Scotland’s Gypsy, Roma and Traveller History with Nawken (Scottish Traveller) Davie Donaldson
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- “This lellum’s mangin is naggins tae (this land’s story is mine too)”.
We know that Travellers have been in Scotland since at least the 12th century. Since the medieval times, Scotland’s travelling communities have played a myriad of roles, including ballad singers, craftspeople and pearl fishers.
Travellers have been immortalised in art and literature and have contributed a lot to Scotland’s heritage.
But despite the important roles they’ve played throughout Scotland’s story, Travellers have often been pushed to the margins and have faced persecution. We rarely talk about their contributions and experiences to Scotland’s heritage.
Today many continue to travel Scotland’s roads, passing their culture and traditions to a new generation.
Watch as Nawken (Scottish Traveller) Davie Donaldson tells some of Scotland’s Traveller stories.
I'm an English Romany gypsy but my grandmother was a Young from the border of England and Scotland. The discrimination has never gone away. My father still lives by the side of the road in a caravan and told me only a few years ago that barely a week goes by without someone driving by and shouting abuse out of their car at him. He's in his late 60s now. Imagine that your whole life.
My husbands maternal side are the Youngs and we're the Baillies. x
There's only one 20 pitch Gypsy camp in Edinburgh, so most of us are council scheme Gypsies and Travellers. x
You mean reservation! Because that's all those sites are. It's disgusting the way they have stopped people camping up and down. There's a place near Appleby, People have camped for hundreds and hundreds of years, and now the council have dug it up and made it a ditch. I left England and bought my own land in Ireland last year. It's not possible to live the way our ancestors did anymore.
Nice to see travellers being shown in a positive light.... some shocking treatment even now ...I hope that this way of life is allowed to be continued
So important. Thank you
I’ve been looking for you. More content, please and thank you. 🙂
Beautiful Video, so happy to find this today.... Jami Wilson. (Gypsy Four Designs) Traveller genes never truly leave your soul.... 32 moves in 30 years of Marriage and looking forward to so many more and the beautiful landscapes and people we meet.
The podcast, The Cruelty, on bbc sounds, narrated by Davie Donaldson is brilliant.
Very interesting 😎👍 it's good to challenge your own bias and doubt.
I have centuries of my Scottish roots' genealogy, from my father, born on Shetland, buried in Morningside, Edinburgh, and I had NO idea about these peoples. So grateful for this video. It explains a lot; the ancestral pain of not being allowed to be, and why I know the name of my future Scottish Home, Garden and Farm is "BELONG HERE." All are welcome. Aloha, Blessings, Claire
Edward A. Moonstar
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Many of us dislike the term Gypsy... My Grandmother would insist in being called Romani. She was a Lowland Scots Romani. After all the term is a misidentification.
Not everyone is Romani though and people all have different preferences for what they prefer to be called. I prefer traveller. Some prefer nomad. Some prefer Romani and the list continues.
You have peaked my interest. So, the history in England, as I believe was that the Egyptians Act was enacted in 1530, whereas anti-Gypsy legislation in Scotland was enacted in 1541. The last person to be executed under this law was in 1714, whereas in England, I believe it was 1650. Looks like I need to do a little more research to see why this was. Anybody know if Scotland was independent at this time?
Hi James, hopefully we can help a bit with your question regarding the Scottish and English union. The Union of the Crowns took place in 1603 when James VI of Scotland became James I of England after the death of Queen Elizabeth I. Over 100 years later, in 1707, The Acts of Union were passed by the English and Scottish Parliaments. This led to the creation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain.
Independent? Are you for real ? What an ignorant thing to comment
@@garyjameswilson I'm a bit perplexed at this passive-aggressive comment. Please explain my ignorance
@@jamesbowring9528 you promote a fantasy way off life, with your silly way of speaking as if it’s some how mysterious and a lost civilisation, as per my previous comment , it was a horrendous way of life and the culture especially in regards to the treatment of woman was particularly brutal, my mum lived that life along with 16 other of her siblings, her brother wrote many many published books sugar coating the lifestyle and the oral tradition of story telling and it’s all BS
@@garyjameswilson There was a time when anti-Gypsy legislation was brought into existence and a time when Scotland was independent after Robert the Bruce. So, which ever, one of these facts seems to have sent you spiralling out of control on here, please let me know, as I have eluded to no treatment, on whatever side. I was just trying to ascertain whether Scotland had yet been brought under the Union by the time of the last Romani execution in Scotland
Thankyou !
Scottish traveler lifes matter
Hey coaf im a nakin too
@@utente1489 not whatever you are
This video needs updated. Gypsy's and travellers are not the same group of people. Dna is showing our history. And travellers with highland names are the Scottish Highlanders.
for me , it all started with Ancestry DNA , i became curious at my 3% "egyptian " blood , so i dug deeper and found the my origins are of the Youngs , a gypsy familly from the Scottish borders , this probably explains my love of camping and travell
Very well presented Davie..WELL DONE!
