*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Countdown 00:17 - Introduction: Format of the Stream 02:07 - Br. Zakir Hussain joins 04:36 - *Sheldon (Christian) joins* 04:56 - Arguments for the Divinity of Jesus pbuh 06:28 - Refutation of arguments for Jesus' divinity 09:08 - Jesus pbuh not being the Son of Man 15:52 - Meaning/Context of the Son of Man 17:09 - Refuting Jesus being the Son of Man claim 25:17 - Debunking the claims of Jesus being God 42:45 - *Isa Ibn Yahya joins* & shares his beliefs 44:00 - Scrutinizing & Debunking Yahya's beliefs 1:03:05 - *Tian (Agnostic) joins* 1:03:15 - Finding the Right Religion 1:06:16 - Analysis of the Origin of the Universe 1:15:31 - Nature of the Necessary Existence 1:20:19 - Origin of the Universe: Chance vs Will 1:26:11 - Design necessitates Intelligence 1:31:08 - Analysing the Nature of God 1:33:23 - Testing the claim of Muhammad ﷺ 1:39:47 - Dawah to Tian: Islam vs other religions 1:48:13 - Evidences for the Truth of Islam 1:51:11 - Advice to Titan 1:52:34 - Review of the Discussion with Tian 1:54:36 - *Dayas joins:* Being Interested in Islam 1:56:54 - Evidence for the Existence of God 2:05:45 - Dawah to Dayas 2:17:21 - *Br. Dayas takes his Shahadah* 😍 2:18:09 - Welcoming Br. Dayas as a New Muslim 2:18:55 - Advice to Br. Dayas as a New Muslim 2:22:33 - Daffa (Muslim) joins 2:23:40 - *Rob joins:* Brides in Islam 2:25:40 - No Guests in the Backchat 2:26:22 - Sheldon joins again 2:26:37 - Issues with the Crucifixion of Jesus 2:32:35 - Review of the Stream 2:33:58 - *Andrew (Revert) joins* 2:36:18 - Updates & Gladiators leave 2:38:12 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙 Marvellous Stream 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
That Isa guy was definitely fed his deviant beliefs by his father and after his passing he feels like he has to carry and push these beliefs forward. He’s definitely lost, Inshallah he comes to the straight path.
This video is for me #1. Tian bit is an instant classic. gave my iimaan a jolt of assurance. Maashallaah, Hamza you are def blessed, all the brothers on here are blessed with knowledge and common sense.
Allahu Akbar! Alhamdulilah, one more brother for the sake of Allah! Welcome to Islam Dayas Panditas! Great stream! All the Muslims, go and 👍the stream. Let's go, it is the least you can do to support these brothers who are doing amazing work!
Oh my goodness, the amount of hoops these non-muslims go through to try and reconcile their beliefs is incredible. Allahumdillah I am muslim, it is so simple, there is only 1 God, Allah swt and the final messenger is Mohammed (pbuh). Sweet and simple. Allahumdillah
Steve, in the same way there is not a single Christian who knows their Scriptures, their is not a Single Muslim in this comment section able to debate a True Christian.
Its funny how in the book of numbers it literally says God is not the son of man, also Jesus mentions about another son of man to come after him and they will reject him the way they reject Jesus, also there is mandinians in iraq who believe John the baptist is the last prophet and have their own book about him so not sure what isa is talking about, also as of 2023 we have 100% of the manuscripts dating the 1st century of Islam
youtubeaccount32...where does Jesus says "Another Son of Man is coming after him?" In Numbers Yahweh does not say "I am not a son of man" It would be beneficial if you included references with your statements. But in numbers Yahweh says He does not lie, like man lies. The premise is Yahweh does not Lie.
@@travisdempster4693literally says nor im the son of man that i should lie, like use your brain why would it says son of man for a reason? To distinguish it from an angel or God
1:25:35 There is no such thing as true randomness; what we call "random" often results from unexplained or unknown variables. The only one who knows every single configuration of the variables is the one who set them-the Creator.
