Everton's situation reminds me of Hamburg's, massive historic clubs with huge fanbases but irrelevant since the 80s and somehow escaping relegation for the past 10 years, if they go down I'm afraid they will stay down for a while
@@kevink01639 Untrue, do some research. Everton have won more titles, and is one of the longest serving top flight teams in Europe, they're third on the all time English top flight points list. By every metric imaginable, Everton are a bigger club.
I think Everton are looking at teams like forest and Bournemouth and thinking they can’t get there with dyche. If the owners think the newly promoted teams are bad enough for Everton to survive, making this decision now gives the new manager and “extended” pre season
@@LyesClips for sure, and dyche is great for a relegation battle historically. But the lack of goals is extremely worrying, I don’t think there’s any guarantee he’s the difference between them staying up or not this season.
That 4 v 2 Chance against City was very telling. The striker looked like he was going to poop his pants! I have a feeling there's zero attacking drills during training.
The ironic thing is, premier league teams that are fighting relegation and sack their manager will immediately look at bringing in Sean Dyche if available. If Dyche hadn't managed Everton and they had sacked their current manager they would have looked at appointing Sean Dyche.
You can’t convince me that Sean Dyche wasn’t steering Everton toward relegation with his ultra-defensive tactics, essentially playing with 10 men behind the ball. The stats don’t lie: last in xG, no shots on goal in the two games prior to today, and held scoreless in 11 of 19 matches this season. This is the same squad-minus Amadou Onana-that managed to finish 11th last season without any point deductions. Dyche’s record speaks for itself: just 8 wins in the entire calendar year. Everton have scored only one goal from open play in their last 10 league matches. That’s not sustainable; it’s a recipe for relegation. Even worse, the team blew two separate games this season after being up 2-0. It’s unfortunate it came to this because Dyche did some good things during his time, but his recent performances-and his attitude-were unacceptable. His press conferences often involved throwing his players and fans under the bus. The team’s body language on the pitch has been telling, with visible signs that they’ve turned on him. Just the other day, he admitted the players did “nothing he wanted them to do” in the first half of a match. That kind of disconnect signals the end. Even TFG backed him earlier this week, but after today’s meeting, Dyche himself admitted this was as far as he could take the team. Ultimately, he quit. It was time for a change.
Football is a game that’s constantly changing and evolving, tactics used 5/6 years ago don’t even work in todays game, never mind dyches tactics which are more 1990s. Everton need a manager that can completely revamp the club, dyche was never going to be that man
as an evertonian, that could not be more true... we are tired of seeing us playing terrorist football against even the likes of fulham and southampton we can kind of defend but we were completely useless in attack
@@bullyf4336 ya look we know we’re rubbish. Last year we scored 48 points then got deducted 10. It’s a massive regression. Haven’t scored in 8 of the last 10 and 26 open play goals in 57. That’s why we wanted a change simple. We couldn’t watch them anymore under Dyche
Everton fan here- I knew this would by dyches last year at the club but for Friedkin to make this move now is something I don’t understand. Like it or not we ARE in a relegation battle and sacking Dyche makes us going down a true reality. We needed stability and a guarantee of premier league football for next year when we have our new stadium, and Dyche brings that guarantee. Whatever new manager Friedkin brings in WILL be at risk of getting us relegated. Our player quality is so few that the hopes of us playing full flowing football is not realistic without a complete financial investment and squad turnover. I am hoping that whatever manager comes in steadies the ship for the rest of the season and keeps us up.
