@@BARONsProductions you would think so. They probably do it to ensure they are never below that power or to make the cars cheaper to insure over in Europe where more performance costs more money.
@@arkarius944 It also has a lot to do with the powerband, not just the peak numbers. Weight is huge in racing as well, so it's not surprising that the porsche took it.
@@Etmanning More to do with weight and engine placement than powerband. The LT4 is going to have a far broader powerband, anyways. Having the engine in the rear means far better traction, and DCT is faster and with less drivetrain loss. Even still, the ZL1 1LE puts down faster lap times than the 992 Carrera S. And I would expect the ZL1 to start pulling hard if they were to keep going.
@@mariobotti1952 the F8 gets beaten by the McLaren 720s on a non-prepped surface. The Porsche defeats the 720s by the narrowest of margins thanks to a bloody good launch control system and all wheel drive.
I Literally laughed out loud when James said he hopes he had the support of everyone sitting on the toilet. Cause that’s exactly where I am at the moment 😂
As someone who owns a 1LE and a 911 I can say they are very different beasts. The weight disadvantage for the Camaro is hard to ignore and the 911's are underrated power wise. Good runs
The Porsche is just worth it overall to me over the Camaro. it's classy and I love that. The chevy just reminds me of some Blue collar farmer and the Porsche makes me think of Suits and bars. is there faster for the money yes, but running into one on the street will barely happen.
@@alvingeroy3242 I guess it all depends on what streets you live in lol. 911's are very common here in the Northeast. That being said, you seem stuck on stereotypes for the cars/owners vs their actual capability. I would also note that for 2021 Porsche built and sold more 911's than GM did of the Camaro. Aprprox 38.5k vs 22K the Camaro is actually more rare if you're seeking that individuality. Either way both are amazing cars and you dont go wrong with either one. I jumped to the new M3 Comp recently and loving it. Funny enough the Caddy CT4V is considered the better handling car by many which shares a chassis with the Camaro
@@wearethetraffic I live on the west coast so it's common to see everything, individuality isn't really a thing any longer lol. Porsche is a good luxury standard to live by in all aspects, and I don't know about statistics but I definitely see more Camaros out in the wild than I do 911s. I will say the Macan is a steal at 60k and the Cayenne is good too. so maybe that fluffs the higher figure by a lot, but as for 911s hell out of 330 million people they only sold 10,000 for the 2021 year and Camaro sold 21,000.. I had a 15 SS camaro for a year, it was cool but then I switched over to a simple yet more expensive 2019 m240i and people from all over would walk up and want to know about it, and we both know it wasn't anything special. I now have a 2022 GR86 because I love JDM and it was the hot new thing out, and you wont believe how many people clap at it or wave ROFL. I'll definitely pull the trigger on a newer 911 in the future, but im busy right now in flight training so it'll be a little while away. Luckily my wife makes 150k a year or I'd have dirt. 🤣🤣🤣
@@wearethetraffic oh and about the stereotypes, that is just how I am personally. You can't pull up to a 5 Star bar in a hellcat and hop out wearing a Tom ford suit and look normal hahaha. I can pull up to the Bar in a Porsche, and the Aesthetic of my self would look 100x's better.
@@alvingeroy3242 Enjoy what you drive and drive what you enjoy. The outfit or location will never make the car feel more or less good for you. The Camaro is an excellent platform in 6th gen form. Loved it... Had a FRS, shitty tires from the factory but handles amazingly well nonetheless. M240 is a fun car, solid platform and handling for sure. Cool cars dont have to be six figures. Lots of great stuff in the $30k to 50K range from the Golf R, new WRX, Mustang GT and Camaro along with the GT86/BRZ and a few others. Good luck with the future endeavors and that 911. You wont be disappointed with the 911
The PDK double clutch transmission in the Porsche much better than the 10 speed torque converter automatic transmission in the Zl1 1LE. The PDK was shifting super fast giving the Porsche the edge in race. Transmission matters.
Dolby109 so are you also one of those that are gonna complain about price being the advantage of the Porsche ? Because better engineering costs more my friend
very odd seeing my car in a video but i’m so happy to have participated in this. my baby is heavy but he did a great job, in my opinion. Z had no chance against the 911 from the jump. humbled myself when i seen it absolutely eat up the C8.
Man porsches are doing work ive watched the drag race between the 911 turbo and the lambo svj and the porsche just smoked it for half the price. And it still is a better daily than the lambo. Still ur Z is a sick ride and i love the car in white it reveals all its curves and fine details.
@@jaekimchi Glad I'm not the only one that scratched my head at that gibberish lol. Its that the Porsche blocks are underrated, cars way lighter, and the PDK trans and gearing is about as good as you can get for efficiency. Look at the 911 Turbo (actual turbo model lol), even with extra weight, and awd drag, the car is stupid fast for its rated power. The engines are just underrated and PDK is so well matched and efficient. Go to any shop and just watch, friends buddy owns USP Motors.