Masha'Allah Tabarak'Allah brother Zeeshan @smile2jannah I was PRAYING that someone would explain the basic criterias to Tian so he doesn't waste his life looking at 4000 religions and you DID IT MATE. May Allah guide the sincere. Ameen
the term Christian has lost all meaning at this point they all claim to have had some spiritual experience that's given them free license to reinterpret their book however they see fit
السلام علیکم و رحمتہ اللہ و برکاتہ. MASHALLH I learned so much in so little time and understanding of Deen of Syedna Muhammad Mustafa Peace be upon him Islam. I try to remember everything as explained about Islam Allah Subhana O Taallh give me the strength to do as you brothers did. Thank you very much see you in H. D. P. Speaker corner. Inshallh Tallah
The Rob thing was definitely a recording. I've been binging these arenas, and I heard Rob say the exact same thing about “you assume them to be a virgin” in the exact same tone of voice in a previous video.
For the love of PETE, go fix that bloody thing!!!! I can't continue listening I would have already ripped it off the wall ya lazy F%ck whoever it is I don't care even Darren but HE WOULD NOT let it keep doing it either I would imagine.
4:57 Jesus divinity arguments: - 6:28 Refuting the claims - 8:37 Was Jesus given authority? How could he be given something he already had? 9:08 Jesus not being the son of man - 9:12, 9:46, What makes you think the son of man is Jesus? 12:21 Daniel 7 does not prove Jesus is God, the son of man is not god 13:55 Even biblical scholars say he did not make the claim of divinity/the son of man 15:15 Matthew 24, Jesus referring to someone else 18:30 Luke 9: 26, Jesus referring to someone else 20:04 Concluded: Daniel 7 and the Son of man does not prove Jesus is God Debunking the claims of Jesus being God: John 1:1 26:07 Do you believe the word is the son? 26:58 , 27:21 Jesus is with God, so who is God? 30:28 John 1:14 he is using, butchering the gospel of John. Its not saying what he thinks it says. 31:52 33:52 Jessus being the word becoming incarnate, not the correct meaning, butchering of texts 43:38 Quran was changed as well as bible claim 1:06:16 Agnostic 1:08:38 Came from nothing claim 1:09:18 Universe created itself claim 1:10:10, 1:12:29 Infinite regress 1:15:10 About the necessary existence 1:20:00 Must have a will 1:26:15 Evidence of Gods existence 1:32:17 1:33:12 Only messenger for all of mankind 1:40:40 Criteria of Gods revelation 1:53:30 1:57:00 Evidence of Gods existence - S2J 2:04:50 - Hamza
In the Gospel of Jesus the only reference to "The Son of Man" is Jesus. Jesus=THE SON OF MAN. It is a Title of Divinity. Not "a" son of man. As we are all "a son of a man" But THE Son of man" which is a Title. Just as we can say "I think therefore I am" is a philosophical statement. Bur saying "I AM" is a Title reserved for the Divine God.
@jundean5292 Context matters, and who is being addressed. Saying "son of man" is different then "like a son of man" "Like" is synonymous with "similar" "appearing as" it demonstrates a distinction between "a son of man" and the individual. For Example "Jumping Like a Cat" Or one like an alley cat" Verse the TITLE "THE Son of Man" Thee Son of man is a Divine Title. Verses "like a son of man" which is a visual reference. Verses "Son of man fetch me some water" While Daniel is a Son of Man. Thee Son of Man is a Divine Title. Specifically with the understanding Daniel gives that "THE Son of Man" will have the glory of God, he will be SOVEREIGN, and will be Worshipped and Honored JUST AS the Father is Worshipped.
No biblical scholar says Jesus did not state he is the Son of man. He even Quotes the words in Daniel so honest believers are not confused or mistaken. He says "coming with the clouds" This is a specific reference. There can be no confusion.
@@travisdempster4693where did you get he will be worshipped just like the Father? As mentioned in this stream by the speaker that the angel identifies the son of man as the saints of the most high
It drives me absolutely insane how these people make claims and then act clueless about their claims once asked to explain said claims!! They're like real life bots... Does my head in!!
