A lot of people dislike Snake, but I personally love watching and fighting him, even if I’m not very good. There’s something so awesome seeing his melee attacks just eviscerate the opponent, or the Snake player being absolutely big-brained with their setups and execution. Makes me wish I was good with Snake haha
The problem is that snake doesn't need to play big brain if he doesn't want to. Want to get your opponent to chase you, grenade spam. Want to get your opponent off of you, grenade spam. Want to ledge trap, mortar spam. Want to edge guard nikita spam.
You should try maining him for a week. After maining sheik for 1 1/2 years, picked up Samus, Link and now Snake. He's really refining my b reversals and timing in neutral.
then you have degens like ltg spamming nades without even cooking them and mindlessly spamming mortars and rockets then crying when his opponent punishes for it
I agree with your points. But I mainly play him because he's a character from a military action series fighting against cartoon characters. It's really funny to see! Plus, I love the Metal Gear series, so seeing him in Smash is amazing to see.
This is why I initially played him (And absolutely sucked). I ended up being on swordies but that Military-esque appeal is what had me try him out the first time. Maybe I should give him another shot.
Snake was more surprising to me than Sonic was, even though Snake's history with Nintendo goes back further. The original Metal Gear was ported to the Famicom/NES after originally being on other Japanese computers. Funny thing, back in Brawl one of my nephew's favorite things was to play Snake, pick the red camo coloration, and pretend to be Dr. Eggman while fighting Sonic And it turns out in Japanese, the voice actor for Snake is the son of the voice actor for Eggman, with some dialog in Brawl making allusions to that with Snake having an instinctual aversion to Sonic before even meeting him LOL
Jeez, I would have guessed that his frame data was literally twice as slow as it is, for how hard it hits. Frame 3-6 for moves that do that much damage is a crime.
A bit off topic, but as someone who doesn't play smash, it's so fascinating that every community for their respective game has their own terminology and strategies. The terms are going to be completely different for a game like Destiny than a game like Minecraft. I just find that really cool; despite the fact that they are all video games, the communities around these games have managed to come up with strategies, tactics, terms and other stuff that only that specific community would know. Before I started watching his videos on smash, I had no idea just how complex this game could get.
Snake?! SNAKE! SNAAAKE!!! That was me when Snake was cut in smash 4 😿 I love how many franchises are in smash it's so beautiful to see them together! ❤
You should make a why no one plays banjo, he has insane combos and crazy techs but has to work significantly harder to get percent than pretty much any other character since raw side bs only work online and his attacks generally do nothing. His techs could push him upwards but they are super hard to pull off with the minigun breegull blaster being a near frame perfect tech if not frame perfect.
@@anthonygillette pretty sure most of it comes down to how much harder he has to work to get damage, his combos are more convoluted than pretty much any character and possibly harder than any other character to get full use from breegull blaster combos on top of some of his techs being frame perfect and his kill moves being very reactable with his side b pretty much always hitting shield in offline play. People play him online because wonderwing isn't really reactable with the like 12 frames of input lag. Also competitive players can easily mash out of his down throw. His aerials and tilts do criminally low damage, for example his up air only does 7.4 damage, his back air does 8%, his nair does 9.7%, etc... He does have some insane combo potential, but pulling it off in game vs training mode is a completely different story - realistically most of the damage banjo gets on enemies is from tacking small hits on and winning neutral with his neutral b and down b which are really good at walling off his opponents, but if you begin to compare him against top tiers it becomes really apparent why he's not very played - banjo has to win neutral trades like 7-8 times to put an opponent at kill percent, meanwhile characters like kazuya only need one. He does have a few strengths like a multitude of recovery mixups, invincible roll with a hitbox when rolling onto stage with a bomb in hand, insanely good projectiles, trapping opponents into getting hit by wonderwing, insane combo potential if unlocked and at if you play at a tas level he's probably the best character in the game because of the minigun tech making it so he has an infinite but that's incredibly impractical and nearly impossible. Banjos skill curve is insane, at a noob level hes strong because of wonder wing, but at a mid level he's definitely low middle tier, and possibly if his potential is completely unlocked at a high level he possibly could jump up a few tiers. Either way most people aren't down to practice and learn him because putting years of practice into banjo won't net as much results as sinking a year or two into a top tier. TL:DR: he has a hard time damaging opponents and some of his kill confirms are unreliable in a competitive scene. His frame data isn't too amazing and his hitboxes aren't really anything special. His saving grace is his amazing projectiles and wonderwing which likely are the main reason people don't consider him bottom tier. I'm sure the main reason he isn't popular competitively is because you have to work significantly harder for damage than most if not all characters which really means sinking more time into him would net less results than sinking time into higher tier characters.
