to them..😊
Loving this!
And yey! Its finally raining in the UK! Possibly a storm coming...
Not in London
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Thank you from an LCSW, I always appreciate your analysis 💞
I couldn’t get through book either, but my Mom loved it.
Love the sarcastic wit in regards to the Hyena remark.😆🤣
Today’s shirt is fantastic!
I had no idea.., and I loved the book. Started reading it again last night. I agree that there are parts that were underdeveloped, but the story itself was entertaining and interesting.
I think the reason this book has sold so many copies is that it’s a good book.
I’ve discussed Crawdads with several friends, and no one has mentioned this obscure bit of info.
I hope the movie is magnificent! 🦋
Goes to someone else's country, kills them for allegedly poaching animals, goes to another country, poaches innocent dogs.
Awesome video and excellent analysis of the "murders" of poachers. For all anyone knows, it could've been a staged act.
Except the cameraman has named the shooter.
@@maud2739 it doesn't really matter because it's so after the fact who knows if it was an act or not if it was so important why didn't they name the shooter in the beginning? Sounds like a bunch of BS to me
@@EarlSmith2469 If you read “The Hunted” in the New Yorker, you will understand the situation better.
@@maud2739 even then, who's to say? Dr. Grande makes interesting points on the matter. I will check out the New Yorker article.
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Hello Kristy
How are you doing today ?
Delia now lives in the mountains of North Carolina.
I agree with your assessment of the book.
If you can't handle sarcasm, don't stand where Dr. Grande can find you. Excellent.
Great reporting-thanks!
'Deception valley' doesn't sound like an appealing place you wan't to choose out of many options.
Good morning Dr. Grande, thank you for the elegant shirt...now coffee, and what may be happening in a situation LIKE this.
I’m here for all the dig’s.
Thank you, this was very interesting. I have seen the book, I didn’t know the background. Obsession is often not successful, you have to communicate with people with opinions.
There are all kinds of reasons why people do not report crimes immediately.
I'm really digging the shirt doc!
The highway to hell is paved with good intentions.
Awesome shirt, Doctor!
Terrific delivery as usual!
Your dry delivery is very effective with your witty comments. The hyena observations are hilarious! Is it my imagination or have you increased the humor in your video segments? Highly entertaining and highly informative!!
While I don't excuse their behaviour in any way, I can add a few insights from working in conservation... firstly, it can be be extremely dangerous if you are working against poachers. When you are in the middle of the bush a thousand miles from any help or police, these people have no qualms in taking out their competition or witnesses. Even today, with govt funded national parks, rangers from the local tribes & all our technology there are _still_ rangers shot & killed every year... and this couple was working in the 1970/80's. So I can understand the frustration & fear & anger that starts to set in, and why they leaned into the military-style training.
This couple were also some of the first to incentivise the locals to protect their own wildlife, to make protection of their natural assets more lucrative than allowing poaching... but it wasn't a common practice back then. When you're constantly dealing with landowners & govt officials who don't care about conservation it can be really easy to slip into a morally superior attitude where you know best. _Especially_ when you're spending extended periods of time away from cities & people who can hold your behaviour to account.
I don't doubt that this couple went too far in their methods & it's appalling if they did kill someone. But it's really important to assess this story in the context of the time & situation they were in & not assume it's comparable to today.
Thank you for your take! I've been really curious about the 2 sides of this story. A friend is a big fan of the book and the movie. Then I came across some news or someone else's commentary about the writer having murdered someone and gotten away with it. Your comment on here brings to light and clarifies all that. I guess one can still enjoy a book/story even if the writer of said book is controversial. Life isn't black and white.
Awesome content as usual! Would love for your podcast to cover the Netflix doc Abducted In Plain Sight as well as the case that it involves.
Hello Christine
How are you doing today ?
Loving the sarcasm today…laying it on pretty thick!!!! 😂😂
The book should be made into a musical and retitled "Call Me Bwana - Or Else" or "To Frame a Hyena."
9:02
Positively epic.
Oh Please please please analyze the case of Andrea McCray!!!!!
In 1974 it was not unusual to hear of young people going off to improve the world. Up and down the west coast, mountain areas and even different countries. I usually enjoy your stories and evaluations but feel you missed the mark on this one.
Being married (43 yrs) to a bipolar person I felt the man in this saga may have had some mental health issues. I am not diagnosing just observing.
I enjoyed the book. It is fiction
Can you do William Calley and the My Lai slaughter?
Very interesting! Love the analysis. I didn’t read the book but saw the movie and didn’t care for it much. I actually was moved to rate it two stars on rotten tomatoes and wrote a bad review (which I think I’ve done like twice). I was moved to do it because there were SO many positive reviews and I thought I might add another perspective. Too many things that would not have happened, in my opinion, and I found the ending ridiculous. I’m in the minority, though! Gave it the extra star because of the setting and filmography.
How do I find your review?
@@karmasutra4774 No idea!
Hello Dr Grande!
Would you produce and air a program about the murder of Julie Ward, a young British amateur photographer in Kenya around 1990. Thanks, Phillip Jones
1:43
"Perhaps they saw
something like the
plot to the lion king
unfold in front of them."
Now that's
some funny shyt
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Could you cover the Ice box killer Dr. Grande. I've heard one take on it but would really love your analysis on it. Also another good video 📹 👍🏾
I KNEW IT! Hyena would be at the end :-D
I started reading the book but thought it was tripe and returned it.
Hello Dr. Grande 🌟
I like this vid. Good insight and great anaylsis on the case and I really liked the conclusion on the book.
