I immediately thought "My Father is greater than I" to mean "If you think I'm so good, wait until you see what the Father has dominion over." It's like if you have someone over for dinner, and they say "This was amazing!" And you respond with "Wait until we bring out the dessert." There is no claim that the dinner was bad or unenjoyable. It's simply stating that there is more to come, and it will be even better. So I immediately thought Jesus was really saying "You have no idea how truly amazing God in Heaven is."
I've always learnt that the reason Jesus said it was because he relinquished his throne and heavenly glory to dwell amongst men. So while Jesus was here, dwelling amongst us, the Father who was still in Heaven maintains a seat on the throne and therefore at the time Jesus said what he said, the Father deserved all glory and praise. Once Jesus died and ressurected, he reclaimed the throne and glory that he had in eternity past and is now as great as the Father. That's how I first interpreted it.
@@mikefun7482 We can see evidence of Jesus relinquishing the heavenly glory temporarily, by what happens when individuals do see it. In Exodus Moses goes up to mount Sinai, and sees God, but all the Israelites are afraid, saying "But let not God speak with us, lest we die". God even commands that none go up to the mountain, as the power and glory is so powerful and overwhelming, it will likely destroy any who are not worthy. I've done some research, and it seems any time a prophet has seen God, they're transfigured first, because of this reason. It's just too much for a normal mortal frame. So Jesus saying "God is greater" could also be a reference to Jesus taking a fallen form as man, while God remains in His glory, as if to say "I have sacrificed some of my glory to redeem you. God has not."
I've got one for you: In Acts chapter 3, Peter tells the men of Israel that they "killed the Author of life," which no one can confuse - Peter is referring to Jesus. Likewise, no one doubts that the Author of life is God. If God is the Author of life, but Peter is calling Jesus the Author of life, then who did Peter (Jesus' best buddy, as Bart Ehrman puts it) really think about Jesus' deity? You know, the guys who walked and talked with Jesus every day and went on to die for Him.
The translators are writing your doctrine into the text. ἀρχηγός is the original word. It literally means "the first leader." The connotation is more like "the one at the head of the procession." You know how this video is saying that "greater" actually just means "higher in rank"? This word actually means "highest in rank." 😅
@@fluffysheap Funnily enough God literally means "The Most High" or "All Mighty" but notice that Christ was never called the Most High, but the Son of the Most High meaning 2 different beings are being referred to, not one.
Christ is God and the Author of life but the word could, possibly, not probably, mean "prince" or "ruler" or the like which even some Unitarians could assent to. They'd be wrong; Luke obviously believed Jesus was God, but that verse cannot be the main indicator of that. It can be accurately stated that Luke knew and endorsed Paul who called Jesus God, the Creator of everything, the God Who led Israel through the wilderness. Furthermore, he took from Matthew who almost directly called Jesus "Yahweh" (or rather quoted Jesus calling Himself "Yahweh") with the "Lord, Lord" saying. Mark implied Jesus is "Yahweh" with Jesus taking the place of the LORD in "Prepare the way of the LORD, make his paths straight."
@@cyanara5523they’re two different persons. Just like when Moses was face to face with God with the Angel of the Lord appearing in the bush, but the Most High never left Heaven.
@@joshuagroh7958 WRONG. He is the Father. He said so himself. “I and my Father are one.” God is not a hivemind. The Holy Trinity is also the image that God made man in. MIND, BODY, SPIRIT. FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT. When Jesus says “My Father is greater than I”, what he is really saying is “My mind is greater than my body”. The Trinity is MIND, BODY, SPIRIT, not three minds, a body that belongs to one mind, and a spirit that belongs to another mind. God is not a hivemind, He is ONE.
@@joshuaoliva1288 I urge you to read Genesis actually, and not take it so literally. Genesis is true, just not LITERALLY. God did not make the entire universe in six 24 hour days. The Trinity is MIND, BODY, and SPIRIT.
@@samuellowekey9271 Can't God forgive sins without this vulgar story of sending his Son to die? And what sins are you talking about, are simple sins considered sins? For all this worry about sending his son to suffer and die ،God is bigger than this
@@DrM-j8c There is a lot we don't know about religion. Why did Jesus need to suffer and die for our sins? We don't know. But we know that was the only way. But we do know why God couldn't just forgive our sins. God operates by the rules and laws of the universe, whether pre-existing, or created by God, it doesn't matter. What matters is God abides by them. This is why God fulfills His promises. God says He is bound when we fulfill our part, because God operates on rules and laws that require Him to fulfill them. If God breaks a promise, as God says Himself, He would cease to be God. Just forgiving our sins would break some law of the universe, specifically the law of justice. This is how we know it's impossible to just forgive our sins, it's clearly stated the laws of justice would be broken. But how does Jesus atoning for our sins not break that law? I don't know. But that's where I decide to make a leap of faith, and believe in something I don't fully understand. God cannot lie. So when God says Jesus died so I can repent, and that it was the only way, it's the truth.
That is one way to take it. I personally think the authority aspect is more compelling, as He came to live his life in accordance with the will of the Father and to be sacrificed in obedience to the Father. The same verse can mean many things at the same time. Sometimes it's hard keeping track, so take notes! :)
God The Father exists as a heavenly being and Jesus is how God exists as a worldly being. By taking up worldly traits Jesus lessens himself to the Father in Heaven.
Since Jesus was 100% man and 100% God, our Lord choose on his own to submit to the Father like any other man. We can see in revelations that finally our Lord will be king and return to deliver the kingdom while the Father will make the judgment
Don't mean to be rude by this but I'd substitute your language of "100% man and 100% God, with "truly man and truly God." Just because when you say 100% man and 100% God to anyone not Christian, they fixate on the math of 100% + 100%
@@CoryWillis I understand your reasoning, but I phrase it like that because of His dual nature. No offense taken brother, it adds 200%, something not mathematically correct, but the message was meant for good
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@@m-vg1dr That's not what that means. You can look up a TH-cam video further explaining it, but basically, it's just these people came up to him and tried to get on good terms with Jesus, but he knew their heart. Because they didn't believe he was God, so he was trying to prove a point to them.
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3:52 I understood it as a reference to the name God tells Moses "I am that I am" shortened to "I am". There's actually a really cool animation about it on TH-cam called: I Am (Bible Anime)
Many people confuse equality with sameness, and confuse authority with value. I am equal to my husband in worth, but not in authority. Jesus is under the Father's authority, but is equally God.
@@Arcticmaster1190 I heard a priest from say that he did not say I am God because He will be killed by the Jews if he said that! And what happened in the end، He didn't say and was killed with that!!😭
Amen! InspiringPhilosophy gives a very similar description and explanation, how the Father and Son are of the same nature and substance, but the Father is the head of the Trinity. He is ranked higher in authority in regard to the Trinity, not in existence and nature.
All the evidence you need is in Zechariah 12:1 - 10. If you read it in context, the Lord is speaking (God the Father) to Israel and begins by confirming that HE (the Lord) is indeed the creator of the heavens and earth, and humanity. Now, at verse 12, The Lord says, "They will look on me, the one they have pierced...." Now, who was pierced? It wasn't the Father, nor the Holy Spirit. You get one guess....
In proverbs the knowledge of God is speaking that He is with the creator of the universe being an architect. Yeshua is the will of Adonai, or, the memra (word). Everything the Father commands the Son does. If God himself would come to be tempted by his own creation, He wouldn't be God.
@@Bolaway What did Jesus mean in John 17 when He said "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." John 17:5. Either Jesus was a blaphemer and a liar or He was with the Father before the creation, and the Bible clearly states that before creation there was only God
I love zachariach 8 where God says that during mesajah times HE will come to Israel. Also in 8:14-15 explains why God is more "nice" than in older testament lol
@@TownBiness97 He was talking about his postion as Prime, among God's sons. He was the "only begotten". Proverbs, mentioned by @Boloway actually helps you understand. Proberbs 8:22, 23 talks about something that was before the works of old. The hebrew word "possessed me" actually means "produced me", "formed", "brought me forth", "constituted me" (NIV, Rotherham, NLV, NIRV). The Septuagint and the Targum both clearly show the meaning of tne words. Even more so, the context, helps us, as in verse 23 any translation (ASV, KJV) says "set up" and in 25 it says "I was brought forth", then in 30 it says "I was BY him", It doesn't say "I was He" or "I was him" or "I was in him". And if any clarification is needed, it continues "as a master worman" (words used for a chief apprentice) and again it says "I was daily in HIS delight". Nowhere does is say "we delighted in" or "we were". It's always the idea of 2 persons, enjoying eachother's company and what they accomplish. However, all the verses suggest that the Mind and power behind what was being accomplished was first and foremost "Him" (the other) - "he made", "he gave", "he established" (verses 27, 28, 29). And again we find a difference in personnage, as in 31 Earth is called: "HIS habitable Earth" just to be followed by "and MY delight was with the sons of man". Evidence that this is the correct undersanding is offered by the fact that Mark, Luke, John and Paul all quote from the Septuagint, so for them, it was an accurate and reliable translation of the hebrew Scriptures and Septuagint emphasizes the words "formed" and "produced me" in verse 22. Now, some in the past were tempted to argue that the wisdom is here symbolic and so on. But they forget 3 things: 1. both the context, and the rest of the Scriptures clearly indicate that here is not just a personification of the quality of Wisdom, but also a reference to a real person (a careful read of Proverbs 8, as well as the expression in verse 24, "brought forth", which literally means "brought forth as in pains of labour", and expressions like "as the beginning" or "in the beginning" of his works, 1 Corinthians 1:24; Colossians 2:3.) How could wisdom have any beginning? Wasn't God always wise? Isn't this quality part of his eternal mind? It would rather be strange and unique to have this quality talking like that and presented as that, but no other quality ever 'speaks' again in the Bible, not even love. Interestingly enough, Christ is called "The wisdom of God", "The power of God" and "the Word of God". Besides the pronouns used "of" which implies a *something* belonging to another someone... Christ is never called "The Love of God". Even though, this is presented as being the "greatest" quality. About the Almighty, God Almighty, the Father, it is said "God is love", though. Interesting, no? 2. The Christians of the first 3 centuries understood Proberbs 8:22-31 as relating to Chirst. They also noticed similar wording (related to Christ before his human existence) used in passages such as Matthew 19:4-6 ("HE made them"); John 1:3; 6:57; Colossians 1:15; Re 1:1; 3:14. 3. The same people who tried to argue Proverbs 8 is just a way to talk about wisdom as a quality and that here we find just an anthropomorphism (talking about something inanimate as something with human characteristics), they are usually the same people who argue that when the holy Spirit is said to act as if "hearing", "grieving" and so on, there they use such expressions to suggest we have a third person of the Trinity. Even when, the very context shows "the spirit" is "of God" and that God, the Father is actually the one grieving or doing something by use of his Spirit. (Compare Exodus 8:19, 31:16; Luke 11:20 with Psalm 33:6, where the same word "spirit": 'ruach |hebrew| or 'pneúma |greek| is used but translated as "breath" by some). So, when the spirit is said to act in a very 'human' way, it's to be understood literally, as being a new person (even if never ever in a vision 3 divine persons where seen in Heavens, always just 2: God, Father and to His right, Chirst). But when the Scriptures clearly indicate that Chirst before human exits is suggested in Proverbs 8, then we need not to bother. :))
6:49 Proving that the Filioque clause shouldn’t exist. The Holy Spirit comes from ONLY the Father because of his higher position. Edit: However, I still love my Roman catholic brethren. God bless us all. ☦️❤️✝️
thank you very very much about this. I haven't fully read the Bible and thanks for showing me the John 14:12 verse. It really helps me picture the whole thing
More than belief, you need FAITH. Belief comes from intellect and logic, Faith comes from your Spirit. Logic can never combat Faith because Faith comes from inherent truths that are embedded in our Spirit and in our very essence, our DNA. 🖤
Jesus is the perfect son, and he was sent to not only save us, but to show us what the perfect child of GOD looks like. We can only know perfection in human form while looking to Christ as our example. GOD Bless! ❤️
I don't see why anyone thinks "what's 1+1+1" is a gotcha. Yes, 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, it's literally the "tri" in "trinity" meaning 3. *Tri* nitarian *mono* theism: 3 persons, 1 god.
