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Captain: "Daniels, can you go back in time and stop the Burn?" Daniels: "No." Captain: "Why not?" Daniels: "Because the writers didn't know what my character was until the last episode." Captain: "You know, you can still send us back now. We know the cause of it and can stop it from happening." Daniels: "Nah. Temporal Prime Directive." Captain: "Captain Kirk went back in time to save the whales. Surely, we can go back to save billions of lives and save civilizations from collapsing on themselves. I'm sure everyone would agree since it affected everyone equally." Daniels: "....We threw out the technology......ummm.....for budgetary reasons." Captain: "I'm sure that one of the races would still have the technology. Surely, we can....." Daniels: "Just leave. This is the last episode, and no one cares."
They just needed to come up with some sort of in-universe scapegoat everyone in the plot needed to get rid of. e.g. The burn somehow ended up getting rid of all the annoying time travelers so it's a good thing!
Would that be Romulans mucking with the dating of our Eugenics Wars, or someone from the Terran Confederation timeline trying to preserve their own existence?
Discovery being an anomaly from the Temporal Cold War that Daniels corrects would have been a cool storyline, if the rest of the series was.. watchable. Also, why is Daniels' tech so much better on ST: Enterprise than in Discovery?
I wonder what they were actually going to have the suit man be. With the show being canceled suddenly they had to reveal the mystery and Daniels is the only option that made any sense at all and had a connection to anything. But this only further raises the ridiculousness about the loss of time travel technology because it shows that there are still people alive that know how to make it.
it still doesn't really make sense cause Daniels was not originally from the 22nd century. it makes more sense that he was the crewman we saw in the TNG movies who got recruited by Temporal agents after he successfully defended the Enterprise from the time traveling Borg drones
@@MajorGrin I get where youre coming from, but its pretty clear Daniels was pretty far from the future originally, enough to mix the genepool quite a bit, so if anything the Enterprise E was probably just an assignment as a temporal agent.
What a shocker - Discovery has a character that is yet again tied into key moments in Trek history 😂 I am actually a little sad that STD has been cured and won't be infecting Trek anymore - the vids you did were great, they are the only way you can actually survive watching this show.
WHAT THE F**K!!!! They actually use temporal wars to justify the existence of STD and Michael Burnham? It can work but it has to be written really good without insulting the original canon....but they went there and put STD in nearly all the important part of past series.... which is sign of very lazy out of touch writing.
Considering how pivotal the Enterprise keeps being for the entire universe, it'd make sense that it'd have some many time agents implanted in it to ensure it's events aren't altered.
STD could have just been a small easily ignorable footnote in trek, but they just HAD to go about time traveling all across the universe, implementing themselves in every single major event that ever happened in the universe.
I still don't understand what was the point of _DISCO_ . At first it read like it was going to be a prequel, setting up _TOS_ . But then it went all _Terminator_ with AI. And introduced _Enterprise_ under Pike's command (still easily its best character, obviously, but the bar's pretty low). Then they went to the future, and I thought "perfect! Now they can do their own thing, and don't have to worry about canon, and the rest of the timeline can also do its thing." But after all the references _Picard_ ended up doing, _DISCO_ just kept on throwing out one reference after the other like they just couldn't stop. It was like they really thought all the references in season 3 of _Picard_ actually saved it, even though the series was ending anyway, and it was _still_ horribly written and executed. And then, just to make it even more horrible, the decide to tie it into the 'Calypso' _Short Trek_ as their finale -- which was still centered on just Michael Burnham, just like the rest of the series. They should have called it _Michael Burnham: A Star Trek 'Discovery' Story_ . More people wouldn't have watched, but at least it'd have been more truthful. It was all about her, from the very beginning right to the end, after all. Shame, there was a lot of potential that got wasted. Nothing more burdensome than a character and story with potential, is there?
Cast as nothing more than Generic Grimdark Future Scifi Show (or, let's be honest given Jar Jar Abrams' involvement, "Star Wars Effects Demo Reel Show"), Discovery isn't the worst thing ever. Not good, but... yeah there's been worse. What makes it terrible is the fact that people who aren't nearly smart enough, or in possession of enough self control, are trying to put it into the context of fifty (now sixty) years of Star Trek canon.