I think Moyes, with hope of new manager bounce and better fan reaction will do better than Dyche for rest of the season. Ideally would only have moyes till the summer, but a 1 1/2 year contract wouldn't be bad either. 2 1/2 years I think would be too much however
Some of the points you've made are fair, but this feels like a very biased 'Pro-Dyche' perspective. You probably should've waited a bit before getting the video out, as people like Paul Joyce broke more news on why TFG parted ways with him. TFG met with Dyche to discuss the current form, but Dyche has said he's gotten all he can out of this group but would not resign, as he wanted the bonuses from his ridiculous contract. TFG felt he had "given up" and so they took the decision to not look 'soft' and decided to get rid ASAP. You simply cannot remain as a Premier League Club when you have a Manager with that sort of attitude. It plays in completely to how toothless and spineless we've been this year. Devoid of any ideas, bar 'get yourselves in front of shots...hope Jordan Pickford saves 14 shots a game...hit it long to Ndiaye, stand around and watch him beat multiple defenders'. He was checked out, entirely, and deservedly bulleted. I'm not with you on Moyes, either. I feel like he's Dyche without the defensive solidity. WHU were a bad watch towards the back end of last season, with an eerily similar form to us this year (2W in 11 games), felt like they relied on a lot of quality, that we don't have, to win games. And as you said, he has a lot of work to do to win Evertonians back, which will certainly never happen with myself. However, you're definitely right about 'the grass not being greener'. Another cliché to add is, 'it's better the devil you do know, than the one you don't'. Dyche does have the prior of staying up, with this group as well, but I feel like you just cannot keep him on after what he's said. In short; Dyche got the chop deservedly so, for his attitude and his performances, Moyes definitely isn't the answer and it feels like a sideways or backwards step, and I'm noticeably disappointed with Kevin Thelwell and TFG if this is the route they've decided to go down.
@@LyesClipsPersonally I agree with everything the OP said but I can’t see ant other alternative than DM. He got WHU into multiple European finishes, won them a trophy, and its all gone downhill since hes left Also, he knows Everton, has been in relegation dog fights before, I do believe can get more out of this team to what we’re seeing and theres no other alternative. The other alternatives is Paulo Fonseca who personally not super impressed as a fellow Portuguese person; he’s gotten a lot of big gigs and has fallen out with ownership, players mainly everywhere he’s been, and hes been sacked by the Friedkins at Roma before so not a fit. Other than that who is there other than Moyes? Moyes is the safest pair of hands for this season there literally is no one else
Everton play such horrible football and Dyche’s tactics are so dread. A historic club like that shouldn’t be subjected to such football year after year. But as a Liverpool fan idc if they go down or not. I just hate watching crap football in the Prem. Send em down and bring in something new or hire someone to play better ball.
Everton's situation reminds me of Hamburg's, massive historic clubs with huge fanbases but irrelevant since the 80s and somehow escaping relegation for the past 10 years, if they go down I'm afraid they will stay down for a while
Hamburg is a much bigger club than Everton
@@kevink01639bro use ur head is the same context context
@@kevink01639 Untrue, do some research. Everton have won more titles, and is one of the longest serving top flight teams in Europe, they're third on the all time English top flight points list. By every metric imaginable, Everton are a bigger club.
Hamburg literally won the Champions League in 1983.
@@AntoniotheGOAT Everton won the cup winners cup in 85
utter woke nonsense
Indeed
Woke?
@@Earl357 joke
You don't know ball
Games gone
I think Everton are looking at teams like forest and Bournemouth and thinking they can’t get there with dyche. If the owners think the newly promoted teams are bad enough for Everton to survive, making this decision now gives the new manager and “extended” pre season
i hear it but big risk!
Ipswich are staying up you heard it here first
@@LyesClips for sure, and dyche is great for a relegation battle historically. But the lack of goals is extremely worrying, I don’t think there’s any guarantee he’s the difference between them staying up or not this season.
Which is why they should've waited till the end of the season before sacking him.
That 4 v 2 Chance against City was very telling. The striker looked like he was going to poop his pants!
I have a feeling there's zero attacking drills during training.
The ironic thing is, premier league teams that are fighting relegation and sack their manager will immediately look at bringing in Sean Dyche if available. If Dyche hadn't managed Everton and they had sacked their current manager they would have looked at appointing Sean Dyche.