Andrew Kim it’s all about drivetrain losses, the closer the engine is to the wheels it is powering, the less power loss there is. Since the porsche is rear wheel drive and rear mid engine vs the camaro s rear wheel drive front engine, the porche is more efficient
The REAL REALITY is the ZL1 has an astoundingly great traction management system. Put the car is normal track mode, and stand on it. It will sort itself out with zero wheel spin and should get you deep into the 3s 0-60. I personally did 3.3 0-60 on stock tires, bone stock on the street. No drama no fuss. This isnt a hellcat...
There is something about Porsche. Always it seems one German/Porsche horsepower is equal to two horsepower for any other manufacturer. Being the lucky owner of a 2018 manual GT3, I always had a disdain for them till I bought one to see what the hype was all about and after owning Aston’s, Lamborghinis and Ferrari’s, Porsche’s are at a different level. Even the 458 and 488 I have owned in the past can’t match the feel of my GT3. And it’s not even an RS. That Porsche magic is real. It really does exist. Made me a believer. Lovely video. Very enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
I know a guy who is a driving instructor and amateur racing driver. He has driven many of those cars. His personal favorite to drive is the Ferrari 458, but he always said the GT3 was objectively the best track weapon. But after he drove the GT3RS he said you can absolutely feel the difference, and apparently the suspension bushings are a big part of that.
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No..only when you get to the top models and pay stupid money for them. The base 911 and base C8 Corvette .Corvette beats it and wins in everything from looks , obviously, cost, obviously, performance, reliability, repair costs, running costs etc.
@@dimitris9573bro, porsche is lying about the numbers, and has 500lbs less in weight, and has better aero for straight line speed. camaro would eat it on a track tho
I think that spoiler was the difference. It creates a lot of drag at high speeds. Considering that both cars were staying side by side, removing that drag would’ve made all the difference
Both cars are a thing of beauty. What no one has said is what is the cost difference? The 911 is a few buckaroonies more then the Camaro. I would say the avg joe has a better shot owning the camaro. Always fun to see your videos
supaahflyy LMAO I don’t own a American car or anything. But why must someone be broke to buy one lol? Why can’t people buy what car they want😂. Calling someone broke bc they buy a Camaro when u don’t own EITHER is stupid lmao
I have two question: 1) how many meter do you race ( meters or miles, i don't know wich one you use.)? 2) Can you give us the time you do on each race, for comparison? Thanks for your video and sorry for bad english.
@@sherif.ghoneim I think what you’re trying to say is that the Porsche is more refined. They’re the same age and current models have similar performance but the Porsche is a little more buttoned up.
@@amenallaharfaouisomething more I guess, on carwow drag test, the big brother of it, the turbo s even beats ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 720s, & lambo aventador svj. I think there are only 2 cars that can beat porsche; koenigsegg & bugatti.
The Porsche is AWD and is rear engine configuration. Rear engine cars have superior acceleration off the line. Also, the Porsche has a pdk transmission which is much quicker than the Zl1s traditional torque converter automatic transmission.
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@@kwk43 you're wrong ... the z1l lays down crazy fast lap times ... dare i say faster than a 911s i think. Don't get me wrong, i love porsche ... i have a 718 Cayman S...
Yep.... and I know people hate going down the “well if I mod it road”.... but I bet you could get the ZL1 to EASILY stomp the Porsche for less than a grand in mods.
@@robertburton8055 Every Porsche is sprinkled with a little magic dust or something. The 718 Cayman S has got to be the easiest car for a novice to go fast... it's absolutely incredible. However, the bang for your buck money with the ZL1 is off the charts.... and if you add in the 1LE package im pretty sure it spanks with porsche in a skilled drivers hands.
You guys at throttle house do an awesome job and love the videos. Your next one should be getting that Porsche Carrera s on a Dyno and see how much power that thing is punching out
6:15 Supercharger vs Turbo... I find it ironic that Porsche’s began experimenting with turbocharged racing cars in the Sixties even though GMC practically invented Turbocharging at the top of Pikes peak when Sandford Moss, head engineer of General Motors, used the thin air at Pike’s summit to test the application of turbochargers on aircraft engines in the early 1900s. Porsche has virtually eliminated turbo lag with small electric motors (prespool technology), which get the turbos spinning before you jump on the throttle.
I’ve got an A10 ZLE & actually just ran with one in an HPDE at CMP. Tough to tell being different drivers, but he gave up on trying to keep up around the track & told me how fast my car was lol. Definitely a bad ass car though & he wasn’t giving it all it had by any means.