It's a story about how crewman daniels, burnham, jet reno, and the hot tub time machine guy managed to gain absolute power over the federation. At least that's what I'd love to believe.
The sad irony is that the people who would respond to memberberries like that are long gone. The only ones left are people who think shoot-em-up crap like Star Trek Fleet Command is high art.
Archer asked Daniels if he was human. Daniels responded, "Yes. In a manner of speaking." So Daniels might be descendented from a lot of other alien species. Maybe one of them is Vulcan since they can live up to 200 years. However, since he looks human, maybe a lot of his human ancestors' genes keep him looking human. Or the 32nd century Federation's medical technology and practices have improved so much that he can live for centuries, if he chose to do that.
If McCoy could be 140 by the time of TNG and still be able to think, walk and talk, there's no reason why medicine a millennium later won't be able to extend the life of humans far beyond that of, say, Vulcans. Life extensions therapies were already known by the time of both TOS and TNG, but were crude or impractical, I guess they were able to refine them later on.
@@jonathanz.9675 Nah, it wasn't great but that show was brigaded hard. I saw more racial slurs in the trek fanbase in the last 4 years than I had in the entire 20+ years previously. Damn good thing the net was still in it's infancy when Deep Space 9 came out or we'd have never gotten past season 2 of it.
I feel like the writer that skimmed the material, legit thought crewman Daniels and the LT, were the same. How could Silik hear anything! She was whispering all the time, and had his enhanced abilities removed. Good job Burnham!
I won’t be surprised if someone in Strange New Worlds appears as another incarnation of Agent Daniels. Or a retcon of a random TOS background character. Man I love Daniels.
Michael Burnham and Asohka have the same problem....powerful women in not very believable roles.... Capt. Janeway, Seven of Nine, et al had their roles well-defined. Hell, even the Borg queen did before having a really bad day!
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"Okay, Agent Daniels, what's your first name?"
"I don't know."
Jack?
@scockery Simpsons reference. Well played. 😂
Probably Timmy
@@NitpickingNerd Timot Danlen. Nice reference 😆
It's Agent...my parents were hippies.
The Stargate clips snuck in were absolutely hilarious, thank you
and Monk at the end
Got to admit putting burnham in the forcefield as “unknown guy” was hilarious . Perfect pose forbit as wel
I think he was known in fan circles as Future Guy. It even ended up in the Memory Alpha database.
@@fishjones4618 I couldn’t remember his name u get who I was talking about
Finally, the Picard is back to bring order to the universe
Long live the Picard!!!
Captain: "Daniels, can you go back in time and stop the Burn?"
Daniels: "No."
Captain: "Why not?"
Daniels: "Because the writers didn't know what my character was until the last episode."
Captain: "You know, you can still send us back now. We know the cause of it and can stop it from happening."
Daniels: "Nah. Temporal Prime Directive."
Captain: "Captain Kirk went back in time to save the whales. Surely, we can go back to save billions of lives and save civilizations from collapsing on themselves. I'm sure everyone would agree since it affected everyone equally."
Daniels: "....We threw out the technology......ummm.....for budgetary reasons."
Captain: "I'm sure that one of the races would still have the technology. Surely, we can....."
Daniels: "Just leave. This is the last episode, and no one cares."
Or he would rather protect the integrity of the timeline...
GG
Or he is stuck in the 32nd century due to that temporal instability if he does go back in time excuse??……or lazy writing and logic
All time travel technology was banned by this time. Going back in time would start temporal cold war all over again.
They just needed to come up with some sort of in-universe scapegoat everyone in the plot needed to get rid of.
e.g. The burn somehow ended up getting rid of all the annoying time travelers so it's a good thing!
Gawd I love the enterprise theme song
The faction from 2024 is going to all other time periods, trying to destroy everything, and rewrite history!
Would that be Romulans mucking with the dating of our Eugenics Wars, or someone from the Terran Confederation timeline trying to preserve their own existence?
The USS enterprise E destroying Discovery perfect lol 🤣🤣
ONE OF YOUR BEST MASH UPS...