I'm a snake main. One of my favorite things about it is watching my opponents, who may even have started the match with a clear advantage, clearly get worn down and sloppy But then they still may get the win because I derped out and C4'd myself loo
Snake and Diddy Kong were always the toughest fights for me. Snake especially can zone you like crazy, and make it back to stage unless you smack him into oblivion.
I think to put it simply he's a lot like Game n Watch or Steve where he has an unorthodox way of fighting so he's a matchup check, but what makes them so good is that evem once you learn the matchup your still fighting a strong character at the end of the day
A lot of people play snake because he’s kind of one of the most unique characters in the sense that a lot of his moves change his hurt boxes and very advantageous ways. The other huge reason is his really dominant neutral game. His grenade is powerful and extremely versatile. It’s also armed on frame one so it can be used to disrupt combos and force what would’ve been an easy kill for his opponent into an uncomfortable 50-50. The big reason he stands out as a controller is because he has the utility to be able to have the advantage in almost any situation. That combined with his insanely powerful melee attacks and easy to combo grabs make him extremely popular. that being said, his Speed, jump height, and speed in the air leave a lot to be desired so he is actually kind of balanced because you’re constantly having to work around your awful movement to be able to get the correct set up for situations.
There are like three characters who are why no one plays caliber (Banjo-Kazooie, Jigglypuff, Peach), why everyone plays caliber (Bowser, Palutena, Game & Watch), why no one-everyone plays (Lucina over Marth, Mario over Dr. Mario, etc.) and the problem with Min Min.
@@Dowonutz HUH? Edgeguarding from across the stage is fine? having the most non projectile range and that is completely intangible is fine? Having incredible boxing tools despite having said range is fine? Have an extremely fast reflector so that you can't get pressured by zoners is fine? Idk where you got the sentiment min min was ok, but please understand how wrong you are.
@@infernomaster1030 I think she's fine because she still has weaknesses and bad matchups, unlike someone like steve. She's honestly not that annoying and she's also not a common character to come accross. She's a strong character that has flaws and can be exploited, she's not op.
Actually you did forget something. HIS RPG YO!!! That forward smash is also worth mentioning. It’s an extremely powerful and large aoe move that can two frame kill most characters extremely early.
Brawl was flawed but probably the most influential in the series. Brawl is when smash bros as a celebration of gaming became a thing and that began with snake. Hoping for doomguy in smash 6 and maybe a moba charachter too. Its insane that first person shooters and mobas havent been represented yet outside mii suits.
"Thanks to his ability to throw tons of different projectiles and hazards at you, you're essentially fighting two characters at once - him and his bombs." This is a really apt analogy - and, in fact, why I consider puppet characters to be a subcategory of setplay characters (trappers). They actually share a really similar game plan and tools, with puppet characters just having all of the setplay tools centralized into a second character.
Love how these vids, and how detailed your overviews are. I also wanted to point out another really cool thing about grenades that I think we all understand, but isn't explicitly said much: Grenade adds a 4th layer to disadvantage when snake is in tumble. Ordinarily, in tumble, it's like RPS. Jump, air dodge, or attack. But Snake being able to grenade allows him to avoid needing to tech anytime he's in tumble. Practically, it just falls under the similar umbrella of needing to always be wary of Snake's grenades when juggling, but it's worth noting that if snake didn't want to, he never has to tech when in tumble.
