Time Team S10-E11 Castle.Howard,.Yorks
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- Tony Robinson and the team are invited to dig up the lawns of one of Britain's grandest stately homes, Castle Howard in Yorkshire.
When the house was built, a medieval village was unceremoniously razed to the ground. Now the owners are keen to find out all they can about the village and its inhabitants.
Records are sparse and the search proves to be a challenge until the team make an astonishing discovery in a dusty basement.
Ironically Simon Howard was turfed out of Castle Howard by his older brother in 2016....a family tiff apparently. I used to work with the oldest brother Henry at nearby Whitwell Hall in the early 1980’s .A real eccentric ( disinherited after he sold off a few treasures) but nice enough fella he was basically broke when I knew him and reduced to doing odd jobs .The rest of the Howard family have a reputation locally for stinginess . Lady Howard commissioned a horse painting from me but then told me the price was a bit steep .....this coming from a family that once owned a Michaelangelo! .Henry died a few years back and Simon and ‘Lady Howard’ downsized to Welham Hall ... a slightly more modest stately pile.
I love updates like this. Thanks.
Thanks for the information:)
Howard family history carries on, and on...
How s that an example od irony exactly?
I lived next door to Henry in Welburn. He used to bring moth eaten clothes to my mum for her to repair. The crown and cushion has never been the same since he died.
Congratulations on the baby Corenza!
Can't say it enough. You are wonderful for posting these. Thank you
as long as your happy to participate in the theft of intellectual property and the disregard of copyright laws.
Vicarious pleasure is derived from imagining how nice it would be to own a palace like this. But my sense of ethics and morality is tested severely with the idea that anyone deserves to live in a palace, while others are homeless.
When i think of the headache from keeping up a palace, compared to living in the park, i know what im more capable of doing
@@chadsimmons6347 until winter hits...
I'd only use one room,if I'm that rich you entertain me I'll bring the party......
What an odd take. Do you also feel guilty when having a huge meal because somewhere in the world someone is starving? Especially if that meal is provided by your parents?
@@a.westenholz4032I couldn’t agree more. Charity begins at home.
Heck I was almost OK with "the man" when he agreed his ancestors were ruthless… But then he had to ruin it by adding "but look what they built in its place".
Linda Sue- I would agree. Yes his ancestors were ruthless and from this fellows myopic perspective, it's all for the best and 'status appropriat', as he is, in his mind, 'to the manor born', therefore entitled! It's called deliberate obtuseness and pomposity, nothing less. Your ancestors get rid of an entire village worth of history and the associated peoples heritage, so that you can have a 3 acre front lawn , topiary garden and strutting peacocks! Read DeVille Hall's comments here about the family, to get a clearer picture (i.e. confirmation) of the kind of folks you're dealing with!
I love this show. Thank you for posting these episodes.
Great ...thanks for posting these...I am catching up with all the missed episodes
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For those that struggle with English (or Australian), Mike is referring to the "Beeching Report" of 1963 where 2300+ stations and 5000 miles of track were reviewed for closure this revamping a rail system that was decimated by road freight transport. (I had to look it up and that Mike said, "...in the '60's... " & google for correcting "beaching!")
I know about Beeching thanks to the comedy series starring Sue Pollard, dear Dr. Beeching it was called, i believe
The thing that is most sad is that the residents of the village back than would have had absolutely no legal recourse. They had no way to be able to fight to keep their homes and this was common, more so in the Georgian era, than the Stuarts, but it still happened. Nobles were not even required to give any kind of warning, they could toss people out and demolish their homes and goods right in front of their eyes. Common people were treated very poorly with very few legal rights and even at this stage, hunting or gathering resourses for your survival on owed land even if you had been tossed out of your home would either get you hung or shot if you were caught.
Sounded like the biggest majority die of the plague and then the next guy that came to town tore down several building's, to build his house even before the aristocrat arrives. This size of house would have needed servants. I doubt that the village people moved very far away.
That s because the French did a revolution and cut more heads than the kingdom have nobles !
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Not much has changed; we have corporations treating us like peasants these days...
