The commentary and text of this clip are very humble and honest, and this is FANTASTIC. 💪🏻💪🏻 Ok, the diver made mistakes, but we have all made mistakes. I feel that this video will helps others not to, and could well save someone's life one day. 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thank you for sharing this, especially in such a narcissisitic world we live in, too often fuelled by social media expectations. 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻
I completely agree, especially in this sport. There are those who refuse to respect those who admit to weakness and even exaggerate another’s weakness to make themselves look better. We have all committed errors as none of us were born mermaids or mermen.. We are human after all and learn as we go.. Bravo on admitting your responsibility in this incident..🎊 🎉❤
Wait, you give the sign for low air to your buddy and he nods, points to a direction, AND BOLTS OFF AT FULL SPEED? Lmao, what?! I know it's not the same as out of air, but he could at least have checked your SPG and kept in mind that he should stick close and maybe share air. Lessons for all parties here.
I laughed while reading your comment. I was thinking the same thing.. "Where is he going??" Lol. I'm happy things turned out ok, and I became a safer diver because of it. Cheers!
I would not dive with such body, who does not understand, that you out of air. Good that you alive without injuries. Please save some money and buy Suunto or anything with colour display and Wireless manometer SPG. After few dives you will understand how much it can save you from injuries : eardrum rupture descend and accend, air consumption meter, all RED screen alarms, digital fast compass navigation and more
Exactly my thoughts! That’s not a safety buddy procedure at all. Hell nah better to dive along and be responsible for yourself than trust in someone like that guy lol
lol i was thinking the same thing. Actually, i was thinking he was "getting keithed" (an expression used at my work to refer to an ex employee who was notorious for doing the job wrong, therefore making everyone else's lives harder) it's really funny to me that the dive master not sharing air is also named keith.
There is some what incorrect. If you are diving with your buddy and he has enough comprehension to read his gauge and is very aware that he is low on air, I wouldn't even look once and I will dart him and myself to the line and then to the surface immediately. In emergency situations like this, every little second matters. He could've lost consciousness in mere seconds and everything could've went wrong.
Giving the ok was probably the most severe mistake. You should've asked for air at that point already, if not before. Good lesson to be learned, thanks!
Ever single time I scuba dived, when we compared air everyone had to tell how much air he had. Isn't it the same for everyone ? Do professional scuba divers skip that ?
Depending on your depth if I were you I probably would have done a controlled emergency ascent as soon as my buddy started swimming away instead of towards me
It's for this exact reason I carry a 6 CU spare air bottle. People laugh at them but I could've ascended to 15ft, and had a solid 3 min safety stop no problem. at 200psi, there's no way I would've dove down deeper... that's crazy
He actually is a good dude, and I have dove with him since. However I always have my permanent buddy with me (wife) after this happened. That day I tagged along with the group and had no "planned" buddy, and that was also a bad idea on my end.
The lesson should have been don't dive with "the florida diver". He didn't monitor his air, gave the ok signal multiple times when he wasn't actually ok, and almost killed himself.
I am a Divemaster and I can certainly point out that the others AND especially your buddy (or the lack of) are as much to blame as yourself. In a LOW air situation you NEVER go deeper (unless inside an overhead exit isn’t available).
It was indeed a cluster****! I'm kind of glad I had this lesson, because I have since become more self reliant. And I couldn't agree more with your comment! Cheers
More videos like this needed to show the dangers of not being decisive when things look like they might not be as OK as you think... Great video, glad ur alive to dive again 🙏🏻
love the honesty! this is a great lesson to all current and future divers. we all make mistakes but learning from those mistakes is what makes us better and safer divers. glad you made it out safe and were able to put ego aside to help out others! awesome vid bro. safe diving!
Thank you for sharing this.... this is so scary but so enlightening for a new driver to understand....confidence is dangerous and no one is a burden when diving....I will never forget this
I’m sure you know but your experience shows it needs to be reminded to all..... IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR ON A DIVE THAT CANNOT BE FIXED EASILY... END THE DIVE AND HEAD TO THE SURFACE NOW!!!!!!!! Glad you lived to share your experience!
This is 1,000 times better than the other accident vids I see. Took accountability and learned. Good insights for beginners and humble commentary as well
Thank you for this educational video, I enjoyed your review of what went wrong and how it could've been better managed. I am a new diver and shared experiences like these are great for my own learning. Cheers!
Wow… you are awesome for sharing this. So many lessons to learn, but thank you for sharing. You made mistakes, but so did “Keith”. Aside from some time to revisit diving safety, I’d sign up for a rescue diver course and never let embarrassment get in the way of safety. Can’t thank you enough for your humility in sharing this… everyone makes mistakes, but only a few are big enough to help others learn from them!!!
Dont be afraid to give that out of gas sign if you know you're dangerously close to empty and you still dont know when the dive is about to end. News flash. If im in reserve pressure, The dive is over. we're making our ascent. (safely of course)
I completely agree! Ever since this incident, i became much more conscious about safety, and planning dives with contingencies. I appreciate the feedback Kyle, thanks for watching!
I brought another diver up from 140fsw once he was out of air. When we got back to the dock and unloaded our gear . As I'm pulling out of the parking lot ,he runs up to tell me thanks ,he said he wouldn't have made it with out my help .
Yeah at the point you give a low on air signal and your buddy is swimming fast against the current away from you. That's the point I would really consider doing a controlled ascent on my own. Hope you had a talk about this.
Wow bro! Glad you’re okay! You took a HUGE Chance deciding to continue descending and chasing after Keith for air but also pretty brave for giving him the okay when you were ways away from okay.
You are not alone when it comes to feeling shame for thumbing a dive, feeling like you're letting the rest of the team down and even posting this video. However, it's important to always remember that anyone can thumb a dive at any time for any reason. Sometimes it's an annoying convenience which hurts pride at the moment, but pride isn't worth your or someone else's life. Thanks for posting this video; it's good for others to learn. I also watched some of your other video's and you do a really good job in your editing. Wish you didn't stop... :)
At the end of the video his mouth piece is just floating, if it wasn't for his instructor it would've been his body that would be floating. He ran into a very dangerous situation, good thing he kept calm and realized that he is in trouble and alerted the instructor. No need to be embarrassed, you are safe and so is everyone else. Fuck EGO. Glad you are okay. Many lessons to learn from this for people diving.