@@redschannel6527 You can try that, but they'll just keep spamming the question until you directly answer it. Say that 3 is literally in the word "trinity," so we've been saying 1+1+1 = 3 since before Mohammad was born.
About how if someone's position is lesser, does not mean they are lesser in essence or being. That could apply to life, if someone is poorer, homeless or not as famous or whatever, it doesn't mean they are lesser in essence.
1. Jesus Christ doesn't say he is God, he says that he is the beginning and the end, possibly hinting at being given immense power to manipulate the physics within universe, as he can be timeless, God can be out of all dimensions, Jesus is just out of this dimension and God (the Father) can remove this power when he wants to. 2. The word mentioned as God, is as owner or guide, look at the message, he says that God who is bigger than me has given me an advantage and I who am bigger than you give you an advantage so give to those who you are bigger than. 3. The will and the objectives and goals are the same, as Jesus is fully obedient of the Father who is the only God based on Luke 18:19 he denies himself as God. 4. Again, before Abraham, meaning God has given Jesus powers to manipulate time, why would God need to be born out of a human? Think about it. 5. He says on God's right hand, not exactly God. 6. Again the Christ was given immense privilege and power over the laws as God trusts him. 7. People called him God, he never said anything about himself being God, he is just the son, the Christ. 8. The Christ was given enough power by the LORD, his will is the same as the LORD, so the LORD would be giving the same reasons as Jesus. 10. Literally says that the throne was given to him and he didn't have it naturally. Given to him! I am not tagged by any religions, I know a singular God who has made Jesus Christ and has made messiahs alongside Jesus, and clearly you must strengthen your mind as you can easily be deceived if you perceived Jesus as God while reading the bible. The description of God in Ezekiel and Exodus are different from the description of Jesus Christ in the Book Of Revelation! Don't make God sad.
@@m-vg1dr Thank you for your wisdom. You seem to read scripture with little or no distortion. Even so, I try to remain perpetually humble to the true meaning of scripture, the FULL Truth of which is still unknown to me. Humility is frequently a struggle to maintain, but when Utter Humility is reached, the Heavens open and Miracles occur. There can be no greater *_Proof of God._* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Revelation 22:13 - "On the east were three gates, and on the north three gates, and on the south three gates, and on the west three gates" This doesn't prove anything. John 13:14 - "Therefore, if I, the Lord and Teacher, washed your feet, you also should wash the feet of one another." - Jesus says he is lord over us and the earth he doesn't say he's God. God has appointed Jesus to rule over us and earth. John 10:30 - "I and the Father are one.” As in a part of each other, not literally the exact same. This is the same as when God says man and woman are one. Man and woman are separate entities but are a part of each other, just as a son is a part of his father, Jesus is a part of God. John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been." Yeah Jesus was created before Abraham, and before Jesus there was God. This doesn't prove anything. I could go on but this is enough. The simple answer is that Jesus isn't God, he's God's son as clearly stated multiple times in John 5:18, John 17:3, John 6:38, John 7:16, and most importantly, Luke 3:21, 22, when Jesus is being baptized the heavens literally open before them and God speaks to Jesus and says "“You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.”
@@fuel_ethanol4020 I understand most of what you wrote, but the you said, "The simple answer is that Jesus is God,..." in your last paragraph, seeming contradicting what you wrote earlier. I agree that when Christ said, "I and the Father are one," he was not claiming identity, but harmony. And what some Trinitarians don't realize when they call upon that verse to "prove" Jesus is God, they do not realize that they are making Jesus into the Father!!! Oh, the irony! 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
I am grateful that the Lord showed me this video because a similar question popped into my head. In the Agony in the Garden, Jesus said, "Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me; still, not my will but yours be done." I wondered how The Father and The Son could have different wills and why Jesus had to ask for the Father's permission. And why was Jesus still worried even though he would've already known this moment since before creation? Could Jesus have altered his future? The Son must be obedient to the Father because Jesus did carry out the Father's will. But I don't know if there was ever a moment where they had different wills but the Father did what the Son wanted. The video explains why the Son isn't necessarily inferior and the Father isn't superior as God but I still am not sure about what was going on at the Agony in the Garden. I'm young, just so you know. God bless.
Jesus was absolutely willing to go through with it. I think Him asking "take this cup from me" just demonstrates how painful the atonement was. Jesus knew about this moment from the beginning. He knew He had to do it, and while it's not entirely clear if He could have altered the series of events, God knew it would happen. As for God and Jesus having different wills, I don't believe they did. The pain of the atonement was simply so immense, that even God hesitated to fulfill it. But He went through with it. Because that's how much God loves us.
Jesus also says, “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.” John 10:18 Jesus chose this path, but at the moment he was also human. I think the prayer in the garden was a reflection of his humanity. No one likes pain
@@user-o7e-h5h Because Jesus is fully God and fully man, He has a divine will and a human will. Jesus’ divine will is identical to the Father’s will because they are both God. Jesus’ human will is perfectly submitted to the Father’s will because that is how humans should act towards God. When Jesus said “not My will, but Yours be done”, He was submitting His human will (which was desperately wishing to avoid the suffering He was about to experience) to the Father’s divine will.
There are many ways too interpret this 1) Jesus is saying that the Father does even MORE works than the son. No contradiction to the Trinity. 2) Think of your household. Your father has a higher order on the hierarchy than you. Does that make you less human? No.
Trinity was created in fourth century. Jews usually don't believe in it. A good video for you to watch is the Ariel Cohen Alloro speaking about this concept in Kabbalah. He believes in Yeshua and teaches Kabbalah in Israel. Trinity is garbage. The concept is even deeper than you guys can imagine. Yeshua is not the Father, because He needed the Father to resurrect him. Leave the translations and go study the original biblical thinking. The Jewish.
@@davidmathews9633 But are you God? Why do you put a limitation on the one who created you? He is outside space time and creation You are 1 person and 1 being He is 3 persons in 1 being
I am the son of my father, and I work at his company, he is greater than me (his office as CEO), but that does not mean he is more human than I am. We are both equally human. Jesus is talking about His Father's office, not His being or nature.
@@nizarnor5763 No one would ever conclude I am my father by virtue of me being his son. Likewise, no Christian believes that Jesus is the Father; Jesus is the Son of the Father, and thus, shares the nature of his Father (the nature of God). Like father, like son! Sura 43:81 "Had the Beneficent God really had a son, I would certainly have been the first one to worship him." Even Muhammad recognized that if God really has a son, then the son must be worshipped. So Christians are right to worship Jesus, as they believe Jesus truly is the Son of God. The Quran confirms that Muhammad himself would have worshipped Jesus, if Muhammad knew that Jesus was God's Son. Unfortunately, the angel who revealed the Quran to Muhammad tricked him, as the Bible warned us: 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
@@VFXShawn That's incredibly sad because elsewhere in the quran it berates Christians for not obeying the Gospel and tells them to follow it. I can only conclude that Muhammed did not know what the Christian text actually said because it clearly tells us God has a Son.
@@hermanwooster8944 Muhammad and Muslims believe in a fictional version of a non-existent book called "the injeel", which they believe "Allah" gave to "Isa", but have never been able to produce a single copy or verse from it. This is a religious belief but not based on manuscripts or any facts of history. This "injeel", or gospel, to the surprise of both Muhammad and Muslims, is not a book given to Jesus, but the story about Jesus and His accomplishments (his death and resurrection to defeat sin and death), handed down by those who lived with Christ for 3 years (his 12 disciples). Muhammad never read the "injeel" or the New Testament, and so, Muslims follow this example of illiteracy and have no clue what the "injeel" actually said. Yes, the gospel says Jesus is the Son of God, as does the Old Testament, which they also do not read (1 Chronicles 28:6, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 9:6). It is very sad indeed.
True, but they have the Same authority in all of the Dominion. Its like this, in the Old Roman Republic, their used to be 2 Consuls, both a Father and a Son that have the same position. They have the same power, but the Son understood that he had a different authority, cause his Father had the same authority with him, so he is following his orders as well.
Monarchical Trinitarianism is the answer. Monarchical Trinitarianism: (a) There are three entities within the Trinity: the Father, the Son and the Spirit, each of whom share one divine nature and thus are each equally termed ‘God’ (in the predicative sense). (b) The one ‘God’ (in the nominal sense) is numerically identical to one of the entities: the Father, who is the sole ultimate source of the Son and the Spirit
@@DrM-j8c The clear affirmation that The Father is numerically identical to "The God" in the nominal sense comes from many passages. One for example: John 17:3-5
That is why when Jesus said “only my father knows the hour” It simply means it’s the father that will decide whenever the hour has come It’s not a predetermined date It’s just whenever the father decides It’s that simple
Only one small quip: μείζων never is used to describe one being greater in nature. Rather κρείσσων describes being greater in nature. The rest is spot on! Great job!!!😊😊
The way I always see that is that Jesus set himself as an example of how we should be. So when he refers to God the father as greater he is not saying I'm not God cause my father is greater. Rather he shows how we should see God. Setting an example for us. Plus above that like someone in the comments said it is like saying if you think what I have shown is amazing wait till you see heaven.
Peace be with you. Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Jesus not deny who he was, he just tell the truth because he is the truth.
And every verse to which you refer can also be interpreted to mean that he is NOT God. Yet there are numerous verses which are not so ambiguous, declaring that Christ is a servant OF God; a mediator BETWEEN God and man; and not "Good" like God is. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@@Dizerner Christ declared this in Mark 10.18: *_And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone_* (Mark 10.18, ESV). In other words, Christ is lower than God, and not Perfectly Good as is the Father in Heaven. He is THE mediator between God and man. *_For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus_* (1 Timothy 2.5). How can so many people *_mangle_* this verse, contorting it like a pretzel to mean something else? Such evil is only possible when the *_Father of Lies_* convinces people, like he did Eve, that their minds are perfect in their certainty. I am here to proclaim that ONLY God Almighty is perfect. Not Christ, and certainly NOT me. Christ is the blessed one, chosen by God. God did not chose God!!! As difficult as it is (and I've struggled for 74 years), humility is the proper lifestyle choice. Claiming to know Truth, without being in Heaven with the angels, is arrogance. I have seen pieces of Truth and still don't fully understand them, asking for, and receiving dozens of Miracles. So, how can anyone who has not had God's ear for such Miracles proclaim to know God's FULL Truth? I have so much MORE to learn; too many Christians proclaim or imply that they don't need to learn more. ALL knowledge on this side of Heaven is suspect. We need to keep asking God, "Lord, what else do I need to learn?" 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
but we know he never claimed to be the father. in fact, Jesus has no idea when he is coming back. he also has his own will he chooses not to follow. "Not my will be done". being one with something does not mean you are the same thing. an animal is one with nature, but an animal in itself is not nature. at one with something means you are aligned with and doing the will of what you are one with. i have not read enough to identify if he is any more than what a perfect human without sin would be, but being one with someone does not make it you
4:25 people focus on the "I and the father are one" bit and argue that Jesus was just saying something like he has a close relationship with God, but notice how he also says "I give them eternal life" As in he is the one taking credit for their eternal life. I also cant help but notice a lot of the arguments used are also the same arguments that some spiritualists use to argue that we are all god.