Maybe the hyena’s name was Christopher. Blame the hyenas!!
The couple's hearts were in the right place. They did make an impact on Elephant poaching and conservation . One poacher's death, shouldn't be the end all to Wildlife conservation, and the laws . FACTS: It's true in many African countries, the government has allowed the killing of Poachers. Africa's human population is increasing (Almost one Billion and growing ) while the Wildlife, "especially Rhino and Elephants are decreasing !!!". I admire these two concerned Citizens of the World for the efforts in Wildlife conservation !!!.
Can you cover the Hoffman Institute? Is it a legitimate recourse for achieving mental health goals? Or is the $5K+ price tag better spent on traditional therapy.
In 2002, a modern art critic was shown some paintings without knowing the artist's name. He noted that the landscapes and buildings were painted in much detail, while human figures had very little color or texture, suggesting that the artist was profoundly disinterested in other human beings.
The critic was then informed that the paintings he had reviewed were made by Adolf Hitler.
Why, oh why, does that remind me of "Where the Crawdads Sing"?
Shirt game is on!
Grande you should wear a shirt with a brick pattern on it. That would be awesome.
Yeah i wouldn't care if there was video of him killing a poacher released everyday of the week for the next 10 years. I have no sympathy for poachers, they don't deserve to live, they don't deserve justice. If you kill a poacher i would even call you a great person..
Josh, I am with you 100%!
I totally agree with your opinion and description of the book. I was not a fan. I think that the online book clubs have a huge influence on which books become popular, as well as some celebrities, such as Reese Witherspoon and Oprah Winfrey. Their followers are very loyal and seem to rush to buy (and like) whatever book is deemed worthy. It's pretty amazing actually!
Mark's explanations of most of his actions are not credible. I abhor poaching but excusing questionable behavior under the guise of "protection" and "good works" makes many of the couple's claims spurious. Good analysis.
I read the book and enjoyed it The book is not great literature, but it is a good read and a good story. I would describe it as a "pastime" book
I don't get why killing that guy was such a controversy that absolutely would not go away. I don't think killing poachers is wrong. Killing people to save innocent people is fine, and animals are living things that can feel pain, so why is killing people who are going to butcher animals not okay? It's okay if people tried to do that to livestock, but why if the animals are instead in a sanctuary or endangered, it's suddenly different?
I love the book.
As someone who has a pilots licence, I'm imagining flying a single engine plane over literal tiger country.
Tigers don't live in Africa.
I saw an episode of "I shouldn't be alive" where a small plane crashed out in the middle of nowhere in Africa and being stranded ended up being worse than the actual plane crash. I can't imagine flying over there and putting myself in a situation where I was being shot at.
She probably would have done better if she had written about her true life (sounds exotic with many turns) and help of a ghost writer? As for me, you just saved me a couple days of reading, thanks.
This was absolutely hilarious.
The hyaenas certainly thought so.
@@eadweard. and that last elephant in the room.
The irony is: we have people here in this "woke" political/cultural climate who think it is just fine to kill poachers.
We read the book with my book club fairly enjoyed it and then we went to see the movie I thought it went well I have no criticism I'm so glad that Delia was able to make the money that she's made in the book and the movie good on her
I think this is my favorite shirt you wear!!
How entitled do you have to be to go to someone else's country and behave the way they did? This man wanted to kill regardless and used his agenda as a front.
Incredibly entitled.
I was so stoked when I saw this pop up on TH-cam. I had been wanting to know your thoughts on this case. Wonderful analysis. I find their behavior and attitudes disturbing. Wonder if woke Hollywood who fully embraced Black Lives Matter will nominate this movie for any awards. Their hypocrisy is often so blatant, I wouldn’t be surprised
Bonjour Docteur! What an elaborate exellent analysis of a such a strange case , weird couple. The title of the book sounds familiar but i have not read it And yes, the shooting and investigating hyenas 🤣🤣🤣😹 Bravo and merci Docteur!!👍👏👏
I liked the book, even though the development of the main character was unrealistic. I have serious doubts that an abandoned 5 year old would survive, let alone grow up to be a functional adult.
I think there is a film, based on the book, in production.
The well trained ear can enjoy that tiniest perfect pinch of stank he puts on @10:46. Brutal. ❤️
As soon as somebody recommends the book on the web, it starts selling. So this will be the reason why it is selling so good now and not right after it was published.
I always thought hyenas were more into print media. ;) lol
They get the newspapers but only read the funnies.
I wish there was no poaching also and the people who are poachers should be locked up and tortured endlessly.
Are they guilty?
Yes, beyond a reasonable doubt, and in reality.
Should anybody really care? Nah.
They are both extremely courageous people: the governments were not willing to protect the animals from poachers, so this gutsy couple did it. They took a huge risk. They hate cowards who run away from facts (most of the general public today is like that), hence the vibes they give you aren't that warm. But at the end of the day, they're good people.
You don't get to murder a person to protect an animal
"DONT SHOOT THESE ANIMALS!!!"
Also: shoots dogs
A friend of mine loaned me what I have come to call "That Crawdad Book." I simultaneously liked and loathed it. The writing contained far too much boomer sentimentality, yet I read it to the end. I will never read it again. I'm ashamed that I sortof enjoyed it.
Surprised that, *that* book was connected to this woman. She wrote fiction? Now with this movie release - perhaps, the earlier "mysterious Zambia murder" was dramatization too?
hello
love the show which i need analyse...
im 51 , british , white i have never killed anyone or had that urge. Am i mad?