Great honest video! I hope other divers watch and learn from this. I also hope it does not keep you from diving again. Take the lesson to heart and become a better diver for it.
I know this is a very old video but i will never understand this mentality of not sharing air if one diver is low. When i started diving i was a air hog and to not cut the dive short my diveguide would check up on me mid dive and ask for my air. If i was getting to around 100(+-1500PSI) bars while the rest was at 130(1800)-150(2100) he would hand me his secondary and instruct me to hold his manifold and hover above him while i continued the dive. When we ascended to around 10 meters i would go back on my own air and finish the dive. No drama no dives cut short and everybody happy. And if u ever find yourself in this situation, just shallow up and enjoy the view from above if visibility permits it(signal this to your buddy btw).
This is great advice, shallowing up is how I started before gaining more experience, it keeps everything manageable! I always followed the group from above, never to far though. It really helped me a lot. beginners feel they have to be in the group at all times, that’s not the case, as long as group is visible, you can swim above group and see the same things on 50-60 foot dives.
Thanks for sharing this video, I have been there ONCE, exact same attitude and feelings, I assumed I was following my buddy to the ascend line around a wreck at 75 feet and he was actually NOT GOING THERE. I became out of air at around 110 PSI in my computer, even though my gauge showed just below 100 PSI and could no longer breath, I was able to maintain very calm, and reach out to my buddy and signaled NO AIR and there his octopus was. Lessons learned, great video, great story, really appreciated it.
On your air meter you will see numbers indicating the amount of air in your tank. You will also notice a red color when the needle reaches 500lbs. That means you end the dive and do a controlled ascend to the surface. When I get to the 20’ mark I’ll hold there and undo my marker buoy to send it to the surface. To see the needle in the red and dive deeper is a risk.
Appreciate you being honest about your mistakes. Glad you're still here to acknowledge it publicly. You and Keith both failed here. Regular buddy or not, you both should know the "rules" of diving. Your first priority is your own life, your second is your buddies. When you're at 1000psi, yours, and everyone else's dive, is over. I'm probably anal but... You need to be on the boat with minimum 500lbs. That remaining air wasn't for you, that air was for your buddy if he had had an emergency. Hope everyone watching learned from this. A-hole buddy, and you're not at the ascent point, deploy your smb, and start your safe ascent. And wait for the boat to pick you up.
Well he signaled low on air. Could've meant 70 bar, 50 bar, 30 bar depending on personal interpretation. There's usually no clear threshold for that signal and of course the urgency depends on the dive profile. But definitely time to ask how much air, then call the dive and ascend! Swimming away back to the anchor line was a bad idea, even worse at such a distance from his buddy. They should've gotten close and made a safe ascent right there, potentially skipping the safety stop.
Wow that Keith is a complete tool. I hope I never get to dive with someone like that. I know you made some mistakes but when you signalled low air and he just started swimming down quickly I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing. And then you catch him, tug his fin and let him know you are in trouble and he just swims away again. Unbelievable! What sort of 'buddy' is that.
100% completely ignores any sort of proper dive protocol. swimming fast, burning more air, ignoring signals, not staying close, not providing air... literally wtf.
In Keith's defense, this diver told him he was low on air when it was already becoming critical. Keith may not know how low and Keith rushed to bring the diver to the anchor line. When Keith stopped mid-way to check on his buddy, he received an "ok" You don't do that if you're not ok. The swim they did was short distance and a couple of minutes, in a typical scenario that's not a lot of time to suck down as much gas as the OP did. This is a perfect example of poor communication and planning. I don't blame Keith here at all, the OP needed to signal and let the team know much earlier. It's also NOT ok to give the ok sign if everything isn't ok. That's not on Keith, it's on the OP and he properly took credit for that mistake in the video. The good news is everyone else gets to learn this in the comfort of their own home.
God bro, I've watched 100s of Scuba Videos (never done so - I don't have the testicular fortitude) - the BEST decision made was continually following his friend (even if blindly at times it seems) because had he actually became "over confident" he could have panicked but didn't... Kudos
This was infuriating to watch, as soon as your buddy saw you were low on air he should have first offered his octopus to you. Watching you try to chase him down had me pulling out my hair lol. Thanks for the video and commentary, I’m just about to finish my Open Water Cert so I will take this lesson to heart.
I was almost in a similar situation, but there was enough air for a security stop. I also fell behind the guide (aka the body) since I have a cramp in my leg))) Then I still found communication with him and he escorted me to the yacht for a safety stop and waited with me for all 3 minutes. And I left the water at 20 bars. After this event, I bought myself an underwater bell))))
Thanks! It was definitely an unpleasant experience. For me, a fear of falling makes total sense and is clear cut, falling or not falling. The thing that got me, was not to recognize that i was falling.
This is why I always carry my pony bottle. I have a 19cf pony. I’ve tested it from 80 and 100 ft. At 80 ft I can come up normal and do safety stop. At 100ft I could come up normal but ran out of air on the safety stop. Had to switch back to main tank. I dive in Jupiter and palm beach area in Florida, all drift dives and current rips at times. If you are in front of your buddy, you are not gonna make it to him. That’s why I carry a pony so I have a back up and am self reliant. Get one, best investment you’ll ever make.
Thanks Dee! I learned a lot that day, and since then, am more conscious about diving safely. Now that we're talking about it, I would love to return to that location. I was able to enjoy it the first time, but only brief period.
Looks like you were also using your hands to swim quite a bit and this actually slows you down and causes you to exert more oxygen and breathe harder. Great way to take accountability and share with others the mistakes!
*always* check your buddy’s air regularly and ask him to check yours. If you’re low, they should be taking charge of the situation and making sure you both get to the surface as safely and as soon as possible. I really don’t understand why your buddy has made you swim back to the anchor line. You should be able to make a controlled ascent in open water with buoyancy control sufficient for your safety stop
My dad and grandfather both dove into there 80’s. They started in the 50’s and new Jacque Cousteau. They also were sherif divers for many years doing recovery’s of body’s over 200 feet in the pungent sound. They both taught me buddy breathing kills! No your limitations. My dad had multiple 150 foot out of air accents when he was still using a single 72 with a j valve. He laughed you would occasionally forget to reset it when airing up. You would pull the valve lever and realize you didn’t have that 500 pounds you were expecting.