Also if you catch the last statement from the lord Howard (who got the boot by his own brother!)he quips about what his ancestors did rather than what they were doing to the people of the village
Just on this side of smug
"Probably, probably ... probably" -- typical Impatient Tony observation
I realize that Tony was just doing his job but archaeology can't be rushed and sometimes you don't know what you don't know until you uncover enough evidence to know what it is. I like Tony. I'm a fan but he was quite annoying here
There is an abandoned small village from the 1700s about 10 km from me here in Sweden. It has not been leveled, but all buildings have fallen, and I suspect well plundered. There not much to see, but it is interesting to visit in early spring before the year's weedy vegetation kicks in.
Thanks for the upload
Urban renewal, medieval style. Out with the villagers, in with the pretty people.
KYIRISH1 You hit the proverbial nail square on the head. In the states Urban Renewal really means, the wealthy have decided they want a neighborhood and only want "their kind" living near by...
+CompetitiveAudio Nothing changed really. :-(
AKA gentrification.
Thanks, RZ, for the upload!
Never seen Stewart so frustrated in all the TT episode than this one.
How many conversations like that did Mick and Tony have. The ones that wound Tony up so much. Mick was always telling him they'd possibly probably, definitely know more about a sight by the end of the dig. Most likely. But it probably wouldn't be what you'd expect. LOL
The locals should have turned up with pitchforks and torches and torn the castle down. Then just fill up the grounds with some really cheesy prefab split-levels and a McDonalds.
Fabulous series. So informative.
In this episode, you can see Mick and Tony reallly disapproved of what happened to the village.
Do not think I could get used to having my posh house called a "stately pile."
I couldn’t get past all the people made homeless by that stately pile of privilege and arrogance.
Brideshead!! You expect Anthony Andrews to come walking out with a teddy bear.
Omg ive been their last month and its amazing place x
your quite pretty
+Sam Johnstone thank u
"you' re" or "you are"
"there"
@@hannahclark1230 I wouldn't be so pleased if I were you; he makes quite a few vulgar comments about women.
BBC today has the hot dry weather as showing many sites the Time Team would loooove!
Not even needing geo-physic!
Not the *BBC, Channel4.*
4 is ITV, isn't it
My ancestors & relatives. Great video. My father has the bald head and long nose. My Howard history is so exciting to to look up. Famous people in our history books and the thrill to know that they are my cousins and many great grandparents. I wish I could visit my Howard History's Castle.
They sound like a bunch of pricks, you can have 'em.
South phoenix AZ = us citizen
"My Howard history" = bot sentence structure, or someone with narcissism. Normal people don't write like this
39:45 Tony says they have found the home of Ralph Kendall and his four bears. Most unusual to have 4 bears in a village house, don't you think?
Spelling!
barin or baern , a vernacular in Great Britain for children.
**forebears, or ancestors. 😅
Bairn is from the Gaelic (i think Scots or Irish) and it isn't "just vernacular". Neither is the Hiberno-English pronunciation of 3 as 'tree' bc they have no 'th' sound in Irish Gaelic.
This wasn't as bad as it first seems. Several other lords did the same thing, and they all moved the villagers to new locations. You have to remember these people were tenant farmers, they did not own the land they were living on. Bigger manors also required more labor, and more food so people at least had jobs.
It wasn't theirs because a bunch of invaders came in and took it by force.
Very true, but most of the people in England at that point were descended from the Saxons and Vikings/Normans who were invaders as well, The oriignal Britons had been forced in Wales by the Saxons after having to deal with over three hundred years of Roman Occupation and brutal attacks from the Picts in mordern day Scotland. in fact even Wales is a Saxon name derived from the word Welsh which means stranger or foreignor, a name the Saxons called the Britons to justify their false claim to the land, only later on the have the land they were able to hold onto taken from them by King Edward I.
@@flake452 such a nonsense take. Thats how every placr in the world has worked. You live on stolen land too. And thete is no where you could go on earth that wasnt at some point.
@@terdferguson1736 Yes the land was stolen from my ancestors. You are a cuck if you support the government stealing land and giving it to their mates.
1) Lots of lords threw peasants out into the streets, so it's fine.
2) There totally wasn't some systematized extreme inequality put into affect between haves and have nots in Britain 300 years ago to explain why the farmers didn't own the land nor had any legal recourse to take.
3) The first Howard shoved farmers out of their homes but at least he opened up low income and demeaning jobs.
See, this is how dumb and privileged you sound.
