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What if the USSR Never Existed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2024
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What if the Bolshevik Revolution failed and the Soviet Union Never existed?
This video is an alternate timeline where the Tsar continues to rule Russia instead of the USSR
Thanks to @Chiefofficerhenrywilde6556 for the idea
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Rare images of italian mapper not making a video about ww2:
Yeah there's a wW2
Ahh wild nature
Too soon
Bruh, he made 3/4 of the video about ww2 💀💀💀 he tricked us
He also not talking about cold war and modern world ☠️
6:03 unrealistic, Tsarist russia was industrialising faster than USSR. this is because the USSR killed and imprissoned Russia's most experianced and effective industrialists, and exiled foreign aide.
A Tsarist Russia would not only continue to rapidly expand their industry due to both their own internal industrialists and investment from the british, french and americans, like IRL. but it would be even higher than pre-ww1 levels as the Tsarists recignised during the first world war that their industry was not sufficient and one of their goals was to further increase their rate of industrialisation.
But ALSO a Tsarist russia in the timeline provided would have war reparations, almost certainly in the form of industrial investment, due to staying in the war and being on the winning side. AND it wouldn't have the damage to repair from civil war that the USSR had. furthermore, it has been calculated that the disarerous soviet policies like collectivisation pushed back their ecconomic development by atleast 24%.
even the most conservative estimates for the size of Tsarist industry in the 1940s is still slightly larger than the USSR in the OTL. and that's assuming a reduction of ecconomic development. a maintaining of Tsarist growth leads to about 33-50% more industry in 1940 than the USSR. and using extrapolations based off of similar ecconomies to the Tsarist russia that maintained a market ecconomy we see one potentially double the indsutrialisation of the USSR (depending on how far they go)
one of the reasons the germans were eager for war with russia in ww1 was because they wanted to beat them before they overtook the germans ecconomically and industrially.
(main source: Ricón, José Luis, “The Soviet Union: From farm to factory. Stalin's Industrial Revolution”, Nintil (2017-02-04))
the other major unrealistic elements:
1) the success of the germans against the ussr at the begining was largely a result of the USSR's forward deployment of their divisions allowing easy large encirclements at the start of the war and the dismanteling of the 'stalin line' as the ussr shifted to a more agressive stance to the germans. If the Tsarists are less industrial then there is noway they would do this shift, ie in your scenario they would still do better.
2) without loss of land to the soviets poland would not gain territory from germany. the allies gave german territory to poland after ww2 as compensation for land lost to the ussr. furthermore the western allies were against forced migration.
2.1) speaking of poland, if they were in a commonwealth treaty with Russia they would not have gotten the polish corridor or atleast Danzig would remain part of germany that was set up to give poland access to the sea via a friendly/free port. since Russia is the friendly port in this timeline that doesn't happen. there is also no way that poland gains eastern Galicia, as russia already annexed that during the war (proclaiming liberation of the Ruthenians of Galicia), there is no way a Russia on the side of the victorious powers would seceed that without a fight, speaking of...
2.2) there is no way the polish win against the russians so quickly or at all. historically the polsih BARELY defeated a soviet invasion. the russian army would be stronger, and the poles would have less time to prepare, and the russians wouldn't be invading but already deployed in their country. You also have the intervension of the league of nations who will be interested in actually keeping the peace since they are not overtly anti-russian (OTL they were anti-soviet)
3) Assuming Russia even breaks up into Ukraine/etc (already unlikely, those only broke away from ussr after the soviet coup in the 90s, they originally voted to stay united with Russia) Crimea would be part of Russia. it was only transfered to Ukraine by the USSR. no USSR means no Ukrainian Crimea. Without USSR it is either independant or part of russia.
4) Russia would have been brought back as a monarchy just like other occupied monarchies. if it changes to a republic later on thats another story.