No. You have it wrong. After the Jews picked up stones accusing Jesus of making Himself a god, Jesus quoted the Psalms when it says, I said, 'You are gods,' and if that's in the Scripture, and the Scripture can't be broken, then why accuse Him of blasphemy because He said He's God's Son? Think about it. If you justified someone for robbing a person, then why would you indite another person for borrowing something? When Jesus says He and God are one, He's talking about being in sync- one mind, one in message, and one in purpose, not that He's God. If not, then why does Jesus say He wants all us believers to be one, and for us to be one in Jesus and God in John 17:20-21? Are we then supposed to be God? Or does it mean we should be one with God in message and purpose? Jesus says similarly of Himself when He says that He speaks what God commands Him to say in John 12:49-50.
Matthew 1:23 NLT [23] “Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means ‘God is with us.’” What do you think of this?
@josiahserrano6651 In order to explain this, I think it's good to give context. Not everything Jesus fulfilled are direct Messianic prophecies. For example, in Matthew 2:14, where it says that He fulfilled, "Out of Egypt, I called My Son," the verse in Hosea that it draws from is talking about Israel. So the fulfillment is to say that Jesus is taking the place of Israel, who is called God's son in Exodus 4:22. Another way Jesus fulfills is history repeating itself. As it was in such a time when such a Prophet spoke, so it was in Jesus's time on earth. This is what it means, for example, when it says the words of the Prophets was fulfilled when Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver and the money was given to the potter in Matthew 27:9-10. Now, we get to Isaiah 7:14. In Isaiah, King Ahaz's kingdom of Judah was being attacked by Israel and Syria. Isaiah prophesied that a young woman would give birth to a child called Immanuel, and before he was old enough to know good or bad, Syria and Israel will be forsaken by both their kings. In other words, that child was a sign that God was with Judah to save them. This is similar to Jesus. His presence was a sign from God that God was with Israel to save them. Hence, "God with us." Matthew 1:21 NKJV [21] And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” Hopefully, that makes sense.
0:53 That's the point they say that he said father is greater than i, as in he is a prophet and the father is god and it's logical that god is greater than a prophet, but what doesn't make sense is how he says that the human version is less greater than him when they're the same person
This is the Eastern Orthodox doctrine of the Monarchy of the Father. Even if this accurate, it doesn't negate Jesus being fully God as the Second Person of the Godhead. Jesus receives worship, as only the Father does. That should settle the whole question of Who He Is.
It does though. Jesus says himself that there is only one God, not three, and not three in one, and it's not him. The trinity is a belief created by a misunderstanding of what the Bible says, and flat out ignoring the parts that disprove it. The trinity is pantheism.
@@88Padillaplease, read the Bible again, in full context re read the parts that “disprove” the trinity. Pantheism would be us saying there are 3 Gods, there is only one, same way every human has 3 parts (mind body spirit) but is still one entity No disrespect
@@UnidentifiedFlyingSquirrel if there's only one entity, then there's only one entity. God is a spiritual being. There is no "mind body." Only spirit. God the father and spirit instructed Jesus what to do. That doesn't mean Jesus is God. Just like God spoke through the burning bush in the old testament, but God is not a burning bush. There is only one, not three. Nowhere in the bible does it say God is three in one. It's a belief created by misunderstanding.
Time-stamps 1:27, 1:53 - Matthew 11:11, is John the Baptist more human than everybody else? John 13:16, this doesn’t mean the slave or messenger is less human. John 14:12, doesn’t mean that the disciples would be greater miracle workers, but that they would reach more people. Greater in quantity, not quality. 2:16 - John 14:13-14 implies the omni-attributes. 2:47 - John 14:23, same presence as the Father. 3:40 - John 13:19 and Isaiah 43:10 4:10 - John 5:18 and John 10:27-30 4:57 - Isaiah 43:13 and John 10 6:53 - Conclusion 7:01 - King and peasant analogy
@@TestifyApologetics yep twice in two weeks. 24hr hate speech ban. Had to be them from here. No other options. Still love your content just wanted people to know before they engage with certain people what the likely outcome is
But lets see what the Bible says: Mark 12:29 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord: 1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus; Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 43:11 - I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is ONE LORD: James 2:19 - Thou believest that there is ONE God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Isaiah 43:10 - Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
@@BongBing11 Start with where and how the doctrine first appeared in human history. You'll see it's not in the Bible. But it was in a country more to the North-East of Israel. 😜 Starts with B... ends with ...lon.
@d.r.g.6936 Actually no, Babylon did not have anything pertaining to the Holy Trinity- though it's a modern myth that is widespread. The earliest we can find is within the Mosaic books, where Genesis and Exodus show 'The Angel of The Lord' claim to be God, while also being distinctly His own person.
@@BongBing11 Not so modern, apparently... You can google Anu, Enlil and Enki. Or read "Pagan Trinity - Holy Trinity: The Legacy of the Sumerians in Western Civilization". Also, "Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel” explains: “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”-Volume 2, page 1467 Historian Will Durant observed in The Story of Civilization: Part III, page 595: “Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity.” John L. McKenzie, S.J., in "Dictionary of the Bible", says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”-(New York, 1965), p. 899 In the book "Egyptian Religion", Siegfried Morenz notes: “The trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians . . . Three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology.” Thus, in Alexandria, Egypt, churchmen of the late third and early fourth centuries, such as Athanasius, reflected this influence as they formulated ideas that led to the Trinity. Their own influence spread, so that Morenz considers “Alexandrian theology as the intermediary between the Egyptian religious heritage and Christianity.” In the preface to Edward Gibbon’s History of Christianity, we read: “If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief.” In the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: “In Indian religion, e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of Brahmā, Siva, and Viṣṇu; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus . . . Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a Trinity. One recalls in particular the Neo-Platonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality,” which is “triadically represented.” The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge: “The doctrines of the Logos and the Trinity received their shape from Greek Fathers, who . . . were much influenced, directly or indirectly, by the Platonic philosophy . . . That errors and corruptions crept into the Church from this source can not be denied.” The Church of the First Three Centuries says: “The doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; . . . it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; . . . it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers.” As Adolf Harnack states in Outlines of the History of Dogma, church doctrine became “firmly rooted in the soil of Hellenism [pagan Greek thought]. Thereby it became a mystery to the great majority of Christians." Commenting on the claim that it has some Bible support, he says: “In reality it legitimized in its midst the Hellenic speculation, the superstitious views and customs of pagan mystery-worship.” In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: “We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the Platonic philosophy . . . The Trinity is not a doctrine of Christ and his Apostles, but a fiction of the school of the later Platonists.” “The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”-New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299. Of course, the Encyclopedia argues FOR the trinity, and tries to bring some ideas of support together. But, it's still an Encyclopedia and admits that the concept had its roots. “The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325 [C.E.]. Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father.’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”-Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Volume 6, page 386. Was Constantine a Christian at that point? How comes a non-baptized roman emperor gets to preside over such a crucial discussion? "WHY, for thousands of years, did none of God’s prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the “central doctrine” of faith? Are Christians to believe that centuries after Christ and after having inspired the writing of the Bible, God would back the formulation of a doctrine that was unknown to his servants for thousands of years, one that is an “inscrutable mystery” “beyond the grasp of human reason,” one that admittedly had a pagan background and was “largely a matter of church politics”?" Spiritually speaking, doesn't seem rather that Christendom had entered by then in its foretold dark ages, dominated by a growing “man of lawlessness” clergy class?-2 Thessalonians 2:3, 7.
In my church as an Egyptian Orthodox they taught us that in this verse :the father is greater than me. They told us it means jesus was talking about himself in body not in authority or power❤
I just read 1 Corinthians 15. Verses 24-28 are relevant. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."
It 100% makes sense for monotheistic Jesus to assert that The Father is greater than he even though he is not God. Jesus was constantly accused of blasphemy.
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 peace to you also. The only true God is The Father, Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God and the second Moses (speaks on behalf of God) and the heavenly high priest.
@@truthnotfeelings Indeed, Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God, Friend. & Because of that, he is God. The Greek Word "Μονογενής/Monogene"(for Only Begotten) is used to claim that Yeshua is Unique from all the others sons of God, because he has the Same Essence as God the Father(John 1:1). He has the Same Substance/Essence, & Nature as God, making him God(The Son)❤️✝️.
Father and Son as a relationship always implies a greater position and rank to the father than his son, Christ even said as much once. "No son is greater than his father, no servant is greater than his master, no student is greater than his teacher."
It's tiring to always getting a section of the bible out of contest to make an argument against catholicism. Remember what Pope Benedict XVI said that we must have courage to interpret the bible as a whole.
Matthew 9:8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; *and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.* The text says God "gave" the authority to forgive sins to the man Jesus, making a clear distinction between the two and demonstrating that Jesus didn't already have the authority to forgive sins. It's the same idea in John. Jesus is "given" the authority from God the Father, hence why the Father is greater.
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 But according to the Athanasian Creed "And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal." So is this your own version of Trinitarianism?
@@Visions_arent_real No, it is the Same. None is Greater or Lesser than the other, the Son was Temporarily. We see in the Bible how all 3 are Co-Eternal & Co-Equal, being of the Same Importance. One God that Exists in 3 Persons.
@@Visions_arent_real It doesn't, Friend. If we take it into Context. Paul Refers to it as the "Mystery of Godliness"(1 Timothy 3:16). & Philippians 2:5-11 tells us that Jesus was in the Form of God, then he Emptied Himself & came to Earth. After Earth, he was Exalted & sat Next to the Father. All 3 are Co-Equal in Substance, all are Everlasting & are Co-creators of the Universe.
This video does a good explanation of the Holy Trinity. If anyone in the comments still doesn’t understand, I’d recommend you to read the Athanasian Creed to understand the Holy Trinity.
I like how in the beginning you talk about not isolating the Bible and then begin to not only isolate a handful of verses, but you isolate them in one book. So you've now isolated the entire book of John with the rest of the Bible to prove your point, which is pretty much bad. And if you do that, you should probably try to figure out what you're doing wrong if the whole rest of the Bible goes in the opposite direction of Jesus being God
@@josiahserrano6651 there are a lot of verses that are outside of the book of John that say the exact opposite thing. So isolating one book of a collection of books to justify a position is just as fallacious as cherry picking a verse or a chapter.
@@psyogisoma8819 really, can you give me those verse, because I have outside verses that does agree with John Colossians 2:9. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Matthew 1:23. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name, Immanuel (which means, God with us). In some sense, in the ... Mark 2:5-7 NLT [5] Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralyzed man, “My child, your sins are forgiven.” [6] But some of the teachers of religious law who were sitting there thought to themselves, [7] “What is he saying? This is blasphemy! Only God can forgive sins!” Mark 2:10 NLT [10] So I will prove to you that the Son of Man has the authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said,
@@psyogisoma8819 Matthew 1:23 ESV [23] “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). Mark 2:6-7 ESV [6] Now some of the scribes were sitting there, questioning in their hearts, [7] “Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” [10] But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”-he said to the paralytic What do you think of these verses?
Emanuel can be understood figuratively or literally, depending on your perspective. I view it as more figurative, meaning not that God turned into a human and lived among us, but rather that it's been a long time since God has visibly shown His glory. Jesus symbolizes that God is with us, that God is still present and coming to save us. The name Jesus, or Yeshua, means "God's salvation," which is fitting. In the second passage, take John 19:11, where Jesus states that the individuals involved would have no authority unless it was given by God. This implies that having the authority to forgive sins doesn't make Jesus God, but rather that God granted him this authority. There are other verses where Jesus says he does not act on his own will but according to God's will, indicating he can do nothing without the Father. Additionally, Romans mentions that God is the head of Christ, Christ is the head of man, and man is the head of woman. If God and Christ were the same, why would God be the head of Christ?
