Not sure if you noticed or not but there are a few of the first Doctor's companions who have very brief cameos. William Russell as the parking attendant at the BBC, Carole Ann Ford is the woman calling the kid in to watch Doctor Who, Jean Marsh and Anneke Wills are guests at Verity's leaving party. In the later series, William Hartnell did see himself very much as the protector of the show and was willing to go up against the producers. If this strategy was a help or a hinderance to the show is up to debate. Some of the dialogue is pulled straight from William Hartnell's only recorded interview after Doctor Who. The line about 'people dancing in my eyeline' is actually a quote from a Jon Pertwee outtake. He sounded a little upset but apologises to the director immediately afterwards. The crew are meant to remain as still as possible during recording otherwise it distracts the actors. I believe William Hartnell's granddaughter did write a biography of him, which is likely a source. I imagine it at least partially explains why she features so heavily in the story.
One point you look to have missed (unless it was a gag) - Sydney is referring to the UK classic (proper John Steed 😀) Avengers series not anything Marvell related...
A lot of the personal background comes from Hartnell's real life grand daughter (the child character in this), so much of it is based on real life incidents and memories - but obviously dramatised with some poetic licence.
Forgot to mention on my first comment - When I was very young I did find the daleks creepy. I am not entirely sure why, I think the lack of any kind of emotive face is probably part of it. The main reason though was the idea that they could murder anyone almost instantly. That for me, was horrific.
Did you spot Kit Connor from Heartstoppers? Also, the Dalek operators in DIoE claimed they actually had a wee down the street drains on location because of the long hours and the difficulty of removing the Dalek costume.
The first Doctor was around 450 years old when he died The second Doctor was around 500 years old when he died The third Doctor was around 750 years old when he died The fourth Doctor was around 813 years old when he died The fifth Doctor was around 900 years old when he died The sixth Doctor was around 953 years old when he died The seventh Doctor was around 1009 years old when he died The eighth Doctor was around 1720 years old when he died The war Doctor was around 2520 years old when he died The ninth Doctor was around 2620 years old when he died The tenth Doctor was around 2626 years old when he died (only alive for 6 years is mad) The eleventh Doctor was around 3820 years old when he died The twelfth Doctor was around 4014 years old when he died (mentally 4.5 billion years old) The thirteenth Doctor was around 5014 years old when she died (mentally 4.5 billion years old)
@@greenscreenfx3117 1) The Doctor always lies 2) The 8th Doctor lost some of his memories 3) It wouldn't make sense with other sources, more sources confirm The Doctor is much older than he says
12 had no recall of the instances of being in the Confession Dial whenever he was re-configured from the transmat so he was only 'mentally' as old as he would have been having done the sequence once over- in terms of his actual experience. Arguably they aren't even the Doctor any more but that would also count for any time they've used a transmat that doesn't transport actual matter rather than just data.
Hey man, when you said about directors of tv and film probably having a stressful time of it, it made me think to recommend a really interesting documentary called Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse which is about the production of Apocalypse Now and how it nearly destroyed everyone involved
It's basically true. The dramatic concessions were things like using the same actors for the BBC executives and such throughout the film. In reality , that would have been dozens of different people who would have to be explained. Combining them into a couple of characters streamlines things without affecting the overall story
I am not a great fan of Mark Gatiss scripts for Who but he plays a blinder here and it is one of the best things ever produced for Doctor Who taking on board so much of the documented history and archieve material from the show with the odd dramatic embellishments. They really worked hard in recreating actual scenes and costumes. It has very emotional memories for me as it was broadcast on the Thursday before the 50th and only three days after my mum died. People have already commented about Jessica Carney's biography of Hartnell but his wife Heather also did some interviews and may have done some early conventions. The guy who told Newman to kill Doctor Who was none other than Mark Eden or Marco Polo himself. Hartnell's replacement was South African John Wiles (65-66) who is credited on 4 stories Myth Makers, Daleks Masterplan, The Massacre and The Ark. He and Hartnell famously did not work well together and Wiles began the thoughts of getting rid of Hartnell in Celestial Toymaker but this was not undertaken by his successor Innes Lloyd until Tenth Planet.
People moan about New Who being too woke, but Doctor Who began with Verity and Waris, a woman and a gay british asian man lol. Quite progressive for the 60s.
