There are also times for situational interceptions. I'm not saying that you throw one intentionally but look at this last game. The Packers had a third down and 21 I believe at their own 38-yard line. The Bears had a similar situation earlier in the quarter in which they had a third down and 20 at midfield. The Packers threw a deep ball down the sidelines in which they came down with it for a 41-yard gain. Worst case scenario is that the ball is intercepted at about the 20-yard line which is essentially the same as a punt. That is the worst case. What did the Bears do? They threw a 6-yard play to the running back. Here is a team that has not beaten Green Bay since 2018 and had lost 10 straight games. This is how you play to not lose instead of playing to win. It's not good situational football. A deep interception does not hurt you in that scenario and you may end up completing it or getting a pass interference call. When you run plays that don't even give the quarterback an option to do that you are failing as a coaching staff.
The Bears won, so I guess that makes this post just a waste of space. But I'll play! Intentionally throwing interceptions? What happens when the other team returns the interception for a touchdown? Answer: That's when you cry for firings. Yup, I know you posters on these forums. I've been watching this BS all season. Nasty temperaments. Very negative people...
@jimsnyder6310 I agree that my phrasing of throwing situational interceptions is probably pretty poor. I suppose more accurately it should be calculated risk-taking. Don't be afraid to throw a jump ball 40 yards down the field if it lands inside of the 20 yard line on a third down and extremely long. How many times have you heard in a broadcast that's the same thing as a punt? I really wish you would have understood my post instead of just attacking the phrasing, throwing out some absurd strawman comment. While I don't have the specific numbers obviously, my guess is that a jump ball to Rome or DJ is far far more likely to end incompletion, a completion, or a pass interference van and interception returned for a touchdown. When you add in the odds that a punt is returned for a touchdown, which is obviously extremely small but not zero the benefits of taking that risk are incredibly greater than the potential that somebody intercepts it and returns it 80 plus yards for a touchdown. This is obvious. So, to attack my freezing without understanding the attendance to not understand the nuances of strategic football plays
Tim is right, Caleb needs to work on his footwork and his deep ball accuracy. People, please stop with the Fockery, Bears coaches have lost 4 games that are on the coaches, and I am not exaggerating. Caleb has some issues, and he must grow from this season, but for Caleb to do what he did with this team, dam just imagine if we get competent coaches.
If this is how he feels about the offense, I wonder what his thoughts were when he found out that pass to dj down the field to setup for the field goal was Caleb making adjustments to the play. Originally it was suppose to be a play to the sideline and that’s also what green bay expected, which is why the middle of the field was so open, Caleb definitely showed that his football iq is growing just from that play alone
I still think the issue with Nagy was that he wanted to run his offense. He didn't want to tailor it to Trubisky. He did that in 2018 when they won the division. But then he was stubborn and wanted to run an offense that Trubisky simply couldn't. That may be because he was a first time head coach. I hope he recognizes now that his stubborness cost him his job. The best coaches adapt to what they have around them in terms of talent.
670 The Score. Needs to connect this guy to Poles for QB coach or passing Game coordinator. The average fan can’t reach them. So please send this video to Poles or Warren.
It’s the opposite of that, it’s like.. George - how would you respond to the media if we got beat so bad that your hair started on fire? Candidate - yea well, things didn’t go the way we planned and we aren’t happy with the outcome but we will be working hard to get it fixed. I’m confident in our guys George - he is the one
@@jesusortiz8666 Shoulda, woulda, coulda.. It's the hypothetical cry on the internet. They beat the Pack. Who cares what the media talking heads think should have happened...
You can't expect a incompetent HC and/or OC to have competent assistants. I think people were too high on Thomas Brown because he had a different personality. But, the results on offense were virtually the same - with the exception of a game here or there. We didn't see many new plays or any significant change in what plays we were calling. Kmet still disappeared, still overused screens, and virtually no downfield shots. Yes, I understand the OL limited us, but I feel like you could have done a lot more, even within Waldron's playbook.
Bears WR core has no speed to stretch the safeties. Moore, Allen, and Rome are all possession recievers. Good offenses have a guy who can stretch the safeties deep. Rome should be in the slot. Bears need to add speed on offense who can blow the top of defenses.
You got that from the media. And for some reason you decided it was cool enough to say it again. Learn to think for yourself and you will see how uninformed the media actually is.