Give this man 2 Oscars, just in case he loses one he has another one for back up!
This is fantastic. First the image in a timestream and then at 2:20 had me breaking out in laugher. Well done.
Ready quantum torpedoes. Lock onto Discovery and *fire!*
Awfully bold for a woman named Michael to accuse somebody else's name of being fake.
Every Major Grin mashup is infinitely better than STD
Discovery being an anomaly from the Temporal Cold War that Daniels corrects would have been a cool storyline, if the rest of the series was.. watchable. Also, why is Daniels' tech so much better on ST: Enterprise than in Discovery?
Because Discovery is terrible and should be discarded like everything else from 2017 onwards (some might even say 2009 onwards, or even 2001 😆).
@@richardched6085 2009 onwards
Because it's a series and the effects improve over time. Apart from that, Discovery had more money at its disposal.
@@Connermacloud the question was why effects from 2002 were better than effects from 2024. Your answer makes no sense lol.
Enterprise going back in time to destroy discovery is a comforting head canon. Thank you.
Woman: "What are you doing?"
Ensign Hughie Boimler: "Rrriker!"
It's like poetry; it rhymes.
I loved the Monk reference!
as a friend said a few weeks ago, "Discovery isn't for anybody."
It is not for Star Trek 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody wants an STD!! LOL
Man, Agent Daniels served on 2 Enterprises. That weren’t sequential. Lucky man.
Doing Enterprise dirty at any chance they get...
This is your best work yet, sir !
So are Daniels like time james bond agents.
I love the Peter Bogdonovich guy
Some context for those who haven't seen it and absolutely never will?
Discovery even ruined Daniels. What a shame.
Is the burn related to the flux in dr who? If so the universe needs some antacid stat.
What's season 8 of Stargate doing in there 😂
I wonder what they were actually going to have the suit man be. With the show being canceled suddenly they had to reveal the mystery and Daniels is the only option that made any sense at all and had a connection to anything.
But this only further raises the ridiculousness about the loss of time travel technology because it shows that there are still people alive that know how to make it.
4:10 a CSI crossover?
Ah, the good ending
Tee Hee Brutus 🙂
Great finale, well done Enterprise!
Its Supervisor Daniels
4:40 and beyond is the best Star Trek out together in DECADES!!!( I Liked ST:P, S3 obviously)
if only
They clearly referenced Daniels from ENT....but forgot the NX-01 had not USS prefix?
it still doesn't really make sense cause Daniels was not originally from the 22nd century. it makes more sense that he was the crewman we saw in the TNG movies who got recruited by Temporal agents after he successfully defended the Enterprise from the time traveling Borg drones
@@MajorGrin I get where youre coming from, but its pretty clear Daniels was pretty far from the future originally, enough to mix the genepool quite a bit, so if anything the Enterprise E was probably just an assignment as a temporal agent.
...5:26-5:40... 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I'm guessing the maker of this video doesn't like ST Discovery. Lol
What a shocker - Discovery has a character that is yet again tied into key moments in Trek history 😂
I am actually a little sad that STD has been cured and won't be infecting Trek anymore - the vids you did were great, they are the only way you can actually survive watching this show.
Still better than Voyager!
@@groom_of_the_stools okay, you may have a point 😄
Daniels from the Enterprise-E was not Agent Daniels.
Shhh…just let it happen.
Sure. Why not make Mikey Spock Future Guy? I’m surprised they didn’t.
🙌🙌🖖😂
WHAT THE F**K!!!! They actually use temporal wars to justify the existence of STD and Michael Burnham? It can work but it has to be written really good without insulting the original canon....but they went there and put STD in nearly all the important part of past series.... which is sign of very lazy out of touch writing.
Can we pretend this show never existed? Even Picard barely gets away.
No. I loved it and am currently rewatching it from the beginning.
Picard should have gone back to the first episode of STD and destroyed the Discovery. Saved us all a lot of bad Trek. 😂😂
Never thought about that tng one before
Your knowledge, connections and library use is astounding as always.
Like so many, I too wish for a time correction.