Those J valves, or as they call them now.. "junk" valves seemed like a real pain in the butt. I have heard many stories of people leaving their reserve open, and finding out they ran the tank dry. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
Shit. Scary when you are almost out of air and do not know which way is up or down. You can decide up is down and vice versa, swimming away in panic dying.
Amateurs hold the anchor rhode going down and up. It can get tangled on you or equipment both ways. When it's time to surface, it's TIME TO SURFACE! If anyone is upset that you cut the dive "early" find another partner.
If your DM saw your psi was already 900 and not told you to ascend, SHAME ON HIM. I'd also recommend getting a noisemaker (squawker that installs on your inflator hose). Thank god you survived to tell the tale ... remember to practice your smb skills too, that could save your life
When I’m the lowest common denominator in the group I make sure to keep my buddy and the guide or whoever’s leading fully appraised of my air situation
Where the fuvk are you going keith? My buddy is not in a good condition since she kept vomitting on boat but insisted she is going down.. it was a course for my A1 license and the instructor let her descend... i was overly cautious and always swam near her.. like literally grabbing her hand.. while we still green i have a decent buoyancy but she kept having trouble from time to time... i kept checking her psg and ask her if she was okay... near the end she told me she had problem and strated want to go up and we go up leaving the group behind
Subbed using this as an extra study guide for my rescue license. I’ve had a low air in a strong down current before, it’s a horrible feeling can’t imagine the out of air feeling lol
It seems as if you and/or your buddy were not comfortable ascending while not on the anchor line? It looks like he was swimming fast trying to get you and him to the line, not realizing that you were so critically low on air. Why was there such desperation to get to the line?
Piss on that anchor line, you are in charge of yourself, and DO NOT NEED ANYONEs PERMISSION to ABORT a DIVE. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, DIVE WITH IN YOUR LIMITS, you CAN NEVER GO WRONG DIVING THAT WAY.
I had the same thing happen to me in Bahamas June 2019. I kept floating up and separating from my group. The harder I tried swimming down, the faster I went up without checking my gauge. I didn’t know what was happening but had no energy when I reached the surface. The boat was still far and my team was still down there. I kinda panicked and blacked out when waves were hitting my face, leg cramping, swallowing water. 10 mins later I made it to the ladder. I threw up 3 times and just laid down without moving the whole time. I couldn’t even do the 2nd dive with them. It took me like an hour to be able to walk again.
Wow that experience sounds intense! It truly is exhausting to be in such a dangerous situation. If you were anything like me, my brain was working just as hard as my body. I was trying to think of all the possible outcomes and what I should do next. Unfortunately, my biggest problem was deciding not to surface sooner. Glad your okay, and hope your still spending some time on the bottom! Cheers
The Florida Diver thank you. Actually, 5 months later was worse. I had a panic attack inside a cave. Like some final destination shit hehe. Video on my page. My last dive was in Brazil in January. It went well. My next dive is on Saturday in devil’s den. I’ve made enough mistakes not to repeat them. I’ll post the video when it’s done.
The Florida Diver I don’t think my brain was working at all. First mistake was diving while being sick and hungover the next day. When I was separating from my team, I didn’t want to embarrass myself so I kept trying to swim down for 5 minutes but kept going up instead. I was so confused what was happening. They didn’t teach me this in training that when the aluminum tank starts emptying, you will float up so when I reached the surface where I needed all my energy, It felt like I had run a marathon and that’s when it started getting scary. Yeah I don’t think I would know what to do in your situation underwater. Be careful down there
@@devilfish3034 oh dang! I love cavern diving, but don't think I could get into cave. There are so many factors that could turn the dive into a nightmare, and I just like to relax. I have thought about tech diving, for depth and bottom time. But at the end of the day, I love the dives I currently do AOW and don't want to add more complicated plans in the mix.. not yet anyway.
@@TheFloridaDiver Take your time. I just became full cave diver, after several years of tech diving, something I'd never thought I'd do. Five years ago I wouldn't have been at the right mindset and ability level for this, but several tech courses and lots of experience finally made me feel I was ready. It's been an awesome experience. But yeah, cave diving is the black belt. No need to rush. And tech training from top instructors is so worth it.
good thing you didnt try to surface by urself that wouldve been a death sentence. i had a similar experience ran out at 100 feet and had to use my buddy's air... i was bugging out on the decon stops you keep thinking if you ran out of air your buddy must be pretty low too.
I always thought "if something goes wrong, i can handle the stress no problem". But on this particular dive, with no buddy system, things just kept getting worse and worse. The internal battle in my head was intense! I couldn't decide what the best option was, meanwhile watching my air drop to nothing. The biggest problem was knowing our dive boat had the anchor set by another diver. If i had gone for the surface, they wouldn't have been able to pull anchor and come get me. I decided against surfacing alone, which i agree with you, it wouldn't have been a good idea. So i tried as hard as i could to keep up with the divemaster / guide. But i was so winded, and couldn't catch my breath.. I didn't think i was going to make it. There were multiple times i just stopped swimming and thought about going for the surface, regardless of the outcome. But when i finally saw the anchor line, i was the happiest man alive! It was a huge scare, and since has made me a much safer diver. I'm glad it happened, but wouldn't want to go through that ever again! Appreciate you watching and leaving feedback. Have a good day!
@@oioionionone It was definitely a hard choice. My "buddy" got pretty far away, and i was begging my regulator to keep giving me another breath so i could chase after him. But if i could go back, i think i would have began my accent no later than 600psi in the tank. No matter what, i can complete my safety stop, and surface normally without worry. And then i would pop the SMB and hope the boat can see me. It was just a weird situation, knowing that the boat was physically tied to the wreck, and the fear of not surfacing by the boat really stressed me. Luckily i get to dive the same site this month, with the same crew, but my permanent buddy (wife) will be there too. Unless this storm turns north, then i will continue waiting. A redemption dive.. If you will.
thanks for being honest. i do the same i get to video all our groups dives & im all over the place to try to get video. i have switched to lp95s and at least a 30cf bailout. for my safety and the others as i dive with divers being trained or just trained. i have been on several dives where i have handed off my pony or had to hand off my air toward the end of a dive. 1 rule we let them know if they take the pony they pay for the fill it kind of helps them keep a eye on their air.
Good idea to bring one. I've switched to sidemount because of back problems and can't tell you how nice it feels to have two tanks and two separate regs. Recently had an o-ring burst at depth. No big deal. Just close that tank and end the dive with the other one.