I agree that Bear's OCs have not worked out - Martz, Nagy, Waldron were "big names" that failed. I also think Eberflus hired Waldron and if what Tim says is true, it was over reliance on Flus that we should be harping on. There is a lot of loose discussion in this group, speculation on what people did and their motives. I agree with Kurt Warner - hire a leader as a head coach and let him put together the OC and DC. Andy Reid is very very rare. Follow the Lions example, hire a HC who is the leader and let him assemble his staff.
reid isn’t that rare. there are lots of great offensive coaches in the NFL. payton, harbaugh, shanny, KOC, mcvay, lafluer, ben johnson, mccarthy and others are prob great as well. we have to stop pretending that great qbs and coaches are unicorns and so we might as well settle for justin fields and mike vrabel. it’s a losing mentality. keep looking for an offensive genius coach and a great qb. you can’t win without them anyways.
@@shake6321 Ben Johnson is not a head coach, lafluer is hardly successful, Mccarty was run out of GB, harbaugh???? None of your others are even in the same zip code as Reid. My point - the head coach shoudl not be the OC. A lesson Dan Campbell actually learned a few years ago.......Vrabel is not a loser. Find a leader!!! then find a great OC. Actually - great QBs are in fact rare - in current NFL there are like 3 or 4. When you get one - hold on to him.
@@ElizabethMasek What if I told you that you cannot even get close to playing in the NFL without being a great player. Would you believe me? I think there were 3 or 4 rookies this year who are heading towards being great QBs. Doubt many will believe that weird statement. Just because you use the word "fact" does not actually make make your statement true.
@@jimsnyder6310 its capitalism. if the market demands it, capitalism will produce it. the market began to demand great offensive coaches and QB's 25 years ago when it was clear that Bill Walsh and his west coast offense and his tree of coaches would dominate the NFL. and thus, we've produced a ton of great offensive coaches and QB's. The Bears are just so stupid they still want defensive coaches. if it were up to 1/3 of bears fans we'd have Mike Vrabel and Justin Fields losing to LaFluer & Love for the next 15 years.
And why would you think that selling the team is the answer? Do you watch sports? The successful teams generally have a long term ownership. Not sure how selling the team from the NFL founder's family would be a positive thing for the Bears. GSH is a god in the NFL. But then again, I am not a media echo. I don't understand why anyone would believe in the garbage that the media feeds their viewers.
We all know they're gonna foul it up. They'll hire someone that's a bit under the radar and it excuse it by saying he interviewed well or someone in their circle thinks highly of him. And on we go. The blind leading the blind.
Poles didn't build inside out, he built from the outside in, and maybe jeopardized his employment because he left Caleb on an island. Guards, center, a beast of a running back will help.
Who are you talking about? Using blanket statement like "offensive line" shows that you actually are not really knowledgeable about individuals on this team. I'm thinking everybody in the NFL will work on their fundamentals this off-season. Not really seeing a point here.
@@geraldo-i6k You missed it. He drafted o-linemen every year and bought some FAs on the line as well. It wasn't as if he purposely drafted other positions first. You just heard this rumor fro the media and repeated it. Sorry, you cannot believe the media. For anything...
Yes, his money has destroyed the team. He should have used the Canadian dollar instead. You don't even know what the role is of the grandchild of the founder of the NFL for this team. You are a Type II poster. The finger-pointer. The team failed. It must be one person's fault. Who should we crucify today? It's a game that is way too popular in the media.
If the fans think they're going to see any change , I've got a Bridge in Brooklyn , NY I'll sell them real cheap !! You will see the same incompetent Poles making bad moves and the losing will continue !
Ryan Poles should not be picking the next coach of the Chicago bears period. Neither should he be aloud to draft because he hasn't produce any Pro Bowlers or any All Pros with any of the past picks in the last 3 years. Jaylon Johnson was Ryan Paces pick. Even his Free Agent pick haven't achieved Pro Bowl or All Pro status.
Tim don’t feel comfortable talking he starts saying something then always stop 🛑 and say I DONT KNOW ! his favorite catchphrase IDK what you scared of buddy
the bears are just stupid and dont believe in offense. when the packer mess up hire marty mornhinweg they don’t then hire a defensive coach. they still go and try to hire a great offensive coach.
The Bears are stupid, but you are the one who decided capitalization was a nuisance. At least you use punctuation (your literacy score is therefore hire than most in these forums). It is good that you now discovered that you were a Packers fan all along. Now go find something else to do.
