You can still use test and hgh with USADA testing. You just can't be massively supraphysiological. CC told USADA he was using HGH and he didn't pop for fuck's sake.
Joe Rogan: Wow, Ryan I like your new house. Who built it? Ryan Gordan :John did. People don't know that John played with Lincoln Logs when he was a kid. He studied the angles, symmetry, and the density of the wood. Joe Rogan: Really?
Gordonson is suffering from Mr.Myagi syndrome. John is everything and anything including a mystical healer, yogi, auto mechanic, waste water cleanser ,and striking coach. And Gordon will let you know this. Often . Really often.
@@artiew8718 lol what are you even saying. idk what your point is all I know is they are bjj legends and for someone that isn't too much of an expert in bjj it impresses me. idk
Lmao Jiu Jitsu is not gonna break into the next level of professional sports. I love it, but you’re not gonna get people to watch it unless they train. They’re not gonna know what the hell is going on.
@@B1bLioPhil3 That is definitely not true. Some UFC PPVs 10-15 years ago were still doing 1M buys. Spectator BJJ is only growing because the percentage of the population that trains BJJ is growing. I'm willing to bet that 99% of FloGrappling subscribers are BJJ practitioners. Maybe 10% of people watching MMA actually train MMA.
This short piece is so amazing. It’s talks about the team over self. Gordon recognizes how much his coach has given them, so brilliantly over the past years and It’s probably something amazing that they will accomplish within the next 2-5 years. What a wise young man.
This sounds like an excuse to me. He knows butt scooting and deep half’s don’t work in a real fight. He’s just an amazing bjj guy in a real fight. This isn’t 1991.
Finn 020 in one of Joe's early spotify episodes he mentions that that he asked spotify to add a comment section just for his podcast and they wouldn't agree
It’s absolutely crazy that John teaches everything 😂 with the effort and energy he puts in to BJJ the fact he also teaches the other aspects of MMA with the same vigour is frightening😂😂
No it's not! He's got nothing on Javier Mendez or Firas Zahibi! Not my opinion, its a fact when you look at champions. Now, if we're talking bjj, that's clearly DDS territory. But their bjj won't be much when you get smashed in the face...ask Rousimar how leg locks can work against you by a wrestler that can strike.
@@jthanrubio1126 Javier only personally coaches the striking, but ofc AKA is a powerhouse of grappling/wrestling because of everyone else involved like DC, Cain Velasquez & eagles.
@@DocProcRealm True, very true...but then again if you consider the influence that Frank Shamrock & Bob Cook played, one would have to say that they were set up in a way that fostered success. After the arrival of Cung Le, Koshchek, and Fitch...the next level seen champions born out of that lion's den.
I feel GSP and firas have that kind of work ethic as a team cohesion, like gordon ryan is describing with his own team. I 100% believe that is the way to go when you have a team as amazing as ryan's, loyalty and wanting the best for your teammates only helps you get better mentally as a fighter
I was saying from a head coach kind of loyalty even though firas is the head trainer, I simply just saying regarding loyalty within teams and the fighters. It can only help if you want was it best for your fighters well being and of those coming up. GSP gives his honest opinion, even if it hurts
If a juiced top athlete manages to beat everyone in a division where all the top competitors are also on steroids, there is no reason to assume he doesn't have what it takes to compete off the juice, if the competitors are equally unenhanced.
Its fascinating to watch... the Gracie's released this martial art decades ago, and now Danaher and the death squad are at the forefront. The techniques have evolved over and over..
I could be absolutely wrong (plz correct me if wrong) but doesn’t danaher train all of them at Renzo gracies gym in Manhattan? Gracies low key still have their thumb on this shit
@@StolenPixel lol hes clearly on the 1980 body builder juice. dudes stomach went to shit cause of it. hes over here blaming antibiotics. this is why hes hesitant to go to mma. they using that designer stuff and hes still popping pills.
@@StolenPixel they using endurance based peds in mma to sustain fast twitch movements. hes taking stuff to bulk and fucked his body up. unless this man can take a hell of a punch. dont see him doing well. knowing epo and peds like that wont do anything for him.
@@vivek27789 yeah it is. im just saying the fact that it will NEVER going to break mainstream is BOLD shit to say. there is a good chance specially with guys like gordon and more ppl like him will rise. i dont mean skillset i meant being brash like conor . im watching mma from early 2000s since chuck was the main man . but it was NOTHING like what it is today.
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I Hespec it. Not the biggest fan on Gordon as a person but I like that he is more of a fan of the growth of BJJ as a commercial sport than he is of his own gain
Gordon is just as smart of a businessman as he is a jujitsu fighter- he's using the Joe Rogan podcast to call out atos and Andre galvao, for potentially the biggest jiu jitsu money fight of the decade.
You can tell that the way this kid talks, the majority of his success and dominance comes from the fact that he's a thinking fighter, not just an athletically gifted fighter.
He's really an average athlete compared to the best. He's mostly slow twitch so he doesn't have that explosiveness, he's a bit slow in his movements. He's also not ridiculously flexible or mobile. What he does have is strength and size. Tbh it makes his dominance in Jiu jitsu even more impressive.
I personally look toward his career in MMA there’s definitely a level of satisfaction to watch him get lit up standing while trying to get the takedown
"I want wait till someone can carry the flag" I don't buy this at all. Ryan is basically the most accomplished grappler ever. It's not being selfish to transition into MMA. I get the feeling he just doesn't want to, which is totally fine.
@@trash6960 That's a harsh statement, look at Ryan Hall, a guy who literally built his legacy off of Jiujitsu and made it just fine into the UFC. Most his wins are Submission or Decisions. Gordon Ryan is light years ahead in grappling, and he don't do Gi (rarely and never competes in Gi) which his no gi translates very well.