Not sure I believe the roll race results given the difference in the 1/4 mile trap speeds of both cars. The Zl1 should steadily pull away from a roll. Both are great cars. 2019 Camaro 11.4 sec @ 127 mph 2020 Carrera S 11.2 sec @ 123.8 mph
@@drsolar actually porsche doesn't lie about power ratings. rear engine makes all the difference. no driveshaft no cv joint losses and main advantage: 60% weight over rear wheels
Pissed off at loss.. man.. always remember this.. turbos are always better than super chargers.. Also OHCs respond better to turbos than OHVs too cuz much more control to exhaust
User996 they do lie tho lol, check the Dyno numbers. Many other companies lie too tho, especially all the German companies. It’s not that big of a deal tho
Not really. The Camaro with that kit is close to 100k if I’m not mistaken and that’s the base 911 so they’re really not that far apart. If it was the turbo 911 I’d say yeah.
@@jakeballard7999 engineering means that Porsche can make a car with 200 less horspower but still win and the interior quality is amzing in a Porsche, the Camaro has just a crappy GM interior with plastic everywere
see this is why in many ways i like Throttle Dudes even MORE than the Straight Pipers. these guys do more than just reviews but get into the nitty gritty of PERFORMANCE. but no doubt both are hilarious and entertaining.
Not to mention more comfortable, better handling, light years better refinement, higher quality finishes, more reliable, higher resale value, more exclusive... should I continue?
@@gtamantube check resale on a 911S thats 3 years old. They depreciate about 5k a year for the first three years than hold steady every year after. 911's have some of the best resale value in the car world. Some gain value.
The price per mile counts - you pay more for the 911, but you also get more for it if you sale it. At the end you are also better of (price per mile) with a 911 as with a Vette.
Basically, the 997 Turbo was so good, Porsche decided to make all 911's into Turbos. Historically, turbo charged 911's have beaten just about all their contemporaries, going back to what, the mid 70's? Don't see that changing any time.
Sergio Difranco The Camaro can definitely take the Porsche on a track/circuit considering it’s hot lap time on this channel. But yeah everything else the Porsche is pretty much unrivaled.
The turbo s costs 3 times as much as the Zl1. Obviously the Porche is way nicer but if you mainly care about performance; you could also add 100 hp to the wheels to the zl1 with just a smaller pulley and e85 tune for a few $K and beat the turbo s from a roll. The handling is already right there.
I’m actually on the toilet watching me asking people on the toilet for support. James you have my support bro
Lol 😂👍
Same!!!😅
I’m on the toilet James. You have my support 😂😂😂😂
Doing the same thing!
How does it feel to make videos, and know that everyone watching is pooping? Make you feel uncomfortable?
I always say that Porsche horsepower is different from regular horsepower.
All the Germans underrate their cars these days, but what you say is still true. They always perform very well for the power.
@@arkarius944 but why do they do that it makes no sense? Wouldn't you wanna claim and market higher figures
@@BARONsProductions you would think so. They probably do it to ensure they are never below that power or to make the cars cheaper to insure over in Europe where more performance costs more money.
@@arkarius944 It also has a lot to do with the powerband, not just the peak numbers. Weight is huge in racing as well, so it's not surprising that the porsche took it.
@@Etmanning More to do with weight and engine placement than powerband. The LT4 is going to have a far broader powerband, anyways. Having the engine in the rear means far better traction, and DCT is faster and with less drivetrain loss.
Even still, the ZL1 1LE puts down faster lap times than the 992 Carrera S.
And I would expect the ZL1 to start pulling hard if they were to keep going.
Porsche 911 CS vs similar cars: Probably the 911.
Porsche 911 Turbo S vs Any Car: I wonder how far behind the other car was?
Not the Ferrari F8
@@mariobotti1952 the F8 gets beaten by the McLaren 720s on a non-prepped surface. The Porsche defeats the 720s by the narrowest of margins thanks to a bloody good launch control system and all wheel drive.
I just watched on TH-cam the F8 won the 992 turbo S......
@@mariobotti1952 send the link.
@@BuffSoldierWithBigGun and the F8 defeated the 720S on a prepped track......
The Germans only lost two times in history: world war 1 and world war 2
You forgot most Olimpic events.
@@JerseyMikeP In the summer
And it took a multi-national effort each time to beat Germany.....
Hertzair and their allies... who were multi national... and all of Europe is weak anyway
Would you go down on angela merkel for the Porsche?
I Literally laughed out loud when James said he hopes he had the support of everyone sitting on the toilet. Cause that’s exactly where I am at the moment 😂
Me too that shit was too funny
Same I was like woww😭😂
me too
Lol😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Watching this while sitting on the toilet
Felt the need to share that nha?
Same here bro
so accurate
Started there. In the shower now
Its the only way to do it
As someone who owns a 1LE and a 911 I can say they are very different beasts. The weight disadvantage for the Camaro is hard to ignore and the 911's are underrated power wise. Good runs
The Porsche is just worth it overall to me over the Camaro. it's classy and I love that. The chevy just reminds me of some Blue collar farmer and the Porsche makes me think of Suits and bars.
is there faster for the money yes, but running into one on the street will barely happen.