William Hartnell had cerebrovascular disease which was probably caused by all the alcohol and cigarettes and that’s why at 58 he was more like someone of 78. Sad, very sad, glad you liked this, I think this was brilliant, I’m not sure how much is artistic licence but I think there’s a lot of truth in how this depicts the events and Hartnell’s personality. I don’t remember being scared of the Daleks, I just remember being thoroughly captivated by the concept of traveling through time and space. Dr Who had all the right elements for me as a nine year old in 1963, adventure, alien civilizations in outer space, going back in history. I’m a retired engineering draughtsman, I’ve a passion for astronomy and cosmology which could be thanks to watching this sci-fi series as a child. I’m also very interested in history, economics and socio-political issues, which again how much that’s down to the times I grew up in, my family, working in engineering or from watching the Doctor fight the likes of the Daleks and Cybermen or stories like The Savages or The War Machines. Who knows, all I know is Hartnell will always be ‘the’ Doctor for me and I’ve really enjoyed watching your take on the First Doctor. Maybe you can see why for me, a reboot of Hartnell’s Doctor played by David Bradley would tick all the boxes. Especially as since 2018 the show seems to have been going downhill, and I don’t see it getting any better. The way it’s going, I think Ncuti Gatwa is likely to be the last incarnation of the Doctor, which would be a shame.
I didn't always like Who scripts by Gatiss but- this was a labour of love and he deserves a huge pat on the back for this. Not 100% historically accurate but close enough to telll how this old show fitst started. And great to see original companions Ian, Susan, Polly & Sara (Kingdom not Smifh) given cameo roles.
Not sure if you noticed or not but there are a few of the first Doctor's companions who have very brief cameos. William Russell as the parking attendant at the BBC, Carole Ann Ford is the woman calling the kid in to watch Doctor Who, Jean Marsh and Anneke Wills are guests at Verity's leaving party.
In the later series, William Hartnell did see himself very much as the protector of the show and was willing to go up against the producers. If this strategy was a help or a hinderance to the show is up to debate.
Some of the dialogue is pulled straight from William Hartnell's only recorded interview after Doctor Who.
The line about 'people dancing in my eyeline' is actually a quote from a Jon Pertwee outtake. He sounded a little upset but apologises to the director immediately afterwards. The crew are meant to remain as still as possible during recording otherwise it distracts the actors.
I believe William Hartnell's granddaughter did write a biography of him, which is likely a source. I imagine it at least partially explains why she features so heavily in the story.
This was for the 50th in 2013 back then it was matt Smith
One point you look to have missed (unless it was a gag) - Sydney is referring to the UK classic (proper John Steed 😀) Avengers series not anything Marvell related...
I was joking don't worry lol
Oh, did you know Ridley Scott was originally commissioned to design the Daleks. But he left to study directing and so turned down the offer.
Did they reedit this to remove the Matt Smith cameo?
Yes, for the 60th. That was always the plan though. They'd insert the current Doctor every anniversary. The edit is far better this time too.
A lot of the personal background comes from Hartnell's real life grand daughter (the child character in this), so much of it is based on real life incidents and memories - but obviously dramatised with some poetic licence.
Yes - in part for the reasons you mention this was far more creepy in 1963 - plus the Nazi parallels would have been far more cogent.
Forgot to mention on my first comment - When I was very young I did find the daleks creepy. I am not entirely sure why, I think the lack of any kind of emotive face is probably part of it. The main reason though was the idea that they could murder anyone almost instantly. That for me, was horrific.
Did you spot Kit Connor from Heartstoppers? Also, the Dalek operators in DIoE claimed they actually had a wee down the street drains on location because of the long hours and the difficulty of removing the Dalek costume.
Yeah you missed Ian dressed as the security guard at the start.
The first Doctor was around 450 years old when he died
The second Doctor was around 500 years old when he died
The third Doctor was around 750 years old when he died
The fourth Doctor was around 813 years old when he died
The fifth Doctor was around 900 years old when he died
The sixth Doctor was around 953 years old when he died
The seventh Doctor was around 1009 years old when he died
The eighth Doctor was around 1720 years old when he died
The war Doctor was around 2520 years old when he died
The ninth Doctor was around 2620 years old when he died
The tenth Doctor was around 2626 years old when he died (only alive for 6 years is mad)
The eleventh Doctor was around 3820 years old when he died
The twelfth Doctor was around 4014 years old when he died (mentally 4.5 billion years old)
The thirteenth Doctor was around 5014 years old when she died (mentally 4.5 billion years old)
I mean this can't be true, the 10th doctor is quoted saying he's 906
@@greenscreenfx3117 1) The Doctor always lies
2) The 8th Doctor lost some of his memories
3) It wouldn't make sense with other sources, more sources confirm The Doctor is much older than he says
12 had no recall of the instances of being in the Confession Dial whenever he was re-configured from the transmat so he was only 'mentally' as old as he would have been having done the sequence once over- in terms of his actual experience. Arguably they aren't even the Doctor any more but that would also count for any time they've used a transmat that doesn't transport actual matter rather than just data.