Happened to my buddy diving on a wreck in South Australia. Faulty equipment caused his air to go in no time but i saw it escaping and actually was the one to tell him hes gonna be out . Was no stress we shared a reg the way back and up. I only had 1 reg working for some reason i cant remember now as it was about 31 years ago now . Sound along time ago but when your getting old it feels like a year ago.
The USS Mindanao is at 85 feet so i assume youre around 70-80ft in most of this video. At 200psi when he takes off I'd be making a free ascent and getting ready to CESA if OOA. If that anchor line was farther off you were gonna be doing a CESA from 70'...
As a diver I think its good that you upload this Video, admitting some of the mistakes you made. My first dive-teacher hammered this lesson into me: be humble - stay safe. The more experience you get - the more you will focus on safety. As you said - you gave some "ok"-signs already in a "not ok" mood (which in my opinion led the dive master to the idea, that this few meters more to go are ok). From my perspective, im often the one with the most air left - but even when other diver canceled the dive because of any reason(they were freezing, had ANY problem) - no one ever, me included, made any reproach. I think the diver community is in most cases a real great one - buddies-types (despite "fuck up buddy- there is a turtle and my instagram is low on content"-people xD)
Yep, I will just pretend because I ran out of air and couldn't speak anymore 🤣 Oh well, equipment changes over time, but now I am too busy to make any videos. Cheers
I did realize one time on a shark dive our times was about to finish but it wasn’t. Luckily for me I just surface at 400psi but that was the first time I feel I was about to run out of air becase of that and because with sharks you don’t want to be at the surface waiting for the boat to pick you.
Isn't it a crazy feeling when running low? When you feel your high pressure hose begin to bend easily, that's when my anxiety really hit me. I started to wonder how accurate my pressure guage was, and if it had less than it was reading. Thanks for sharing your story, I can't wait to see some more sharks! Cheers
The Florida Diver yeah is awful experience to go through. We should meet up one day and dive together. I’m currently using underwater a Nikon Z6 setup for stills and a Sony for video. I’m in Port Saint Lucie FL I mostly dive in west palm beach and jupiter but I’m down to travel as well.
Well, i have never used a speargun in my life (however, it is legal in florida with scuba). They spear a few fish and eat them, so no, my lesson was not about spearfishing whatsoever.
That was a comedy of errors. When you had 900 lbs a slow ascent would have been easy. Better to be on the surface and breathing than out of air on the bottom. At 400 lbs instead of going up, you swim hard going down burning even more air and making your valve and reg work harder to deliver air. Apparently your dive leader needs to learn to take your signals a little more seriously and actually look at your gauge and stay with you instead of swimming away. Wow! Glad you made it.
@@andys2856 don't let one mistake stop your curiosity of diving. It's generally very safe, and out of a couple hundred dives, I have only put myself in this situation one time. It's a ton of fun and very relaxing to enjoy some silence underwater. I hope you go for it! I wish I would have started diving much sooner.
I would not dive with such body, who does not understand, that you out of air:) But you also you are disaster. I had during my DM few students, who are OK, but uit of air. Thats why I always continue checking by myself :) Good that you alive without injuries. Please save some money and buy Suunto or anything with colour display and Wireless manometer SPG. After few dives you will understand how much it can save you from injuries : eardrum rupture descend and accend, air consumption meter, all RED screen alarms, digital fast compass navigation and more
Since the incident, i have become a much safer diver. I'm actually progressing to technical diving this year, after getting serious about dive planning and dive safety. I agree that i made plenty of mistakes on this dive, mainly by giving the ok signal while being on reserve air. There wasn't any computer that could have saved me, because i knew i was running out and didn't do anything about it.. Lol. Cheers!
The commentary and text of this clip are very humble and honest, and this is FANTASTIC. 💪🏻💪🏻
Ok, the diver made mistakes, but we have all made mistakes.
I feel that this video will helps others not to, and could well save someone's life one day. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for sharing this, especially in such a narcissisitic world we live in, too often fuelled by social media expectations. 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻
I completely agree, especially in this sport. There are those who refuse to respect those who admit to weakness and even exaggerate another’s weakness to make themselves look better. We have all committed errors as none of us were born mermaids or mermen.. We are human after all and learn as we go.. Bravo on admitting your responsibility in this incident..🎊 🎉❤
Wait, you give the sign for low air to your buddy and he nods, points to a direction, AND BOLTS OFF AT FULL SPEED? Lmao, what?!
I know it's not the same as out of air, but he could at least have checked your SPG and kept in mind that he should stick close and maybe share air.
Lessons for all parties here.
I laughed while reading your comment. I was thinking the same thing.. "Where is he going??" Lol. I'm happy things turned out ok, and I became a safer diver because of it. Cheers!
I would not dive with such body, who does not understand, that you out of air.
Good that you alive without injuries.
Please save some money and buy Suunto or anything with colour display and Wireless manometer SPG. After few dives you will understand how much it can save you from injuries : eardrum rupture descend and accend, air consumption meter, all RED screen alarms, digital fast compass navigation and more
Exactly my thoughts! That’s not a safety buddy procedure at all. Hell nah better to dive along and be responsible for yourself than trust in someone like that guy lol
lol i was thinking the same thing. Actually, i was thinking he was "getting keithed" (an expression used at my work to refer to an ex employee who was notorious for doing the job wrong, therefore making everyone else's lives harder) it's really funny to me that the dive master not sharing air is also named keith.
There is some what incorrect. If you are diving with your buddy and he has enough comprehension to read his gauge and is very aware that he is low on air, I wouldn't even look once and I will dart him and myself to the line and then to the surface immediately. In emergency situations like this, every little second matters. He could've lost consciousness in mere seconds and everything could've went wrong.
Giving the ok was probably the most severe mistake. You should've asked for air at that point already, if not before. Good lesson to be learned, thanks!
Ever single time I scuba dived, when we compared air everyone had to tell how much air he had. Isn't it the same for everyone ? Do professional scuba divers skip that ?
I respect the honesty man. Hard to stay humble sometimes. Glad your ok, God bless
Depending on your depth if I were you I probably would have done a controlled emergency ascent as soon as my buddy started swimming away instead of towards me
My thought too. I will not chase the irresponsible buddy.