5) the ww1 peacedeal is just in general unrealistic for a 1919 surrender. 1919 surrender means massive american involvement, meaning more american say in how the peacedeals go down. meaning the 14 points are actually followed. so no sudentenland in Czechsolovakia, Italy doesn't get all of South Tirol, only the italian population bit. no Carpatho Ruthenia in Slovakia (but part of russia), a less harsh treaty for hungary. no prevention of austria and germany uniting. this more conistant peace, and no ussr takes alot of wind out of nazi sails. its likely that germany becomes monarchist or austrio-fascist rather than nazis. they are also unlikely to start ww2 at all.
5.1) ww2 is much more likely to be the result of a french civil war being escalted by italy. the french almost had a civil war in the 1940s and only the threat of germany united them. without an agressive germany, the french fall into civil war, probably while the spainish one is still on going. and the italians intervene.
6) then there is the question of if the tsarist government can even survive staying in ww1.
Bro I agree with u 100% but no way anyone reading that
This might be THE Historian.
Man, if you really think that RE would industrialize faster, than USSR, I have very sad news. Up to the Bolsheviks, Russia was a backward agrarian country, since the tsars did not benefit from any industrialization. That is why the First World War was so devastatingly lost by the Russian side.but I completely agree with your statement that this video has flaws. The Russian Empire after the Second World War would not only have been unable to maintain power, it would have collapsed in a similar way to 1917. because there were no purges of the staff, which removed traitors and ineffective persons from their posts
Truth is it is likely Russian economic development would slow down
Woah!
Small Error: The Treaty of London which made Italy join the war was known only by Italy, Russia, France and the UK, with no Russian Revolution, the Treaty of London would have remained a secret and so, the USA would not have opposed the Italian claim to all of Dalmatia.
I’ll just have to assume February was cut out, given it was already the Russian Republic by the time of Lenins revolution
Iba a comentar eso
If anything the Russians would likely be stronger by the time WW2 came around than the Soviet Union was, especially given the show trial purges. This would've seen them likely do better against blitzkrieg, potentially stopping the German advance roughly aroudn about Minsk and along the river in Latvia, and stopping them at the Dnipro, also they'd do much better against Finland without the purges
Without the soviets, the Russians wouldn't have Industrialized Fast enough to stop the germans.
bro forgot about 30 million mobilized soldiers
Russian empire would mobilize even more given that many died in the civil war@@bwmasterr
Do you forget that stalin was solely responsible for the industrialization of russia? It most likely would have been worse off without socialism.
what about industrialization? stopping the German advance around minsk the latvia river and dnipro might require the russians to be industrialized enough
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Just so you know, the only reason the Soviets lost against Finland is beacuse Stalin purged his good generals, while the Tsar wouldn't do that. Just some food for thought...
Russia didn't industrilize with the monarchy so the army had a serious disadvantage, and the tsar would possibly get not as professional generals
@@Italian_MapperThe industry of the Russian Empire in the First World War
Despite the ordeals during the First World War, the industry of the Russian Empire continued to grow. Compared to 1913, industrial production grew by 21.5%. For example, in the same time period, industrial production in the UK decreased by 11%, and in Germany it decreased as much as 36%.[17]
At the same time, the volume of engineering production in Russia increased 4.76 times over these three years, metal processing 3.01 times, the chemical industry 2.52 times[18]
Also, in 1915-1917, a large-scale modernization of industry was carried out, and, unlike the pre-war period, most part of the equipment was produced by domestic enterprises.
On the eve of the revolution, the country's national income was 16.4 billion rubles (7.4% of the world total). According to this indicator, the Russian Empire ranked fourth after the United States, Germany and the British Empire.[20]
According to Orlov, Georgieva, Georgiev the development of industry reached the peak both in quantitative and in qualitative terms towards the end of the existence of the Russian Empire, on the eve of the February Revolution.[citation needed] Subsequent industrialization was carried out in the USSR in the late 1920s using administrative-command methods based on five-year plans under totalitarianism.[21]
By Wikipedia. If the RI survived,It would be far stronger than the soviet Union in 1939.
@@Italian_MapperThe February and October Revolutions in 1917 ignited hope in the Grand Duchy of Finland. After the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II on 2 March (15 March N.S.) 1917, the personal union between Russia and Finland lost its legal base - at least according to the view in Helsinki - as he was the Grand Duke of Finland. Negotiations began between the Russian Provisional Government and Finnish authorities. -wikipedia.