He isn’t having an mma March in OneFC anyways. It’s a grappling match with Shinya Aoki. It’s in December. One tests for steroids but athletes have modified their cycles to pass drug tests since they were first banned. Also people don’t realize how little exogenous testosterone you need and still not pop hot. Most fighters who get caught get caught because they took clomid at the end of a cycle and didn’t know they tested for clomid. People act like professional fighters are on as many anabolics as modern bodybuilders are when in reality it’s just a little extra test to keep their levels in the average to high range for what is normal. Mostly keyboard warriors who have never trained a day in their life will accuse fighters of steroids and they probably are the same people that think creatine is a steroid. PEDs will always be prevalent in any sport. If you can’t beat them join them. It levels the playing field.
The reasoning makes sense, sure. But I presume the guy is afraid of getting knocked out, of losing, of failure. Not in BJJ-but in MMA. What better way to grow the sport of BJJ than to build further a name for yourself and for your coaches in the sport of MMA to then return to put on major BJJ events with new vested interest in the sport. That would accelerate the growth of BJJ exponentially in my estimation, rather than remain doing what he’s doing. He’s done it all already. What made BJJ popular in the first place, to ever give rise to the Danaher camp at all? They can thank the Gracies, in the UFC.
I think Gordon Ryan prove himself more than enough in Submission Grappling but I think the main reason he doesn’t want to pursue MMA is because he doesn’t want to go out of his Comfort zone and you are right he is afraid of Failure. Obviously if Gordon Ryan is going to start fighting in MMA a lot of people will watch him fight and there will be Hype behind him. I also believe that he is going to win his first few matches but if he is going to fight some an elite fighter or a contender that has some Elite Wrestling background or Division 1 he is going to be toasted because there is no way that he can land a takedown on those guys and If he lose there will be a lot of criticism about him.
@@jademermaidmusic If Ben Askren and Demian Maia can have successful MMA careers then so can Gordon Ryan. I wouldn't expect him to compete for a UFC belt though if he keeps delaying the transition.
@@hellotcautiver like I said there aren't many grapplers on his lvl their take down defense won't be good enough to stop somebody like Ryan, Ryan is leagues and I mean leagues above the guys in the heavyweight division in grappling add that with a little bit of MMA training and he would do well. I m not saying his beating Francis or stipe, just saying he would do well in that division
Straight Jiu-jitsu guys have very limited success in the ufc. That's the very old days. They do well until they get to the elite level fighters and then get smoked. Who cares if he blesses mma with his presence.
I agree that being a pure Jits guy can be almost as much of a liability as an asset in elite MMA these days because the Jits guys spend so many of their best years climbing the BJJ mountain they rarely have enough time left to develop all the skills they need to make it to the top in MMA. That said, if Gordo fights in say ONE he might make some okay money. Apparently Brandon Vera was clearing over $100k a fight with ONE to beat up pretty so-so fighters. Gordo might get away with it over at ONE. Roger certainly did.
Difference is this guy trains with Danaher who is a legit MMA savant. This guy would have already been doing a lot of wrestling and Judo training and when he transitions the focus will just be on picking up striking. And while its not something he would have put a close focus on yet I would guess Danaher has already given him a thorough base in. A lot different to most Jujitsu gyms.
@@David-_-_- That's a decent point, but I'd guess with so much focus on grappling comps training for strikes etc... even the DDS wouldn't get a lot of time to do that much. And it takes about as long to get good at striking as it does to get good at BJJ for most people. Even to get good enough not to get KO'd or lose to a better striker on points, that takes a lot of specialist training. Just ask Kron "Boxing is easy" Gracie about how tough it can be to move in to a sport where most people can already out-strike you. Danaher is a legend, but even GSP had specific coaches for striking. I do agree GR is in a great gym to jump in to MMA, but he still has so so much to work on with striking and other things than Danaher won't be able to necessarily help him with.
I have heard Danaher talk recently about BJJ being on the cusp of becoming a big spectator sport. I think that's pie in the sky. BJJ as a spectator event has only ever appealed to people in the BJJ community. And even at that, only a limited number of people in that community. The only way no-gi grappling would get to become a big deal is if they introduced say, a submission wrestling event at the Olympics as part of the Wrestling program. But there's no sign of that happening. 99.999% of sports fans wouldn't watch Ryan vs Galvao if it was on their front lawn, let alone pay any sort of money to see it. There's nothing that's going to change that anytime soon. Danaher is a great coach, but BJJ becoming popular enough outside the BJJ community to become a professional sport is a pipedream.
I also don't think bjj has what it takes for broad (mma level) appeal. I appreciate it, but still skip ahead from time to time. MMA is much more accessible, dynamic, and frankly gladiatorial.
I don’t think John thinks it’ll achieve UFC-level popularity but the sport is certainly exploding. Could be a good viewer market for some streams and stuff
You are obviously new to this, I suggest you go do some research. They are not humble at all, the exact opposite actually. They are egotistical, self absorbed people at an extreme level. Just have a look at his Instagram for starters, and then proceed down the rabbit hole.