Something not mentioned that I feel *really should be* That fucking back throw… I swear to god I cannot explain this well enough but the angle it bounces people off of the ground is *brutal* for comboing into kills
I always love snake and watching good snake players that outsmart the opponent. Or just seeing people go boom! I love fighting agiqnsed em too w my main. A battle of the trappers!! Also villager video when? Lol.
Kept you waiting, huh? To be serious though, in the next Smash game, if we even do get a completely new one and not a Mario Kart 8 style port, then I personally believe that they will try to keep as many characters as legally possible. I think that after the backlash against Smash 4 for cutting characters for no reason like Wolf in particular, that unless it is EXTREMELY legally difficult, they will keep the character, so this basically includes most of, if not, all first party characters as well as a at least a good amount of third parties like the ones from Sega, Capcom, and Bandai Namco. Hell, I mean with how we can now get more than one third party character per franchise, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting Tails and/or Eggman, Megaman X, Yu Narukami, Chun Li, etc. in the next game. I also believe that not only will they keep most, if not all echos, I think that they will actually add even more, because it is kind of an easy cop out way of adding fan favorite characters who would feel like clones otherwise.
I personally don't have high hopes that we're going to get a "the next one", at least not under Sakurai. Ultimate was already starting to strain under the massive size of it's roster, 82 fighters is almost four whole games worth of characters, unless they're going the lazy route and re-using old assets there's no way we're going to get another game with a roster that big. Pokemon is having the same problem right now with the national dex.
@@kevingriffith6011 Smash 6 will probably follow the Ultimate path, where we'll have all the characters with similar moveset and adding new ones, since they already did the hard work of bringing everyone back, now they can focus much more on the newcomers, so Smash 6 will most probably have much more newcomers than Ultimate, easily over 100 fighters.
@@Zenitsu-zq4pj See, here's the problem with that: You can't just drop the old models and animations into the new game. The fighters aren't "already done", they have to be re-built basically from the ground up for every single game: The only things they don't have to do is imagine a moveset for them. When a hypothetical Switch 2 comes out, would people really tolerate a game that looks like it came from the last generaton's hardware? Probably not, but that's what porting the old models would do.
@@kevingriffith6011 Yes, but they probably have tools and programs to automate and facilitate this process, otherwise they wouldn't be able to add all those newcomers + all the old characters from previous games in Ultimate in so little time. Of course it's not simple nor easy at all, but I'm sure they already have everything planned for the next Smash for the "Switch 2", including an estimated release date.
@@Zenitsu-zq4pj All I'm saying is that realistically if we're going to get more smash content it's probably going to be in a "Smash Ultimate, Complete edition" or something like that. Adding on to ultimate directly rather than making a new smash title. Making all of ultimate again from scratch is unrealistic. Smash ultimate got made unreasonably quickly by all reports (2 and a half years from conception, lightning speed for a project of such a scale and only possible thanks to backup from multiple major studios. Something I don't see happening again any time soon, especially considering the cost of such an endeavor)
Snake's Classic Mode {for the Challenges} was such a PAIN to do, but I got to 9.9. easily with him without losing a single life even if I've NEVER played with him before. I LOVE the Metal Gear Solid music in Ultimate, like Encounter, Yell 'Dead Cell' and Cavern among others, though, the first being THE BOSS where you fight her possessing Zero Suit Samus. The Boss was the first Legend Spirit I had obtained and I just fell in love with the SNAKE EATER remix! Also, my beloved Sephiroth amiibo easily destroyed a Snake Level 5 CPU during their fight at Bridge of Eldin's Omega Stage, by PERFECT SHIELDING against his explosives and letting him get hit by his own grenades and get a Star KO instead when Snake was on his last Stock. That was INSANE!