And yet, the reason John wrote his gospel is that we might believe that Jesus is not God, but “the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” (John 20:31). In fact, John has Jesus Christ define his Father as “the one true God” (John 17:1-3). This is clear and straightforward. No inferences needed. John as a whole should be understood with this epilogue and John’s definition of the Father in mind. That being said, love this channel a lot! Your presentation of undesigned coincidences is great!!
Just because he says the Father is the one true God doesn't mean the Son isn't also the one true God...there's no exclusivity statement in John's statement.
@@zjzr08 I can’t think of a clearer way that Jesus could’ve said it. One has to try really, really hard to think it means anything other than what it plainly says. What would it take for you to believe that Jesus is literally the Son of the one true God?
@furtherformore I don't disagree with Jesus being the Son of God, what I'm disagreeing is that your statement proves that Jesus isn't God. It's logic, if I say that is a rectangle, it doesn't mean it isn't a square, IF it is a square.
@@zjzr08 I don’t follow your logic in terms of the parent-child relationship that the Bible speaks of. For example, Solomon is David’s Son. No one thinks Solomon IS david. Likewise, Jesus is YHWH’s Son. No one (should) misunderstand Jesus to be YHWH.
The author of that statement didnt believe in the trinity concept yet, that came much later. The earliest christians didnt worship jesus as a god, he was simply the teacher of righteousness.
@@Glory_be_to_Christ But Satan is God according to the Bible as well (2 Corinthians 4:4). Is Satan equal to God the Father? No, he's not. To prove that Jesus is of the same essence You have to show a scripture that says 'Jesus is God Almighty'. Good luck with that.
@@Glory_be_to_Christ @Glory_be_to_Christ Yes, Satan is God of this world, but that doesn't change the fact that Satan is God (or god if You will, I don't get why using capital letters changes so much in the arguments). What does it change in this topic? Nothing. And the next part of Your argument is low quality Ad Hominem, which is an obvious breaking of the Golden Principle (Matthew 7:12), and regardless of Jesus being/not being equal to God the Father we are supposed to adhere to that. Please, try to do that in Your next argument. You know, I have heard both sides of this Trinity/Binity/Whateverity quarrel, but the fact that Jesus simply isn't equal to God stands out as the most logical of views. Jesus prayed. God is immortal, so He can't die (1 Timothy 6:16). Jesus obviously died. The New Testament separates God from Jesus number of times. Examples: "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (1 Timothy 2:5) "For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many 'gods' and many 'lords'), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live." (1 Corinthians 8:5, 6) If Jesus was equal to God then these scriptures would have read 'One there is God in two Person, Father and Son', but Jesus is clearly called man and Lord. Let that sink in. I could write on and on, but I have already written so long comment that it may be hard to read, and I've only scratched the surface. So let's get one thing clear. If You prove that Jesus is equal to God I will change my view on that one but rest assured it's gonna be difficult.
@@panczaki9084 Jesus forgives sins, only God can forgive sins, therefore Jesus is God. God doesn’t share His Glory: ““I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.” Isaiah 42:8 LSB Let’s clarify this before going forward, who do you think Jesus is?
Ask anyone on this planet if they think they are greater than their earthly father and out of true respect they would say that their father is greater. I see this same relationship between God the Father and his Son Jesus all out of respect and love for his Father.
Hi Testify, could you please do a video to the Muslim response to your points where they claims Jesus' oneness with the Father is not divinity, because in John 17, he says the disciples are one with him just like he is one with the father, making them divine too.
Great video.. If Unitarians read carefully the verse itself explains why Jesus said that.. You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ *If you loved Me, you would rejoice because [a]I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’* *for My Father is greater than I.* John 14:28
Here is an example of where it makes VERY plain what "greater" (Greek meizon or mega (from which comes "megachurch") as the lemma or base word, meaning "larger (literally or figuratively, specifically in age), greater, elder, stronger)", at Matthew 11:11, in which Jesus said: "Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than John the Baptist, but a lesser ("lesser", Greek mikros, meaning "small (in size, quantity, number or dignity, least, less, little") person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than he is."(see also Luke 7:28) At Luke 22:27, Jesus tells his eleven faithful apostles, who had just been arguing of who was "the greatest" (Greek meizon): "For which one is greater (Greek meizon), the one dining or the one serving ? Is it not the one dining ? But I am among you as the one serving." At John 4:12, the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well told Jesus: "You are not greater (Greek meizon) than our forefather Jacob, who gave us the well and who together with his sons and his cattle drank out of it, are you ?" So, when Jesus said that "the Father is greater than I am" at John 14:28, he meant CLEARLY that the Father is "larger, specifically in age, elder, stronger, greater" while he, Jesus Christ, is "lesser" or younger, least, small in comparison to him. At 1 Corinthians 14:5, the apostle Paul wrote: "Now I would like for all of you to speak in tongues, but I prefer that you prophesy. Indeed, the one who prophesies is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the congregation may be built up." At 1 John 3:19, 20, the apostle John wrote: "By this we will know that we originate with the truth, and we will assure our hearts before him regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than our hearts and knows all things." At 1 John 4:4, he further states: "You originate with God, little children, and you have conquered them, because the one who is in union with you is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than the one who is in union with the world." At Mark 9:33, 34, it says: "And they came into Ca·perʹna·um. Now when he was inside the house, he put the question to them: “What were you arguing about on the road ?” They kept silent, for on the road they had been arguing among themselves about who is greater ("greater", Greek meizon)."(see Luke 9:46; 22:24) Staunch Trinitarians will "try every trick in the book" to "keep kicking the can of the Holy Trinity down the road", because they are doing as Peter said about the apostle Paul: "Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him," "speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are TWISTING, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."(2 Pet 3:15, 16) So, in the minds of Trinitarians, when someone offers a choice of $100 and $20 as a gift, to them $20 is the same as $100, or that $100 is NOT "greater" than $20.
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:5-8
People who deny the Trinity suffer from smallness of mind. Their problem is they can't understand that their might just be mysteries we humans can't comprehend.
@@hacker4chn841 trinity is not biblical once you understand that you will realize that they are two different individuals Jesus is just a rank under God & is considered like a son to god & god himself sent his son to earth to save human race. This isn’t difficult,
"Jesus said to him, 'All this time I have been with you, and you have not known me, Philip! He who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father?'" (John 14:9).
Great video, but I only have one small qualm! You said that no angel can be omnipresent, however, I don't imagine this to be true, as Uriel, the Angel of God's Light, is everywhere that God's light shines, I.E, everywhere. Not a major thing, and doesn't take away from the point of the video, just me being nitpicky lol
John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
There is submission within the Trinity. The Spirit is God, the Son is God, and the Father is God, and the Son submits to the Father (John 14 : 31) Who we ultimately submit to is our God, so God the Father is the one who the Son ultimately submits to which makes the Father the God of Jesus (who is also God, the Creator of everything that has been created - John 1 : 1 - 3). So when Jesus calls the Father his God this does not mean Jesus is not God. Jesus is God the Son who submits to God the Father.
The heresy is the belief that there is a hierarchy in terms of their nature. Look into the difference between the Ontological and Economic Trinity. Philippians 2.
one thing that has always confused me about muslims is they keep citing john to prove why jesus is not god, but also insisting we should use gospels other than john to try to prove jesus' divinity
Was Jesus denying his divinity by having John, a human, baptize him? No and I think that the same train of thought can be applied to when Jesus said “why do you call me good? Only God is good.” If Jesus were good he wouldn’t have had events transpire in his life that were not good. Nothing that has ever happened to God or come from God is bad, therefore only God is good.
I immediately thought "My Father is greater than I" to mean "If you think I'm so good, wait until you see what the Father has dominion over."
It's like if you have someone over for dinner, and they say "This was amazing!" And you respond with "Wait until we bring out the dessert."
There is no claim that the dinner was bad or unenjoyable. It's simply stating that there is more to come, and it will be even better. So I immediately thought Jesus was really saying "You have no idea how truly amazing God in Heaven is."
I've always learnt that the reason Jesus said it was because he relinquished his throne and heavenly glory to dwell amongst men. So while Jesus was here, dwelling amongst us, the Father who was still in Heaven maintains a seat on the throne and therefore at the time Jesus said what he said, the Father deserved all glory and praise. Once Jesus died and ressurected, he reclaimed the throne and glory that he had in eternity past and is now as great as the Father. That's how I first interpreted it.
@@mikefun7482 We can see evidence of Jesus relinquishing the heavenly glory temporarily, by what happens when individuals do see it.
In Exodus Moses goes up to mount Sinai, and sees God, but all the Israelites are afraid, saying "But let not God speak with us, lest we die". God even commands that none go up to the mountain, as the power and glory is so powerful and overwhelming, it will likely destroy any who are not worthy.
I've done some research, and it seems any time a prophet has seen God, they're transfigured first, because of this reason. It's just too much for a normal mortal frame. So Jesus saying "God is greater" could also be a reference to Jesus taking a fallen form as man, while God remains in His glory, as if to say "I have sacrificed some of my glory to redeem you. God has not."
@@mikefun7482 What do you mean by "throne"?
@@oshawott4544 What exactly did any of them see?
@@truncated7644 they saw God, silly
I've got one for you:
In Acts chapter 3, Peter tells the men of Israel that they "killed the Author of life," which no one can confuse - Peter is referring to Jesus.
Likewise, no one doubts that the Author of life is God.
If God is the Author of life, but Peter is calling Jesus the Author of life, then who did Peter (Jesus' best buddy, as Bart Ehrman puts it) really think about Jesus' deity? You know, the guys who walked and talked with Jesus every day and went on to die for Him.
The translators are writing your doctrine into the text.
ἀρχηγός is the original word. It literally means "the first leader." The connotation is more like "the one at the head of the procession."
You know how this video is saying that "greater" actually just means "higher in rank"? This word actually means "highest in rank." 😅
*Archegos ho zoe*
Archegos is _one with highest authority_ (chief leader).
@@fluffysheap Funnily enough God literally means "The Most High" or "All Mighty" but notice that Christ was never called the Most High, but the Son of the Most High meaning 2 different beings are being referred to, not one.
Christ is God and the Author of life but the word could, possibly, not probably, mean "prince" or "ruler" or the like which even some Unitarians could assent to. They'd be wrong; Luke obviously believed Jesus was God, but that verse cannot be the main indicator of that. It can be accurately stated that Luke knew and endorsed Paul who called Jesus God, the Creator of everything, the God Who led Israel through the wilderness. Furthermore, he took from Matthew who almost directly called Jesus "Yahweh" (or rather quoted Jesus calling Himself "Yahweh") with the "Lord, Lord" saying. Mark implied Jesus is "Yahweh" with Jesus taking the place of the LORD in "Prepare the way of the LORD, make his paths straight."
@@cyanara5523they’re two different persons. Just like when Moses was face to face with God with the Angel of the Lord appearing in the bush, but the Most High never left Heaven.
I love how Jesus never denied being God he just denied being the Father. This further proves the Doctrine of the Trinity.
@@joshuagroh7958 WRONG.
He is the Father. He said so himself. “I and my Father are one.”
God is not a hivemind.
The Holy Trinity is also the image that God made man in.
MIND, BODY, SPIRIT.
FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT.
When Jesus says “My Father is greater than I”, what he is really saying is “My mind is greater than my body”.
The Trinity is MIND, BODY, SPIRIT, not three minds, a body that belongs to one mind, and a spirit that belongs to another mind.
God is not a hivemind, He is ONE.
@@brandenmarcum430 Read Genesis.
@@joshuaoliva1288 I urge you to read Genesis actually, and not take it so literally. Genesis is true, just not LITERALLY. God did not make the entire universe in six 24 hour days.
The Trinity is MIND, BODY, and SPIRIT.