The fact that Gordon Ryan wants to wait until someone can take up the mantle of his dominance and jiu jitsu gives you the impression that they're not so much the Danaher death squad, as much as they want to be the Danaher DYNASTY squad.
never gunna happen anyways. Gordons the only guy on that team winning . Gary Nicky Nickrod ethan lose to top guys. JT routolo brothers are better. Its just because gordons so large 230lbs super fkn strong and way more technical than the big guys but also large enough to offset the little guys. IF gordon was nicky size he wuldnt be the same
I think there's more to it than just loyalty. TBH I think they all look up to John and John has said in interviews he doesn't want Gordo doing MMA as BJJ is going to become this big sport, and to be a big sport you need stars like Gordo etc... So, I think Gordo feels pressure not to let John down. I respect John but I really don't see BJJ becoming this househould sport in the next 5 years. The only people who are remotely interested in watching BJJ are the BJJ community. Now, in fairness that is a growing community but it's never going to be globally as big as say boxing or MMA. And even at that, I remember John Kavanagh talking on JRE and Kavanagh is a BJJ black belt under Matt Thornton. Both he and Joe agreed that they don't like watching BJJ comps because they find them "boring". And that's 2 well schooled black belts saying that. Danaher thinking average sport fans are going to be tuning in to watch elite level BJJ comps is unrealistic right now or even in the medium term. Especially coming out of a pandemic. Ask yourself right now, are most people going to hand over money to see Fury vs Joshua or N'Gannou vs Jones, or are they going to spend it paying to watch Ryan vs Galvao? BJJ is light years away from becoming anything other than a niche spectator sport.
This guy sounds nothing like he looks. Well spoken and highly respectful. Never followed him much, but I’m looking forward to watching the full podcast!
I can respect Gordon Ryan on being all about the team. I've heard about gyms where it's all about the individual, or kill or be killed. You don't build good gyms by being selfish! Also, I'm more impressed with John being just as good a striking coach as he is a Jiu-jitsu instructor.
This is wrong, Gordon is a notoriously bad teammate and all around complete asshole. Of course he is the best at what he does you can never take that away from him but he doesnt deserve respect for anything outside of that
really liked this clip cuz not a big fan of Gordon's "public persona" per-se, but this showed a side of him I hadn't seen before. Pretty cool. looking forward to see his transition to mma whenever that happens. I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMEONE DOMINATE MMA WITH JUI JITSU!
@@xy5844 For the same reason that GSP never told Joe until after he retired that he has an entire game built around the southpaw stance that he never had to employ, but was always in his back pocket. In the fight game there is no need to reveal hidden weapons, resources, or tactics. Surprise is a weapon.
@@dv2033 he can’t pass USADA . Bjj practitioners are some of the most juiced up people. It’s encouraged in a lot of gyms . These ufc guys would eat this man alive but if it came to bjj only , idk who can beat Gordon
@@kestermyronsoldmcmanager1273 Random, out of competition testing is how you catch people. Everything else is just noise. That's why the testing in IBJJF, NBA, NFL, bodybuilding, and most other professional sports - are a joke and more of a formality.
A breeze of fresh air into the fighting world to hear a professional of Gordon's level thinking first about the team and then about himself. I can foresee that working ... he'll crush through his MMA division when the time is right.
Such a stubborn comment you obviously have no clue about fighting, if that was the case all wrestlers and grapplers would be knocked out first round too like usman colby Ben Cormier Henry
Yes. the days of one-trick ponies in MMA are over. Unless this guy plans on spending several years on stand-up martial arts, he's gonna get KO'd. He might be able to pull a Damien Maia (or Askren) and just continually try to take people down, but Maia's not a champion, and Maia has at least some take down skills. I looked for this guy gordon's bona fides in wrestling; i don't see any. I see him doing jiu jitsu with wrestlers, so his take-down skills for MMA might even be suspect.
If you’re still complaining about spotify you’re just incompetent at this point. It’s literally still free and you can use other apps on your phone while listening to the podcast. The whole comment part is irrelevant seeing as clips are still posted on youtube and almost all the comments are about how much people hate spotify.
Spotify isn't available in some countries. And in some they haven't launched podcasts. I have premium but there are no podcast section. Sooo it's still pain in the ass and some people have right to complain.
@@pusha71 spotify has expanded to almost the entire world to the point where if spotify isn’t available in your country, spotify probably isn’t even in your consciousness let alone the JRE podcast. not being able to find podcasts is again, the result of someone being incompetent. you have to go out of your way to find it just as much as youtube.
Gordon Ryan is scared of MMA. There is no team anymore so this reason is total BS. This dude is the reason the team broke up too. No one can stand Gordon except for Danaher. Gordon would get KO’d with the quickness.
The true test of Gordon in MMA will be getting past USADA.
Naw, he signed with ONE. He'll be fine
@@mr5timewcwchamp Thats worst .
Holy moly 10 years in Muay Thai before bjj... Danaher is crazy ahead of his time
You can still use test and hgh with USADA testing. You just can't be massively supraphysiological. CC told USADA he was using HGH and he didn't pop for fuck's sake.
@Neutral blog it. Start a blog.
He’s like an anime protagonist:
“I’ll only win if my friends are winning with me”
Hehe, Im just waiting for the top anime betrayals with this guy. One of his teammates are gonna go total TJ Dillashaw vs Urijah Faber on him, lmao.
Naruto
He has friends, therefore believes in the heart of the rashguard.
Seems like he’s ducking the challenge with the perfect excuse
I was just about to say "Alright there Asta settle down"
Gordon “The real victory are the friends we made along the way” Ryan
Gordon “The real victory are the friends we slap along the way” Ryan
Hahaha his own brother left to get away from him
Nothing wrong with that
Joe Rogan: Wow, Ryan I like your new house. Who built it?
Ryan Gordan :John did. People don't know that John played with Lincoln Logs when he was a kid. He studied the angles, symmetry, and the density of the wood.
Joe Rogan: Really?
Underrated comment LMAO
🤣🤣🤣🤣
hahaha gold
Gordonson is suffering from Mr.Myagi syndrome. John is everything and anything including a mystical healer, yogi, auto mechanic, waste water cleanser ,and striking coach. And Gordon will let you know this. Often . Really often.