@@alvingeroy3242 I guess it all depends on what streets you live in lol. 911's are very common here in the Northeast. That being said, you seem stuck on stereotypes for the cars/owners vs their actual capability. I would also note that for 2021 Porsche built and sold more 911's than GM did of the Camaro. Aprprox 38.5k vs 22K the Camaro is actually more rare if you're seeking that individuality. Either way both are amazing cars and you dont go wrong with either one. I jumped to the new M3 Comp recently and loving it. Funny enough the Caddy CT4V is considered the better handling car by many which shares a chassis with the Camaro
@@wearethetraffic I live on the west coast so it's common to see everything, individuality isn't really a thing any longer lol.
Porsche is a good luxury standard to live by in all aspects, and I don't know about statistics but I definitely see more Camaros out in the wild than I do 911s. I will say the Macan is a steal at 60k and the Cayenne is good too. so maybe that fluffs the higher figure by a lot, but as for 911s hell out of 330 million people they only sold 10,000 for the 2021 year and Camaro sold 21,000..
I had a 15 SS camaro for a year, it was cool but then I switched over to a simple yet more expensive 2019 m240i and people from all over would walk up and want to know about it, and we both know it wasn't anything special. I now have a 2022 GR86 because I love JDM and it was the hot new thing out, and you wont believe how many people clap at it or wave ROFL.
I'll definitely pull the trigger on a newer 911 in the future, but im busy right now in flight training so it'll be a little while away. Luckily my wife makes 150k a year or I'd have dirt. 🤣🤣🤣
@@wearethetraffic oh and about the stereotypes, that is just how I am personally. You can't pull up to a 5 Star bar in a hellcat and hop out wearing a Tom ford suit and look normal hahaha. I can pull up to the Bar in a Porsche, and the Aesthetic of my self would look 100x's better.
@@alvingeroy3242 Enjoy what you drive and drive what you enjoy. The outfit or location will never make the car feel more or less good for you. The Camaro is an excellent platform in 6th gen form. Loved it... Had a FRS, shitty tires from the factory but handles amazingly well nonetheless. M240 is a fun car, solid platform and handling for sure. Cool cars dont have to be six figures. Lots of great stuff in the $30k to 50K range from the Golf R, new WRX, Mustang GT and Camaro along with the GT86/BRZ and a few others. Good luck with the future endeavors and that 911. You wont be disappointed with the 911
The Black Ice freshener on the ZL1 didn't help at all.
LOL.
Because it adds 60HP per tree. He just couldn’t put the power down
The PDK double clutch transmission in the Porsche much better than the 10 speed torque converter automatic transmission in the Zl1 1LE. The PDK was shifting super fast giving the Porsche the edge in race. Transmission matters.
Being a Chevy product was its greatest downfall 🤷🏼♂️
Nastiest and most disgusting smelling scent. He must have been gagging and dying in the car. LOL
My mom who is not into cars, who barely understands english was laughing. The disappointment on james's face transcends language barriers!
Not gonna lie. I just came here to see how far ahead the porche is gonna be
German engineering ^^
@PYXB3 nah just typical american car. 650hp lose to 450 hp
German engineering is over powered
@@VSS_GAMING_SHORTS and overpriced...
@@VSS_GAMING_SHORTS nah, my dad had a Porsche Cayenne, it was pretty garbo.
“The support of everyone who’s in the toilet right now 🚽 “
If you’re IN the toilet, you may have a problem there buddy...
Yesss🤣
The man knows his audience.
me rn
There’s no replacement for displacement......
Porsche : hold my stein
Well forced induction is the replacement for displacement, and both of these cars have it. The Porsche just has ~$50k more parts thrown at it.
Dolby109 so are you also one of those that are gonna complain about price being the advantage of the Porsche ? Because better engineering costs more my friend
Tonye Anyanwu not 50k better
Dolby109 oh no, that is more than just parts. You clearly have no sense for the phrase, “better engineering”.
Tristyn the Porsche is definitely $50k better in every aspect.
Me: I'll take the 911 Carrera S please
My Bank Account: GTFO
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The truest statement yet
“Currently on the toilet”😭 i left a like for that
Looking to see if I was alone 😂
Same😂
Same 😂
very odd seeing my car in a video but i’m so happy to have participated in this. my baby is heavy but he did a great job, in my opinion. Z had no chance against the 911 from the jump. humbled myself when i seen it absolutely eat up the C8.
Thanks again for bringing your car out!!!
Man porsches are doing work ive watched the drag race between the 911 turbo and the lambo svj and the porsche just smoked it for half the price. And it still is a better daily than the lambo. Still ur Z is a sick ride and i love the car in white it reveals all its curves and fine details.
Is it a correct assumption that the boost button was *not* used in the Porsche?
@@ThrottleHouse do a turbo s drag race
Respect for letting them use your car. Porsche is my favorite car but I’d love me a ZL1 any day as well.