When Phil starts digging the dirt rains down for 3 days. HA HA HA
3:06. I thought he said something else at first. Lol. 🙈🙉🙊
i thought he said " this isnt any old shit" lol
At 8:30 - "what sort of person do you think he was?" A very self-centered one, to have had removed a whole village; his portrait seems apt for that opinion.
audio has become WAY out of sync
How can you hold a clam shell in your hand in broad daylight and call it an oyster shell?
I wondered the same thing!
If she gets that wrong, how good could she be with animal bones?
It's an oyster shell, that's why. They have very distinctive shapes, and, hate to say it, an oyster is a type of clam. All bivalves are "clams".
Thank you, Mick! The king, Henry VIII, whom Tony calls England's greatest king, was rotten through and through. A louse!
I know he is valued for the many things he did right but there is so much that is dismissed, or justified, just like we do our founding fathers. We glorify the things they did that we agree with and ignore the rest when not challenged.
The worst part is that often the historical figure's lives, views, accomplishments, are hijacked and twisted to fit a narrative we want to support. We have this weakness with our founding fathers and the Brits with their royals.
Thankfully these newer generations are bolder about calling this out and challenging the obeisance and fawning over people in power. Celebrity will always have its slavish followers but at least less and less people are being so snowed.
@@billie-jobenway8658 You always have thoughtful worthwhile comments. :o)
@@minimaker5600 Thanks. I try my best to only comment when I have something of value to say, never to troll or trash someone. The comment section can be a valuable place to exchange information and ideas and I try to keep it there. One thing I would add to my previous comment, though, would be that the Brits are better at calling propaganda propaganda than we are:)
The only thing he did wrong with the dissolution was to set up a slightly less harmful abrahamic hate cult in place of the one he kicked to the curb.
I gotta tell ya...sometimes the opulence of these English manor houses is disgusting..most of them got their money from slaving...
Every, literally every, culture going back to pre-history took, employed and sold slaves. What should be remembered is England was the first country that took global policies to eliminate it.
Why doesn't Time Team own a sod cutting machine like they used in a previous episode?
he clearly says in the beginning of the show that Howard didn't want them using it.
25:37 "trinch"... that's aussie for trench...
*Kiwi.*
Fix the Issue with the audio!!!! Very frustrating
Fie episode sound way behind vision!
Sorry, FIFEepisode
Ch4 and more 4 had sound and vision synced, as does Yesterday and, presumably Discovery. So why not TH-cam considering the following that Time Team has?
A trick to avoid copyright issues. It's free quit your bitchin.
@@scarletfluerr I really do wonder where that myth originated. There's no basis for it at all!
@ 3:10 does the guy say " this isn't any old shit" ? About the pottery!?
mandolingrass sherd
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I thought the same thing! I believe he says, sherd.
In American English, a shard.
The voice sink is way off.
It is in all of them, and there's always some dickhead who has to point it out. Did it ever occur to you it's a way to avoid copyright issues?
@46:09 look at the vest Simon Howard is wearing... did someone dump a pot of tea over him?
brown shading looks like a stain.
Correct syncing on this video
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The .01%. Face palm.
If someone today tried to tell me they are royalty, or nobility, I'd give them a nice pat on the head and recommend a good therapist. And if they insisted on taking it seriously, I'd chop off their head; the proper remedy for such foolishness. The Honorable Simon Snoot, with his very important lawn, sounds little better than the fellow who threw out an entire village so he could have a better view of a lake.
pls expedite funds for legal and living $50,000
Not enough 😊
start digging in the USA still goes on, eminent domain of private land for private big company use.
I think anyone who "pretends" to be an impatient grouch is indistinguishable from someone who is.
Oh come on give a natural grouch their due!!!!😊
They got rid of the church and, lo, what do we find instead: a pyramid, an obelisk and the calls of peacocks. For those, who understand...nuff said.
that you're fascist? yeah, kinda.
The sound track is so far out of sync that Tony might as well be talking Sanskrit.
It helps to be doing something else while using this as your soundtrack. I crochet and only glance up to look at the maps or what they have dug up. If I watched the whole thing closely, it drives me crazy with the sound so out of sinc.
Does John Gator have a daughter called Alexandria?
What? Ally? Yeah, took her out for a bite a while ago.
howard still the family.............still time to tar and feather a howard,
Carenza was correct Chris. It was so that THE Essentially Divine Service also known as The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass that "Divine" is Referred to for it is indeed Divine since Almighty God Himself in the Person of Jesus Christ become present BODY, BLOOD, SOUL AND DIVINITY. It is not the other way around. The other services are not Divine IN SE, but the Mass IS, as Carenza pointed out.