@@lain7758 gnosis?
@@brandenmarcum430heresy
I love how the comments in your videos praise God and His Grace. I love you my brothers and sisters in Christ!
Although some are comments of disagreement.
@jinhunpark love u too brother
If someone doesn't believe Jesus is God, then that person doesn't believe God paid the price for our sins.
@@samuellowekey9271 Can't God forgive sins without this vulgar story of sending his Son to die? And what sins are you talking about, are simple sins considered sins? For all this worry about sending his son to suffer and die ،God is bigger than this
God doesnt need us
We need him
Yet he PAID the price for OUR sins.
Uhhhh no
@@DrM-j8c There is a lot we don't know about religion.
Why did Jesus need to suffer and die for our sins?
We don't know. But we know that was the only way.
But we do know why God couldn't just forgive our sins. God operates by the rules and laws of the universe, whether pre-existing, or created by God, it doesn't matter. What matters is God abides by them.
This is why God fulfills His promises. God says He is bound when we fulfill our part, because God operates on rules and laws that require Him to fulfill them. If God breaks a promise, as God says Himself, He would cease to be God.
Just forgiving our sins would break some law of the universe, specifically the law of justice. This is how we know it's impossible to just forgive our sins, it's clearly stated the laws of justice would be broken.
But how does Jesus atoning for our sins not break that law?
I don't know.
But that's where I decide to make a leap of faith, and believe in something I don't fully understand. God cannot lie. So when God says Jesus died so I can repent, and that it was the only way, it's the truth.
@@DrM-j8cbecause human beings aren't capable of being repentant enough alone
"God sacrificed Himself to Himself to save us from Himself" *Logic 100*
I took that phrase metaphysically, he’s one with the father, but when embodied as Christ he is in this “lower” realm
That is one way to take it. I personally think the authority aspect is more compelling, as He came to live his life in accordance with the will of the Father and to be sacrificed in obedience to the Father. The same verse can mean many things at the same time. Sometimes it's hard keeping track, so take notes! :)
@@shirin8609 I agree with that too 🙏
God The Father exists as a heavenly being and Jesus is how God exists as a worldly being. By taking up worldly traits Jesus lessens himself to the Father in Heaven.
@@beamshooter That's modalism, Patrick!
That's modalism.
It’s like you read my mind, this video is addressing the arguments I have been hearing the last week or so. Great work as always!
Since Jesus was 100% man and 100% God, our Lord choose on his own to submit to the Father like any other man. We can see in revelations that finally our Lord will be king and return to deliver the kingdom while the Father will make the judgment
Don't mean to be rude by this but I'd substitute your language of "100% man and 100% God, with "truly man and truly God." Just because when you say 100% man and 100% God to anyone not Christian, they fixate on the math of 100% + 100%
@@CoryWillis I understand your reasoning, but I phrase it like that because of His dual nature. No offense taken brother, it adds 200%, something not mathematically correct, but the message was meant for good
@@tofi5952 God bless!
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@@horrorwtf3803 Mic drop! Boom! You got us! You've debunked the world's largest religion in one question!
Jesus humbled Himself so much that it's being used against Him!
He just said the truth. He is just the Christ and based on Luke 18:19 he isn't God.
@@m-vg1dr Jesus is not the Father but He is still God.
@@m-vg1dr That's not what that means. You can look up a TH-cam video further explaining it, but basically, it's just these people came up to him and tried to get on good terms with Jesus, but he knew their heart.
Because they didn't believe he was God, so he was trying to prove a point to them.
@Super-Sato-Senior Thank you for spending your time trying to clarify things for me. 🙏
@@m-vg1drthe video already clarified it for u. U just want to close your eyes as many do
Testify, I'm so happy to see your channel gaining so many more views and subscribers. You teach good stuff in an entertaining way, we appreciate you for your hard work, may the Lord bless you, and give you according to His will and His promise for your life ❤
3:52 I understood it as a reference to the name God tells Moses "I am that I am" shortened to "I am". There's actually a really cool animation about it on TH-cam called: I Am (Bible Anime)
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Them* going to the Gospel of John in the first place is wild to me, like how can you skip over 2/3rds of a book and then claim you know the story??
Because he probably read the whole book before? I'm just trying to answer your question, I'm not here to fight.
@@blackwidowpowersports6037 it was a rhetorical question lol, anyone in their right mind starts a book from the beginning.
@@Glory_be_to_Christ I didn’t know it was rhetorical until now but ok
Many people confuse equality with sameness, and confuse authority with value. I am equal to my husband in worth, but not in authority. Jesus is under the Father's authority, but is equally God.
Jesus humbled Himself to the form of a servant who would die for man? No way!
He was a bit shy, what a shame.
@@DrM-j8cWho knows, maybe He just doesn’t like smug people. I don’t blame Him.
@@Arcticmaster1190 I heard a priest from say that he did not say I am God because He will be killed by the Jews if he said that! And what happened in the end، He didn't say and was killed with that!!😭
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But he did say(John 10:30-38).
Yes way. That’s how much he loves us. He’s a god full of love and mercy. He is also just.
God bless you brother ✝️☦️
Amen! InspiringPhilosophy gives a very similar description and explanation, how the Father and Son are of the same nature and substance, but the Father is the head of the Trinity. He is ranked higher in authority in regard to the Trinity, not in existence and nature.
All the evidence you need is in Zechariah 12:1 - 10. If you read it in context, the Lord is speaking (God the Father) to Israel and begins by confirming that HE (the Lord) is indeed the creator of the heavens and earth, and humanity. Now, at verse 12, The Lord says, "They will look on me, the one they have pierced...." Now, who was pierced? It wasn't the Father, nor the Holy Spirit. You get one guess....
Wow, I’ve never seen this. Glory to God
In proverbs the knowledge of God is speaking that He is with the creator of the universe being an architect.
Yeshua is the will of Adonai, or, the memra (word). Everything the Father commands the Son does.
If God himself would come to be tempted by his own creation, He wouldn't be God.
@@Bolaway What did Jesus mean in John 17 when He said "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." John 17:5. Either Jesus was a blaphemer and a liar or He was with the Father before the creation, and the Bible clearly states that before creation there was only God
I love zachariach 8 where God says that during mesajah times HE will come to Israel. Also in 8:14-15 explains why God is more "nice" than in older testament lol
@@TownBiness97 He was talking about his postion as Prime, among God's sons. He was the "only begotten". Proverbs, mentioned by @Boloway actually helps you understand. Proberbs 8:22, 23 talks about something that was before the works of old. The hebrew word "possessed me" actually means "produced me", "formed", "brought me forth", "constituted me" (NIV, Rotherham, NLV, NIRV). The Septuagint and the Targum both clearly show the meaning of tne words. Even more so, the context, helps us, as in verse 23 any translation (ASV, KJV) says "set up" and in 25 it says "I was brought forth", then in 30 it says "I was BY him", It doesn't say "I was He" or "I was him" or "I was in him". And if any clarification is needed, it continues "as a master worman" (words used for a chief apprentice) and again it says "I was daily in HIS delight". Nowhere does is say "we delighted in" or "we were". It's always the idea of 2 persons, enjoying eachother's company and what they accomplish. However, all the verses suggest that the Mind and power behind what was being accomplished was first and foremost "Him" (the other) - "he made", "he gave", "he established" (verses 27, 28, 29).
And again we find a difference in personnage, as in 31 Earth is called: "HIS habitable Earth" just to be followed by "and MY delight was with the sons of man".
Evidence that this is the correct undersanding is offered by the fact that Mark, Luke, John and Paul all quote from the Septuagint, so for them, it was an accurate and reliable translation of the hebrew Scriptures and Septuagint emphasizes the words "formed" and "produced me" in verse 22.
Now, some in the past were tempted to argue that the wisdom is here symbolic and so on. But they forget 3 things:
1. both the context, and the rest of the Scriptures clearly indicate that here is not just a personification of the quality of Wisdom, but also a reference to a real person (a careful read of Proverbs 8, as well as the expression in verse 24, "brought forth", which literally means "brought forth as in pains of labour", and expressions like "as the beginning" or "in the beginning" of his works, 1 Corinthians 1:24; Colossians 2:3.) How could wisdom have any beginning? Wasn't God always wise? Isn't this quality part of his eternal mind? It would rather be strange and unique to have this quality talking like that and presented as that, but no other quality ever 'speaks' again in the Bible, not even love. Interestingly enough, Christ is called "The wisdom of God", "The power of God" and "the Word of God". Besides the pronouns used "of" which implies a *something* belonging to another someone... Christ is never called "The Love of God". Even though, this is presented as being the "greatest" quality. About the Almighty, God Almighty, the Father, it is said "God is love", though. Interesting, no?
2. The Christians of the first 3 centuries understood Proberbs 8:22-31 as relating to Chirst. They also noticed similar wording (related to Christ before his human existence) used in passages such as Matthew 19:4-6 ("HE made them"); John 1:3; 6:57; Colossians 1:15; Re 1:1; 3:14.
3. The same people who tried to argue Proverbs 8 is just a way to talk about wisdom as a quality and that here we find just an anthropomorphism (talking about something inanimate as something with human characteristics), they are usually the same people who argue that when the holy Spirit is said to act as if "hearing", "grieving" and so on, there they use such expressions to suggest we have a third person of the Trinity. Even when, the very context shows "the spirit" is "of God" and that God, the Father is actually the one grieving or doing something by use of his Spirit. (Compare Exodus 8:19, 31:16; Luke 11:20 with Psalm 33:6, where the same word "spirit": 'ruach |hebrew| or 'pneúma |greek| is used but translated as "breath" by some).
So, when the spirit is said to act in a very 'human' way, it's to be understood literally, as being a new person (even if never ever in a vision 3 divine persons where seen in Heavens, always just 2: God, Father and to His right, Chirst). But when the Scriptures clearly indicate that Chirst before human exits is suggested in Proverbs 8, then we need not to bother. :))
6:49 Proving that the Filioque clause shouldn’t exist.
The Holy Spirit comes from ONLY the Father because of his higher position.
Edit: However, I still love my Roman catholic brethren. God bless us all. ☦️❤️✝️
In 1054, the western church separated and from then on it went into a very deep heresy...ANYTHING but the Holy Apostolic Orthodox Church is a sect.
Amen. The monarchy of the Father is correct
thank you very very much about this. I haven't fully read the Bible and thanks for showing me the John 14:12 verse. It really helps me picture the whole thing
More than belief, you need FAITH. Belief comes from intellect and logic, Faith comes from your Spirit. Logic can never combat Faith because Faith comes from inherent truths that are embedded in our Spirit and in our very essence, our DNA. 🖤
You bring so much value. Thank you
Thank you for this video! If possible, in the future, could you also do videos concerning the JWs? Thanks again for your ministry!
Jesus is the perfect son, and he was sent to not only save us, but to show us what the perfect child of GOD looks like. We can only know perfection in human form while looking to Christ as our example.
GOD Bless! ❤️
My Muslim friend always points this out, and the classic 1+1+1=3 argument
I don't see why anyone thinks "what's 1+1+1" is a gotcha. Yes, 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, it's literally the "tri" in "trinity" meaning 3. *Tri* nitarian *mono* theism: 3 persons, 1 god.
@@Trashtatine 1×1×1=1 trinity
could always just say 1 times 1 times 1 = 1, or my favorite: infinity + infinity + infinity = infinity
@@redschannel6527this one is perfect, ima start using it
@@redschannel6527 You can try that, but they'll just keep spamming the question until you directly answer it. Say that 3 is literally in the word "trinity," so we've been saying 1+1+1 = 3 since before Mohammad was born.
About how if someone's position is lesser, does not mean they are lesser in essence or being. That could apply to life, if someone is poorer, homeless or not as famous or whatever, it doesn't mean they are lesser in essence.