Joe: nice haircut btw, where did you get it?
Gordon: people dont realise this but John...
You can definitely see Danaher's influence in how Gordon speaks... his cadence, tone, facial expression (lack thereof), dry delivery.
BJJ is a cult. That's the guy that got him on roids too.
Poor guy.
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@@artiew8718 lol what are you even saying. idk what your point is all I know is they are bjj legends and for someone that isn't too much of an expert in bjj it impresses me. idk
Lmao Jiu Jitsu is not gonna break into the next level of professional sports. I love it, but you’re not gonna get people to watch it unless they train. They’re not gonna know what the hell is going on.
Disagree. It's already as popular as MMA was 10 - 15 years ago.
@@B1bLioPhil3 disagree with your disagreement
@@B1bLioPhil3 soooo? In about 15 more years it'll break into the mainstream?
@@B1bLioPhil3 That is definitely not true. Some UFC PPVs 10-15 years ago were still doing 1M buys. Spectator BJJ is only growing because the percentage of the population that trains BJJ is growing. I'm willing to bet that 99% of FloGrappling subscribers are BJJ practitioners. Maybe 10% of people watching MMA actually train MMA.
@@HawaiianLion15 Less than 10% lmao
This dude sounds like he will submit any man and explain it to them at the same time
He has been known to tell guys exactly how he is going to submit them.
Facts
Felipe Pena
Can’t take roids in mma
@@ariyayaya957 ONE CHAMPIONSHIP allows it.
This short piece is so amazing. It’s talks about the team over self. Gordon recognizes how much his coach has given them, so brilliantly over the past years and It’s probably something amazing that they will accomplish within the next 2-5 years. What a wise young man.
It’s complete bullshit. He’s one of the goats of bjj. Like other goats of bjj that transitioned to mma, he would probably be mediocre.
Didnt age well sadly. Wishing them luck this ADCC
This sounds like an excuse to me. He knows butt scooting and deep half’s don’t work in a real fight. He’s just an amazing bjj guy in a real fight. This isn’t 1991.
"You can't fight yourself"
**Tony Ferguson has entered the chat**
😂
This was pretty funny
He deals with constant nausea and gastroparesis, ends up becoming one of the best grapplers ever. Hats off to this guy
He is a junkie who takes drugs to gain an advantage. also why he will never do MMA in the UFC
Dah juice.
He’s gonna die before 40 just watch he’ll be the Boston loyd of bjj this man juices like a maniac
@@Brawler22100I think he’s off the juice now .
He doesn't have gastro he said on Lex Fridemna
It sucks that he uploads so few clips.
I got spotify, but reading the comments while listening is more fun. Wish Spotify would add comments
The unfortunate thing is they would censor the comments even more heavily than TH-cam does.
Finn 020 in one of Joe's early spotify episodes he mentions that that he asked spotify to add a comment section just for his podcast and they wouldn't agree
That’s smart they should
i doubt they would, because literally every comment would be people asking him to go back to youtube and trashing spotify
@@saaz7712 Great point.
It’s absolutely crazy that John teaches everything 😂 with the effort and energy he puts in to BJJ the fact he also teaches the other aspects of MMA with the same vigour is frightening😂😂
No it's not! He's got nothing on Javier Mendez or Firas Zahibi! Not my opinion, its a fact when you look at champions. Now, if we're talking bjj, that's clearly DDS territory. But their bjj won't be much when you get smashed in the face...ask Rousimar how leg locks can work against you by a wrestler that can strike.
@@jthanrubio1126 Javier only personally coaches the striking, but ofc AKA is a powerhouse of grappling/wrestling because of everyone else involved like DC, Cain Velasquez & eagles.
@@jthanrubio1126 aka was gifted some great grappling the transition for them athletes was easy and I'm AKA all day¡🤼♂️💯💪
@@DocProcRealm True, very true...but then again if you consider the influence that Frank Shamrock & Bob Cook played, one would have to say that they were set up in a way that fostered success. After the arrival of Cung Le, Koshchek, and Fitch...the next level seen champions born out of that lion's den.
I feel GSP and firas have that kind of work ethic as a team cohesion, like gordon ryan is describing with his own team. I 100% believe that is the way to go when you have a team as amazing as ryan's, loyalty and wanting the best for your teammates only helps you get better mentally as a fighter
They have the same lineage from Renzo Gracie
Firas has his black belt under Danaher.
GSP trains with Danaher when preparing for fights.
I was saying from a head coach kind of loyalty even though firas is the head trainer, I simply just saying regarding loyalty within teams and the fighters. It can only help if you want was it best for your fighters well being and of those coming up. GSP gives his honest opinion, even if it hurts
Outside of GSP, Firas’s track record is not impressive
I wonder how one of us bigfoots would do in MMA
One of your Brazilian cousins was a decent heavyweight for a little while
Nice to see you here bigfoot
@@tmosh55 😉😉
Ngannou vs Bigfoot
Didn’t your cousin fight Fedor in Pride?
It’s refreshing to see some focus and value given to a team philosophy.
True MMA spirit
Reminds of CKB as well.
Gordon Ryan: "John doesn't want me to go to MMA because he feels BJJ will break into that next level"
Translation: "MMA has *any* drug testing at all"
Did you hear John talk about it? Because it is exactly what he said.
If a juiced top athlete manages to beat everyone in a division where all the top competitors are also on steroids, there is no reason to assume he doesn't have what it takes to compete off the juice, if the competitors are equally unenhanced.
@@JValerianS His test levels will be fucked up for years. He would struggle now to transition to a non-juiced field.