Whatever hidden power that 911 has, I honestly thought it was going to lose against the ZL1 in the rolling race but jeez, it was so consistent.
@Eat Jat lol what
@@jaekimchi Glad I'm not the only one that scratched my head at that gibberish lol. Its that the Porsche blocks are underrated, cars way lighter, and the PDK trans and gearing is about as good as you can get for efficiency. Look at the 911 Turbo (actual turbo model lol), even with extra weight, and awd drag, the car is stupid fast for its rated power. The engines are just underrated and PDK is so well matched and efficient. Go to any shop and just watch, friends buddy owns USP Motors.
Andrew Kim it’s all about drivetrain losses, the closer the engine is to the wheels it is powering, the less power loss there is. Since the porsche is rear wheel drive and rear mid engine vs the camaro s rear wheel drive front engine, the porche is more efficient
@@-matt yes. Also, big engine weight on the wide rear tires increases traction
@@-matt It's not even rear mid engine (which would have the engine in front of the rear axle), it's rear engine (engine behind the rear axle).
I AM on the toilet... How did you know!?!
@@TheCarGuru just stop.
@@TheCarGuru 😂😂
Nothing more satisfying than watching Throttle House except watching Throttle House while taking a big dump! 😝
The REAL REALITY is the ZL1 has an astoundingly great traction management system. Put the car is normal track mode, and stand on it. It will sort itself out with zero wheel spin and should get you deep into the 3s 0-60. I personally did 3.3 0-60 on stock tires, bone stock on the street. No drama no fuss. This isnt a hellcat...
“Porsche... There is no substitute.” - Tom Cruise/ Risky Business 1983
There is something about Porsche. Always it seems one German/Porsche horsepower is equal to two horsepower for any other manufacturer. Being the lucky owner of a 2018 manual GT3, I always had a disdain for them till I bought one to see what the hype was all about and after owning Aston’s, Lamborghinis and Ferrari’s, Porsche’s are at a different level. Even the 458 and 488 I have owned in the past can’t match the feel of my GT3. And it’s not even an RS. That Porsche magic is real. It really does exist. Made me a believer.
Lovely video. Very enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
I know a guy who is a driving instructor and amateur racing driver. He has driven many of those cars. His personal favorite to drive is the Ferrari 458, but he always said the GT3 was objectively the best track weapon. But after he drove the GT3RS he said you can absolutely feel the difference, and apparently the suspension bushings are a big part of that.
Take note of this date, Thomas won ALL the races.
@@homelessgunner What the _hell_ were you thinking? A quick primer on How To TH-cam: _First_ watch the video. _Then_ read the comments. Not that hard. The _point_ of the comments is to _discuss_ what you just watched.
Alistair Willock hes dumb asf Lmfaoo
The black ice air fresheners is why the Camaro lost 😂
Dangerous black ice robbed him.
Saw the black ice are freshener, reminded me of a Rich Rebuilds episode
Lol so gross
Maybe the back ice didn't ask to be in the car. Maybe the black ice was a byproduct of the car
in these difficult times you guys bring a smile to my face.
I was like "oh nice 650 HP on the Camero. Fair fight with the Turbo S"
And then I realized this is just a Carrera S
Turbo S is at the top of the food chain.
Porsche 911, still the 'Benchmark' of all sports cars.
Relax bud
No..only when you get to the top models and pay stupid money for them. The base 911 and base C8 Corvette
.Corvette beats it and wins in everything from looks , obviously, cost, obviously, performance, reliability, repair costs, running costs etc.
@@studio-flash this porsche is base model just sport turned
The9meister : I was right about the 911 since 1978 when I was in high school.
@@studio-flash Bro, How could you even dare to compare a Corvette to a Porsche? Shame on you mate...
Thomas is going to get a good sleep today...but i think his face is gonna hurt after that cheeky smirk from winning....😄😄
quick reminder: this was basically the "base" 992... Just imagine GT3's, turbos etc..
911 or 992, no 991
@Fishermanguy44 Quick reminder that if price is your best argument against it then it's clear they did a damn good job
meh the 911 s makes more horsepower and torque than an NA gt3, if you want proof, look at the 991.2 gt3, a 992 won't get much better, same HP
Also, gt3 is a track car. It's nearly illegal to even talk about it performing on a drag strip and then being suprised that it lost
Give it the GT3’s against the exorcist... easy clap
I mean all things considered, the price gap and the weight difference but the Camaro still is able to keep up is insane
Bro the only thing that is insane is the fact that the camaro has 200+hp more and still lost.It shouldn't keep up it should destroy that porsche
@@dimitris9573 horsepower is the only thing that matters. We got an expert here.