“At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:25-30
Subhan Allah I've just looked at the "sacred treasury" website. Absolutely no explanation of the beliefs, just a supposed "scripture from Allah". Nothing said about who it was revealed to and when so unless you've watched this and seen Isa on this live, you'd be totally clueless as to where it came from and have no reason to accept it's validity, not that Isa gave any reason to accept it either. Mind blowing random ramblings mixing bible and Qur'an together more like 🤯
This lost Issa said that one of the instances of the likeness between John the Baptist and Moses 50:50 is that John has many brothers and sisters, while everyone know that God Almighty told us already the story of Zachariah and how he got miraculously the only son John the Baptist. Sorry Issa ur marinade is false, weak and full of contradictions... Pity to come to such level 😔
He keeps saying “simple as that man” bro there is nothing “simple” about your beliefs what so ever. Jesus is God and the son of God at the same time “simple as that man” Astaqfurlah
The story about abu lahab and his wife both was intellectual as they lead groups and governed on a small level. So why didn't 2 people who hated Islam knew the revelation of them entering hell why just not take shahdah and shatter islam.
95:00 it says in surah kahf the Qur'an cannot be changed.... translation...27 And recite that which hath been revealed unto thee of the Scripture of thy Lord. There is none who can change His words, and thou wilt find no refuge beside Him... So he is wrong to even believe that the Qur'an has been changed...let alone his mental illness regarding his father...
I love The Arena and will always watch it but ive noticed that the live viewers as gone down and the quality of guests get worse and worse. I remember when there was 2-3k viewers and the guests were good. Im not sure what the reason for this is. Maybe none mulims are just scared to come on now.
😂 that has to be the most Clearest Analogy of an Independent being that doesn't depend on nothing The Painter and Canvas 1:22:29 ... Allah grant you a high place in jannah Zeeshan ...Atheism has to be the dumbest thing to ever exist ngl
@@travisdempster4693where is the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him that you claim to know? It's not the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John as they weren't written until after Jesus peace be upon him had died? Logically therefore they can't be what Jesus peace be upon him was teaching 🤔
@@travisdempster4693where is the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him that you claim to know? It's not the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John as they weren't written until after Jesus peace be upon him had "died" (been taken up alive as we Muslims believe)? Logically therefore they can't be what Jesus peace be upon him was teaching 🤔
In the Bible it says they all forsook him ❤ He messiah himself who never spoke English latin or Greek he spoke his language mother Mary was chosen of a wild woman above all ladies above all nations as the most devout worshipper in the manotheistic belief in lifestyle no swine and no wine She covered herself from head to toe and loose clothing and covered her hair they were living a lifestyle that was Kosher kosher kosher kosher following the guidelines are ordained by the Lord almighty allah when he called panda Lord almighty he would say allah AA and a law H00 and just like the Christian arabs call upon the Lord almighty allah😊😅
Hamza brother, please have patience. Tian talks the way he does because he does. He was very respectable and very easy to understand and did not juno around. Don't understand why you don't have a bit of patience.
I do not have the Bible memorized that well, and, yet, the hacker group Anonymous calls ME "the Reverend". ... .. .. so what does THAT tell you son? Zakir? What exactly are your proving?
My best, personal, interpretation of the "son of man" verse just means he came from a man. ... Meaning he was born from a man? OR MAYBE a Woman!!!! He could have meant "man" in a very general sense?
In the Bible it clearly stakes that Was speaking to a man and the man told him you have claimed divinity and he told him such evil utterances such a blasphemous statement that you have uttered I have never claimed divinity and in the second coming and on the day of judgment that he's gonna tell them and they come to him saying these phrases Lord lord did we not do good did we not prophesize in your name Floyd Lord did we not Cast down demons in your name and he will tell them FOR SAK away with you you evil doers I never knew you I never ever told you to worship me nor my mother I said worship my Lord and your Lord the Lord almighty the creator of the heavens and the Earth and all the worlds all the world psalms called the prophecy of the messiah where it claims that he was never harmed in any shape or form No resurrection no crucifixion no assention it was just fiction and in the book of Isaiah it clearly states that the archangel Gabriel took him app and he was taken app into the heavens peace and blessings be upon them all and he was never harmed in any shape or form no crucifixion no assention no resurrectere's it 😂😂