@@jnielson1121 That is simply false, it is stated in and outside the show that he remembers the entire time he was in the confession dial
Hey man, when you said about directors of tv and film probably having a stressful time of it, it made me think to recommend a really interesting documentary called Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse which is about the production of Apocalypse Now and how it nearly destroyed everyone involved
Why did they remove matt from the last shot wtf
It's for the 60th with the current Doctor, aka Ncuti Gatwa.
cool reactions, thanks
It's basically true. The dramatic concessions were things like using the same actors for the BBC executives and such throughout the film. In reality , that would have been dozens of different people who would have to be explained. Combining them into a couple of characters streamlines things without affecting the overall story
Your commentary is great, just cracks me up 😂
I am not a great fan of Mark Gatiss scripts for Who but he plays a blinder here and it is one of the best things ever produced for Doctor Who taking on board so much of the documented history and archieve material from the show with the odd dramatic embellishments. They really worked hard in recreating actual scenes and costumes. It has very emotional memories for me as it was broadcast on the Thursday before the 50th and only three days after my mum died. People have already commented about Jessica Carney's biography of Hartnell but his wife Heather also did some interviews and may have done some early conventions. The guy who told Newman to kill Doctor Who was none other than Mark Eden or Marco Polo himself. Hartnell's replacement was South African John Wiles (65-66) who is credited on 4 stories Myth Makers, Daleks Masterplan, The Massacre and The Ark. He and Hartnell famously did not work well together and Wiles began the thoughts of getting rid of Hartnell in Celestial Toymaker but this was not undertaken by his successor Innes Lloyd until Tenth Planet.
People moan about New Who being too woke, but Doctor Who began with Verity and Waris, a woman and a gay british asian man lol. Quite progressive for the 60s.
But they didn't ram it down your throat at every opportunity.
@@projectdalekmark true, it does get annoying. lol
Great reaction this is a fantastic special
Oh this is the bad version is all the Unearthly Child stuff edited out and Gatwa replacing Matt Smith
William Hartnell had cerebrovascular disease which was probably caused by all the alcohol and cigarettes and that’s why at 58 he was more like someone of 78. Sad, very sad, glad you liked this, I think this was brilliant, I’m not sure how much is artistic licence but I think there’s a lot of truth in how this depicts the events and Hartnell’s personality. I don’t remember being scared of the Daleks, I just remember being thoroughly captivated by the concept of traveling through time and space. Dr Who had all the right elements for me as a nine year old in 1963, adventure, alien civilizations in outer space, going back in history. I’m a retired engineering draughtsman, I’ve a passion for astronomy and cosmology which could be thanks to watching this sci-fi series as a child. I’m also very interested in history, economics and socio-political issues, which again how much that’s down to the times I grew up in, my family, working in engineering or from watching the Doctor fight the likes of the Daleks and Cybermen or stories like The Savages or The War Machines. Who knows, all I know is Hartnell will always be ‘the’ Doctor for me and I’ve really enjoyed watching your take on the First Doctor. Maybe you can see why for me, a reboot of Hartnell’s Doctor played by David Bradley would tick all the boxes. Especially as since 2018 the show seems to have been going downhill, and I don’t see it getting any better. The way it’s going, I think Ncuti Gatwa is likely to be the last incarnation of the Doctor, which would be a shame.
I didn't always like Who scripts by Gatiss but- this was a labour of love and he deserves a huge pat on the back for this. Not 100% historically accurate but close enough to telll how this old show fitst started. And great to see original companions Ian, Susan, Polly & Sara (Kingdom not Smifh) given cameo roles.
I think Gatiss gets the (pardon the phrase) emotional truth of the piece right. By far the best Who-related script he ever wrote.
The REAL Avengers, not something from MARVEL!
Great! It is very interesting to see your detailed reaction to the film Robocop 1987. This is a cool movie 👍🔥🦾