So yeah,there would not be an winter War on the First place without the abdication of Nich II.
@@Italian_Mapperwrong, Stalin purged even people like tukhachevsky (So skilled that he was known as the Red Napoleon),so even If the Tsar didnt have many skilled generals,It would be better to have them than to have people with no experience. Aside from the fact that there would be no winter War,ofc.
Edit: actually, the RI wouldnt have purged people like tukhachevsky,so yeah,still more powerful than the soviets.
@@Italian_MapperBtw Russia was industrializing under the monarchy with Tsar Nicholas II. Yes, the process would be slower, but it would be better in the long term as the Tsar wouldn't get rid of the kulaks like the Soviets did. Again, just some food for thought...
Damn, these videos are the best for my friends and i to watch! Keep making these videos mn ❤
The provisional government left the chat.
Yea and anti war revolts plus supply problems food shortages morale problems even before the soviets the army wasn't in fighting condition they were killing officers and deserting plus even tho nick was deposed in March this doesn't show that
3:34 this wouldn’t be a Italian Mapper vid without WW2
1:45 We shall never forget the dreadful asd event.
6:53 Волгоград при монархии назывался Царицын, а Санкт-Петербург с начала первой мировой Петроград так-как Санкт-Петербург звучал слишком по немецкий
The excuse of this being an alternate timeline could justify why they were named that way but you are right
@@Italian_Mapper мне кажется, что в подобных видео события до момента старта, видео должны идти так же, как и в реальности
Автор даже не старался. Просто сделал историю ПМВ и ВМВ, только зачеркнул СССР и написал Российскую империю.
А смысл? Мобилизовать треть населения может каждый, не только вождь народов божий сын Сталин. Так что РИ не как не отличится от СССР
@@user-bz5yg8tr1hникак не отличается, говоришь? Ну-ну, 95% всего что построено в снг, было построено большевиками, а не самодержавным царьком всея Руси.
Он ещё забыл Российскую Республику 💀💀💀
@@user-bz5yg8tr1hДа вы что?) Николай Второй, Во-первых, у власти уже не был к моменту революции, но допустим что это альтернатива, но вот если он подавил восстание то это не значит, что страна бы изменилась)) Не было бы ни индустриализации, ни строительства школ, ни бесплатной общедоступной медицины, да и образования. А армия вообще позор, первую мировую не отстояла, вторую подавно не отстояла бы. Сама же ВМВ вообще смех, якобы союзники победили бы Германию сами, когда СССР задержал на себе 80% армии и убил всю промышленность Германии. В общем и целом битву за Британию Германия выиграла бы и война союзниками была бы проиграна. Автор видео идиот, ни истории не знает, ни альтернативы нормальной сделать не сможет.
@@comrade1991-u8k Ладно бро, ты коммунист мы тебя поняли. перестань смотреть вестника бури
The history would be another if that had happened. Not only in Europe, but in the entire world.
6:03 "Russia is not fully industrialized because of the Monarchy, their army is wiped out"
I thought similar back at the botched winter war with Finland but if Russia was under-industrialized then how the did the reich manage to do as well as in reality without the secret military cooperation with the USSR?
This would happened if nicolas II actually learn how to control the country
Nicholas ruled a ruined empire that was not his fault
Also he had no idea how to run he was 18!
rare non ww2 scenario
Unrealistic af but still good
What's so Unrealistic About the scenario?
@@Hamstorianthe german defeats in ww2
@@HamstorianRussia's loss in the war with Poland and the Baltic States and in the winter war. If there had not been a civil war in Russia, then these countries would have had no chance of victory. And also, if the monarchy had been preserved, Russia would have received Constantinople and the lands of Germany and Austria-Hungary under the terms of the Versailles Peace. And the Allied victory over the Third Reich after the defeat of Russia was impossible
Also the fact he started in November yet nicholas is still emperor@@Hamstorian
7:31 RIP Nicolas II, cause of death were *killed by german soldier* 🫡
possible
Ohhhhh he died in 1917
@@Italian_Mapper It could me More Likely he Died of old Age in the city of Perm.