The beach scene edit is just brilliant, I didn't realize that Dr.Culburt or whatever his name is was on the monk episode!
Ow!
He said to number 1 " BLOW THAT THING UP " the disrespect couldn't even call discovery a ship 😂🤣🖖💩
Best comment!
I refer to it as the ship that must not be named.
I kinda like the idea that Daniels are these nobodies on Enterprise working for the time agency
Considering how pivotal the Enterprise keeps being for the entire universe, it'd make sense that it'd have some many time agents implanted in it to ensure it's events aren't altered.
I mean, they pretend to like Star Trek Enterprise and still the fans hate them.
Come on! Burnham said she was sorry.
Enterprise was an obscenity - and then ironically it is the only thing even worse nuTrek considered canon.
STD could have just been a small easily ignorable footnote in trek, but they just HAD to go about time traveling all across the universe, implementing themselves in every single major event that ever happened in the universe.
That's what I'm saying!!! They knew damn well what they were doing.
They don't call it an STD for nothing.
Rewriting history w their own agendas. Sounds like Marxism
@@WarNoob755 Well, anal fans call it STD... official platforms and outlets call it DSC.
It's that modern Doctor Who crap where every season has to top itself in terms of galactic/timeline importance and/or retconning the lore.
This is one of your best! You da man!
I like the sg1 episode at the pyramids
I still don't understand what was the point of _DISCO_ . At first it read like it was going to be a prequel, setting up _TOS_ . But then it went all _Terminator_ with AI. And introduced _Enterprise_ under Pike's command (still easily its best character, obviously, but the bar's pretty low). Then they went to the future, and I thought "perfect! Now they can do their own thing, and don't have to worry about canon, and the rest of the timeline can also do its thing." But after all the references _Picard_ ended up doing, _DISCO_ just kept on throwing out one reference after the other like they just couldn't stop. It was like they really thought all the references in season 3 of _Picard_ actually saved it, even though the series was ending anyway, and it was _still_ horribly written and executed. And then, just to make it even more horrible, the decide to tie it into the 'Calypso' _Short Trek_ as their finale -- which was still centered on just Michael Burnham, just like the rest of the series.
They should have called it _Michael Burnham: A Star Trek 'Discovery' Story_ . More people wouldn't have watched, but at least it'd have been more truthful. It was all about her, from the very beginning right to the end, after all. Shame, there was a lot of potential that got wasted. Nothing more burdensome than a character and story with potential, is there?
Cast as nothing more than Generic Grimdark Future Scifi Show (or, let's be honest given Jar Jar Abrams' involvement, "Star Wars Effects Demo Reel Show"), Discovery isn't the worst thing ever. Not good, but... yeah there's been worse. What makes it terrible is the fact that people who aren't nearly smart enough, or in possession of enough self control, are trying to put it into the context of fifty (now sixty) years of Star Trek canon.
@@erikkeever3504 🚫
It's a story about how crewman daniels, burnham, jet reno, and the hot tub time machine guy managed to gain absolute power over the federation. At least that's what I'd love to believe.
They made her basically star trek jesus, made her responsible for all things good in the federation.
Its like the series was written exclusively for the main character
'Mr Sisko, I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you'
I need to give Enterprise another watching.
*You have successfully fixed Star Trek: Picard and Star Trek: Discovery....I award you one Middle-Aged Man Seal of Approval!!*
its like poetry
It rhymes on the beach….where everyone is in LA.
It is like poetry!
'I think I might've gone too far in some places.'
There _must_ be some temporal weirdness going on if we're getting a good old-fashioned Grin mashup after all these years!
I love how they know their show is disaster so trhey keep aiming to our sentiment to old charasters .They did same shit in picard .
The sad irony is that the people who would respond to memberberries like that are long gone. The only ones left are people who think shoot-em-up crap like Star Trek Fleet Command is high art.
3rd season of Picard was good (7.5/10)
@@mariooli9268 yeah?? Especialy the end where they copy star wars and death star
@@mariooli9268 👄💩
I was really surprised that they didn't find a way to shoehorn Q into this horrible series.