@@oldboyengineer9794 Except the fact that these are assumptions. AND that MMA is filled with juicers.
Lol bc it is. Any pro sport is full of them
Its fascinating to watch... the Gracie's released this martial art decades ago, and now Danaher and the death squad are at the forefront. The techniques have evolved over and over..
South American Ground Karate
I could be absolutely wrong (plz correct me if wrong) but doesn’t danaher train all of them at Renzo gracies gym in Manhattan? Gracies low key still have their thumb on this shit
@@Porquemicafe They train puerto rico
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This aged like milk
I might actually visit Spotify for this one for the first time in my life.
Haha yes, that’s exactly what I did! How disappointed I was when I found there was no comment section...
@@InfoGDotG that’s the worst part
Gordon's submission grappling record is immense
his steroids also
@@IronMikeyT good steroids are awesome i hope they all have access to the best gear
@@StolenPixel yea let’s see in 20 years when these guys retire and get off the roids 🤦🏻♂️
@@StolenPixel lol hes clearly on the 1980 body builder juice. dudes stomach went to shit cause of it. hes over here blaming antibiotics. this is why hes hesitant to go to mma. they using that designer stuff and hes still popping pills.
@@StolenPixel they using endurance based peds in mma to sustain fast twitch movements. hes taking stuff to bulk and fucked his body up. unless this man can take a hell of a punch. dont see him doing well. knowing epo and peds like that wont do anything for him.
As soon as he enters the usada pool... He'll retire from MMA
Fact bro
Not natty
Idiots guarantee you ufc fighters use peds. They just do higher doses in one FC which makes it more dangerous for the fighters.
They need to send in one of those bomb disposal robots to test Gordon's sample because it is for sure going to blow up the lab lol.
Ariel Helwani interview -> Joe Rogan clip about his stomach -> This clip right here paying attention to signs of nausea
He would need to beat USADA before he could beat an MMA fighter.
There’s no USADA in Bellator and one lol
If usman can do it then why can’t he?
@@case8987 lol yes
Jiu-jitsu is never going to break into mainstream sports
everyone said this about mma in early 2000s
@@mohammadabdi9178 MMA is far more entertaining and exciting than Jiu-jitsu in general.
@@vivek27789 yeah it is. im just saying the fact that it will NEVER going to break mainstream is BOLD shit to say. there is a good chance specially with guys like gordon and more ppl like him will rise. i dont mean skillset i meant being brash like conor . im watching mma from early 2000s since chuck was the main man . but it was NOTHING like what it is today.
People watch baseball anything is possible
I agree look at wrestling
The podcast I’ve been waiting on FOREVER
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hahahaha joe’s reaction to john danaher coaching gary mma
I Hespec it. Not the biggest fan on Gordon as a person but I like that he is more of a fan of the growth of BJJ as a commercial sport than he is of his own gain
Bro he can’t compete in MMA even if he wanted to... he’s juiced up to the the max he won’t be nearly as good if he comes off them PEDs
Gordon is just as smart of a businessman as he is a jujitsu fighter- he's using the Joe Rogan podcast to call out atos and Andre galvao, for potentially the biggest jiu jitsu money fight of the decade.
Andre would get smoked
lol Andre wants no part in that
galvao v ryan= boring ass fight
N he gets $29 and a snickers for it because nobody is gonna pay to watch except Gordon’s mom
@@jeffpraterJSF that's just not true bro, these guys get their parking validated for FREE.
That “we’re very loyal to John” comment aged poorly
I like this guys attitude so much I actually wanna see what he's all about with his Jujutsu. Respect.
You won't be disappointed!
He's vicious. no other way to describe him. He and Nicky Rod. insane
The dude is a monster on the mat.
He's the goat period
If you know Jiujitsu, how do you not know Gordon Ryan?
The success speaks for itself, but man does that sound like a proper cult of personality.
Oh boy does he sniff his own farts
its magnificent, isn't it?
@Neutral ok but what has this got to do with John danaher again? 😂
@@ThatSteemBloke he just keeps reposting the same comment over and over again under everyone's comment. He's a weirdo
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Gordon is the type of guy to lecture his mother on birthing techniques as he’s being born. What an absolute Chad.
Lol!
😄
All I could see on my phone was "Will Gordon Ryan Transition.......?" Had me scared for a sec
"she"'d really be even more dominant in that division lmao
Gotta get that Gabi Garcia fight somehow......
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This really makes Rnk All Day miss Joe Rogan on TH-cam.
fuck that guy
John Danaher is the real life version of Chuck Norris jokes.
He’s got the confidence.
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and the steroids
Boy does he 🤣🤣
@Mac Mac And even if he is, its not like he'll lose his knowledge of jiujitsu when he gets off them lol
@@bryced9444 most of top bjj players are on steroids s
o what's the point
He ain’t gettin passed USADA🤣
ikr like sit your ass down boy
Is he known for PED usage?
@@mrsifu4541 yes . Look up more plates more dates he exposes tf out of Gordon and his whole gym for being on gear
@@trash6960 it's not exposing anything. Everyone already knows.
Does ONE do that?
Its cooling seeing Gordon progress over the years. He even seems to be talking more like John the older he gets haha
Eddie Bravo just felt a very human chill run up his spine....
and a bulge in his shorts
Best comment of May 2021
It's totally different when you bring ground and pound into the sphere.
You can tell that the way this kid talks, the majority of his success and dominance comes from the fact that he's a thinking fighter, not just an athletically gifted fighter.
Hes not athletically gifted but I understand what you are trying to say.