@@Hamstorian how old would he have been by the time of the 1940's because old age seems far more likely
@@under6075 Exactly.
I have a complaint
How in the world will allies win the war without russia i mean if russia collapsed at ww2 it means the world will collapse aswell
what if free territory won and russia fell into anarchy
how could the free territory win?
maype just suddenly uprising
"Germany speedruns the battle of france"
Technically, even if the Russian Empire had never turned communist, it would have suffered domestic violence and turmoil for years to come. Without the Five-Year Plans to industrialize their economy, Germany would have had a much easier time conquering Russia, assuming a similar path in an alternate history. However, the purges made by the Soviets in the real timeline wouldn't happen either in this scenario.
What if Italy didn't join Russia, France and Great Britain and stayed in the Central Powers
France allying with Germany makes no sense
they still lose italy is weak
how do you know @@Italian_Mapper
@@Italian_MapperI think this would help the Central Powers positionally, since Austria-Hungary wouldn't need to send thousands of soldiers to the Italian front, and could help more on the western front, adding 100k soldiers to a front changes a lot
Yes, probably France was not able to hold the line@@GuiM2
Sorry for my english
Video is cool but very unrealistic
Bolshevik revolution is impossible without February revolution, because their popularity began to grown only after mistakes of the provisional government.
If February revolution didn't happen, then Russian army discipline isn't falling. Russian Empire planned major offensive in 1917.
I think in that scenario, Great war would have ended in autumn 1917 - summer 1918.
Also polish and romanian
army couldnt resist russian army
Loser of World War II Russia is really fuuny, because Russian economy and army potential without Civil War is mooooore beter than Soviet
And another unrealistic part is independent Finland, since they were in a personal union with Russia.
Finally, Mapper Have a WW1 Video
Probably best timeline. No 30,000,000 dead at the hands of the communists. Great quality and work! Amazing!
And no cold war (I think) no Chechen war no catastrophic 1990s and no Ukrainian war no Korean war no communist china.Russia is probably more liberal no Stalin purge no deportation no holodomor
Do you realize that Hitler won the Second World War in this timeline, right?
@@spartacus936 and? They were never remotely bad as the communist genocidal regime. The Germans were liberators, and you are clearly not educated when you say that "Hitler" and not A nation won. When that happens I know you're brainwashed
@@user-ep5cd2hc9jLol, you said that the Germans were liberators, and I'm the brainwashed one? Sure bro, as you say I guess.
@@user-ep5cd2hc9j Germans wanted to genocide slavs and jews but soviets also accidentally genocided slavs and jews
That was pretty good 👍
So in other words, almost nothing changes
Where is kerensky 💀
Despite if the russian empire collapsed or not,poland always gets divided in 1939
İ have a interesting question can you explain what happen to western armenia aka eastern anatolia is turks managed conquer it or russia still kept territories after poland romania vs russia war
russia lost it
I think Russia being non-communist would probably influence all of europe. A lot of national socialist ideology in Germany was focused around The struggle against the slavic hordes and especially communism. A lot of the ideology came from White émigrés from the russian civil war, especially Baltic Germans, spreading their ideas of the communists. Now they wouldnt flee, since the communists didnt win. It would probably be a significant change. Since now Germany wouldnt have a politcaly polar oppoisite enemy (the USSR) its ideology would change. A lot of Hitler's cabinet, especially before coming to power, were monarchists and nationalists.
I don’t think that Vladimir Putin would be born in this reality.
No offense, but the Baltics would remain Russian and Poland is given semi-autonomy, Russia will gain Galicia from Austria-Hungary and incorporate it into the Semi-Autonomous Poland, and Germany loses all of East Prussia to Russia basically destroying any hopes of German revenge
Can you do a video: What if Austria-Hungary participated in WW2?
"wanna break from the ww2 videos?"
Get your Italian membership now!
Can you make about WW3 between Germany and puppets on europe and africa vs Japan and its allies (maybe Pacific Country) if Axis Won WW2?