All praises to the Creator it was crucifixion cuz it never happened they never read p nobody has it really read the Bible pp The prophecy of the Messiah in the book of Psalms in the book of Psalms ppp it in the book of Psalms it tells you girls in the book of Psalms that tells you in The prophecy of the Messiah that he will never be harmed he will never be hurt he will never be shamed he won't even be bruised so there's no question of any such game in the book of Isaiah clearly tells you that he was taken up by the archangel Gabriel peace and blessings be upon them both and he was never harmed in any shape p and he'll be coming in the second coming to testify against the nonsense of all of this insanity and then you will all know the
Decoding Zionism through the old testament/Torah was amazing. I have a depth of knowledge about the political side but listening to the Brothers parse😮 the changes that have been made to accommodate a political ideology was an eye opener. My argument with the ‘Allah gave this land to us’ crowd has been ‘True, with conditions. Allah rejected Israel twice. Once He destroyed your temple and enslaved you. You were forgiven, yet your arrogance could not be humbled. You killed your prophets again. You assumed Allah was for you alone. Allah razed your temple a second time. Not one stone was left upon another, its location obscured and not locatable. Allah scattered you to the four corners of the earth. And you have not been given permission to return as a state, but your arrogance knows no bounds and you follow God hating atheists who have convinced you that you can force God’s hand.’ I never really understood how they converted Allah into a tribal God until listening to the scholarship presented in your stream. Subhanallah! Eagerly awaiting the next (fire alarm beeb notwithstanding🤣)
I just had a scan through the sacred treasury and all it is, is that verses from quran and bible are copied in different chapters. This reminds me of another sect of Muslims like the qadyanis. Another false prophet, i know he is your father brother yahya but please for the sake of Allah and your own akhira come back to the true quran and sunnah and follow Muhammad (saw). He is the true and final prophet therfore following him is to obey Allah
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Countdown
00:17 - Introduction: Format of the Stream
02:07 - Br. Zakir Hussain joins
04:36 - *Sheldon (Christian) joins*
04:56 - Arguments for the Divinity of Jesus pbuh
06:28 - Refutation of arguments for Jesus' divinity
09:08 - Jesus pbuh not being the Son of Man
15:52 - Meaning/Context of the Son of Man
17:09 - Refuting Jesus being the Son of Man claim
25:17 - Debunking the claims of Jesus being God
42:45 - *Isa Ibn Yahya joins* & shares his beliefs
44:00 - Scrutinizing & Debunking Yahya's beliefs
1:03:05 - *Tian (Agnostic) joins*
1:03:15 - Finding the Right Religion
1:06:16 - Analysis of the Origin of the Universe
1:15:31 - Nature of the Necessary Existence
1:20:19 - Origin of the Universe: Chance vs Will
1:26:11 - Design necessitates Intelligence
1:31:08 - Analysing the Nature of God
1:33:23 - Testing the claim of Muhammad ﷺ
1:39:47 - Dawah to Tian: Islam vs other religions
1:48:13 - Evidences for the Truth of Islam
1:51:11 - Advice to Titan
1:52:34 - Review of the Discussion with Tian
1:54:36 - *Dayas joins:* Being Interested in Islam
1:56:54 - Evidence for the Existence of God
2:05:45 - Dawah to Dayas
2:17:21 - *Br. Dayas takes his Shahadah* 😍
2:18:09 - Welcoming Br. Dayas as a New Muslim
2:18:55 - Advice to Br. Dayas as a New Muslim
2:22:33 - Daffa (Muslim) joins
2:23:40 - *Rob joins:* Brides in Islam
2:25:40 - No Guests in the Backchat
2:26:22 - Sheldon joins again
2:26:37 - Issues with the Crucifixion of Jesus
2:32:35 - Review of the Stream
2:33:58 - *Andrew (Revert) joins*
2:36:18 - Updates & Gladiators leave
2:38:12 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up
SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙
Marvellous Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
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@@michaelevans4110You're Most Welcome Akhi 😊
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BarakAllahu Fik, much appreciated !
JAZAKUMULLAH KHAIRAN FOR THE TIMESTAMPS BROTHER ❤❤❤
Ya ALLAH... please gives hidayah taufiq to Tian, lead him and all his families to Islam...
he sounds sincere
Ameen
Tian, what a wonderful person. Very respectable brother. Just cried because he now became my brother.
The way Hamza flowed with Tian..All I have to say is...Allah humma Barik!! Hamza floated like a butterfly and sometimes stung like a bee haha 😂
Definitely! He should clip this part and show it to those on the fence about god
Mashallah that people are starting to learn about Islam and its guidance to success, may Allah the Almighty for make it easy.
That Isa guy was definitely fed his deviant beliefs by his father and after his passing he feels like he has to carry and push these beliefs forward. He’s definitely lost, Inshallah he comes to the straight path.