@@jimsnyder6310 dont get me started on grammar in the comments sections or in general. lol. its very overrated and Grammar is fake, created by "Big English" to control people. Grammar isnt found in nature. and the Grammar you follow today didnt exist in the past. I am only a packers "fans" in so far as I respect what they have done. they'll pretty much have 3 HOF QB's in a row. thats legendary. but why are the packers so great? they stole from SF. the Bears use to dominate the packers in the 80's. the pack saw that Bill Walsh was the one guys who dominated the Bears. the pack went and got Walsh's right hand man, Mike Holmgren. The Bears waited another 30 years to find a West Coast offense coach (matt nagy) because they thought passing was a "fad". Just emulate success. Be the niners and packers and Eagles. All three teams are built around bill walsh and his proteges. Walsh to Holmgren to Reid. The Bears are built around Ditka, a man who once traded his entire draft for Ricky Williams. lol
Damn first min dude proves he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or atleast is disingenuous… no way offense against the packers was worse than what happened vs Seattle
They're going to interview 30 people and hire the defensive coordinator of the Broncos.
That would definitely be a typical Bears move.
😂😂😂
100% correct.
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Yup
The title of this video, is an understatement.
There are also times for situational interceptions. I'm not saying that you throw one intentionally but look at this last game. The Packers had a third down and 21 I believe at their own 38-yard line. The Bears had a similar situation earlier in the quarter in which they had a third down and 20 at midfield. The Packers threw a deep ball down the sidelines in which they came down with it for a 41-yard gain. Worst case scenario is that the ball is intercepted at about the 20-yard line which is essentially the same as a punt. That is the worst case. What did the Bears do? They threw a 6-yard play to the running back. Here is a team that has not beaten Green Bay since 2018 and had lost 10 straight games. This is how you play to not lose instead of playing to win. It's not good situational football. A deep interception does not hurt you in that scenario and you may end up completing it or getting a pass interference call. When you run plays that don't even give the quarterback an option to do that you are failing as a coaching staff.
The Bears won, so I guess that makes this post just a waste of space. But I'll play! Intentionally throwing interceptions? What happens when the other team returns the interception for a touchdown? Answer: That's when you cry for firings. Yup, I know you posters on these forums. I've been watching this BS all season. Nasty temperaments. Very negative people...
@jimsnyder6310 I agree that my phrasing of throwing situational interceptions is probably pretty poor. I suppose more accurately it should be calculated risk-taking. Don't be afraid to throw a jump ball 40 yards down the field if it lands inside of the 20 yard line on a third down and extremely long. How many times have you heard in a broadcast that's the same thing as a punt? I really wish you would have understood my post instead of just attacking the phrasing, throwing out some absurd strawman comment. While I don't have the specific numbers obviously, my guess is that a jump ball to Rome or DJ is far far more likely to end incompletion, a completion, or a pass interference van and interception returned for a touchdown. When you add in the odds that a punt is returned for a touchdown, which is obviously extremely small but not zero the benefits of taking that risk are incredibly greater than the potential that somebody intercepts it and returns it 80 plus yards for a touchdown. This is obvious. So, to attack my freezing without understanding the attendance to not understand the nuances of strategic football plays
Tim is right, Caleb needs to work on his footwork and his deep ball accuracy.
People, please stop with the Fockery, Bears coaches have lost 4 games that are on the coaches, and I am not exaggerating.
Caleb has some issues, and he must grow from this season, but for Caleb to do what he did with this team, dam just imagine if we get competent coaches.
If this is how he feels about the offense, I wonder what his thoughts were when he found out that pass to dj down the field to setup for the field goal was Caleb making adjustments to the play. Originally it was suppose to be a play to the sideline and that’s also what green bay expected, which is why the middle of the field was so open, Caleb definitely showed that his football iq is growing just from that play alone
I still think the issue with Nagy was that he wanted to run his offense. He didn't want to tailor it to Trubisky. He did that in 2018 when they won the division. But then he was stubborn and wanted to run an offense that Trubisky simply couldn't. That may be because he was a first time head coach. I hope he recognizes now that his stubborness cost him his job. The best coaches adapt to what they have around them in terms of talent.
Totally Agree With You 💯
670 The Score. Needs to connect this guy to Poles for QB coach or passing Game coordinator. The average fan can’t reach them. So please send this video to Poles or Warren.
No need. The media is not qualified as well. They are equivalent to average fan. The only difference is that they have a platform.
George: Draw a play on this napkin
Applicant : done
George: You're hired
It’s the opposite of that, it’s like..
George - how would you respond to the media if we got beat so bad that your hair started on fire?
Candidate - yea well, things didn’t go the way we planned and we aren’t happy with the outcome but we will be working hard to get it fixed. I’m confident in our guys
George - he is the one
Sorry Jenkins u don't know what you're talking bout if you think bears shouldn't of beat the packers
Ha ha! And George isn't even hiring the new coach. That is the funniest thing since Parkey's double doink!
@@johnnychimpo7539 But the media is completely irrelevant to the game? Not as funny as Cody Parkey. Work more on your humor, then post.