Fair play to you pall
Found out im romani or part. Of Eastern European Roma im decend from the lombards and clovis the first king of France and im also a Wallace trying to find my community my sister was told in a dream to tell me im indo Aryan she did a DNA test months later and it later said we are roma from dads side so it was true and we strangely dream the future on occasion too 😅 it scares me lol
Commonly known Scotalnds gypsies as well as Irish gypsies are not related to the Gypsies or Roma from north India. It is just a way to describe their lifestyle. They are part of Scottish history as well as Irish.
@@JinnDante incorrect
Some are Romany it’s complicated but the clans know
My ancestors The Blyths of Yetholm.
We're Baillies, David doesn't speak for any of us Romany Gypsies. x
@@GoldieDawn my a gran babas mama is a Baille xx
@@gitana7249 A barra manishi. xx 🖤
@@GoldieDawn so what Is that guy in the video?
@@utente1489 hes a nawken, a scottish traveller. Different from romany or gypsies
No group of people should be marginalized for the way they choose to live.
If society as a whole, in this day and age, claims to be inclusive then travelers should receive the same equality and respect.
My ancestors were scottish highland travelers, my great grandparents were horse dealers, as was their parents and siblings.
They immigrated to the US and Canada. And they traveled here as well and didn't live in one place for much time. And of course people had opinions of them but they lived life on their terms and were good people.
Have you got your own TH-cam channel Davie?
He doesn't speak for any of us Romany Gypsies pal. x
What language did he speak in the beginning
Scottish Cant
@@johnmackenzie4703do most of scottish travellers still speak their own langauge (cant)??
@@utente1489 I’m not sure, but I think it’s rarer nowadays
@@johnmackenzie4703i stem fron yenish people in holland (german nomad group) and we have almost completely lost our language except for some words
He spoke old Jenisch Or now called Jidisch An old Germanic language Just as old as the Germanic Jenisch are
He is actually speaking Scottish Cant
Wonderful to learn more about the history of Travellers!
Us Romany Gypsies never refer to ourselves as Travellers. x
@@GoldieDawn so true sister OPRE ROMA LATCHO DROM 🙏🏽💙❤💚
Yup scottish travellers 🐎
Majority of us here in Edinburgh are Romanichal Gypsies pal. x
Davie Donaldson is a country man
Why
He doesn't speak for any of us Romanichal Gypsies. x
Nice accent :)
Let’s just say P Diddy is like Mary Poppins in comparison
Interesting
Norways travelrs lifes matter
The curse of morally bankrupt leaders runs right through history to this day.
At least the 12th century…. Amazing….a nomadic workforce… FIFO workers of the past…
20,000 or 25,000 years ago, there were bow tents in scandanavia with animal skins- the remains have been found by archeologists- one scottish traveller family still lived in these bow tents in the 1980's. the tents had tarpaulins by then. 20,000 to 25,000 years ago these proud nomadic kings & queens were living their lives in the northern hemisphere of earth.
@@User3749cvndhkcgkwow! Where i can learn more
So as a boy born in 1967 and pickin tatties, berries, wulks and whitever the fermers put in the ground. Im now a minoritie..... any chance of reperactions.
This parallels in such an interesting way with the native Australian’s… the Aboriginal community….
Not so sure you know anything about tinkers ? And the damage that way of life did to the people who lived it ? My mother was a Tinker from Furnace next to Loch Fyne , I could tell you the real story of that way of life, not the Hollywood version you promote 😢
And I’m talking about real summer walkers or tinkers who lived in gelly tents in and around Fife, picking berries and farm working in the summer and all that BS , and yes I’m very angry about how they are looked upon as somehow a wonderful free, nomadic tribe , singing their way through history, it’s all BS …….read my comments , read the Horsieman by Duncan Williamson , it’s a sugar coated version on that lifestyle…………
Us Romany Gypsies never refer to ourselves as Travellers, we're Gipsies because that's how our ancestors first presented themselves as Egyptians, in England and Scotland, hence why there's Egyptian Acts in Scots and English Law. x
Egypt, that's what folk thought.
@@manfromnightmares.6697 Pakistan, Afghanistan as well. x
Well we used to think you guys were Egyptian.
Your really Indians. From Hajara, Punjab and Rajasthan
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 so travellers and romany gypsy are different? Because the guy in the video definitly dont look of indian ancestry😅
@@utente1489 because the travelers mixed with native Europeans.
The truth needs to be told about these people, promoting them as somehow victims is a fantasy Hollywood story , it was not brig a doon and they did not speak like this clown , I’m speaking from first hand knowledge from family history, the way off life was brutal by choice , the treatment of woman and you girls was horrific , most ran away and lived to tell the story as did my mother and her sisters…..
If he’s not factually right why don’t you tell the truth?
Scottish ……”cancel culture” ?