2:17:21 New Shahadah. Alhamdulillah
This video is for me #1. Tian bit is an instant classic. gave my iimaan a jolt of assurance. Maashallaah, Hamza you are def blessed, all the brothers on here are blessed with knowledge and common sense.
Allahu Akbar!
Alhamdulilah, one more brother for the sake of Allah!
Welcome to Islam Dayas Panditas!
Great stream!
All the Muslims, go and 👍the stream. Let's go, it is the least you can do to support these brothers who are doing amazing work!
What a pathetic cult. Ex muslims are sick of the lies riddles contradictions and confusion of islam. You have nothing
Oh my goodness, the amount of hoops these non-muslims go through to try and reconcile their beliefs is incredible. Allahumdillah I am muslim, it is so simple, there is only 1 God, Allah swt and the final messenger is Mohammed (pbuh). Sweet and simple. Allahumdillah
The first guy is clueless about his bible.
There is not a single Christian who knows his bible from cover to cover.
Steve, in the same way there is not a single Christian who knows their Scriptures, their is not a Single Muslim in this comment section able to debate a True Christian.
@@travisdempster4693 Are you a true Christian and would you like to debate me?
Its funny how in the book of numbers it literally says God is not the son of man, also Jesus mentions about another son of man to come after him and they will reject him the way they reject Jesus, also there is mandinians in iraq who believe John the baptist is the last prophet and have their own book about him so not sure what isa is talking about, also as of 2023 we have 100% of the manuscripts dating the 1st century of Islam
Which verses?
Last time I heard it was 97 point something. When did it became 100? Just recently?
@@MeowjesticMeowgicianwas 99% and haitham sadiki said its officially 100%
youtubeaccount32...where does Jesus says "Another Son of Man is coming after him?"
In Numbers Yahweh does not say "I am not a son of man"
It would be beneficial if you included references with your statements.
But in numbers Yahweh says He does not lie, like man lies.
The premise is Yahweh does not Lie.
@@travisdempster4693literally says nor im the son of man that i should lie, like use your brain why would it says son of man for a reason? To distinguish it from an angel or God
1:25:35 There is no such thing as true randomness; what we call "random" often results from unexplained or unknown variables. The only one who knows every single configuration of the variables is the one who set them-the Creator.
That smoke alarm battery!!!!!!!!!
JazakAllah'u khairan 🇵🇸🤲🏻 ☝🏻
Masha'Allah Tabarak'Allah brother Zeeshan @smile2jannah I was PRAYING that someone would explain the basic criterias to Tian so he doesn't waste his life looking at 4000 religions and you DID IT MATE. May Allah guide the sincere. Ameen
May Allah SWT bless you and your beloved and keep you forward in the same track of being sowrds of Islam
*_Mashaq'Allah, Zakir Hussain crushed the Pagan Christian within the first few minutes._*
the term Christian has lost all meaning at this point
they all claim to have had some spiritual experience that's given them free license to reinterpret their book however they see fit
„I know I know, but it was a stupid answer.“
Hamza classic, love it 😂
MasyaAllah
Well done guys
السلام علیکم و رحمتہ اللہ و برکاتہ. MASHALLH I learned so much in so little time and understanding of Deen of Syedna Muhammad Mustafa Peace be upon him Islam. I try to remember everything as explained about Islam Allah Subhana O Taallh give me the strength to do as you brothers did. Thank you very much see you in H. D. P. Speaker corner. Inshallh Tallah
Isa shocking how far he went on his dad’s footprint
Self aware, intelligent, power, independent, a will , All knowledgeable, the ability, to create.
May Allah guide and help Tian , he seems like a sincere , and a smart guy , he would be a great muslim ❤❤
I think that brother Zakir frightened the Christian’s off.
baraka ALLAHU fikoum
Mark 8:38 was the verse zakir was looking for
Jake and Zakir Hussain....a bad day for christians 😹😹
Allahumma barik brothers
48:58 respect him for saying all this with a straight face 🤣🤣
Great panelists, masha Allah
Yo this is the worst verbal beating I've ever heard. 😂😂😂
جزاكم الله خيرا عن المسلمين
Great stream
😂😂😂😂
@allseeingeye1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zakir looks like he got them yellow paint from his walls from Del boy haha
This Arena will be forever etched in the history books as the FIRST Arena to host an actual AI. Jake's no show was a disappointment too.