Revelation 22:13 and John 13:14, John 10:30, John 8:58, Mark 14:62, Mark 2:28, Mark 2:7-10, John 14:9, Daniel 7:14, Jesus literally states He is God
Literally? Not really.
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1. Jesus Christ doesn't say he is God, he says that he is the beginning and the end, possibly hinting at being given immense power to manipulate the physics within universe, as he can be timeless, God can be out of all dimensions, Jesus is just out of this dimension and God (the Father) can remove this power when he wants to.
2. The word mentioned as God, is as owner or guide, look at the message, he says that God who is bigger than me has given me an advantage and I who am bigger than you give you an advantage so give to those who you are bigger than.
3. The will and the objectives and goals are the same, as Jesus is fully obedient of the Father who is the only God based on Luke 18:19 he denies himself as God.
4. Again, before Abraham, meaning God has given Jesus powers to manipulate time, why would God need to be born out of a human? Think about it.
5. He says on God's right hand, not exactly God.
6. Again the Christ was given immense privilege and power over the laws as God trusts him.
7. People called him God, he never said anything about himself being God, he is just the son, the Christ.
8. The Christ was given enough power by the LORD, his will is the same as the LORD, so the LORD would be giving the same reasons as Jesus.
10. Literally says that the throne was given to him and he didn't have it naturally. Given to him!
I am not tagged by any religions, I know a singular God who has made Jesus Christ and has made messiahs alongside Jesus, and clearly you must strengthen your mind as you can easily be deceived if you perceived Jesus as God while reading the bible. The description of God in Ezekiel and Exodus are different from the description of Jesus Christ in the Book Of Revelation! Don't make God sad.
@@m-vg1dr Thank you for your wisdom. You seem to read scripture with little or no distortion. Even so, I try to remain perpetually humble to the true meaning of scripture, the FULL Truth of which is still unknown to me.
Humility is frequently a struggle to maintain, but when Utter Humility is reached, the Heavens open and Miracles occur. There can be no greater *_Proof of God._*
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Revelation 22:13 - "On the east were three gates, and on the north three gates, and on the south three gates, and on the west three gates" This doesn't prove anything.
John 13:14 - "Therefore, if I, the Lord and Teacher, washed your feet, you also should wash the feet of one another." - Jesus says he is lord over us and the earth he doesn't say he's God. God has appointed Jesus to rule over us and earth.
John 10:30 - "I and the Father are one.” As in a part of each other, not literally the exact same. This is the same as when God says man and woman are one. Man and woman are separate entities but are a part of each other, just as a son is a part of his father, Jesus is a part of God.
John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been." Yeah Jesus was created before Abraham, and before Jesus there was God. This doesn't prove anything. I could go on but this is enough. The simple answer is that Jesus isn't God, he's God's son as clearly stated multiple times in John 5:18, John 17:3, John 6:38, John 7:16, and most importantly, Luke 3:21, 22, when Jesus is being baptized the heavens literally open before them and God speaks to Jesus and says "“You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.”
@@fuel_ethanol4020 I understand most of what you wrote, but the you said, "The simple answer is that Jesus is God,..." in your last paragraph, seeming contradicting what you wrote earlier.
I agree that when Christ said, "I and the Father are one," he was not claiming identity, but harmony. And what some Trinitarians don't realize when they call upon that verse to "prove" Jesus is God, they do not realize that they are making Jesus into the Father!!!
Oh, the irony!
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I am grateful that the Lord showed me this video because a similar question popped into my head.
In the Agony in the Garden, Jesus said, "Father, if you are willing, take this cup away from me; still, not my will but yours be done."
I wondered how The Father and The Son could have different wills and why Jesus had to ask for the Father's permission. And why was Jesus still worried even though he would've already known this moment since before creation? Could Jesus have altered his future?
The Son must be obedient to the Father because Jesus did carry out the Father's will. But I don't know if there was ever a moment where they had different wills but the Father did what the Son wanted.
The video explains why the Son isn't necessarily inferior and the Father isn't superior as God but I still am not sure about what was going on at the Agony in the Garden.
I'm young, just so you know.
God bless.
Jesus was absolutely willing to go through with it. I think Him asking "take this cup from me" just demonstrates how painful the atonement was.
Jesus knew about this moment from the beginning. He knew He had to do it, and while it's not entirely clear if He could have altered the series of events, God knew it would happen.
As for God and Jesus having different wills, I don't believe they did. The pain of the atonement was simply so immense, that even God hesitated to fulfill it.
But He went through with it.
Because that's how much God loves us.
Jesus also says, “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.”
John 10:18
Jesus chose this path, but at the moment he was also human. I think the prayer in the garden was a reflection of his humanity. No one likes pain
@@user-o7e-h5h Because Jesus is fully God and fully man, He has a divine will and a human will.
Jesus’ divine will is identical to the Father’s will because they are both God.
Jesus’ human will is perfectly submitted to the Father’s will because that is how humans should act towards God. When Jesus said “not My will, but Yours be done”, He was submitting His human will (which was desperately wishing to avoid the suffering He was about to experience) to the Father’s divine will.
Thank you all for the insight.
There are many ways too interpret this
1) Jesus is saying that the Father does even MORE works than the son. No contradiction to the Trinity.
2) Think of your household. Your father has a higher order on the hierarchy than you. Does that make you less human? No.
Trinity was created in fourth century. Jews usually don't believe in it.
A good video for you to watch is the Ariel Cohen Alloro speaking about this concept in Kabbalah. He believes in Yeshua and teaches Kabbalah in Israel.
Trinity is garbage. The concept is even deeper than you guys can imagine.
Yeshua is not the Father, because He needed the Father to resurrect him.
Leave the translations and go study the original biblical thinking. The Jewish.
Me and my father are two totally different people. We look at each other as being two different people. Not two in one. He is him and I am me.
@@davidmathews9633 But are you God? Why do you put a limitation on the one who created you? He is outside space time and creation
You are 1 person and 1 being
He is 3 persons in 1 being
2:14 this is the part where I would have loved to hear the entomology of the "greater" word, but either way I suppose context is proof as is.
The orthodox Church explain it through the monarchical view of the Trinity.
Humility is all it is.
I am the son of my father, and I work at his company, he is greater than me (his office as CEO), but that does not mean he is more human than I am. We are both equally human. Jesus is talking about His Father's office, not His being or nature.
Conclusion: you are your father
@@nizarnor5763 No one would ever conclude I am my father by virtue of me being his son. Likewise, no Christian believes that Jesus is the Father; Jesus is the Son of the Father, and thus, shares the nature of his Father (the nature of God). Like father, like son!
Sura 43:81 "Had the Beneficent God really had a son, I would certainly have been the first one to worship him." Even Muhammad recognized that if God really has a son, then the son must be worshipped. So Christians are right to worship Jesus, as they believe Jesus truly is the Son of God. The Quran confirms that Muhammad himself would have worshipped Jesus, if Muhammad knew that Jesus was God's Son. Unfortunately, the angel who revealed the Quran to Muhammad tricked him, as the Bible warned us:
2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
@@VFXShawn That's incredibly sad because elsewhere in the quran it berates Christians for not obeying the Gospel and tells them to follow it. I can only conclude that Muhammed did not know what the Christian text actually said because it clearly tells us God has a Son.
@@hermanwooster8944 Muhammad and Muslims believe in a fictional version of a non-existent book called "the injeel", which they believe "Allah" gave to "Isa", but have never been able to produce a single copy or verse from it. This is a religious belief but not based on manuscripts or any facts of history.
This "injeel", or gospel, to the surprise of both Muhammad and Muslims, is not a book given to Jesus, but the story about Jesus and His accomplishments (his death and resurrection to defeat sin and death), handed down by those who lived with Christ for 3 years (his 12 disciples).
Muhammad never read the "injeel" or the New Testament, and so, Muslims follow this example of illiteracy and have no clue what the "injeel" actually said. Yes, the gospel says Jesus is the Son of God, as does the Old Testament, which they also do not read (1 Chronicles 28:6, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 9:6). It is very sad indeed.
This made me cry a little bit as it reminds me how humble God is he came as a man to die for all men.
0:01 Keeps forgetting the jews
7:02 THAT'S MODALISM PATRICK
All in jest haha, thank you for the great video.
The ROLE of the Father is greater. That's about it .
True, but they have the Same authority in all of the Dominion.
Its like this, in the Old Roman Republic, their used to be 2 Consuls, both a Father and a Son that have the same position. They have the same power, but the Son understood that he had a different authority, cause his Father had the same authority with him, so he is following his orders as well.
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Monarchical Trinitarianism is the answer.
Monarchical Trinitarianism:
(a) There are three entities within the Trinity: the Father, the Son and the Spirit,
each of whom share one divine nature and thus are each equally termed ‘God’
(in the predicative sense).
(b) The one ‘God’ (in the nominal sense) is numerically identical to one of the
entities: the Father, who is the sole ultimate source of the Son and the Spirit
Yes this is based
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Show me these words from the Bible
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@@DrM-j8c The clear affirmation that The Father is numerically identical to "The God" in the nominal sense comes from many passages.
One for example: John 17:3-5
That is why when Jesus said “only my father knows the hour”
It simply means it’s the father that will decide whenever the hour has come
It’s not a predetermined date
It’s just whenever the father decides
It’s that simple
I believe in the trinity. It’s the father, the son, the Holy Spirit. The 3 points on the cross.
Only one small quip: μείζων never is used to describe one being greater in nature. Rather κρείσσων describes being greater in nature. The rest is spot on! Great job!!!😊😊
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the brand is to look unpolished. it's why a lot of people do click.
@@danielbrownielglad the content is great then
The way I always see that is that Jesus set himself as an example of how we should be. So when he refers to God the father as greater he is not saying I'm not God cause my father is greater. Rather he shows how we should see God. Setting an example for us. Plus above that like someone in the comments said it is like saying if you think what I have shown is amazing wait till you see heaven.
Functional subordination does not equal ontological subordination
Peace be with you.
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Jesus not deny who he was, he just tell the truth because he is the truth.
I literally studied the entire New Testament and got every verse that states he is God.
From Matthew to Revelation
And every verse to which you refer can also be interpreted to mean that he is NOT God. Yet there are numerous verses which are not so ambiguous, declaring that Christ is a servant OF God; a mediator BETWEEN God and man; and not "Good" like God is.
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@@RodMartinJr Christ is not good?
@@Dizerner Christ declared this in Mark 10.18:
*_And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone_* (Mark 10.18, ESV).
In other words, Christ is lower than God, and not Perfectly Good as is the Father in Heaven. He is THE mediator between God and man.
*_For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus_* (1 Timothy 2.5).
How can so many people *_mangle_* this verse, contorting it like a pretzel to mean something else? Such evil is only possible when the *_Father of Lies_* convinces people, like he did Eve, that their minds are perfect in their certainty.
I am here to proclaim that ONLY God Almighty is perfect. Not Christ, and certainly NOT me. Christ is the blessed one, chosen by God. God did not chose God!!!
As difficult as it is (and I've struggled for 74 years), humility is the proper lifestyle choice. Claiming to know Truth, without being in Heaven with the angels, is arrogance. I have seen pieces of Truth and still don't fully understand them, asking for, and receiving dozens of Miracles. So, how can anyone who has not had God's ear for such Miracles proclaim to know God's FULL Truth? I have so much MORE to learn; too many Christians proclaim or imply that they don't need to learn more. ALL knowledge on this side of Heaven is suspect. We need to keep asking God, "Lord, what else do I need to learn?"
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@@RodMartinJr Jesus did not ever say he was not God in that statement.
He is sinless-he is good.
You are gravely mistaken and in deep deception.
@@RodMartinJr “I am the *GOOD* Shepherd”
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Outstanding!