Maybe
@@Italian_Mapper With two scenarios ?
You should expand this 👍
I want to watch this video already pls release it
Fun fact: in the time of World War I the Tsar Nicolas II promised Poland to be independent state if the war will end
Do a video of WW1:Red Flood (Every days)
Red Flood is too chaotic and i just quit making those scenarios 😿
Great video bro. Could you do a modern day scenario USA vs the world with US victory? I feel like that’d be fun to watch. Appreciate your work
Basically in this scenario, Carpia is independent, we have BIG BIG poland and prussia is srill there
February revolution: ...
L ending
Bro why 😿
Wehraboo
because its weird@@Italian_Mapper
And when Germany conquered all of the Caucasus and the land before the Volga river, Russia should really have surrended at this point. And we all should know Russia would have not been so strong as the UdSSR
@@skyguyxninja5650 ok then 🤓🤓🤓
Т.к это был уже не срветский союз , то он не мог так же колопсироваться , во 1 у россий федариции бы не было такой системы как республик , что государство состояло бы союз нескольких других , по этому белорусь и украина вообще не как не могли бы отсоедениться без вооруженного востания , что мало вероятно, тк тут бы не развивалась эдэнтичнойсть отдельных народов как в ссср , где напримую они назывались белорось и ураина. И так же причиной колапса экономики СССР был сильный военный бюджет , что при демократичной России было бы мало вероятно, т.к не было бы холодно войны и правешему верху это было сложне.А тут даже холодной войны не может быть и речь , т.к России не контролирует даже близко таких теритой варшавского договора , что не говорить о поддержке режимов коммунистов по всему миру.Так же маловероятен был бы приход Путина и Ельцина к власти без колапса
not the German add that sponsors War Thunder Showing a Panzer 2A5 Main Battle Tank😭😭😭💀💀💀
Nice video! Can you make the pt3 of ww2 struggle on Europe? I've been waiting for months for the next pt.
Thanks but struggle of europe is not a series that i still persue since the idea became too chaotic and the views range isn't much high
What? How realistic they countered the revolution this easily? Just asking
Of course I read the name of the video, but... how?
Well I cam't say in details but as the Tsar its still in charge it means the february revolution didnt happen meaning that hw was able to satisfy the people allowing the mass to not rebel
@@Italian_Mapper well... this is plausible, so nice imagination ;)
I would feel that by 1940, Nicholas would be dead as he would be over 70 years old. Alexei would have taken his place by then as tsar
Why Finland didnt joined operation Barbarrosa as OTL if russian finnis war, more if Finland won ?
Can you do what if ww3 happend in the 60s showing Soviet victory and USA victory showing casualties an China getting involved
too much
Even if I still don,t like the wwii addiction even this is to much
@@Italian_Mapper come on bro you always doing ww2. Can you do something else
I dont think so moldova exist in this timeline they are would incorporate to romania
Good video!
Why did the tsar not change
7:21 asd?
How about cold war scenario?
Maybe
@@Italian_Mapper Man! do it! that be great!!
You have NO RIZZ, you pull ZERO maidens, your Jordan are FAKE, and the cool guy sticker isn't even that COOL.
(edit) Btw this is pure irony I do NOT watch skibidi toilet or something
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What💀
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I’m worried for the next generation
Пусть и так, за то будем жить нормально, без "величия"
So... just like real world then?
So, which country will be enemy’s usa in cold war
Maybe russia would still be hostile or some other organziation but hard to say
Мне кажется, у СССР и РИ свои особенности. СССР как будто лучше справлялся с крупными войнами, или с войнами с крупными державами: (Японская Империя. Третий Рейх. Италия. США в небольших анти-колониальных второстепенных войнах без посредственного участия) однако плохо воевал против Финляндии, и Афганистана. РИ как будто хорошо справлялась с покорением Средне Азиатских стран, подавлением восстаний в Варшавском Герцогстве
@Italian_Mapper Romania was promissed after ww1 bessarabia and Bukowina
not bessarabia only transylvania and bukovina
where did comrade Nicholas go after 1942?
deposed
Bro thinks that Russian Empire is the Soviet Union ☠️
a
What happen eastern anatolia is the russians gain six vilayet and what happen this territories after ww2 is the greater armenia established in modern day(in this scenario)
I have an interesting question:
How the hell did the allies manage to win in this scenario!?