Wich one is a i ?
Are you talking about Tian? I actually do know Chinese who speak like him.
@@Akif1905I think he means Tian.
2:26:37 this kid killed me 😂😂😂😂
You need uploads like this to help get you through Ramadan!
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar to the shahada ❤
I hope the Isa guy gets his brainwashing removed somehow and may Allah give him hidaya, if he is sincere and not just knowingly promoting falsehood.
Another great stream
The Rob thing was definitely a recording. I've been binging these arenas, and I heard Rob say the exact same thing about “you assume them to be a virgin” in the exact same tone of voice in a previous video.
"Drive-by Shahada" leave it brother Jishan with the jokes 😂
It’s game over for any atheist when Jake arrives
Issa ibn yahya...
One word.
Fried!
46:00 I don't think it's a good idea to give this guy a platform. First time ok, second time nah. enough is enough.
Alright brother Hamza it’s really time to change that smoke alarm battery 🤣
Ooow thats smile2jannah 😂 i like his humour
all the christians know the truth, but its not easy to admit that.
Someone needs to fix their Fire Detector battery LOL
For the love of PETE, go fix that bloody thing!!!! I can't continue listening I would have already ripped it off the wall ya lazy F%ck whoever it is I don't care even Darren but HE WOULD NOT let it keep doing it either I would imagine.
At what minute can you hear the noise?
At what minute can you hear the noise?
Please get doctor Ali Ataie on for these Christians
4:57 Jesus divinity arguments:
- 6:28 Refuting the claims
- 8:37 Was Jesus given authority? How could he be given something he already had?
9:08 Jesus not being the son of man
- 9:12, 9:46, What makes you think the son of man is Jesus?
12:21 Daniel 7 does not prove Jesus is God, the son of man is not god
13:55 Even biblical scholars say he did not make the claim of divinity/the son of man
15:15 Matthew 24, Jesus referring to someone else
18:30 Luke 9: 26, Jesus referring to someone else
20:04 Concluded: Daniel 7 and the Son of man does not prove Jesus is God
Debunking the claims of Jesus being God:
John 1:1
26:07 Do you believe the word is the son?
26:58 , 27:21 Jesus is with God, so who is God?
30:28 John 1:14 he is using, butchering the gospel of John. Its not saying what he thinks it says.
31:52
33:52 Jessus being the word becoming incarnate, not the correct meaning, butchering of texts
43:38 Quran was changed as well as bible claim
1:06:16 Agnostic
1:08:38 Came from nothing claim
1:09:18 Universe created itself claim
1:10:10, 1:12:29 Infinite regress
1:15:10 About the necessary existence
1:20:00 Must have a will
1:26:15 Evidence of Gods existence
1:32:17
1:33:12 Only messenger for all of mankind
1:40:40 Criteria of Gods revelation
1:53:30
1:57:00 Evidence of Gods existence - S2J
2:04:50 - Hamza
In the Gospel of Jesus the only reference to "The Son of Man" is Jesus. Jesus=THE SON OF MAN. It is a Title of Divinity.
Not "a" son of man.
As we are all "a son of a man"
But THE Son of man" which is a Title.
Just as we can say "I think therefore I am" is a philosophical statement.
Bur saying "I AM" is a Title reserved for the Divine God.
@@travisdempster4693does Daniel 7 THE son of man or one like A son of man?
@jundean5292 Context matters, and who is being addressed.
Saying "son of man" is different then "like a son of man"
"Like" is synonymous with "similar" "appearing as" it demonstrates a distinction between "a son of man" and the individual.
For Example "Jumping Like a Cat"
Or one like an alley cat"
Verse the TITLE "THE Son of Man"
Thee Son of man is a Divine Title.
Verses "like a son of man" which is a visual reference.
Verses "Son of man fetch me some water"
While Daniel is a Son of Man.
Thee Son of Man is a Divine Title.
Specifically with the understanding Daniel gives that "THE Son of Man" will have the glory of God, he will be SOVEREIGN, and will be Worshipped and Honored JUST AS the Father is Worshipped.
No biblical scholar says Jesus did not state he is the Son of man.
He even Quotes the words in Daniel so honest believers are not confused or mistaken.
He says "coming with the clouds"
This is a specific reference.
