I would like to clarify something I mistakenly over explained when TEC had covered it: the defensive maneuvers were mentioned and similarly described in the way I saw it by him, I also misunderstood his wording on that originally therefore I went with the point of takeoff/landing bonuses. Sorry for that confusion, the section is still a good watch though :)
my only take from the video is I agree with most stuff, I just personally think you should use bombers and strike aircraft to bomb tanks as far as ground battles goes, leave fighting fighters to fighters and let interceptors be kind of a middle ground between a strike and fighter that or decrease the rewards you get for bombing tanks as fighters
Issue with cheaters is that Gaijin doesn't advertise how to report them. Reports from in-game are not taken into account. Those only work for chat related issues. To report cheater you have to go to the replay site and only those count
(groun only commentary) The only thing i flat out agree with is increased bonuses for taking hits, without it there isn't much use for a bunch of heavies that lack firepower and mobility. The drone scouting is a bit of a weird one since it could most likely be abused quite a bit, just sit in your spawn, fly to a bussy area and scout away without acually getting into the fight. But i do agree that SPH's need something substantial added to them so they can go up in br to somewhat more reasenable areas (time wise) while still beeing usable in a fun way. The biggest issue is what to give them, something to allouw indirect fire seems like the best choice but then you run the risk of it becoming something that feels very unfair on the receiving end.. the smoke stuff i don't see any real use for, i guess it could be interesting but i feel like smoking enemies could also be exploited by just lobbing large smokes to the enemy spawn at the start of the battle
Where exactly is the „abuse“ in gaining easy points? How are these players hurting you and me? Sounds like corporate gaslighting to me, gaijin feels „abused“ because they can’t trick players into buying premium with it
And exactly there is the problem. The "abuse" in gaining "easy points" is that often times you just ruin everybody elses fun while playing the game. I mostly see that while playing Air SB, once the events start, you see a shit ton of F-111 and F-4S/F-4 in general just spearing down onto enemy airfield spamming their rockets and demanding a "PVE-Lobby". Once you kill them once or twice, they just leave and the match ends after half an hour instead of 3 hours, so you need to find a new lobby. That is not how the game is intended to play and it ruins every honest players game experience
@@kutkuknightthe difference is, that, if you are spamming bombers, you will get shot down by a player and respawn. A zomber mostly doesn't respawn once you kill him in his "PVE only" Lobby. That effectively hinders you from grinding out your fighter while also draining the enemy teams tickets because they get shot down by airfield AA. Also, it is kind of a method of Botting, considering the fact that you take off, climb, dive, die, repeat. Players like this are the reason that the hardest gamemode in WarThunder Air-wise is becoming the least effective, looking at the score nerfs in late 2024.
@ thats a botting problem not an easy points problem, besides, a bot that doesnt respawn and do things isnt gonna get RP either so they would logically want to actually respawn and do monotonous things while you can intercept them. But thats all a moot point if you just detect the bot and ban the account, or balance it in a way that you do different tasks that cant be botted, the same way a captcha that just registers the way you move your mouse can avoid getting tricked by bots. You can easily come up with a way to incentivise actual player gameplay over bots if you arent gaijin and have this insane anti player mindset of god forbid people ARENT frustrated enough to be gaslit into buying premiums.
the cons of it outweighs it as war thunder itself would have to be a damn job just to get to higher tiers. people would just burn out by tier 3 and not even want to play which discourages casual players. their business model of incentivizing buying premium because of the pain of grinding so hard for a single tree is pretty shit
I would like to clarify something I mistakenly over explained when TEC had covered it: the defensive maneuvers were mentioned and similarly described in the way I saw it by him, I also misunderstood his wording on that originally therefore I went with the point of takeoff/landing bonuses.
Sorry for that confusion, the section is still a good watch though :)
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thanks for the shout out to the WTPU discord, you are always welcome
my only take from the video is I agree with most stuff, I just personally think you should use bombers and strike aircraft to bomb tanks as far as ground battles goes, leave fighting fighters to fighters and let interceptors be kind of a middle ground between a strike and fighter
that or decrease the rewards you get for bombing tanks as fighters
The anticheat issue the way i understood it was bad implementation and not easy anticheat being bad.
Issue with cheaters is that Gaijin doesn't advertise how to report them. Reports from in-game are not taken into account. Those only work for chat related issues. To report cheater you have to go to the replay site and only those count
@Bezem1944 well makes due to client desync is insanely bad often
(groun only commentary) The only thing i flat out agree with is increased bonuses for taking hits, without it there isn't much use for a bunch of heavies that lack firepower and mobility.
The drone scouting is a bit of a weird one since it could most likely be abused quite a bit, just sit in your spawn, fly to a bussy area and scout away without acually getting into the fight. But i do agree that SPH's need something substantial added to them so they can go up in br to somewhat more reasenable areas (time wise) while still beeing usable in a fun way. The biggest issue is what to give them, something to allouw indirect fire seems like the best choice but then you run the risk of it becoming something that feels very unfair on the receiving end..
the smoke stuff i don't see any real use for, i guess it could be interesting but i feel like smoking enemies could also be exploited by just lobbing large smokes to the enemy spawn at the start of the battle
good takes
Where exactly is the „abuse“ in gaining easy points? How are these players hurting you and me? Sounds like corporate gaslighting to me, gaijin feels „abused“ because they can’t trick players into buying premium with it
And exactly there is the problem. The "abuse" in gaining "easy points" is that often times you just ruin everybody elses fun while playing the game.
I mostly see that while playing Air SB, once the events start, you see a shit ton of F-111 and F-4S/F-4 in general just spearing down onto enemy airfield spamming their rockets and demanding a "PVE-Lobby". Once you kill them once or twice, they just leave and the match ends after half an hour instead of 3 hours, so you need to find a new lobby. That is not how the game is intended to play and it ruins every honest players game experience
@@jenslandsmann8995 how is this different from idiots already ground pounding in high alt fighters or spamming bombers though?
@@kutkuknightthe difference is, that, if you are spamming bombers, you will get shot down by a player and respawn. A zomber mostly doesn't respawn once you kill him in his "PVE only" Lobby. That effectively hinders you from grinding out your fighter while also draining the enemy teams tickets because they get shot down by airfield AA. Also, it is kind of a method of Botting, considering the fact that you take off, climb, dive, die, repeat. Players like this are the reason that the hardest gamemode in WarThunder Air-wise is becoming the least effective, looking at the score nerfs in late 2024.
@ thats a botting problem not an easy points problem, besides, a bot that doesnt respawn and do things isnt gonna get RP either so they would logically want to actually respawn and do monotonous things while you can intercept them.
But thats all a moot point if you just detect the bot and ban the account, or balance it in a way that you do different tasks that cant be botted, the same way a captcha that just registers the way you move your mouse can avoid getting tricked by bots.
You can easily come up with a way to incentivise actual player gameplay over bots if you arent gaijin and have this insane anti player mindset of god forbid people ARENT frustrated enough to be gaslit into buying premiums.
Face reveal? (Idk i'm still new)
I’ve shown my face before I just don’t do it often :)
@ELX987 yeah, me stupid
unfortunately the grind is a good way to educate people on how to play the game intelligently
Yes, but it shouldn’t be as bad as it currently is
the cons of it outweighs it as war thunder itself would have to be a damn job just to get to higher tiers. people would just burn out by tier 3 and not even want to play which discourages casual players. their business model of incentivizing buying premium because of the pain of grinding so hard for a single tree is pretty shit