@@jesusortiz8666 Shoulda, woulda, coulda.. It's the hypothetical cry on the internet. They beat the Pack. Who cares what the media talking heads think should have happened...
I hope you end up on an NFL staff, Tim.
A podcaster on an NFL team. That is hilarious! 😆
Tim speaking truth on fire this time
You can't expect a incompetent HC and/or OC to have competent assistants. I think people were too high on Thomas Brown because he had a different personality. But, the results on offense were virtually the same - with the exception of a game here or there. We didn't see many new plays or any significant change in what plays we were calling. Kmet still disappeared, still overused screens, and virtually no downfield shots. Yes, I understand the OL limited us, but I feel like you could have done a lot more, even within Waldron's playbook.
If you are interviewing more than 10 guys. You are clueless as to what you want in your next head coach..
Bears WR core has no speed to stretch the safeties. Moore, Allen, and Rome are all possession recievers. Good offenses have a guy who can stretch the safeties deep. Rome should be in the slot. Bears need to add speed on offense who can blow the top of defenses.
You got that from the media. And for some reason you decided it was cool enough to say it again. Learn to think for yourself and you will see how uninformed the media actually is.
@@jimsnyder6310 Not the media buddy. Anyone can see that. I am stating how I see the offense struggle besides the poor O-line.
Caleb deep ball accuracy needs tremendous work so he's had an good year but if his mechanics doesn't get worked on then he won't be going up
I agree that Bear's OCs have not worked out - Martz, Nagy, Waldron were "big names" that failed. I also think Eberflus hired Waldron and if what Tim says is true, it was over reliance on Flus that we should be harping on. There is a lot of loose discussion in this group, speculation on what people did and their motives. I agree with Kurt Warner - hire a leader as a head coach and let him put together the OC and DC. Andy Reid is very very rare. Follow the Lions example, hire a HC who is the leader and let him assemble his staff.
reid isn’t that rare. there are lots of great offensive coaches in the NFL. payton, harbaugh, shanny, KOC, mcvay, lafluer, ben johnson, mccarthy and others are prob great as well.
we have to stop pretending that great qbs and coaches are unicorns and so we might as well settle for justin fields and mike vrabel. it’s a losing mentality. keep looking for an offensive genius coach and a great qb. you can’t win without them anyways.
@@shake6321 Ben Johnson is not a head coach, lafluer is hardly successful, Mccarty was run out of GB, harbaugh???? None of your others are even in the same zip code as Reid. My point - the head coach shoudl not be the OC. A lesson Dan Campbell actually learned a few years ago.......Vrabel is not a loser. Find a leader!!! then find a great OC. Actually - great QBs are in fact rare - in current NFL there are like 3 or 4. When you get one - hold on to him.
@@shake6321 The great coaches and QBs actually seem quite common nowadays...
@@ElizabethMasek What if I told you that you cannot even get close to playing in the NFL without being a great player. Would you believe me? I think there were 3 or 4 rookies this year who are heading towards being great QBs. Doubt many will believe that weird statement. Just because you use the word "fact" does not actually make make your statement true.
@@jimsnyder6310 its capitalism. if the market demands it, capitalism will produce it. the market began to demand great offensive coaches and QB's 25 years ago when it was clear that Bill Walsh and his west coast offense and his tree of coaches would dominate the NFL. and thus, we've produced a ton of great offensive coaches and QB's.
The Bears are just so stupid they still want defensive coaches. if it were up to 1/3 of bears fans we'd have Mike Vrabel and Justin Fields losing to LaFluer & Love for the next 15 years.
I agree with the title. Sell the team.
And why would you think that selling the team is the answer? Do you watch sports? The successful teams generally have a long term ownership. Not sure how selling the team from the NFL founder's family would be a positive thing for the Bears. GSH is a god in the NFL. But then again, I am not a media echo. I don't understand why anyone would believe in the garbage that the media feeds their viewers.
I assume they will get one of the cheapest options, whoever is left or some „smart, surprise“-move one of of those DC that has never been a HC before
Caleb just needs some comptent coaching and I'm afraid he'll never get it withthe Bears !
Yes, the Bears are only looking for competent coaches. AKA Coaches who have been a head coach before.
We all know they're gonna foul it up. They'll hire someone that's a bit under the radar and it excuse it by saying he interviewed well or someone in their circle thinks highly of him. And on we go. The blind leading the blind.
What do you think a bad OL did for his performance? Might next year be the time he can in game focus on fundamentals? Poles did him dirty smh
Poles didn't build inside out, he built from the outside in, and maybe jeopardized his employment because he left Caleb on an island. Guards, center, a beast of a running back will help.