"M.Fucking STEVE *-Vine Boom-*" I wasen't ready for that. Yeah Snake is a powerhouse, I've got a kid at my locals that's 5 years younger than everyone else and last time he swooped he's a monster, but he also admits that Snake carries him a bit.
This is why I love Snake. Not sure if it’s because I’m a Snake main (and that the game doesn’t match you up against the same character often) but I don’t regularly see many people playing Snake. I play at around 10-13million gsp and I’ve seen about 4/5 other Snakes in the last 6 months. Keeping in mind the game has terrible algorithms for match ups I swear I fight the same group of people of similar GSP all the time.
you've done 32 of these and still havent reached zss. honestly i feel like shes the most compelling character in this context bc on paper shes broken, but in practice shes nearly the opposite. and at one point in ult it felt like everyone played her, like joker.
bo2 music? based Snake is sick. Love everything about his design. Although I will say, I'm surprised you didn't mention his down throw at all, the amount of fear that puts into people is very much note-worthy to say the least.
Is you reasoning on why everyone plays snake because people specifically know and choose snake for being a mu check and having fundies or people coincidentally playing snake for other reasons is a byproduct of snake being a mu check and having fundies? Because i think most people just play snake because hes cool or visually appealing or smth.
I thought his grenades have a uniquely smaller blast-radius for himself? Meaning, if both characters are exactly equal distance from the explosion, it can hit Snakes enemy but not him. Or was that something from Brawl/Sm4sh/some weird dream?
PLEASE DO WHY NO ONE PLAYS LINK! I love your videos and he is another trapper that has tons of potential but is not widely used like Snake/Rob/Pacman 😢
I would love to see that video too. If I had to guess, I'd say a lot of his best normals have brutally long end lag, making him committal and unsafe, while his best trapping abilities require lots of practice and big brain plays to pull off
@@davidlane1248 he is good but it is a case of why bother with Link when there are other easier options? I think he has a unique toolset that could be amazing in the right hands tho
Link has worse frame data and a worse disadvantage across the board compared to those three characters. Pac-Man, snake, and Rob have all have good close quarter combat options (as he discusses snakes in this video) where as link has none. All 3 of those characters have better recoveries then link as well, leaning into the better disadvantage. To sum it up link is a traditional zoner with traditional zoner weaknesses, whereas the three characters you named are zoners who don’t have those traditional zoner weaknesses.
@@RedBookBag420 totally! That is my theory as to why no one seems to play Link. There are some Link players getting results in regionals and online tournaments, but it is clear that we Link players are character loyalists.
Funny how this video popped up. I literally just picked up Snake a couple weeks ago, and plan on duo maining him with Sephiroth. Originally planned on solo maining Sephiroth, but realized that I stop focusing whenever I tried to solo main a character. I do better rotating between a couple characters as it prevents my brain treating the game like a chore. Came back from playing different fighting games got me into the mindset to reset my brain on how I view characters. Planned on having a character for each range, and different playstyles. Sephiroth was mid-range, and covered the swordie playstyles. (Sorry Ridley, Byleth, and many more. Forcing myself to stick to one swordlike character!) I'm still currently trying to figure out a close range fighter. One that won't die instantly (sorry Pichu, it was fun!). One that can force the opponents to do things (sorry old pal Meta Knight!). Fox, Sheik, Falcon, all solid picks but not super attached to those characters and view them as "the faces of competitive smash", so that's an emotional barrier I have to get over if I were to pick any of those 3. Inkling, Sonic, Yoshi are pretty likely due to gameplay and having some emotional attachment to them, but I have to play them more to find out if the negatives about them comes true, or if they are even a problem. However, considering about making exceptions for Lucario, Ryu, Kazuya, and Ridley (Ridley still has the most hours currently, and my emotions love to pick him the most frequently if I let my emotions pick a character). It's very hard to totally rule these out. I also haven't given Kirby a fair shot competitively. They all play in a weird way compared