If the Germans prevailed in the western front they could have wiped out the rest of the allies in Europe in just a few months! Or alternatively, The allies would have signed an armistice with the Germans after the defeat of Russia!
That part of the video will always be a mystery to me.
idk maybe i exagerated
Wow this is actually the stop of ww2 drug addiction great😊😊😊😊😊😊
(But everyone not knowing that this is a start of a new addiction)
Ah, yes Asd the best description...
ммм, речь Сталина на 6:33
У нас же нету тут СССР
Its cool
Where you did animation?
paint .net
What if the world was extremely based:
Here before the premire
румыния врядли бы напал на РИ
If tsar Nicholas ii was actually smart
*There is no russian empire after feb 1917 Revolution. Where is Russian Republic? :'D*
*if i started the video in february everyone would quit so have it that way*
The Russian Empire becomes the Russian Republic in 15 March 1917
Why is The Führer's Portrait blurred?
to avoid further complications with youtube policies
@@Italian_Mapper I wonder why youtube has these policies...
@@DavidHoaglandOfficial Because they are trying to censor and erase history, you know so that the little ones never know about this.
Remember history shall not be censored its a sign of direspect of the historical leaders
@Italian_Mapper, it's stupid by TH-cam to censor history. I get it if it's gory, but just a picture of a man being blurred is unnecessary, not like it's your fault, but it's TH-cam
Fps?
I dont think theyd still fight just bc theres no commuism doesn't mean theres no anti war sentiment
Plus you forgot that the russian general deposed nicholas in March seeing you started in November that's a big inaccuracy
Also the Russians don't suddenly stop having a supply food and army problem In general bc of no ussr there would be slight advances forcing a peace on Russia
Romania was not going to lose North Bucovina and Bessarabia if Russia constantly failed on a counter attack
I like how this video completely refuses to have any sense
“Germany is starting to lose steam everyone front” remove the freaking “is”
Да да,Россия выстояла на 2 фронта в первой мировой, но проиграла каким-то бомжам с палками под руководством Пилсудского.
So fun to watch
Thanks
Nice video
What if USA stayed neutral in ww1
why would they
@@Italian_Mapper why should communists be calm in your video?
@@yeegi123 the tsar doesnt make the mistakes they did irl and the civil population doesnt rebel in mass
Damn bro ur so good ❤
Thanks
Why is there two permire vids
yes
Inaccurate as hell
I don't like this, you basically just replaced the USSR with the Russian Empire and the only difference being you made their army a little weaker.
This is just ww2 axis victory with russia different name
can we see a alternate ending in this please the ending we have it's suck the video is super good man but ending suck and axis still lose ww2 and why didn't allied power just make peace with germany or something
@@Mapping_brasil6281 what ?
because the germans wouldn't stand a chance against combined allied bombardement and the hegemon that is the US industry
People will never accept and even if it, almost no one has the mind to imagine an Axis victory they are just too much brainwashed with Usa culture, Etc, Its something really basic even the French said its 100% impossible that Germany wins against them, then with Ussr and then even that they would not handle 2 fronts at once, Axis did won against France, Almost destroyed Ussr's armies in a few months and handled various fronts for at least half year or even more, so.. If you still ask why din't allies do peace beacuse people only likes allies to win and even if so they don't know what axis plans were at all
Hello, the beta version of the Toronto accord@@Mapping_brasil6281
Even in OTL (Original timeline) the allies will not make peace with Germany at any cause.
1 germany not can win russian empire
2 if germany win allies too not can win.
You do realize that Finland declared independence because the Tsar was no longer in charge, right? 💀 u just did the same events as ww2 except use the Russian Empire
Czechoslovakia 😔
What kind of heresy is this??
ok ending
Damnn thats one of the best timelines ever