Who are you talking about? Using blanket statement like "offensive line" shows that you actually are not really knowledgeable about individuals on this team. I'm thinking everybody in the NFL will work on their fundamentals this off-season. Not really seeing a point here.
@@geraldo-i6k You missed it. He drafted o-linemen every year and bought some FAs on the line as well. It wasn't as if he purposely drafted other positions first. You just heard this rumor fro the media and repeated it. Sorry, you cannot believe the media. For anything...
Matt nagy never called plays in kc
the Bears "thought" they would win by osmosis by hiring Nagy, confusing right? That's the Bears.
He did...I saw that game and he messed up on some play calling.
I'm not backing nagy....but I don't know why the bears decided to hire him after that!
Uh, Nagy was three HCs ago. Why?
Right? @@jimsnyder6310
Of course his arrow is still pointed up. Unnecessary question
This is all on the incomptent George M !!
Yes, his money has destroyed the team. He should have used the Canadian dollar instead. You don't even know what the role is of the grandchild of the founder of the NFL for this team. You are a Type II poster. The finger-pointer. The team failed. It must be one person's fault. Who should we crucify today? It's a game that is way too popular in the media.
People at the Press Conference were not the Football people but just typical Corporate BS Artists
If the fans think they're going to see any change , I've got a Bridge in Brooklyn , NY I'll sell them real cheap !! You will see the same incompetent Poles making bad moves and the losing will continue !
I mean they’ve missed on the last 3…
Yes, do not take chances on an inexperienced HC again! Learn from your mistakes.
The 3 Stooges are running and ruining the Bears George ,Ryan, and Kevin ! NUK NUK NUK !!
Wow, a diss from the 1940s. At least you were not just quoting the media with your hatred. So many take that mindless route. Look at the grouse!
At this point kind of pointless breaking down a offense that wasn’t installed by this coaching staff.
At any point, this stuff is pointless. In the NFL, they call it the "outside noise".
I’ll never forgive the Bears for the way they did Fields
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Oh and Jenkins would Ya right
Ryan Poles should not be picking the next coach of the Chicago bears period. Neither should he be aloud to draft because he hasn't produce any Pro Bowlers or any All Pros with any of the past picks in the last 3 years. Jaylon Johnson was Ryan Paces pick. Even his Free Agent pick haven't achieved Pro Bowl or All Pro status.
The mistake is Ryan poles is picking the coach again he has already shown he can't do this he has more failures than wins
Someone please remind wonton Jenkins is and why we care if he’s worried? 😂😂😂
Contrary take: I don't think this Jenkins guy knows wtf he's talkin' about.
Then he is indeed in the right place!
Tim don’t feel comfortable talking he starts saying something then always stop 🛑 and say I DONT KNOW ! his favorite catchphrase IDK what you scared of buddy
He ain't that good if he thought bears shouldn't of beat packers because of draft spot , bears don't draft good anyway
@@jesusortiz8666 ..and the draft is just a crap shoot anyways.
the bears are just stupid and dont believe in offense. when the packer mess up hire marty mornhinweg they don’t then hire a defensive coach. they still go and try to hire a great offensive coach.
The Bears are stupid, but you are the one who decided capitalization was a nuisance. At least you use punctuation (your literacy score is therefore hire than most in these forums). It is good that you now discovered that you were a Packers fan all along. Now go find something else to do.
@@jimsnyder6310 dont get me started on grammar in the comments sections or in general. lol. its very overrated and Grammar is fake, created by "Big English" to control people. Grammar isnt found in nature. and the Grammar you follow today didnt exist in the past.
I am only a packers "fans" in so far as I respect what they have done. they'll pretty much have 3 HOF QB's in a row. thats legendary. but why are the packers so great? they stole from SF. the Bears use to dominate the packers in the 80's. the pack saw that Bill Walsh was the one guys who dominated the Bears. the pack went and got Walsh's right hand man, Mike Holmgren. The Bears waited another 30 years to find a West Coast offense coach (matt nagy) because they thought passing was a "fad".
Just emulate success. Be the niners and packers and Eagles. All three teams are built around bill walsh and his proteges. Walsh to Holmgren to Reid.
The Bears are built around Ditka, a man who once traded his entire draft for Ricky Williams. lol
That chicks voice gets on my nerves!
There was a chicken in this podcast?
Damn first min dude proves he doesn’t know what he’s talking about or atleast is disingenuous… no way offense against the packers was worse than what happened vs Seattle
Your problem is you actually watched this podcast. I stopped listening to these hacks months ago.
And who is Tim Jenkins and who cares what he feels