@@ahmadtahmass8941 he’s 6’3 240 and ripped, pretty athletic
muscles and low body fat ≠ athleticism
He's really an average athlete compared to the best. He's mostly slow twitch so he doesn't have that explosiveness, he's a bit slow in his movements. He's also not ridiculously flexible or mobile. What he does have is strength and size. Tbh it makes his dominance in Jiu jitsu even more impressive.
@@HashBrown99Gaming he is definitely gifted it’s not hard to see when to look at him
I personally look toward his career in MMA there’s definitely a level of satisfaction to watch him get lit up standing while trying to get the takedown
You obviously haven’t seen GT fight.
@@michaelstrong4823 or he could end up like Rodolfo with his hands. time will tell
As well as watching him shrink after getting off the PED
@@csampion9025 no testing in ONE (;
@@Bluecheccshrty or bellator. You see Lovato jr...
"I want wait till someone can carry the flag" I don't buy this at all. Ryan is basically the most accomplished grappler ever. It's not being selfish to transition into MMA. I get the feeling he just doesn't want to, which is totally fine.
His bjj legacy is great already . Anyone in the ufc can beat him . Why would he want to do that
If you follow his IG, he is like that. He wants Nicky or someone to hold the reigns, could be a mix of other things, but I don't believe he is scared.
@@trash6960 That's a harsh statement, look at Ryan Hall, a guy who literally built his legacy off of Jiujitsu and made it just fine into the UFC. Most his wins are Submission or Decisions. Gordon Ryan is light years ahead in grappling, and he don't do Gi (rarely and never competes in Gi) which his no gi translates very well.
@@returnfreedom because he sucks and is basically a 2003 level fighter who is only roids
@@artiew8718 Ok, makes sense lol. Not.
LOL at Gordon making it through USADA testing w/o getting popped.
@Mac Mac Who's hating? I haven't been able to pass a USADA test in a decade.
ONE isn't in the USADA test pool. Also no steroids - just Jesus for my brother Gordon
He isn’t having an mma March in OneFC anyways. It’s a grappling match with Shinya Aoki. It’s in December. One tests for steroids but athletes have modified their cycles to pass drug tests since they were first banned. Also people don’t realize how little exogenous testosterone you need and still not pop hot. Most fighters who get caught get caught because they took clomid at the end of a cycle and didn’t know they tested for clomid. People act like professional fighters are on as many anabolics as modern bodybuilders are when in reality it’s just a little extra test to keep their levels in the average to high range for what is normal. Mostly keyboard warriors who have never trained a day in their life will accuse fighters of steroids and they probably are the same people that think creatine is a steroid. PEDs will always be prevalent in any sport. If you can’t beat them join them. It levels the playing field.
@@moustachio334 Protein shakes are steroids
@@peterwestenthaler7954 lmao
joe definitely didnt approve of john being a striking coach
He treats his team like fellow Samurai under the same clan. John is their daimyo.
Rogan is mind blown that Danahar is teaching striking lol
and so are you
And so we are
And so am i
and so is Gordan
He coaches 401k and filing federal income tax
Post the segment where he is talking about his severe and debilitating gastroparesis so hopefully someone can help him out.
This podcast with Gordon made me download Spotify today.....
Same
Same here lol
Love this guy, I used to coach and never had a student so loyal. It's refreshing to hear.
He can be a champion in all other organization
But when UFC's USADA gets involved he gonna blow up the lab😂😂😂😂
He ain't going where USADA is that's for sure, just rolling with this guy would make you piss hot.
Wonder who'd pop for more, him or Joe🤣
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Looooool
"We have a great team cohesion. We're always looking out for one another" LOL this didn't age well.
Lol what happened?
The reasoning makes sense, sure. But I presume the guy is afraid of getting knocked out, of losing, of failure. Not in BJJ-but in MMA. What better way to grow the sport of BJJ than to build further a name for yourself and for your coaches in the sport of MMA to then return to put on major BJJ events with new vested interest in the sport. That would accelerate the growth of BJJ exponentially in my estimation, rather than remain doing what he’s doing. He’s done it all already.
What made BJJ popular in the first place, to ever give rise to the Danaher camp at all? They can thank the Gracies, in the UFC.
I think Gordon Ryan prove himself more than enough in Submission Grappling but I think the main reason he doesn’t want to pursue MMA is because he doesn’t want to go out of his Comfort zone and you are right he is afraid of Failure. Obviously if Gordon Ryan is going to start fighting in MMA a lot of people will watch him fight and there will be Hype behind him. I also believe that he is going to win his first few matches but if he is going to fight some an elite fighter or a contender that has some Elite Wrestling background or Division 1 he is going to be toasted because there is no way that he can land a takedown on those guys and If he lose there will be a lot of criticism about him.
Sounds like dude doesn’t really want to transition to mma.
Too many vitamins
USADA
The way he slapped Galvao without fear seems like he'd be a good mma fighter. Better than Dillon Danis at least
He said he’s only done white belt level striking. He’d get the shit kicked out of him in the octogon
@@jademermaidmusic nah , there aren't many grapplers on his lvl in the heavy weight division , if he trained MMA a bit more he would do pretty well
@@scientificapricot6280 that’s if he can take them down
@@jademermaidmusic If Ben Askren and Demian Maia can have successful MMA careers then so can Gordon Ryan. I wouldn't expect him to compete for a UFC belt though if he keeps delaying the transition.
@@hellotcautiver like I said there aren't many grapplers on his lvl their take down defense won't be good enough to stop somebody like Ryan, Ryan is leagues and I mean leagues above the guys in the heavyweight division in grappling add that with a little bit of MMA training and he would do well.
I m not saying his beating Francis or stipe, just saying he would do well in that division
Straight Jiu-jitsu guys have very limited success in the ufc. That's the very old days. They do well until they get to the elite level fighters and then get smoked. Who cares if he blesses mma with his presence.