I don't really get it,but If Jesus said it to teach us to be humble and know that our father in the sky is always greater than us.
Thanks for what you do!
but we know he never claimed to be the father. in fact, Jesus has no idea when he is coming back. he also has his own will he chooses not to follow. "Not my will be done". being one with something does not mean you are the same thing. an animal is one with nature, but an animal in itself is not nature. at one with something means you are aligned with and doing the will of what you are one with. i have not read enough to identify if he is any more than what a perfect human without sin would be, but being one with someone does not make it you
Helpful explanation, thank you
Do a video on Mormonism please 🙏
4:25 people focus on the "I and the father are one" bit and argue that Jesus was just saying something like he has a close relationship with God, but notice how he also says "I give them eternal life"
As in he is the one taking credit for their eternal life.
I also cant help but notice a lot of the arguments used are also the same arguments that some spiritualists use to argue that we are all god.
No. You have it wrong. After the Jews picked up stones accusing Jesus of making Himself a god, Jesus quoted the Psalms when it says, I said, 'You are gods,' and if that's in the Scripture, and the Scripture can't be broken, then why accuse Him of blasphemy because He said He's God's Son? Think about it. If you justified someone for robbing a person, then why would you indite another person for borrowing something?
When Jesus says He and God are one, He's talking about being in sync- one mind, one in message, and one in purpose, not that He's God. If not, then why does Jesus say He wants all us believers to be one, and for us to be one in Jesus and God in John 17:20-21? Are we then supposed to be God? Or does it mean we should be one with God in message and purpose?
Jesus says similarly of Himself when He says that He speaks what God commands Him to say in John 12:49-50.
Matthew 1:23 NLT
[23] “Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means ‘God is with us.’”
What do you think of this?
@josiahserrano6651 In order to explain this, I think it's good to give context. Not everything Jesus fulfilled are direct Messianic prophecies. For example, in Matthew 2:14, where it says that He fulfilled, "Out of Egypt, I called My Son," the verse in Hosea that it draws from is talking about Israel. So the fulfillment is to say that Jesus is taking the place of Israel, who is called God's son in Exodus 4:22.
Another way Jesus fulfills is history repeating itself. As it was in such a time when such a Prophet spoke, so it was in Jesus's time on earth. This is what it means, for example, when it says the words of the Prophets was fulfilled when Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver and the money was given to the potter in Matthew 27:9-10.
Now, we get to Isaiah 7:14. In Isaiah, King Ahaz's kingdom of Judah was being attacked by Israel and Syria. Isaiah prophesied that a young woman would give birth to a child called Immanuel, and before he was old enough to know good or bad, Syria and Israel will be forsaken by both their kings. In other words, that child was a sign that God was with Judah to save them.
This is similar to Jesus. His presence was a sign from God that God was with Israel to save them. Hence, "God with us."
Matthew 1:21 NKJV
[21] And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”
Hopefully, that makes sense.
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That's the point they say that he said father is greater than i, as in he is a prophet and the father is god and it's logical that god is greater than a prophet, but what doesn't make sense is how he says that the human version is less greater than him when they're the same person
This is the Eastern Orthodox doctrine of the Monarchy of the Father. Even if this accurate, it doesn't negate Jesus being fully God as the Second Person of the Godhead. Jesus receives worship, as only the Father does. That should settle the whole question of Who He Is.
It does though. Jesus says himself that there is only one God, not three, and not three in one, and it's not him. The trinity is a belief created by a misunderstanding of what the Bible says, and flat out ignoring the parts that disprove it.
The trinity is pantheism.
@@88Padillaplease, read the Bible again, in full context re read the parts that “disprove” the trinity. Pantheism would be us saying there are 3 Gods, there is only one, same way every human has 3 parts (mind body spirit) but is still one entity
No disrespect
@@UnidentifiedFlyingSquirrel if there's only one entity, then there's only one entity. God is a spiritual being. There is no "mind body." Only spirit. God the father and spirit instructed Jesus what to do. That doesn't mean Jesus is God. Just like God spoke through the burning bush in the old testament, but God is not a burning bush. There is only one, not three. Nowhere in the bible does it say God is three in one. It's a belief created by misunderstanding.
@@88Padilla Read John 1.
@@elbron7595 🤣
Time-stamps
1:27, 1:53 -
Matthew 11:11, is John the Baptist more human than everybody else?
John 13:16, this doesn’t mean the slave or messenger is less human.
John 14:12, doesn’t mean that the disciples would be greater miracle workers, but that they would reach more people. Greater in quantity, not quality.
2:16 - John 14:13-14 implies the omni-attributes.
2:47 - John 14:23, same presence as the Father.
3:40 - John 13:19 and Isaiah 43:10
4:10 - John 5:18 and John 10:27-30
4:57 - Isaiah 43:13 and John 10
6:53 - Conclusion
7:01 - King and peasant analogy
The crybaby Muslims in this Channel's comments have gotten me banned for hate speech twice already
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@@TestifyApologetics yep twice in two weeks. 24hr hate speech ban. Had to be them from here. No other options. Still love your content just wanted people to know before they engage with certain people what the likely outcome is
@@monsieurcharcutier4490 that's propaganda for you 💀
Amen Hallelujah ❤😊
Remind me, what does the Jah in "Hallelu-Jah" stand for?
You are cool
Jesus is cooler
@@TestifyApologeticsAmen 🙏
In a good relationship the members elevate each other rather than assert their own personal greatness.
But lets see what the Bible says:
Mark 12:29 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is ONE Lord:
1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator between God and men, THE MAN Christ Jesus;
Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 43:11 - I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but ONE GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is ONE LORD:
James 2:19 - Thou believest that there is ONE God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Isaiah 43:10 - Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
@@davidmathews9633 🤝
Study up on Trinitarianism, it's what the Bible teaches :P
@@BongBing11 Start with where and how the doctrine first appeared in human history. You'll see it's not in the Bible. But it was in a country more to the North-East of Israel. 😜 Starts with B... ends with ...lon.
@d.r.g.6936 Actually no, Babylon did not have anything pertaining to the Holy Trinity- though it's a modern myth that is widespread.
The earliest we can find is within the Mosaic books, where Genesis and Exodus show 'The Angel of The Lord' claim to be God, while also being distinctly His own person.
@@BongBing11 Not so modern, apparently... You can google Anu, Enlil and Enki. Or read "Pagan Trinity - Holy Trinity: The Legacy of the Sumerians in Western Civilization". Also, "Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel” explains: “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”-Volume 2, page 1467
Historian Will Durant observed in The Story of Civilization: Part III, page 595: “Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity.”
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in "Dictionary of the Bible", says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”-(New York, 1965), p. 899
In the book "Egyptian Religion", Siegfried Morenz notes: “The trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians . . . Three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology.”
Thus, in Alexandria, Egypt, churchmen of the late third and early fourth centuries, such as Athanasius, reflected this influence as they formulated ideas that led to the Trinity. Their own influence spread, so that Morenz considers “Alexandrian theology as the intermediary between the Egyptian religious heritage and Christianity.”
In the preface to Edward Gibbon’s History of Christianity, we read: “If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief.”
In the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: “In Indian religion, e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of Brahmā, Siva, and Viṣṇu; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus . . . Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a Trinity. One recalls in particular the Neo-Platonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality,” which is “triadically represented.”
The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge: “The doctrines of the Logos and the Trinity received their shape from Greek Fathers, who . . . were much influenced, directly or indirectly, by the Platonic philosophy . . . That errors and corruptions crept into the Church from this source can not be denied.”
The Church of the First Three Centuries says: “The doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; . . . it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; . . . it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers.”
As Adolf Harnack states in Outlines of the History of Dogma, church doctrine became “firmly rooted in the soil of Hellenism [pagan Greek thought]. Thereby it became a mystery to the great majority of Christians." Commenting on the claim that it has some Bible support, he says: “In reality it legitimized in its midst the Hellenic speculation, the superstitious views and customs of pagan mystery-worship.”
In the book A Statement of Reasons, Andrews Norton says of the Trinity: “We can trace the history of this doctrine, and discover its source, not in the Christian revelation, but in the Platonic philosophy . . . The Trinity is not a doctrine of Christ and his Apostles, but a fiction of the school of the later Platonists.”
“The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”-New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299. Of course, the Encyclopedia argues FOR the trinity, and tries to bring some ideas of support together. But, it's still an Encyclopedia and admits that the concept had its roots.
“The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325 [C.E.]. Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father.’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”-Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Volume 6, page 386.
Was Constantine a Christian at that point? How comes a non-baptized roman emperor gets to preside over such a crucial discussion?
"WHY, for thousands of years, did none of God’s prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the “central doctrine” of faith?
Are Christians to believe that centuries after Christ and after having inspired the writing of the Bible, God would back the formulation of a doctrine that was unknown to his servants for thousands of years, one that is an “inscrutable mystery” “beyond the grasp of human reason,” one that admittedly had a pagan background and was “largely a matter of church politics”?"
Spiritually speaking, doesn't seem rather that Christendom had entered by then in its foretold dark ages, dominated by a growing “man of lawlessness” clergy class?-2 Thessalonians 2:3, 7.
In my church as an Egyptian Orthodox they taught us that in this verse :the father is greater than me. They told us it means jesus was talking about himself in body not in authority or power❤
"facts don't care about your feelings" 😂😂 i see what you did
Question: why did Gary Habermas and Mike Licona turn the original 12 points minimal facts argument into just a measly 3 ?
Power scalers gonna have a field day with this 🥶
I just read 1 Corinthians 15. Verses 24-28 are relevant. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."
It 100% makes sense for monotheistic Jesus to assert that The Father is greater than he even though he is not God. Jesus was constantly accused of blasphemy.
Peace be with you Friend ❤️
Jesus is God in Substance/Essence
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 peace to you also. The only true God is The Father, Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God and the second Moses (speaks on behalf of God) and the heavenly high priest.
@@truthnotfeelings
Indeed, Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God, Friend. & Because of that, he is God.
The Greek Word "Μονογενής/Monogene"(for Only Begotten) is used to claim that Yeshua is Unique from all the others sons of God, because he has the Same Essence as God the Father(John 1:1).
He has the Same Substance/Essence, & Nature as God, making him God(The Son)❤️✝️.
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 nah
@@truthnotfeelings
Please be Not ignorant of the Bible, Friend
Father and Son as a relationship always implies a greater position and rank to the father than his son, Christ even said as much once. "No son is greater than his father, no servant is greater than his master, no student is greater than his teacher."
Did Jesus ever say "No son is greater than his father"?
It's tiring to always getting a section of the bible out of contest to make an argument against catholicism. Remember what Pope Benedict XVI said that we must have courage to interpret the bible as a whole.
Bro the moment ya’ll decided to make humans intercede for you to get to God rather using only Jesus you lost the battle
@@numi8985 Ok, so don't ask anyone to pray for you.
I'm still trying to figure out this logic.
Matthew 9:8
When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; *and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.*
The text says God "gave" the authority to forgive sins to the man Jesus, making a clear distinction between the two and demonstrating that Jesus didn't already have the authority to forgive sins.
It's the same idea in John. Jesus is "given" the authority from God the Father, hence why the Father is greater.
Peace be with you, Friend ❤
Yes, but Jesus is Still God in Substance. The Father was Greater than the Son in Authority, Position & Responsibility.
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 But according to the Athanasian Creed "And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal."
So is this your own version of Trinitarianism?
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No, it is the Same. None is Greater or Lesser than the other, the Son was Temporarily.
We see in the Bible how all 3 are Co-Eternal & Co-Equal, being of the Same Importance.
One God that Exists in 3 Persons.
@@Daniel_Godismyjudge--Isah33.22 But that contradicts Jn. 14:28 where Jesus says the Father is greater than I.