There can be no confusion.
@@travisdempster4693where did you get he will be worshipped just like the Father? As mentioned in this stream by the speaker that the angel identifies the son of man as the saints of the most high
astaghfirullah astaghfirullah Ibn yahya 53:14
Bro im watching this and I feel so bad for this Sheldon guy his mind was cooking tryna process his own claims
02:39:18 - This guy's father had to become a Muslim and he was prophet!!
It drives me absolutely insane how these people make claims and then act clueless about their claims once asked to explain said claims!! They're like real life bots... Does my head in!!
“At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Matthew 11:25-30
Subhan Allah I've just looked at the "sacred treasury" website. Absolutely no explanation of the beliefs, just a supposed "scripture from Allah". Nothing said about who it was revealed to and when so unless you've watched this and seen Isa on this live, you'd be totally clueless as to where it came from and have no reason to accept it's validity, not that Isa gave any reason to accept it either. Mind blowing random ramblings mixing bible and Qur'an together more like 🤯
May Allah guide Sheldon
This lost Issa said that one of the instances of the likeness between John the Baptist and Moses 50:50 is that John has many brothers and sisters, while everyone know that God Almighty told us already the story of Zachariah and how he got miraculously the only son John the Baptist.
Sorry Issa ur marinade is false, weak and full of contradictions... Pity to come to such level 😔
He wants to convince us this was changed but without any concrete evidence. Just claims. While the Muslims have evidence it has not been changed.
Wow Zakir . U are also in the category of zishaan and hamza n dawa wise team
1:02:57 give him a chance bro hamza. I wanted you to convince him to bow and prostrate
Where are the streams with brother yemeni about the prophet ﷺ
Alhamdulillah
Tian is going to take his shahada. In Shaa Allah
is this episode re uploaded?
He keeps saying “simple as that man” bro there is nothing “simple” about your beliefs what so ever. Jesus is God and the son of God at the same time “simple as that man”
Astaqfurlah
1:15:00
allahumabarik
1:14:10 that would be a funny prank, have someone talk to an AI
The story about abu lahab and his wife both was intellectual as they lead groups and governed on a small level. So why didn't 2 people who hated Islam knew the revelation of them entering hell why just not take shahdah and shatter islam.
Sheldon was funny!!
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What is Isa saying instead of ﷺ? Selleihileiwasalem?
Lol, really. God that's funny.
😂😂😂 i don't wanna try to repeat what he is saying, I wouldn't want to blaspheme when sending Salaam to the messenger of Allah.
Isa ibn Yahya invented his own religion 😂😂😂
Is brother Isa a doctor by profession?
Masha'Allah good episode, one thing please stop accepting incoherent individual like the one called Isa.
It is complete waste of valuable Time
95:00 it says in surah kahf the Qur'an cannot be changed.... translation...27 And recite that which hath been revealed unto thee of the Scripture of thy Lord. There is none who can change His words, and thou wilt find no refuge beside Him...
So he is wrong to even believe that the Qur'an has been changed...let alone his mental illness regarding his father...
Im will save the tian part❤
I love The Arena and will always watch it but ive noticed that the live viewers as gone down and the quality of guests get worse and worse. I remember when there was 2-3k viewers and the guests were good. Im not sure what the reason for this is. Maybe none mulims are just scared to come on now.
That's because when the live version is put on air only members can watch it, then after a while it is aired to the general public.
😂 that has to be the most Clearest Analogy of an Independent being that doesn't depend on nothing The Painter and Canvas 1:22:29 ... Allah grant you a high place in jannah Zeeshan ...Atheism has to be the dumbest thing to ever exist ngl
First guest Wakey wines 😜
What is Isa ibn Yahya imbibing?😢
16:59 Christians are so used to not reading their bible
57:05 I feel sorry for this guy
Hibiscus, I know the Torah and Gospel of Jesus. I find Muslims like yourself don't know the scriptures of God.
@@travisdempster4693where is the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him that you claim to know? It's not the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John as they weren't written until after Jesus peace be upon him had died? Logically therefore they can't be what Jesus peace be upon him was teaching 🤔
@@travisdempster4693where is the gospel of Jesus peace be upon him that you claim to know? It's not the gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke nor John as they weren't written until after Jesus peace be upon him had "died" (been taken up alive as we Muslims believe)? Logically therefore they can't be what Jesus peace be upon him was teaching 🤔
Hamza why do give this crazy man so many time?