I only care to see him get his a$$ handed to him. Bring him down a couple of notches
@@nickkinsella2942 well said
I agree that being a pure Jits guy can be almost as much of a liability as an asset in elite MMA these days because the Jits guys spend so many of their best years climbing the BJJ mountain they rarely have enough time left to develop all the skills they need to make it to the top in MMA.
That said, if Gordo fights in say ONE he might make some okay money. Apparently Brandon Vera was clearing over $100k a fight with ONE to beat up pretty so-so fighters. Gordo might get away with it over at ONE. Roger certainly did.
Difference is this guy trains with Danaher who is a legit MMA savant. This guy would have already been doing a lot of wrestling and Judo training and when he transitions the focus will just be on picking up striking. And while its not something he would have put a close focus on yet I would guess Danaher has already given him a thorough base in. A lot different to most Jujitsu gyms.
@@David-_-_- That's a decent point, but I'd guess with so much focus on grappling comps training for strikes etc... even the DDS wouldn't get a lot of time to do that much. And it takes about as long to get good at striking as it does to get good at BJJ for most people. Even to get good enough not to get KO'd or lose to a better striker on points, that takes a lot of specialist training. Just ask Kron "Boxing is easy" Gracie about how tough it can be to move in to a sport where most people can already out-strike you.
Danaher is a legend, but even GSP had specific coaches for striking. I do agree GR is in a great gym to jump in to MMA, but he still has so so much to work on with striking and other things than Danaher won't be able to necessarily help him with.
1:47 aged like milk
I have heard Danaher talk recently about BJJ being on the cusp of becoming a big spectator sport. I think that's pie in the sky.
BJJ as a spectator event has only ever appealed to people in the BJJ community. And even at that, only a limited number of people in that community.
The only way no-gi grappling would get to become a big deal is if they introduced say, a submission wrestling event at the Olympics as part of the Wrestling program. But there's no sign of that happening.
99.999% of sports fans wouldn't watch Ryan vs Galvao if it was on their front lawn, let alone pay any sort of money to see it. There's nothing that's going to change that anytime soon. Danaher is a great coach, but BJJ becoming popular enough outside the BJJ community to become a professional sport is a pipedream.
I also don't think bjj has what it takes for broad (mma level) appeal. I appreciate it, but still skip ahead from time to time. MMA is much more accessible, dynamic, and frankly gladiatorial.
I don’t think John thinks it’ll achieve UFC-level popularity but the sport is certainly exploding. Could be a good viewer market for some streams and stuff
Agreed.
LOL, MMA is the shit.
What an amazing way to look at life. Respect at the highest level, so humble as men and as fighters
You are obviously new to this, I suggest you go do some research. They are not humble at all, the exact opposite actually. They are egotistical, self absorbed people at an extreme level. Just have a look at his Instagram for starters, and then proceed down the rabbit hole.
@@jonoharper4729 🤫 go to bet your rambling now. Sweet dreams chat when your awake
@@jonoharper4729 look everyone, we found a hater. 🤣
This video aged like milk.
Who’s here, after half of the squad left?
The fact that Gordon Ryan wants to wait until someone can take up the mantle of his dominance and jiu jitsu gives you the impression that they're not so much the Danaher death squad, as much as they want to be the Danaher DYNASTY squad.
Reminds me of Khabib, Islam, and Abdulmanap.
never gunna happen anyways. Gordons the only guy on that team winning . Gary Nicky Nickrod ethan lose to top guys. JT routolo brothers are better. Its just because gordons so large 230lbs super fkn strong and way more technical than the big guys but also large enough to offset the little guys. IF gordon was nicky
size he wuldnt be the same
@@REXAZOR this is something all the DDS fanboys seem to forget lol
The big bad DDS is basically Gordon and a bunch of runner ups
danaher steroid squad
I think there's more to it than just loyalty. TBH I think they all look up to John and John has said in interviews he doesn't want Gordo doing MMA as BJJ is going to become this big sport, and to be a big sport you need stars like Gordo etc... So, I think Gordo feels pressure not to let John down.
I respect John but I really don't see BJJ becoming this househould sport in the next 5 years. The only people who are remotely interested in watching BJJ are the BJJ community. Now, in fairness that is a growing community but it's never going to be globally as big as say boxing or MMA.
And even at that, I remember John Kavanagh talking on JRE and Kavanagh is a BJJ black belt under Matt Thornton. Both he and Joe agreed that they don't like watching BJJ comps because they find them "boring". And that's 2 well schooled black belts saying that.
Danaher thinking average sport fans are going to be tuning in to watch elite level BJJ comps is unrealistic right now or even in the medium term. Especially coming out of a pandemic. Ask yourself right now, are most people going to hand over money to see Fury vs Joshua or N'Gannou vs Jones, or are they going to spend it paying to watch Ryan vs Galvao?
BJJ is light years away from becoming anything other than a niche spectator sport.
This guy sounds nothing like he looks. Well spoken and highly respectful. Never followed him much, but I’m looking forward to watching the full podcast!
I can respect Gordon Ryan on being all about the team. I've heard about gyms where it's all about the individual, or kill or be killed. You don't build good gyms by being selfish!
Also, I'm more impressed with John being just as good a striking coach as he is a Jiu-jitsu instructor.
This is wrong, Gordon is a notoriously bad teammate and all around complete asshole. Of course he is the best at what he does you can never take that away from him but he doesnt deserve respect for anything outside of that
I keep forgetting this dude is 25. Seems like he's 33 or some shit haha.
Roids do that to you.
Yeah he looks old and talks like an old man too.