It's for this exact reason I carry a 6 CU spare air bottle. People laugh at them but I could've ascended to 15ft, and had a solid 3 min safety stop no problem. at 200psi, there's no way I would've dove down deeper... that's crazy
Lesson learned: Don't dive with Keith ever again.
He actually is a good dude, and I have dove with him since. However I always have my permanent buddy with me (wife) after this happened. That day I tagged along with the group and had no "planned" buddy, and that was also a bad idea on my end.
@@TheFloridaDiver I never dive with my wife as we don't get along under the water and ignore each other.
@@graememckay9972 hahaha, I know the feeling!! I could always hear her yelling at me underwater, good thing I didn't know what she was saying.
Thats true
The lesson should have been don't dive with "the florida diver". He didn't monitor his air, gave the ok signal multiple times when he wasn't actually ok, and almost killed himself.
This was a good honest video. Appreciate the content and God bless on future dives
Thanks Maurice! I hope i never have to make another out of air video.. One time is enough! Lol.
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I am a Divemaster and I can certainly point out that the others AND especially your buddy (or the lack of) are as much to blame as yourself. In a LOW air situation you NEVER go deeper (unless inside an overhead exit isn’t available).
It was indeed a cluster****! I'm kind of glad I had this lesson, because I have since become more self reliant. And I couldn't agree more with your comment! Cheers
More videos like this needed to show the dangers of not being decisive when things look like they might not be as OK as you think... Great video, glad ur alive to dive again 🙏🏻
Trust yourself nobody else.
Don't be a follower.
When it's your time to go up, it's your decision to go up.
I agree 100%
love the honesty! this is a great lesson to all current and future divers. we all make mistakes but learning from those mistakes is what makes us better and safer divers. glad you made it out safe and were able to put ego aside to help out others! awesome vid bro. safe diving!
Thank you for sharing this.... this is so scary but so enlightening for a new driver to understand....confidence is dangerous and no one is a burden when diving....I will never forget this
I’m sure you know but your experience shows it needs to be reminded to all.....
IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR ON A DIVE THAT CANNOT BE FIXED EASILY...
END THE DIVE AND HEAD TO THE SURFACE NOW!!!!!!!!
Glad you lived to share your experience!
This is 1,000 times better than the other accident vids I see. Took accountability and learned. Good insights for beginners and humble commentary as well
Thank you for this educational video, I enjoyed your review of what went wrong and how it could've been better managed. I am a new diver and shared experiences like these are great for my own learning. Cheers!
Wow… you are awesome for sharing this. So many lessons to learn, but thank you for sharing. You made mistakes, but so did “Keith”. Aside from some time to revisit diving safety, I’d sign up for a rescue diver course and never let embarrassment get in the way of safety. Can’t thank you enough for your humility in sharing this… everyone makes mistakes, but only a few are big enough to help others learn from them!!!
Thank you for the kind words!
@@TheFloridaDiver totally mean it… I guarantee you will have prevented serious injury and maybe save a life by sharing this!
Very useful debrief. Hard to post mistakes, but invaluable for all of us. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words David! It took a couple of days to decide to post, but if it can help save another diver, it's well worth it.
I’d do the same but they haven’t made a camera yet which could capture all of them !
Dont be afraid to give that out of gas sign if you know you're dangerously close to empty and you still dont know when the dive is about to end. News flash. If im in reserve pressure, The dive is over. we're making our ascent. (safely of course)
I completely agree! Ever since this incident, i became much more conscious about safety, and planning dives with contingencies. I appreciate the feedback Kyle, thanks for watching!
Yeah that is something that confused me. Why did keith bother leading him to the anker line. Just ascend!?
Thank you for bringing this incident to the public…..you may a saved a life
I brought another diver up from 140fsw once he was out of air. When we got back to the dock and unloaded our gear . As I'm pulling out of the parking lot ,he runs up to tell me thanks ,he said he wouldn't have made it with out my help .
Yeah at the point you give a low on air signal and your buddy is swimming fast against the current away from you. That's the point I would really consider doing a controlled ascent on my own. Hope you had a talk about this.
Wow bro! Glad you’re okay! You took a HUGE Chance deciding to continue descending and chasing after Keith for air but also pretty brave for giving him the okay when you were ways away from okay.
Thanks for sharing your near death experience. This is an educational video now. Glad you’re still with us
You are not alone when it comes to feeling shame for thumbing a dive, feeling like you're letting the rest of the team down and even posting this video. However, it's important to always remember that anyone can thumb a dive at any time for any reason. Sometimes it's an annoying convenience which hurts pride at the moment, but pride isn't worth your or someone else's life.
Thanks for posting this video; it's good for others to learn. I also watched some of your other video's and you do a really good job in your editing. Wish you didn't stop... :)
Thanks for the kind words! I still have my gear, but with a 3 year old son, time is hard to come by.. lol. Happy diving!
@@TheFloridaDiver don't worry, we've all been there. Kids get older and before you know it he'll be diving with you. See you out there soon! :)
The best skill anyone can have is being able to say I fucked up
At the end of the video his mouth piece is just floating, if it wasn't for his instructor it would've been his body that would be floating. He ran into a very dangerous situation, good thing he kept calm and realized that he is in trouble and alerted the instructor. No need to be embarrassed, you are safe and so is everyone else. Fuck EGO. Glad you are okay. Many lessons to learn from this for people diving.
Great honest video! I hope other divers watch and learn from this. I also hope it does not keep you from diving again. Take the lesson to heart and become a better diver for it.
We are back at it! Will be posting our latest cavern dive in about an hour. Thank you for the kind words!
Thank you for sharing your story. This is an amazing teaching moment. Thank God you are ok.
I know this is a very old video but i will never understand this mentality of not sharing air if one diver is low. When i started diving i was a air hog and to not cut the dive short my diveguide would check up on me mid dive and ask for my air. If i was getting to around 100(+-1500PSI) bars while the rest was at 130(1800)-150(2100) he would hand me his secondary and instruct me to hold his manifold and hover above him while i continued the dive. When we ascended to around 10 meters i would go back on my own air and finish the dive. No drama no dives cut short and everybody happy. And if u ever find yourself in this situation, just shallow up and enjoy the view from above if visibility permits it(signal this to your buddy btw).
This is great advice, shallowing up is how I started before gaining more experience, it keeps everything manageable! I always followed the group from above, never to far though. It really helped me a lot. beginners feel they have to be in the group at all times, that’s not the case, as long as group is visible, you can swim above group and see the same things on 50-60 foot dives.