It seems like STD is trying to change history, and wipe out the older Trek franchises. Yikes, talk about non-art imitating life!
daniels would be 190 years old by disc season 3/5? !??!!
if he's from 3051 and assuming he was 40 at the time ... he's 3011
Archer asked Daniels if he was human. Daniels responded, "Yes. In a manner of speaking."
So Daniels might be descendented from a lot of other alien species. Maybe one of them is Vulcan since they can live up to 200 years. However, since he looks human, maybe a lot of his human ancestors' genes keep him looking human. Or the 32nd century Federation's medical technology and practices have improved so much that he can live for centuries, if he chose to do that.
If McCoy could be 140 by the time of TNG and still be able to think, walk and talk, there's no reason why medicine a millennium later won't be able to extend the life of humans far beyond that of, say, Vulcans. Life extensions therapies were already known by the time of both TOS and TNG, but were crude or impractical, I guess they were able to refine them later on.
It is hilarious that the final episode of Enterprise had better ratings than "The Acolyte" and "Discovery"
Rightfully so
@@jonathanz.9675 Nah, it wasn't great but that show was brigaded hard. I saw more racial slurs in the trek fanbase in the last 4 years than I had in the entire 20+ years previously. Damn good thing the net was still in it's infancy when Deep Space 9 came out or we'd have never gotten past season 2 of it.
Good comment @@tanepukenga1421
Enterprise wasn't behind a paywall.
Yet another element of real trek butchered by nu trek
Just ignore this crap fan fiction - STD that is.
Grim’s memes are actually enjoyable.
Enterprise was not 'real trek' it was trash. And there's some good stuff in nu trek like SNW and Lower Decks
What got me was that he was wearing GLASSES.... When they had Retnax V....."They make me look smart..." Oahkay.....
So he's not the dude from "A Matter of Time" either? Ya know I thought there could have been a connection Daniels/Kovitch...
Mulgrew at the end
I see Stargate SG1 :)
LOL
The best thing it is over 😂
"Mr. Worf destroy that thing!" Picard destroying the USS Discovery could have been the greatest moment in Star Trek history!
I think the character of Daniel’s should have been Supervisor 194, codename Gary Seven. Also with Roberta Lincoln with him.
where does that Shatner footage come from lol
I think that footage is from Tek Wars.
Guardian of forever is also Kovich.
Time travel is ALWAYS what breaks Trek.....
What is the Editing in this Video?!?!? …I love it
Is everyone allergic to Retinax in the future? WTF is he wearing glasses?
The same reason why my insurance will cover LASIK 100% and I won't get it.
Hilarious and very well done!
Discovery....it's Seinfeld but in space
I feel like the writer that skimmed the material, legit thought crewman Daniels and the LT, were the same. How could Silik hear anything! She was whispering all the time, and had his enhanced abilities removed. Good job Burnham!
Okay. This seems plausible. Totally.
Timeline screwed
He couldn't just another agent oh no he has to someone that make no sense for him to be just to make a pointless references and create plot wholes.
5:20 Oh Major Grin, you crowd pleaser ❤
I won’t be surprised if someone in Strange New Worlds appears as another incarnation of Agent Daniels. Or a retcon of a random TOS background character. Man I love Daniels.
Seriously? This is Daniels and he didnt use time travel to fix the Burn after finding out what caused it?
Thank Q Picard saved the timelines!
OK time traveler did Captain Benjamin Sisko ever return from the Celestial Temple?
Didn’t know agent Daniel’s was in stargate🤔 around 2min 38sec
Daniels said in the Enterprise series that the Temporal Cold War(s) ENDED because of Archer. Therefore all of this is BS claptrap retcon nonsense.
We needed a Generations Data fist pump after Discovery was destroyed.
Michael Burnham and Asohka have the same problem....powerful women in not very believable roles....
Capt. Janeway, Seven of Nine, et al had their roles well-defined. Hell, even the Borg queen did before having a really bad day!
Uh....... Is this real, or just a fan made vid?
This crazy video almost had me going….
They ripped that scene with the guy in the bowler hat straight from Hitchhikers guide where they first met slartybartfast.
The only thing good about STD is that it made the story of Captain Pike and Strange New Worlds possible.