You can’t convince me that Sean Dyche wasn’t steering Everton toward relegation with his ultra-defensive tactics, essentially playing with 10 men behind the ball. The stats don’t lie: last in xG, no shots on goal in the two games prior to today, and held scoreless in 11 of 19 matches this season. This is the same squad-minus Amadou Onana-that managed to finish 11th last season without any point deductions.
Dyche’s record speaks for itself: just 8 wins in the entire calendar year. Everton have scored only one goal from open play in their last 10 league matches. That’s not sustainable; it’s a recipe for relegation. Even worse, the team blew two separate games this season after being up 2-0.
It’s unfortunate it came to this because Dyche did some good things during his time, but his recent performances-and his attitude-were unacceptable. His press conferences often involved throwing his players and fans under the bus. The team’s body language on the pitch has been telling, with visible signs that they’ve turned on him. Just the other day, he admitted the players did “nothing he wanted them to do” in the first half of a match. That kind of disconnect signals the end.
Even TFG backed him earlier this week, but after today’s meeting, Dyche himself admitted this was as far as he could take the team. Ultimately, he quit. It was time for a change.
Football is a game that’s constantly changing and evolving, tactics used 5/6 years ago don’t even work in todays game, never mind dyches tactics which are more 1990s. Everton need a manager that can completely revamp the club, dyche was never going to be that man
as an evertonian, that could not be more true... we are tired of seeing us playing terrorist football against even the likes of fulham and southampton
we can kind of defend but we were completely useless in attack
It seemed like Ipswich had no chance but this development will definitely give them a chance.
We are 16th and he is here for 2 years not 19 games.
You don't have any quality in your squad, why you speaking like you didn't just escaped relegation before him
Next 19 games decide whether you stay in the league or play Stoke on a random Tuesday night
@@bullyf4336 ya look we know we’re rubbish. Last year we scored 48 points then got deducted 10. It’s a massive regression. Haven’t scored in 8 of the last 10 and 26 open play goals in 57. That’s why we wanted a change simple. We couldn’t watch them anymore under Dyche
Everton fan here- I knew this would by dyches last year at the club but for Friedkin to make this move now is something I don’t understand. Like it or not we ARE in a relegation battle and sacking Dyche makes us going down a true reality. We needed stability and a guarantee of premier league football for next year when we have our new stadium, and Dyche brings that guarantee. Whatever new manager Friedkin brings in WILL be at risk of getting us relegated. Our player quality is so few that the hopes of us playing full flowing football is not realistic without a complete financial investment and squad turnover. I am hoping that whatever manager comes in steadies the ship for the rest of the season and keeps us up.
I think Moyes, with hope of new manager bounce and better fan reaction will do better than Dyche for rest of the season. Ideally would only have moyes till the summer, but a 1 1/2 year contract wouldn't be bad either. 2 1/2 years I think would be too much however
Damn good effort g
Lyes the consistency keep it up 2025 is your year inshallah!❤️
What does inshallah mean because I've seen many people say it
@AscendedEmbryo it means if god wills
Totally agree with you, you're spot on. Dyche was let down by transfers
Some of the points you've made are fair, but this feels like a very biased 'Pro-Dyche' perspective. You probably should've waited a bit before getting the video out, as people like Paul Joyce broke more news on why TFG parted ways with him.
TFG met with Dyche to discuss the current form, but Dyche has said he's gotten all he can out of this group but would not resign, as he wanted the bonuses from his ridiculous contract. TFG felt he had "given up" and so they took the decision to not look 'soft' and decided to get rid ASAP.
You simply cannot remain as a Premier League Club when you have a Manager with that sort of attitude. It plays in completely to how toothless and spineless we've been this year. Devoid of any ideas, bar 'get yourselves in front of shots...hope Jordan Pickford saves 14 shots a game...hit it long to Ndiaye, stand around and watch him beat multiple defenders'.