@@agigtt he’s always talked like that lol
I'm 29 and always forget he's younger than me. He looks 33.
@@Tetratronic jealous much?
really liked this clip cuz not a big fan of Gordon's "public persona" per-se, but this showed a side of him I hadn't seen before. Pretty cool. looking forward to see his transition to mma whenever that happens. I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMEONE DOMINATE MMA WITH JUI JITSU!
Least humble humble man
When Danaher was on JRE taking about GSP Joe mentioned a few times that Danaher didn’t have any striking experience and JD never corrected him on it.
why do you think he did that?
kinda weird
"a gentleman never tells"
@@xy5844 For the same reason that GSP never told Joe until after he retired that he has an entire game built around the southpaw stance that he never had to employ, but was always in his back pocket. In the fight game there is no need to reveal hidden weapons, resources, or tactics. Surprise is a weapon.
@@hiplessboy explain the advantage of donaher keeping it a secret
Listening on spotify... Where are the god damn comments. This guy is the man
How's he gonna deal with usada? That's the question.
He will compete in ONE championship
One championship
@@youtubehatesfreespeech true, I was thinking just UFC
@@dv2033 he can’t pass USADA . Bjj practitioners are some of the most juiced up people. It’s encouraged in a lot of gyms . These ufc guys would eat this man alive but if it came to bjj only , idk who can beat Gordon
He would add personality and great talent.
“We have very good team cohesion”
This didn’t age well
What happened?
@@fellowtraveler2251 The Danaher Death Squad broke up
Roe Jogan literally malfunctions at 6:53.
Crazy watching this today knowing what happened to DDS…
Loved that subtle Atos dig around 1.35
“Very great team cohesion.” That didn’t age well 😂 Gordon’s toxicity drove them all away.
damn fr? what happened?
Do explain. You can't just make bold statements like that and leave us hanging.
This is the most, humble, honest, and badass bragging I’ve ever seen😂
He can’t go into the ufc. He would fail USADA before he even signed.
It's easy to cycle off and pass the test, people are still getting away with it in the UFC
@@cvxcfv they do random testing
@@cvxcfv tell that to Tj dillashaw. He’s just now coming back lol.
@@kestermyronsoldmcmanager1273
Random, out of competition testing is how you catch people. Everything else is just noise.
That's why the testing in IBJJF, NBA, NFL, bodybuilding, and most other professional sports - are a joke and more of a formality.
Him vs bo nikel in ufc would be crazy
1:25 TJ “Snake” Dillashaw
Thanks for posting this on TH-cam
I admire guys like Gordon Ryan.. John Danaher should get all the praise, He is a genius coach, just gifted and knows how to figure things out.
I love this guy's ethics. New Fan. 100%
A breeze of fresh air into the fighting world to hear a professional of Gordon's level thinking first about the team and then about himself. I can foresee that working ... he'll crush through his MMA division when the time is right.
I can play any other thing on Spotify as smooth as can be but not JRE... it loads and shuts down. I love you man i hope you don't get banned.
we will enjoy him getting ko in mma, a lot
yup. they slap you back in MMA.
Those monsters in one would be a problem for Gordon but wouldn’t be surprised if he choked out everyonen
He’s 25 he can learn striking stuff maybe
Damn. Finally. This will be an amazing podcast
Lovin the background❤️
Thank god!! I hated that red room of death. But I haven’t ever learned about the meanings behind the color red. (First impression on the video)
Like Dillon Danis said in Ariel's interview: "You'll never see Gordon Ryan in MMA because he won't be able to get past USADA testing."
Been looking forward to this for a long time now!!! 😊 Big fan of both!
It's not breaking through the wall anywhere close to mma. If your scared to get punched just say so homie
lol ur a clown
@@ሕያው would beat u any day in a clown outfit too homie
We have Very good team cohesion, team says “hold my beer”
Goes to mma and gets ko’d in the first round.
no
Such a stubborn comment you obviously have no clue about fighting, if that was the case all wrestlers and grapplers would be knocked out first round too like usman colby Ben Cormier Henry
@@craigd2352 Ben Askren. Lol
Yes. the days of one-trick ponies in MMA are over. Unless this guy plans on spending several years on stand-up martial arts, he's gonna get KO'd. He might be able to pull a Damien Maia (or Askren) and just continually try to take people down, but Maia's not a champion, and Maia has at least some take down skills. I looked for this guy gordon's bona fides in wrestling; i don't see any. I see him doing jiu jitsu with wrestlers, so his take-down skills for MMA might even be suspect.
@@stevestandley5571 no
Gordon is literally living an anime
Good luck with USADA bro lmao
good point about team dynamics. the right fit is critical
If you’re still complaining about spotify you’re just incompetent at this point. It’s literally still free and you can use other apps on your phone while listening to the podcast. The whole comment part is irrelevant seeing as clips are still posted on youtube and almost all the comments are about how much people hate spotify.
people just love to whine bro
Spotify isn't available in some countries. And in some they haven't launched podcasts. I have premium but there are no podcast section. Sooo it's still pain in the ass and some people have right to complain.
@@pusha71 spotify has expanded to almost the entire world to the point where if spotify isn’t available in your country, spotify probably isn’t even in your consciousness let alone the JRE podcast. not being able to find podcasts is again, the result of someone being incompetent. you have to go out of your way to find it just as much as youtube.
Gordon Ryan is scared of MMA. There is no team anymore so this reason is total BS. This dude is the reason the team broke up too. No one can stand Gordon except for Danaher. Gordon would get KO’d with the quickness.
Danaher created a style. A movement, like romanticism or idealism. Danaherism
How do we make this top comment?
I see the same work ethic and drive in Gordon Ryan that I saw in Prime Mike Tyson