Thank you for sharing this. Theres a good chance that you saved many lives with this video.👍
Thanks for sharing this video, I have been there ONCE, exact same attitude and feelings, I assumed I was following my buddy to the ascend line around a wreck at 75 feet and he was actually NOT GOING THERE. I became out of air at around 110 PSI in my computer, even though my gauge showed just below 100 PSI and could no longer breath, I was able to maintain very calm, and reach out to my buddy and signaled NO AIR and there his octopus was. Lessons learned, great video, great story, really appreciated it.
Wow, that's extremely similar! I hope your still diving, cheers Luiz
Thanks for sharing this. Very valuable and I bet you have saved many an incident if not lives!
Looks like your buddy was just trying to kill you.
On your air meter you will see numbers indicating the amount of air in your tank. You will also notice a red color when the needle reaches 500lbs. That means you end the dive and do a controlled ascend to the surface. When I get to the 20’ mark I’ll hold there and undo my marker buoy to send it to the surface. To see the needle in the red and dive deeper is a risk.
Appreciate you being honest about your mistakes. Glad you're still here to acknowledge it publicly.
You and Keith both failed here. Regular buddy or not, you both should know the "rules" of diving.
Your first priority is your own life, your second is your buddies. When you're at 1000psi, yours, and everyone else's dive, is over.
I'm probably anal but...
You need to be on the boat with minimum 500lbs. That remaining air wasn't for you, that air was for your buddy if he had had an emergency.
Hope everyone watching learned from this.
A-hole buddy, and you're not at the ascent point, deploy your smb, and start your safe ascent. And wait for the boat to pick you up.
I still don’t get why Keith didn’t give him emergency ox in first place
Well he signaled low on air. Could've meant 70 bar, 50 bar, 30 bar depending on personal interpretation. There's usually no clear threshold for that signal and of course the urgency depends on the dive profile. But definitely time to ask how much air, then call the dive and ascend! Swimming away back to the anchor line was a bad idea, even worse at such a distance from his buddy. They should've gotten close and made a safe ascent right there, potentially skipping the safety stop.
Wow that Keith is a complete tool. I hope I never get to dive with someone like that. I know you made some mistakes but when you signalled low air and he just started swimming down quickly I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing. And then you catch him, tug his fin and let him know you are in trouble and he just swims away again. Unbelievable! What sort of 'buddy' is that.
100% completely ignores any sort of proper dive protocol. swimming fast, burning more air, ignoring signals, not staying close, not providing air... literally wtf.
In Keith's defense, this diver told him he was low on air when it was already becoming critical. Keith may not know how low and Keith rushed to bring the diver to the anchor line. When Keith stopped mid-way to check on his buddy, he received an "ok" You don't do that if you're not ok. The swim they did was short distance and a couple of minutes, in a typical scenario that's not a lot of time to suck down as much gas as the OP did.
This is a perfect example of poor communication and planning. I don't blame Keith here at all, the OP needed to signal and let the team know much earlier. It's also NOT ok to give the ok sign if everything isn't ok. That's not on Keith, it's on the OP and he properly took credit for that mistake in the video.
The good news is everyone else gets to learn this in the comfort of their own home.
Thanks for sharing.. I had a similar incident diving in an unfamiliar location.. it is a horrible feeling and you sure handed it better than I did
Thank you very much! It definitely was a nightmare, and I'm glad both of us are here to talk about it.
That's one buddy I'd never dive with again
one thing I would never take lightly underwater is air...I'd never go too low, I'd be too busy constantly checking it.
I’d avoid Keith at all costs. Sure you didn’t make good decisions but…. I’m horrified by Keith’s lack of awareness.
Good you trusted your friend.
If you were confused you would probably not follow him.
God bro, I've watched 100s of Scuba Videos (never done so - I don't have the testicular fortitude) - the BEST decision made was continually following his friend (even if blindly at times it seems) because had he actually became "over confident" he could have panicked but didn't... Kudos
This was infuriating to watch, as soon as your buddy saw you were low on air he should have first offered his octopus to you. Watching you try to chase him down had me pulling out my hair lol.
Thanks for the video and commentary, I’m just about to finish my Open Water Cert so I will take this lesson to heart.
Thanks for sharing. Lots of good lessons here.
I was almost in a similar situation, but there was enough air for a security stop. I also fell behind the guide (aka the body) since I have a cramp in my leg))) Then I still found communication with him and he escorted me to the yacht for a safety stop and waited with me for all 3 minutes. And I left the water at 20 bars. After this event, I bought myself an underwater bell))))
A good video to watch and learn. thanks!
stryxrn I appreciate your kind words! Thanks for watching.
You live and you learn bro
Great honest video!
Very useful!
Holy moly. I have a fear of heights( ig falling) and seeing this spooked me. I'm glad you are okay and hopefully we all learned something from this.
Thanks! It was definitely an unpleasant experience. For me, a fear of falling makes total sense and is clear cut, falling or not falling. The thing that got me, was not to recognize that i was falling.
This is why I always carry my pony bottle. I have a 19cf pony. I’ve tested it from 80 and 100 ft. At 80 ft I can come up normal and do safety stop. At 100ft I could come up normal but ran out of air on the safety stop. Had to switch back to main tank.
I dive in Jupiter and palm beach area in Florida, all drift dives and current rips at times. If you are in front of your buddy, you are not gonna make it to him. That’s why I carry a pony so I have a back up and am self reliant.
Get one, best investment you’ll ever make.
Death by embarrassment is just wrong. So like he says. No one is a burden in a life death situation. Raise your hand and ask for help.
Thank you for sharing that. It’s a good reminder that confidence can kill.
You’re awesome. Glad you are ok.
Thanks Dee! I learned a lot that day, and since then, am more conscious about diving safely. Now that we're talking about it, I would love to return to that location. I was able to enjoy it the first time, but only brief period.
Looks like you were also using your hands to swim quite a bit and this actually slows you down and causes you to exert more oxygen and breathe harder. Great way to take accountability and share with others the mistakes!
*always* check your buddy’s air regularly and ask him to check yours. If you’re low, they should be taking charge of the situation and making sure you both get to the surface as safely and as soon as possible. I really don’t understand why your buddy has made you swim back to the anchor line. You should be able to make a controlled ascent in open water with buoyancy control sufficient for your safety stop
I'm curious, how many logs has your buddy had? Your buddy needs to go to open water class again.