to other characters too. However, long range/projectile focused was much easier to figure out. Links will make me swap between them all the time, so I just can't allow myself to play one. Samus is meh, except charge shot, but at that point I'd rather play Lucario. Most other zoners I like at least a bit as a character (I mean, literally everyone is fun to play in the roster), and have above average fun gameplay since it's more than just pressing forward and attack, but nothing that stands out. Notable exception is Duck Hunt, because I don't care about that character in the slightest, but hot dang is that gameplay among the most fun. You're always throwing stuff out, and the can allows for so many fun situations. So process of elimination, I was very close to finding out my long range character. Rosalina & Luma was very tempting for a while, until I ran into Snake. Lumas die so easily, so for some players/matchups it's unlikely to ever get to use her unique mechanic at all. Snake however, gets to have separated from him all game. I play chess as my other competitive game, so hearing people say Snake is like "chess in smash" I thought it was overhyped, and then would be laughing too much at his explosions whenever I did play him. Though after really sitting down with him, it's hard to go back. There's always something to think about, and the focus on controlling multiple areas on the map, willingness to sacrifice to get a better position, and always thinking about what your opponent is doing (more so than a lot of other characters) made me really see the comparison. Now back in Brawl, I didn't like Snake because I assumed he was just yet another shallow gritty tough guy. Since then I realized that his games are more in-depth and cover some interesting subjects, but they also strike an amazing balance by being extremely goofy at the same time (still haven't played one yet though). This is shown really well in how he's presented in smash, gameplay is heavy on thinking, but those explosions are hilarious and silly. We'll see how long Snake lasts, but right now it's hard to see what could cause me to stop playing Snake. Especially since a lot of people used to come to me for matchup experience with Snake, even though at the time I did not practice him when Ultimate was new. Yet was kicking my competitive friend's butts with him. He's just one of those day 1 naturally good with characters just like Sephiroth was.
Off topic question but have you ever considered making a video on Fate Grand Order? Id personally love to hear your thoughts on each class, card type and so on
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Snake's kit being convoluted is just a reference to Kojima's cutscenes.
so true
My buddy plays Snake. I constantly tell him to stop littering grenades all over the stage to which he replies "THERE!" Then somehow I die...
A lot of people dislike Snake, but I personally love watching and fighting him, even if I’m not very good. There’s something so awesome seeing his melee attacks just eviscerate the opponent, or the Snake player being absolutely big-brained with their setups and execution.
Makes me wish I was good with Snake haha
Facts man that's why I main snake
The problem is that snake doesn't need to play big brain if he doesn't want to. Want to get your opponent to chase you, grenade spam. Want to get your opponent off of you, grenade spam. Want to ledge trap, mortar spam. Want to edge guard nikita spam.
Spams up smash while edge guarding
This is big brain time.
You should try maining him for a week. After maining sheik for 1 1/2 years, picked up Samus, Link and now Snake.
He's really refining my b reversals and timing in neutral.
then you have degens like ltg spamming nades without even cooking them and mindlessly spamming mortars and rockets then crying when his opponent punishes for it
I greatly missed him in 4. I hope he comes back in the next installment. Top 5 most fun to use.
I don't see how they can possibly top Ultimate.
6:56 "It does 20 percent"-MockRock
My thoughts exactly XD
I agree with your points. But I mainly play him because he's a character from a military action series fighting against cartoon characters. It's really funny to see! Plus, I love the Metal Gear series, so seeing him in Smash is amazing to see.
Same
This is why I initially played him (And absolutely sucked).
I ended up being on swordies but that Military-esque appeal is what had me try him out the first time. Maybe I should give him another shot.
Beginners choose characters because they're good. Masters choose them because they're funny.
Fun Fact: Snake was in a fighting game before Smash called Dream Mix TV. It was never released outside of Japan.