@@Visions_arent_real
It doesn't, Friend. If we take it into Context. Paul Refers to it as the "Mystery of Godliness"(1 Timothy 3:16).
& Philippians 2:5-11 tells us that Jesus was in the Form of God, then he Emptied Himself & came to Earth. After Earth, he was Exalted & sat Next to the Father.
All 3 are Co-Equal in Substance, all are Everlasting & are Co-creators of the Universe.
This video does a good explanation of the Holy Trinity. If anyone in the comments still doesn’t understand, I’d recommend you to read the Athanasian Creed to understand the Holy Trinity.
I like how in the beginning you talk about not isolating the Bible and then begin to not only isolate a handful of verses, but you isolate them in one book. So you've now isolated the entire book of John with the rest of the Bible to prove your point, which is pretty much bad. And if you do that, you should probably try to figure out what you're doing wrong if the whole rest of the Bible goes in the opposite direction of Jesus being God
So what is your point?
@@josiahserrano6651 there are a lot of verses that are outside of the book of John that say the exact opposite thing. So isolating one book of a collection of books to justify a position is just as fallacious as cherry picking a verse or a chapter.
@@psyogisoma8819 really, can you give me those verse, because I have outside verses that does agree with John
Colossians 2:9. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Matthew 1:23. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name, Immanuel (which means, God with us). In some sense, in the ...
Mark 2:5-7 NLT
[5] Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralyzed man, “My child, your sins are forgiven.” [6] But some of the teachers of religious law who were sitting there thought to themselves, [7] “What is he saying? This is blasphemy! Only God can forgive sins!”
Mark 2:10 NLT
[10] So I will prove to you that the Son of Man has the authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said,
@@psyogisoma8819
Matthew 1:23 ESV
[23] “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).
Mark 2:6-7 ESV
[6] Now some of the scribes were sitting there, questioning in their hearts, [7] “Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
[10] But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”-he said to the paralytic
What do you think of these verses?
Emanuel can be understood figuratively or literally, depending on your perspective. I view it as more figurative, meaning not that God turned into a human and lived among us, but rather that it's been a long time since God has visibly shown His glory. Jesus symbolizes that God is with us, that God is still present and coming to save us. The name Jesus, or Yeshua, means "God's salvation," which is fitting.
In the second passage, take John 19:11, where Jesus states that the individuals involved would have no authority unless it was given by God. This implies that having the authority to forgive sins doesn't make Jesus God, but rather that God granted him this authority. There are other verses where Jesus says he does not act on his own will but according to God's will, indicating he can do nothing without the Father. Additionally, Romans mentions that God is the head of Christ, Christ is the head of man, and man is the head of woman. If God and Christ were the same, why would God be the head of Christ?
And yet, the reason John wrote his gospel is that we might believe that Jesus is not God, but “the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” (John 20:31).
In fact, John has Jesus Christ define his Father as “the one true God” (John 17:1-3). This is clear and straightforward. No inferences needed. John as a whole should be understood with this epilogue and John’s definition of the Father in mind.
That being said, love this channel a lot! Your presentation of undesigned coincidences is great!!
Just because he says the Father is the one true God doesn't mean the Son isn't also the one true God...there's no exclusivity statement in John's statement.
@@zjzr08 I can’t think of a clearer way that Jesus could’ve said it. One has to try really, really hard to think it means anything other than what it plainly says. What would it take for you to believe that Jesus is literally the Son of the one true God?
@furtherformore I don't disagree with Jesus being the Son of God, what I'm disagreeing is that your statement proves that Jesus isn't God.
It's logic, if I say that is a rectangle, it doesn't mean it isn't a square, IF it is a square.
@@zjzr08 I don’t follow your logic in terms of the parent-child relationship that the Bible speaks of. For example, Solomon is David’s Son. No one thinks Solomon IS david. Likewise, Jesus is YHWH’s Son. No one (should) misunderstand Jesus to be YHWH.
John 1:1
The author of that statement didnt believe in the trinity concept yet, that came much later. The earliest christians didnt worship jesus as a god, he was simply the teacher of righteousness.
Thomas calls Jesus “my Lord and my God”
Clement of Rome calls Him the Word, and we know that the Word is God from John 1:1
@@Glory_be_to_Christ But Satan is God according to the Bible as well (2 Corinthians 4:4). Is Satan equal to God the Father? No, he's not. To prove that Jesus is of the same essence You have to show a scripture that says 'Jesus is God Almighty'. Good luck with that.
@@panczaki9084 Satan is the god of this world, if you’re going to try and be clever, at least quote the Bible right, it makes you look ignorant 🤦🏻♂️
@@Glory_be_to_Christ @Glory_be_to_Christ Yes, Satan is God of this world, but that doesn't change the fact that Satan is God (or god if You will, I don't get why using capital letters changes so much in the arguments). What does it change in this topic? Nothing. And the next part of Your argument is low quality Ad Hominem, which is an obvious breaking of the Golden Principle (Matthew 7:12), and regardless of Jesus being/not being equal to God the Father we are supposed to adhere to that. Please, try to do that in Your next argument.
You know, I have heard both sides of this Trinity/Binity/Whateverity quarrel, but the fact that Jesus simply isn't equal to God stands out as the most logical of views.
Jesus prayed.
God is immortal, so He can't die (1 Timothy 6:16). Jesus obviously died.
The New Testament separates God from Jesus number of times. Examples:
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." (1 Timothy 2:5)
"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many 'gods' and many 'lords'), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live." (1 Corinthians 8:5, 6)
If Jesus was equal to God then these scriptures would have read 'One there is God in two Person, Father and Son', but Jesus is clearly called man and Lord. Let that sink in.
I could write on and on, but I have already written so long comment that it may be hard to read, and I've only scratched the surface.
So let's get one thing clear. If You prove that Jesus is equal to God I will change my view on that one but rest assured it's gonna be difficult.
@@panczaki9084 Jesus forgives sins, only God can forgive sins, therefore Jesus is God.
God doesn’t share His Glory:
““I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.”
Isaiah 42:8 LSB
Let’s clarify this before going forward, who do you think Jesus is?
The trinity is also an explanation for enlightenment.
Balancing both polarities for a proper ascension.
Ask anyone on this planet if they think they are greater than their earthly father and out of true respect they would say that their father is greater. I see this same relationship between God the Father and his Son Jesus all out of respect and love for his Father.
Hi Testify, could you please do a video to the Muslim response to your points where they claims Jesus' oneness with the Father is not divinity, because in John 17, he says the disciples are one with him just like he is one with the father, making them divine too.
Jesus Humbled HIMself😊
Great video.. If Unitarians read carefully the verse itself explains why Jesus said that..
You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ *If you loved Me, you would rejoice because [a]I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’* *for My Father is greater than I.*
John 14:28
Here is an example of where it makes VERY plain what "greater" (Greek meizon or mega (from which comes "megachurch") as the lemma or base word, meaning "larger (literally or figuratively, specifically in age), greater, elder, stronger)", at Matthew 11:11, in which Jesus said:
"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than John the Baptist, but a lesser ("lesser", Greek mikros, meaning "small (in size, quantity, number or dignity, least, less, little") person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than he is."(see also Luke 7:28)
At Luke 22:27, Jesus tells his eleven faithful apostles, who had just been arguing of who was "the greatest" (Greek meizon): "For which one is greater (Greek meizon), the one dining or the one serving ? Is it not the one dining ? But I am among you as the one serving."
At John 4:12, the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well told Jesus: "You are not greater (Greek meizon) than our forefather Jacob, who gave us the well and who together with his sons and his cattle drank out of it, are you ?" So, when Jesus said that "the Father is greater than I am" at John 14:28, he meant CLEARLY that the Father is "larger, specifically in age, elder, stronger, greater" while he, Jesus Christ, is "lesser" or younger, least, small in comparison to him.
At 1 Corinthians 14:5, the apostle Paul wrote: "Now I would like for all of you to speak in tongues, but I prefer that you prophesy. Indeed, the one who prophesies is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than the one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the congregation may be built up."
At 1 John 3:19, 20, the apostle John wrote: "By this we will know that we originate with the truth, and we will assure our hearts before him regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than our hearts and knows all things."
At 1 John 4:4, he further states: "You originate with God, little children, and you have conquered them, because the one who is in union with you is greater ("greater", Greek meizon) than the one who is in union with the world."
At Mark 9:33, 34, it says: "And they came into Ca·perʹna·um. Now when he was inside the house, he put the question to them: “What were you arguing about on the road ?” They kept silent, for on the road they had been arguing among themselves about who is greater ("greater", Greek meizon)."(see Luke 9:46; 22:24)
Staunch Trinitarians will "try every trick in the book" to "keep kicking the can of the Holy Trinity down the road", because they are doing as Peter said about the apostle Paul: "Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him,"
"speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are TWISTING, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."(2 Pet 3:15, 16)
So, in the minds of Trinitarians, when someone offers a choice of $100 and $20 as a gift, to them $20 is the same as $100, or that $100 is NOT "greater" than $20.
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
Philippians 2:5-8
Jesus obeys the His Father's commands.
_" ... even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."_ - JESUS, Jhn 15
Hi Testify, love your videos! Can you do a video on Matthew 24?
eventually, sure.
The son lays His life down willingly for His sheep. He honors and loves the father.
People who deny the Trinity suffer from smallness of mind. Their problem is they can't understand that their might just be mysteries we humans can't comprehend.
@@hacker4chn841 trinity is not biblical once you understand that you will realize that they are two different individuals Jesus is just a rank under God & is considered like a son to god & god himself sent his son to earth to save human race. This isn’t difficult,
@@OfficialBrainTheory The entire book of John says otherwise.
"Jesus said to him, 'All this time I have been with you, and you have not known me, Philip! He who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father?'" (John 14:9).
Great video, but I only have one small qualm! You said that no angel can be omnipresent, however, I don't imagine this to be true, as Uriel, the Angel of God's Light, is everywhere that God's light shines, I.E, everywhere.
Not a major thing, and doesn't take away from the point of the video, just me being nitpicky lol
During his human period he said that , it does not deny his place into the Trinity .
John 20:17
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
There is submission within the Trinity.
The Spirit is God, the Son is God, and the Father is God, and the Son submits to the Father (John 14 : 31)
Who we ultimately submit to is our God, so God the Father is the one who the Son ultimately submits to which makes the Father the God of Jesus (who is also God, the Creator of everything that has been created - John 1 : 1 - 3).
So when Jesus calls the Father his God this does not mean Jesus is not God.
Jesus is God the Son who submits to God the Father.
John 20:28
“Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’”
@@EyeToob Are there any differences between God and the Holy Spirit?
1:14
Isn’t that an old Hersey
The heresy is the belief that there is a hierarchy in terms of their nature. Look into the difference between the Ontological and Economic Trinity. Philippians 2.
one thing we can say for certain is that are more difference in our manuscript than there are words in the new testament
-someone ehrman-
I think it solidified it even more actually.
Remember the last will be first. Serve people like they are greater than you.
one thing that has always confused me about muslims is they keep citing john to prove why jesus is not god, but also insisting we should use gospels other than john to try to prove jesus' divinity
Was Jesus denying his divinity by having John, a human, baptize him? No and I think that the same train of thought can be applied to when Jesus said “why do you call me good? Only God is good.” If Jesus were good he wouldn’t have had events transpire in his life that were not good. Nothing that has ever happened to God or come from God is bad, therefore only God is good.
Eric, Have you seen anything about undesigned coincidences in the OT?
Of course they were designed, designed by God. Why undesigned?
I've done a few videos on them, see the back half of the playlist on the topic
Can you talk about Deuteronomy 18:18?
sure
Jesus said "My dad's cool guys,go see him too"