My dad and grandfather both dove into there 80’s. They started in the 50’s and new Jacque Cousteau. They also were sherif divers for many years doing recovery’s of body’s over 200 feet in the pungent sound. They both taught me buddy breathing kills! No your limitations. My dad had multiple 150 foot out of air accents when he was still using a single 72 with a j valve. He laughed you would occasionally forget to reset it when airing up. You would pull the valve lever and realize you didn’t have that 500 pounds you were expecting.
Those J valves, or as they call them now.. "junk" valves seemed like a real pain in the butt. I have heard many stories of people leaving their reserve open, and finding out they ran the tank dry. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
So many wrong things were done, this was a near miss. Never put your ego first, always be honest, your buddy or guide was very unprofessional.
Shit. Scary when you are almost out of air and do not know which way is up or down. You can decide up is down and vice versa, swimming away in panic dying.
Amateurs hold the anchor rhode going down and up. It can get tangled on you or equipment both ways. When it's time to surface, it's TIME TO SURFACE! If anyone is upset that you cut the dive "early" find another partner.
Thx for posting
If your DM saw your psi was already 900 and not told you to ascend, SHAME ON HIM. I'd also recommend getting a noisemaker (squawker that installs on your inflator hose). Thank god you survived to tell the tale ... remember to practice your smb skills too, that could save your life
When I’m the lowest common denominator in the group I make sure to keep my buddy and the guide or whoever’s leading fully appraised of my air situation
Where the fuvk are you going keith? My buddy is not in a good condition since she kept vomitting on boat but insisted she is going down.. it was a course for my A1 license and the instructor let her descend... i was overly cautious and always swam near her.. like literally grabbing her hand.. while we still green i have a decent buoyancy but she kept having trouble from time to time... i kept checking her psg and ask her if she was okay... near the end she told me she had problem and strated want to go up and we go up leaving the group behind
How is he talking underwater?
Keith. What are doing???! Are you trying to kill someone? Wow
So glad you’re ok
Subbed using this as an extra study guide for my rescue license. I’ve had a low air in a strong down current before, it’s a horrible feeling can’t imagine the out of air feeling lol
Moral of the story... don't dive with Keith!
It seems as if you and/or your buddy were not comfortable ascending while not on the anchor line? It looks like he was swimming fast trying to get you and him to the line, not realizing that you were so critically low on air. Why was there such desperation to get to the line?
Always take the safe way and end at 500 to 700 psi
Shoulda signaled low gas and buddy up and ascend..
Piss on that anchor line, you are in charge of yourself, and DO NOT NEED ANYONEs PERMISSION to ABORT a DIVE. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, DIVE WITH IN YOUR LIMITS, you CAN NEVER GO WRONG DIVING
THAT WAY.
I had the same thing happen to me in Bahamas June 2019. I kept floating up and separating from my group. The harder I tried swimming down, the faster I went up without checking my gauge. I didn’t know what was happening but had no energy when I reached the surface. The boat was still far and my team was still down there. I kinda panicked and blacked out when waves were hitting my face, leg cramping, swallowing water. 10 mins later I made it to the ladder. I threw up 3 times and just laid down without moving the whole time. I couldn’t even do the 2nd dive with them. It took me like an hour to be able to walk again.
Wow that experience sounds intense! It truly is exhausting to be in such a dangerous situation. If you were anything like me, my brain was working just as hard as my body. I was trying to think of all the possible outcomes and what I should do next. Unfortunately, my biggest problem was deciding not to surface sooner.
Glad your okay, and hope your still spending some time on the bottom! Cheers
The Florida Diver thank you. Actually, 5 months later was worse. I had a panic attack inside a cave. Like some final destination shit hehe. Video on my page. My last dive was in Brazil in January. It went well. My next dive is on Saturday in devil’s den. I’ve made enough mistakes not to repeat them. I’ll post the video when it’s done.
The Florida Diver I don’t think my brain was working at all. First mistake was diving while being sick and hungover the next day. When I was separating from my team, I didn’t want to embarrass myself so I kept trying to swim down for 5 minutes but kept going up instead. I was so confused what was happening. They didn’t teach me this in training that when the aluminum tank starts emptying, you will float up so when I reached the surface where I needed all my energy, It felt like I had run a marathon and that’s when it started getting scary. Yeah I don’t think I would know what to do in your situation underwater. Be careful down there
@@devilfish3034 oh dang! I love cavern diving, but don't think I could get into cave. There are so many factors that could turn the dive into a nightmare, and I just like to relax. I have thought about tech diving, for depth and bottom time. But at the end of the day, I love the dives I currently do AOW and don't want to add more complicated plans in the mix.. not yet anyway.
@@TheFloridaDiver Take your time. I just became full cave diver, after several years of tech diving, something I'd never thought I'd do. Five years ago I wouldn't have been at the right mindset and ability level for this, but several tech courses and lots of experience finally made me feel I was ready. It's been an awesome experience. But yeah, cave diving is the black belt. No need to rush. And tech training from top instructors is so worth it.
good thing you didnt try to surface by urself that wouldve been a death sentence. i had a similar experience ran out at 100 feet and had to use my buddy's air... i was bugging out on the decon stops you keep thinking if you ran out of air your buddy must be pretty low too.
I always thought "if something goes wrong, i can handle the stress no problem". But on this particular dive, with no buddy system, things just kept getting worse and worse. The internal battle in my head was intense! I couldn't decide what the best option was, meanwhile watching my air drop to nothing. The biggest problem was knowing our dive boat had the anchor set by another diver. If i had gone for the surface, they wouldn't have been able to pull anchor and come get me. I decided against surfacing alone, which i agree with you, it wouldn't have been a good idea. So i tried as hard as i could to keep up with the divemaster / guide. But i was so winded, and couldn't catch my breath.. I didn't think i was going to make it. There were multiple times i just stopped swimming and thought about going for the surface, regardless of the outcome. But when i finally saw the anchor line, i was the happiest man alive! It was a huge scare, and since has made me a much safer diver. I'm glad it happened, but wouldn't want to go through that ever again! Appreciate you watching and leaving feedback. Have a good day!