The arrogance and selfishness of the rich and powerful destroyed this and many other villages, casting inhabitants out onto the road to wander or die. Nobody cared. Has anything actually changed? Ask the six million British people now officially living in poverty. Ask many more living hand-to-mouth in the insecure gig economy. Ask the elderly, taxed to the hilt and then forced to sell their homes in order to pay for care in their final years, thus depriving their children of an inheritance.
Same thing happening here in the states. Purely disgusting.
Did Tony say oi vey. The Yiddish Jewish term for Oh God? Next he'll be saying shmatta and tuchis
Not sure how digging in the ground will tell you where the village inhabitants went.
But again, someone spent great time and money in the past to create maps that represent nothing.
Elevated status by accident of birth 🙄
Audio sync is horrible here..cant watch past ten mins
Audio is completely out of sync with the video. I thought it might be something wrong with either my connection or computer. Glad to see comments to this effect. My wife and I have been watching Time Team videos starting with Season 1 Episode 1 and right through to this one. I noticed sync issues begin to pop up in Season 9. However, Season 10 seems to all be out of sync. I hope this gets fixed because it's difficult to fully enjoy these videos like this. Hope this helps.
Does geophys ever not complain an make excuses. Geesh. I guess 20% of the time geophys reads it right. Not great track record. Sorry just get tired of john explaining geophys problems.
Mick🌈sweater ✔️
Eat the rich.
No thanks, they are too rotten.
owener of the castle with his trophy wife: throat cancer....i rest my case.
Simon was a bit self righteous, the new guy there is like a 60s BoHO. He's cool. Castle Howard is the ugliest house in Yorkshire. I'm just happy half of it is derelict inside. The fire is the 40s wasn't severe enough.
Thanks for posting. I've watched most of Time Team, some twice. While the program is entertaining, the large majority of the episodes are a huge disappointment. They go like this: we're looking for xyz... dig a trench, maybe nothing or something but not what we thought, repeat with each trench, epilogue is we didn't find or only found part of xyz... here's some pottery and some tiny artifacts, here's some nice drawings (based grossly from imagination) of what we were looking for but never actually found, we entertained the land owner and locals, and we thank you the TV audience for watching us gab and stumble around for an hour.
An American analogy is like the time Geraldo Rivera opened a wall that might have (but never did) contain Al Capone's stash of loot. An extraordinary hours worth of fluffly filler that concludes with not much else.
Ringo J I too wish they did more than 3 days because it leaves me with so many questions & wanting more information on most episodes. 3 days is just enough to spark interest for me - feels unfinished. But I will say Geraldo Rivera is no American archaeologist. That was just a flop of a tv special. I recall an earlier episode of TT where they were in America and commented how the American archaeologist were slowing them down because they to sift every grain of sand where in England they don't do that.
@@robb2055 Keep in mind that for everyone on the show this was a second job. They couldn't, usually, justify spending more than three days away from those jobs. This is why if you look at the earlier series you may note that most of their digs were conducted over a weekend.
That's what archaeology is all about. It doesn't follow a script for your entertainment.
wat a rich person to own tht ...f him lol
veilum, calf skin. should have been lord and lady skin.
I wonder just how many children Carenza has. She appears pregnant in a LOT of these shows!
Well, she had breast cancer and underwent chemotherapy.....but, maybe you need to not worry so much about what Carenza looks like.
@@ngilman1 What are you babbling about? Breast cancer and chemotherapy do not make someone look pregnant. I don't care what she looks like. What would make you think that I did? I just wondered how many kids she had. Weird!
She has three children and she was misdiagnosed with breast cancer which she was told 3 years after a double mastectomy.
Umm .. well pregnancy does last a few months so I'm told. With 13 episodes of TT to tape each year this will record a lot of Carenzas' pregnancy. Perhaps you should check such things out with a woman with kids Larry just to make sure.
mick talked too much, did too little- actually never did anything but prancing about.
lmao
Phil Harding went out on a date with his sister that night. He was scared that his mother might find out he was cheating on her.
You are what, 12 years old?
Lets put you in a trench for three days and see if you can understand what you find.