In the Bible it says they all forsook him ❤ He messiah himself who never spoke English latin or Greek he spoke his language mother Mary was chosen of a wild woman above all ladies above all nations as the most devout worshipper in the manotheistic belief in lifestyle no swine and no wine She covered herself from head to toe and loose clothing and covered her hair they were living a lifestyle that was Kosher kosher kosher kosher following the guidelines are ordained by the Lord almighty allah when he called panda Lord almighty he would say allah AA and a law H00 and just like the Christian arabs call upon the Lord almighty allah😊😅
Hamza brother, please have patience. Tian talks the way he does because he does. He was very respectable and very easy to understand and did not juno around. Don't understand why you don't have a bit of patience.
The isa guy has the people fallen this much to believe there will be other prophets.
Sounds like qadiyani
sheldon dont know how many begotten sons there are in the bible
I do not have the Bible memorized that well, and, yet, the hacker group Anonymous calls ME "the Reverend". ... .. .. so what does THAT tell you son? Zakir? What exactly are your proving?
My best, personal, interpretation of the "son of man" verse just means he came from a man. ... Meaning he was born from a man? OR MAYBE a Woman!!!! He could have meant "man" in a very general sense?
W arena
In the Bible it clearly stakes that
Was speaking to a man and the man told him you have claimed divinity and he told him such evil utterances such a blasphemous statement that you have uttered I have never claimed divinity and in the second coming and on the day of judgment that he's gonna tell them and they come to him saying these phrases Lord lord did we not do good did we not prophesize in your name Floyd Lord did we not Cast down demons in your name and he will tell them FOR SAK away with you you evil doers I never knew you I never ever told you to worship me nor my mother I said worship my Lord and your Lord the Lord almighty the creator of the heavens and the Earth and all the worlds all the world psalms called the prophecy of the messiah where it claims that he was never harmed in any shape or form No resurrection no crucifixion no assention it was just fiction and in the book of Isaiah it clearly states that the archangel Gabriel took him app and he was taken app into the heavens peace and blessings be upon them all and he was never harmed in any shape or form no crucifixion no assention no resurrectere's it 😂😂
100000 other people in his dreams
1:00:14 man just shu up
Time for a psychische doctor.where is a soco hospitaal 😂😮
All praises to the Creator it was crucifixion cuz it never happened they never read p nobody has it really read the Bible pp The prophecy of the Messiah in the book of Psalms in the book of Psalms ppp it in the book of Psalms it tells you girls in the book of Psalms that tells you in The prophecy of the Messiah that he will never be harmed he will never be hurt he will never be shamed he won't even be bruised so there's no question of any such game in the book of Isaiah clearly tells you that he was taken up by the archangel Gabriel peace and blessings be upon them both and he was never harmed in any shape p and he'll be coming in the second coming to testify against the nonsense of all of this insanity and then you will all know the
وَعَلَيْكُم السَّلَام وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ
Decoding Zionism through the old testament/Torah was amazing. I have a depth of knowledge about the political side but listening to the Brothers parse😮 the changes that have been made to accommodate a political ideology was an eye opener. My argument with the ‘Allah gave this land to us’ crowd has been ‘True, with conditions. Allah rejected Israel twice. Once He destroyed your temple and enslaved you. You were forgiven, yet your arrogance could not be humbled. You killed your prophets again. You assumed Allah was for you alone. Allah razed your temple a second time. Not one stone was left upon another, its location obscured and not locatable. Allah scattered you to the four corners of the earth. And you have not been given permission to return as a state, but your arrogance knows no bounds and you follow God hating atheists who have convinced you that you can force God’s hand.’
I never really understood how they converted Allah into a tribal God until listening to the scholarship presented in your stream.
Subhanallah!
Eagerly awaiting the next (fire alarm beeb notwithstanding🤣)
yahya stop smoking bad drug
I just had a scan through the sacred treasury and all it is, is that verses from quran and bible are copied in different chapters. This reminds me of another sect of Muslims like the qadyanis.
Another false prophet, i know he is your father brother yahya but please for the sake of Allah and your own akhira come back to the true quran and sunnah and follow Muhammad (saw). He is the true and final prophet therfore following him is to obey Allah