Surfacing alone when your personal situation turns bad isn’t a bad thing, I’d sooner die of dcs at the surface than drown
Mark Northern no dude thats what a buddy with the octopus is for lol. dont panic and surface by yourself youll regret it
Sphenix there isn’t a buddy with an octo, he swam deeper, he’s a dick
@@oioionionone It was definitely a hard choice. My "buddy" got pretty far away, and i was begging my regulator to keep giving me another breath so i could chase after him. But if i could go back, i think i would have began my accent no later than 600psi in the tank. No matter what, i can complete my safety stop, and surface normally without worry. And then i would pop the SMB and hope the boat can see me. It was just a weird situation, knowing that the boat was physically tied to the wreck, and the fear of not surfacing by the boat really stressed me. Luckily i get to dive the same site this month, with the same crew, but my permanent buddy (wife) will be there too. Unless this storm turns north, then i will continue waiting. A redemption dive.. If you will.
Thanks for sharing.. this vid help me to be alert all d time, and be safe, and get help when required.. i will keep this as my reminder.. thx again
Thank God your okay 😅
thanks for being honest. i do the same i get to video all our groups dives & im all over the place to try to get video. i have switched to lp95s and at least a 30cf bailout. for my safety and the others as i dive with divers being trained or just trained. i have been on several dives where i have handed off my pony or had to hand off my air toward the end of a dive. 1 rule we let them know if they take the pony they pay for the fill it kind of helps them keep a eye on their air.
Good idea to bring one. I've switched to sidemount because of back problems and can't tell you how nice it feels to have two tanks and two separate regs. Recently had an o-ring burst at depth. No big deal. Just close that tank and end the dive with the other one.
terrible buddy you got there
That dude was trying to kill you, what was that. I’m sorry you had that happen. Ok spoke to soon, but still I don’t know.hmmm 😂
Happened to my buddy diving on a wreck in South Australia. Faulty equipment caused his air to go in no time but i saw it escaping and actually was the one to tell him hes gonna be out . Was no stress we shared a reg the way back and up. I only had 1 reg working for some reason i cant remember now as it was about 31 years ago now . Sound along time ago but when your getting old it feels like a year ago.
The USS Mindanao is at 85 feet so i assume youre around 70-80ft in most of this video. At 200psi when he takes off I'd be making a free ascent and getting ready to CESA if OOA. If that anchor line was farther off you were gonna be doing a CESA from 70'...
As a diver I think its good that you upload this Video, admitting some of the mistakes you made. My first dive-teacher hammered this lesson into me: be humble - stay safe. The more experience you get - the more you will focus on safety.
As you said - you gave some "ok"-signs already in a "not ok" mood (which in my opinion led the dive master to the idea, that this few meters more to go are ok).
From my perspective, im often the one with the most air left - but even when other diver canceled the dive because of any reason(they were freezing, had ANY problem) - no one ever, me included, made any reproach.
I think the diver community is in most cases a real great one - buddies-types (despite "fuck up buddy- there is a turtle and my instagram is low on content"-people xD)
wow!
How deep were you?
80-90ft
im out of air but ill follow u down to the bottom again hahaha wtf
Great common sense youre running out of air and u follow this guy even deeper???
LOUSY comm.
EDIT: And his speaker just cuts out. LOL.
Yep, I will just pretend because I ran out of air and couldn't speak anymore 🤣
Oh well, equipment changes over time, but now I am too busy to make any videos. Cheers
I did realize one time on a shark dive our times was about to finish but it wasn’t. Luckily for me I just surface at 400psi but that was the first time I feel I was about to run out of air becase of that and because with sharks you don’t want to be at the surface waiting for the boat to pick you.
Isn't it a crazy feeling when running low? When you feel your high pressure hose begin to bend easily, that's when my anxiety really hit me. I started to wonder how accurate my pressure guage was, and if it had less than it was reading.
Thanks for sharing your story, I can't wait to see some more sharks! Cheers
The Florida Diver yeah is awful experience to go through. We should meet up one day and dive together. I’m currently using underwater a Nikon Z6 setup for stills and a Sony for video. I’m in Port Saint Lucie FL I mostly dive in west palm beach and jupiter but I’m down to travel as well.
You and your friend should take diving training.
Complacency kills
You made some major mistakes and so did Kieth
Rule of 1/3 will not ever be violated.
bad leadership
Scuba diving with spearguns makes you a killer, not a diver. Hope you learned something about death and life from this lesson.
Well, i have never used a speargun in my life (however, it is legal in florida with scuba). They spear a few fish and eat them, so no, my lesson was not about spearfishing whatsoever.
@@TheFloridaDiver I saw them in the video. I know it’s legal (in Europe it’s not), even homicide it’s legal during wars… it means nothing you know
Try ascending next time. I know, you wonder why you didn't think of that yourself.
That was a comedy of errors. When you had 900 lbs a slow ascent would have been easy. Better to be on the surface and breathing than out of air on the bottom. At 400 lbs instead of going up, you swim hard going down burning even more air and making your valve and reg work harder to deliver air. Apparently your dive leader needs to learn to take your signals a little more seriously and actually look at your gauge and stay with you instead of swimming away. Wow! Glad you made it.
Would you not get bends coming up that fast?
We surfaced at a normal rate. Even the safety stop could have been disregarded if needed, as long as you accend slowly and stay within you NDL.
@@TheFloridaDiver your crazy chilled throughout. This video has actually put me off the thought of diving.
@@andys2856 don't let one mistake stop your curiosity of diving. It's generally very safe, and out of a couple hundred dives, I have only put myself in this situation one time. It's a ton of fun and very relaxing to enjoy some silence underwater. I hope you go for it! I wish I would have started diving much sooner.
I would not dive with such body, who does not understand, that you out of air:)
But you also you are disaster. I had during my DM few students, who are OK, but uit of air. Thats why I always continue checking by myself :)
Good that you alive without injuries.
Please save some money and buy Suunto or anything with colour display and Wireless manometer SPG. After few dives you will understand how much it can save you from injuries : eardrum rupture descend and accend, air consumption meter, all RED screen alarms, digital fast compass navigation and more
Since the incident, i have become a much safer diver. I'm actually progressing to technical diving this year, after getting serious about dive planning and dive safety. I agree that i made plenty of mistakes on this dive, mainly by giving the ok signal while being on reserve air. There wasn't any computer that could have saved me, because i knew i was running out and didn't do anything about it.. Lol. Cheers!