@@ngilman1 Do you _really_ think he/she is that old?
You are almost as amusing as an abscessed tooth.
Binging on TT is such fun, and it's not fattening! (As long as you don't eat too many chocolate cookies!)
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I always point out Filask's input too. He has so many of the specials, lives, etc. that between the two of them they have it all. Their efforts have enhanced my life profoundly and I could not imagine not having these episodes. It just finally occurred to me last year to hit the like button on each episode to show my support. I was a little late to the party but I got there eventually, say after viewing every episode at least a dozen times.
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Tony seems to be getting burned-out in this episode (not that I am watching them in order.)
Oh my, I am pretty sure the snobby owner was pissed about what Time Team did to his lawn looking for the "lost village" and church. Everyone seems to be really confused about this site.
fk him
Yes, that snobby owner was charged with sexual offenses too.
When is Bridie going to come out being chased by lady Julia?
I will never get over the sound of peacocks--my grandparents had them. Wonderful guard dogs along with the goose they had that for the longest period of time never hatched gooslings but then the spring my parets git marries and the old one was slated to be served at lunch--a gaggle. Somehow that goose either sought out a male or for some reason a male decided to decend into my grandparents back garden! LOL.
Nothing like going over to your granparents house to see eggs in the nest. But despite my grandfather rasing calves to be butchered they never butchered the chickens. It was my other set of grandparents that took to butchering their chickens and ineviatebaly seeing that animal running around the inner courtyard headless. I am told that there is no way to avoid the reaction when butchered I giess unless you kosher kill them? LOL.
Love the Brideshead reference. I wondered if anyone else remembered the series. What a young Jeremy Irons!
@@891Henry Watched it over and over. And read the book several times. i stayed in the lovely (now closed) Easton Court Hotel in Dartmoor near Chagford, where Waugh wrote Bridehead Revisited & other novels. Patrick Leigh Fermor also stayed there to write. He wrote the terrific A Time of Gifts and Between the Woods and Water, about walking from the Hook of Holland to (or towards) Constantinople in the late 1930's.
I love the way they bicker because there is so much rapport. How Tony "complains" and pretends to criticize and Mick patiently explains how things are going and wht to be optimistic. The interpersonal chaffing of each other among intelligent people with a sense of humour is much of what makes this great, along with the fascinating subject material and genuine enthusiasm of all concerned. You don't get that just helicoptering in a pretty face.
I am guessing all the foundations were removed so the grass wouldn't show parch marks or have lumps and bumps.
Earl ? = Kisser of the royal bottom. HA HA HA.
Am I the only one who has noticed that the owner and employee were kind of plopping the finds in the hoof of that nice Time Team Jeep yet told Tony and Mick to be careful with the lawn when digging? 😂🤦
17 years ago, like yesterday
arrangements W/ YALE ?
Thanks
I really like sir Simons view. We have had these questions for ages let's do what we need to do to answer them. Bravo to him.
Probably...
First appearance of Brigid ?
no, she's been in one or two already
I always wondered; "Why only three days?" Is it for television timing or is it law that you can only dig for three days before you have to get expensive permits? A few shows have been more than three days but on those we see local magistrates workers coming by to see their dig.
I believe it started as a bet..."I bet I can find ... in here in three days" and it began the 3 days I can find .... for this show. I don't know which of these guys came up with it.
My guess has always been that they all have an ordinary monday-friday work, and doing it over the weekend suites them (and the helpers) much better,
They are essentially exploratory archaeologists, their finds are usually taken over with a more extensive excavation by a larger team afterwards :P
The three day limit was due to the need to keep costs manageable and because everyone had regular jobs.
Soundtrack is off. I refuse to watch it like that
Wah wah wah
8:30 basically he was the kind of person to erase a village to further his prestige lol.
The owner of the manor house gave employment to the villagers. Plus, he built them a church, and arranged for a priest to serve them.
I dunno how other folks find these videoes, but I've found that most of them have the sound well out of synch with the visuals..... *slightly* off-putting........
Just focus on your knitting while they talk.
Perhaps you'd enjoy it more if you paid to buy the box set that would be in perfect sync. It's free quit your bitchin.
It's really not true that most are out of sync. I've seen three or four and I've watched tens and tens of episodes over the last few weeks.
Better to have them out of sinc than not to be able to watch them at all. Y'all are too picky.