@@PQ28120 it isn't like a 20-30 hp gap,it is 200+ wich makes the result amazing
@@dimitris9573bro, porsche is lying about the numbers, and has 500lbs less in weight, and has better aero for straight line speed. camaro would eat it on a track tho
@@eudhdddbdhd it would what??😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
The fact that you knew I was on the toilet has me rooting for the Chevy, even as a Porsche enthusiast
That porsche is gorgeous. (Respect to camaro tho)
same
The Porsche looks horrible
@@HateTheIRS To you, not others
Definitely to both of those statements
Haa each to their own..I've never called a porsche gorgeous..
Thomas normally: *sad thomas*
Thomas that day: *happy thomas*
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I think that spoiler was the difference. It creates a lot of drag at high speeds. Considering that both cars were staying side by side, removing that drag would’ve made all the difference
That Porsche just digs in! wow, What superb engineering!!!
“Black ice” was used but you didn’t use the Porsche sport response button? Let’s be fair. 😂
Isn't black ice a giveaway for a salvage car? Now we know what went wrong. Good catch
Great video guys. I like how you pit a $70k Camaro against a $140k Porsche. Shows how close in performance they are.
No, Porsche is far superior car in every aspect.
Mentions being on the toilet, quickly glaces around room to find the cameras.
Both cars are a thing of beauty. What no one has said is what is the cost difference? The 911 is a few buckaroonies more then the Camaro. I would say the avg joe has a better shot owning the camaro. Always fun to see your videos
It's ironic how Sam Witwicky thought his dad was about to buy him a Porsche, but ends up buying a Camaro.
It's all that heavy cash you have left in your pocket after buying the Camaro that is slowing you down.
Id rather have less cash and be in front lol
😂😂😂
American cars have so much cheap plastic I feel like I’m at a recycling center
Actually the guy buying a Camaro is buying that because he infact doesn't have anymore cash tbh
supaahflyy LMAO I don’t own a American car or anything. But why must someone be broke to buy one lol? Why can’t people buy what car they want😂. Calling someone broke bc they buy a Camaro when u don’t own EITHER is stupid lmao
I have two question: 1) how many meter do you race ( meters or miles, i don't know wich one you use.)?
2) Can you give us the time you do on each race, for comparison?
Thanks for your video and sorry for bad english.
1/4 mile, so 402 meters
2:09 How did you know I was on the toilet?!
It’s that time of day and what so many guys do on the toilet! Among other things! Lol 😝
Bruh….scary accurate lol
The Porsche 911 is a historic car....
And I think that the figures of the Porsche is at the wheels not the engine and that's a BIG difference.....
The 911 line is only 3 years older than the camaro line....
@@ryanrosser7916 but the 911 always pushes the boundaries of sports cars to the limit...
@@sherif.ghoneim I think what you’re trying to say is that the Porsche is more refined. They’re the same age and current models have similar performance but the Porsche is a little more buttoned up.
@@ryanrosser7916 yes Porsche is more refined with amazing driving dynamics
“ All i hear is i lost i lost i lost “ 🤣
Porsche is hiding something in that flat 6 engine!
Probably a V12
@@amenallaharfaouisomething more I guess, on carwow drag test, the big brother of it, the turbo s even beats ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 720s, & lambo aventador svj. I think there are only 2 cars that can beat porsche; koenigsegg & bugatti.
The Porsche is AWD and is rear engine configuration. Rear engine cars have superior acceleration off the line. Also, the Porsche has a pdk transmission which is much quicker than the Zl1s traditional torque converter automatic transmission.
Probably making more than 450HP anyway.
Yeah no doubt. Double clutch transmissions don't suffer loss of power and suffer less drivetrain power than torque converter automatic transmissions.
Two of my all time favorite. Different demographic, same mission, a million smiles per liter.
The fact that they are even comparing a Porsche and a canary is a compliment to a comaro
Ah yes, canary and comaro
I didn't expect the ZL1 to even be close, so this test was an impresseive show for Chevrolet. Especially cost considered.
Magical rear-view mirror ornament, appears at 3:33, disappears at 3:39 and then magically reappears at 3:43. I knew there were supernormal powers behind the incredible growth of this channel
All I hear James saying is, "I almost had you."
Almost had me......you never had your car
We all know those pine air fresheners added the weight that held the Camaro back
If anything good came out of 2020 it is the extra time I had to enjoy all your videos...thanks
Hands down you guys have the best automotive review channel on TH-cam.
YALL BETTER STOP DISRESPECTING BLACK ICE DAMMIT.
he only lost because the black ice adds 60HP per tree and he struggled to put the power down
🤣😂🤣😂
well, at least the ZL1 is about half the price of the porsche...
doesn't come close to Porsche's racing and luxury abilities tho. However for straight lining it, yes - go for the ZL1
Basically every american vs german car
@@kwk43 you're wrong ... the z1l lays down crazy fast lap times ... dare i say faster than a 911s i think. Don't get me wrong, i love porsche ... i have a 718 Cayman S...