He was checked out, entirely, and deservedly bulleted. I'm not with you on Moyes, either. I feel like he's Dyche without the defensive solidity. WHU were a bad watch towards the back end of last season, with an eerily similar form to us this year (2W in 11 games), felt like they relied on a lot of quality, that we don't have, to win games. And as you said, he has a lot of work to do to win Evertonians back, which will certainly never happen with myself.
However, you're definitely right about 'the grass not being greener'. Another cliché to add is, 'it's better the devil you do know, than the one you don't'. Dyche does have the prior of staying up, with this group as well, but I feel like you just cannot keep him on after what he's said.
In short; Dyche got the chop deservedly so, for his attitude and his performances, Moyes definitely isn't the answer and it feels like a sideways or backwards step, and I'm noticeably disappointed with Kevin Thelwell and TFG if this is the route they've decided to go down.
Appreciate this perspective! Who’d be your favorite to take over?
@@LyesClipsPersonally I agree with everything the OP said but I can’t see ant other alternative than DM. He got WHU into multiple European finishes, won them a trophy, and its all gone downhill since hes left
Also, he knows Everton, has been in relegation dog fights before, I do believe can get more out of this team to what we’re seeing and theres no other alternative. The other alternatives is Paulo Fonseca who personally not super impressed as a fellow Portuguese person; he’s gotten a lot of big gigs and has fallen out with ownership, players mainly everywhere he’s been, and hes been sacked by the Friedkins at Roma before so not a fit. Other than that who is there other than Moyes? Moyes is the safest pair of hands for this season there literally is no one else
Utter woke nonsense!
The manager merry go round continues
Manchester United are interested in Ronald Araujo amid strong reports the Barcelona defender could be joining Juventus
Would make sense at the start of next season, but the timing is kinda weird
It's 50-50 for me but Everton have an actual attack. Sean was so stubborn not to use Beto and Chermeti properly.
Lyes wrong as usual.
He was spot on with most apart from him saying Beto wasn't used enough. He's clearly better than DCL
Getting moyes back will be fine. Moyes has been through relegation battles before at Everton under similar circumstances.
We"ll be fine
Utter woke nonsence
The Friedkin group trying their best to get Everton in the Championship for the new season
They sacked my dawg 😢 Just for that I hope they go down
thoughts on marmoush to city?? where will he fit in🤔
not confirmed bro
Will speak on that when its confirmed🤝
Need a vid on potter to west ham
Everton play such horrible football and Dyche’s tactics are so dread. A historic club like that shouldn’t be subjected to such football year after year.
But as a Liverpool fan idc if they go down or not. I just hate watching crap football in the Prem. Send em down and bring in something new or hire someone to play better ball.
Utter woke nonsense. Winning is winning. Pretty or not
@ what winning? Lol
@@fiyin1 he’s kept them up last 2 seasons. Biiiiig trouble financially if they’re relegated the season they move into a new stadium
@@joggle0the fans kept the team up.......dyche has won 8 games in over 40......you haven't got a clue,!
@@fiyin1 Yh I’m not a fan tbh but just stating facts he’s stayed up twice in 2 years
Lyes, Everton have been relegated from the top flight just not since the 1950s
No way
Hope Graham Potter gets the best out of this West Ham side
I need Jose to coach Everton.
That flop as Roma coach 😅 that won nothing in recent years
@@dimasfaiz236Jose is done mate.
Graham potter
10 point deduction to Everton for this
Manchester United are set to be offered the chance to sign Jonathan David, whose contract at Lille will end this summer
"Graham Potter is a fantastic manager"
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Bad decision
Nonsense woke utter
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Everton should have got relegated like Parma did
Don’t worry I fix them
In ea fc
Deduct 10 points from them
This yank hasnt got a jar of glue😂
Utter woke nonsense 💀
woke nonsense
People dont even know what woke means😂😂😂😂
Woke nonsense utter
Sean Dyche would have kept them up. I think they are fucked now.
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Utter woke nonsense
Utter woke nonsense
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