Yep.... and I know people hate going down the “well if I mod it road”.... but I bet you could get the ZL1 to EASILY stomp the Porsche for less than a grand in mods.
@@robertburton8055 Every Porsche is sprinkled with a little magic dust or something. The 718 Cayman S has got to be the easiest car for a novice to go fast... it's absolutely incredible. However, the bang for your buck money with the ZL1 is off the charts.... and if you add in the 1LE package im pretty sure it spanks with porsche in a skilled drivers hands.
You guys at throttle house do an awesome job and love the videos. Your next one should be getting that Porsche Carrera s on a Dyno and see how much power that thing is punching out
6:15 Supercharger vs Turbo... I find it ironic that Porsche’s began experimenting with turbocharged racing cars in the Sixties even though GMC practically invented Turbocharging at the top of Pikes peak when Sandford Moss, head engineer of General Motors, used the thin air at Pike’s summit to test the application of turbochargers on aircraft engines in the early 1900s. Porsche has virtually eliminated turbo lag with small electric motors (prespool technology), which get the turbos spinning before you jump on the throttle.
Porsche - $117,000
ZL1 - under $80,000
572 Copo Camaro - $105,000
572 Copo Camaro would like to have a word with Porsche.
When u said the toilet line I lifted my arm off my thigh and liked the video
"And I'm James" is the "And Peggy" of automotive TH-cam. He's just so happy to be there. Makes me giggle every time.
I hate myself for getting this joke, but they do carry the same energy tho
The over boost probably take the carrera 4 to 500hp and 600Nm
I’ve got an A10 ZLE & actually just ran with one in an HPDE at CMP. Tough to tell being different drivers, but he gave up on trying to keep up around the track & told me how fast my car was lol. Definitely a bad ass car though & he wasn’t giving it all it had by any means.
Damn bruh, man's calling me out, how'd he know I was on the toilet??? 1:45
Maybe TMI, but I was on the toilet cheering on James.
Not sure I believe the roll race results given the difference in the 1/4 mile trap speeds of both cars. The Zl1 should steadily pull away from a roll. Both are great cars.
2019 Camaro 11.4 sec @ 127 mph
2020 Carrera S 11.2 sec @ 123.8 mph
Porsche under reports their hp figures. The way they perform just defies what they report
there is more to the performance of a car than horsepower.
@@ObieStill27 while I agree hp still makes a difference. The Porsche beats many exotics that have higher stated hp figures.
@@drsolar actually porsche doesn't lie about power ratings. rear engine makes all the difference. no driveshaft no cv joint losses and main advantage: 60% weight over rear wheels
Pissed off at loss.. man.. always remember this.. turbos are always better than super chargers..
Also OHCs respond better to turbos than OHVs too cuz much more control to exhaust
User996 they do lie tho lol, check the Dyno numbers. Many other companies lie too tho, especially all the German companies. It’s not that big of a deal tho
Charlie's ANGELES, THATS WHAT THIS CHANNEL REMINDS ME OF
I too was on the toilet when James asked for my support. Can't say I've been more fulfilled in my life.
Bro just Bad dtiver the Zl1 guy.
"I hate when he's happy"
LMAO
If you didn't now
"You are watching throttle house"
That rear wing adds drag!
How did you know I am on the toilette?? You have my support James!
Those cars are not “neck and neck all things considered” since the 911 fairly won every time.
Still love my Chevy's
According to Cobb Tuning the Porsche is making 403whp, assuming 15% drivetrain loss that is 475 crank hp or 60HP higher than advertised.
The Porsche costs almost twice as much. Just tune the Camaro if you want your groceries home faster.
Yo I was dying when he said...all I'm hearing is I lost, I lost, I lost LMAO 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know what Porsche is hiding, it's almost double the price.
Not really. The Camaro with that kit is close to 100k if I’m not mistaken and that’s the base 911 so they’re really not that far apart. If it was the turbo 911 I’d say yeah.
@@556m4 That Camaro starts at $65k and the 1LE is $71k there's a 30-40k and higher depending on options between the two.
@@556m4 Just went to Cars.com and looked, small option of Porsches, but out of the few, it was about a $60-$65,000 difference on average.
“You’re watching Throttle Hoose.”
Comparing a 911 to a ZL1 is like comparing a Ruth's Chris Sirloin to a Wal-Mart steak...
I don't think many people cross shop 911s and camaros. but interesting comparisons, but they are apples to oranges
I'd like to see these two on track. Might go slightly different...hard to say.
The ZL1 has a faster Nurburgring time than the 992 Carrera S. And it was set 3 years ago in 2017.
@@vernonprice5986 Yes I know, and it's beat the previous GT3 on several tracks. It all depends on the driver and the course.
The fact that a ZL1 can even do this, is beyond impressive!
$115 vs $70K - The 911 should DOMINATE in ever category, but barley inches out, Ill take the Camaro all day
It does dominate in every category.
It's all about the price to performance ratio! Chevy easily did the better job here.
Yeah but the 911 is a way better car overall (not just performance) interior quality, engineering, practicality, tech etc.
@@kristians2704 - Antiquated interior design from the 70s - engineering ? We can’t be talking about the 911
@@jakeballard7999 engineering means that Porsche can make a car with 200 less horspower but still win and the interior quality is amzing in a Porsche, the Camaro has just a crappy GM interior with plastic everywere
Funny how you need only a carrera S , not a turbo S or something to beat the best camaro
Imagine a Carrera 4s, during launch, it would beat the Camaro even more...
A 50k more for the price what do u expect sir
Wael Hfd - Funny how the porsche costs almost twice as much and will be half as reliable as the Camaro.
@@DesertStateInEU haha yup Porsche is a super car and Camaro is a budget sport car 😊 and still it made great result
@gl0inup "no options" I bet u have never sat in a Porsche before🤪
The biggest complement “it’s not even the turbo” but it is a turbo.
see this is why in many ways i like Throttle Dudes even MORE than the Straight Pipers. these guys do more than just reviews but get into the nitty gritty of PERFORMANCE. but no doubt both are hilarious and entertaining.
Seems like Porsche is still making the best cars in the world.
For straight line, sure. What happens when you put these two on a race track? Different outcome.
@@arkarius944 you're implying a Camaro will out-handle a Porsche...?
@@Shinglesdoctor for half the price, yup.
That Camaro would crush that 911 on a road course. The steering is really confidence inspiring.
@@arkarius944 Show us some lap times from the "Ring
Am sorry everyone am still gonna buy the Camaro, because I can actually afford it and it’s not gonna cost me that much to work on it!
Exactly. Plus you can get ZL1s for like 45-55k. That Porsche is like 120-135k.
you know what they say: you get what you pay for
@@manuelmartineznusn yes you do. 250 dollar oil changes. I dumped my 991. ridiculous dealer games
The difference in price will pay for A LOT of tires.
It's all about that price to performance ratio! The ZL1 easily is the better one overall, when realistically looking at it.
How is it they know I’m always watching them on the porcelain throne…….???
Guys, if you’ve never driven a ZL1 before, it is STUPIDLY fast. The fact that a Carrera S took it down is truly mind boggling to me.
Half a car length costs an extra 60 grand? I’ll keep my money for headers
Not to mention more comfortable, better handling, light years better refinement, higher quality finishes, more reliable, higher resale value, more exclusive... should I continue?
Lee F which one? They all depreciate like a rock
@@leef1500 it's not better handling than the ZL1 1LE.
@@gtamantube check resale on a 911S thats 3 years old. They depreciate about 5k a year for the first three years than hold steady every year after. 911's have some of the best resale value in the car world. Some gain value.
@@williamwilson5125 I still say price for price; depreciation for depreciation; I would take the zl1
How about a car closer to the price now? 2019 zr1 if you can go find one that you can play with.
The price per mile counts - you pay more for the 911, but you also get more for it if you sale it. At the end you are also better of (price per mile) with a 911 as with a Vette.
Porsche, you simply get what you pay for
Basically, the 997 Turbo was so good, Porsche decided to make all 911's into Turbos. Historically, turbo charged 911's have beaten just about all their contemporaries, going back to what, the mid 70's? Don't see that changing any time.
Btw the Porsche 911 turbo s can beat a Lamborghini aventador svj and a Ferrari 812 super fast so just get a Porsche
I lost by 5 car lengths though I was matching his speed at the end...
Yeah it's called off the line grip...getting the power down...hooking up. If you knew ANYTHING about racing
It's called engine displacement. Rear engine configuration cars have superior acceleration off the line to front engine cars do.
@@johnlukach4091 how did the Zl1 loose considering it has more HP ???
Porsche Horses vs Chevy’s Ponies.
two extra cylinders, a better sounding exhaust, 30k less
@@KoRnrulesM6 and one worse car, wich does EVERYTHING worse.
@@sergiodifranco4380 lol
Sergio Difranco The Camaro can definitely take the Porsche on a track/circuit considering it’s hot lap time on this channel. But yeah everything else the Porsche is pretty much unrivaled.
@@sergiodifranco4380 for $30-50k more it better
I guess the aerodynamics of the Porsche really helped this one.
Hearing James ask for the support of everyone sitting on the toilet, while sitting on the toilet, I just spit out my ice cream all over the wall
Why are you eating ice cream on the toilet💀
Imagine the turbo s
The zl1 would still be at the starting line 😂
The turbo s costs 3 times as much as the Zl1. Obviously the Porche is way nicer but if you mainly care about performance; you could also add 100 hp to the wheels to the zl1 with just a smaller pulley and e85 tune for a few $K and beat the turbo s from a roll. The handling is already right there.
Give credit when credit is due hat's off to the camaro for the effort it put.