Simon Belmont was in that game as well
Snake was more surprising to me than Sonic was, even though Snake's history with Nintendo goes back further. The original Metal Gear was ported to the Famicom/NES after originally being on other Japanese computers. Funny thing, back in Brawl one of my nephew's favorite things was to play Snake, pick the red camo coloration, and pretend to be Dr. Eggman while fighting Sonic
And it turns out in Japanese, the voice actor for Snake is the son of the voice actor for Eggman, with some dialog in Brawl making allusions to that with Snake having an instinctual aversion to Sonic before even meeting him LOL
Jeez, I would have guessed that his frame data was literally twice as slow as it is, for how hard it hits. Frame 3-6 for moves that do that much damage is a crime.
Remember that meta knight and Kirby up throw can kill him at zero if he grabs his grenade
Nobody plays either of them
Charizard
A bit off topic, but as someone who doesn't play smash, it's so fascinating that every community for their respective game has their own terminology and strategies.
The terms are going to be completely different for a game like Destiny than a game like Minecraft.
I just find that really cool; despite the fact that they are all video games, the communities around these games have managed to come up with strategies, tactics, terms and other stuff that only that specific community would know.
Before I started watching his videos on smash, I had no idea just how complex this game could get.
I’m also gonna use this video as a reminder to attempt to shield getup attacks after down throw for nasty up-tilt punishes, hehe.
Given how ridiculously absurd Ultimate got with the two DLC packs, in Smash 6, Snake should get his butt and second landmine back at least.
And he’s fun because it’s almost like you get to be a goofball. In fact, it’s almost expected of him when he’s on the stage.
Losing as Snake is a choice.
Loosing as Sonic is a choice
Losing as Steve is a choice.
Losing as Kazuya is a choice
What an ignorant statement
@@andreazhab called a joke
Love your work. Would be intetested to see one of these on Banjo!
Snake?! SNAKE! SNAAAKE!!! That was me when Snake was cut in smash 4 😿 I love how many franchises are in smash it's so beautiful to see them together! ❤
You’re so pretty!
@@ElenaFey 🦦
"Snake has wingdings" Funniest thing you said in one of these videos, ngl.
You should make a why no one plays banjo, he has insane combos and crazy techs but has to work significantly harder to get percent than pretty much any other character since raw side bs only work online and his attacks generally do nothing. His techs could push him upwards but they are super hard to pull off with the minigun breegull blaster being a near frame perfect tech if not frame perfect.
I personally see a lot of banjos online; but yeah strange how few competitive banjos there are.
@@anthonygillette pretty sure most of it comes down to how much harder he has to work to get damage, his combos are more convoluted than pretty much any character and possibly harder than any other character to get full use from breegull blaster combos on top of some of his techs being frame perfect and his kill moves being very reactable with his side b pretty much always hitting shield in offline play. People play him online because wonderwing isn't really reactable with the like 12 frames of input lag. Also competitive players can easily mash out of his down throw. His aerials and tilts do criminally low damage, for example his up air only does 7.4 damage, his back air does 8%, his nair does 9.7%, etc... He does have some insane combo potential, but pulling it off in game vs training mode is a completely different story - realistically most of the damage banjo gets on enemies is from tacking small hits on and winning neutral with his neutral b and down b which are really good at walling off his opponents, but if you begin to compare him against top tiers it becomes really apparent why he's not very played - banjo has to win neutral trades like 7-8 times to put an opponent at kill percent, meanwhile characters like kazuya only need one. He does have a few strengths like a multitude of recovery mixups, invincible roll with a hitbox when rolling onto stage with a bomb in hand, insanely good projectiles, trapping opponents into getting hit by wonderwing, insane combo potential if unlocked and at if you play at a tas level he's probably the best character in the game because of the minigun tech making it so he has an infinite but that's incredibly impractical and nearly impossible. Banjos skill curve is insane, at a noob level hes strong because of wonder wing, but at a mid level he's definitely low middle tier, and possibly if his potential is completely unlocked at a high level he possibly could jump up a few tiers. Either way most people aren't down to practice and learn him because putting years of practice into banjo won't net as much results as sinking a year or two into a top tier.
TL:DR: he has a hard time damaging opponents and some of his kill confirms are unreliable in a competitive scene. His frame data isn't too amazing and his hitboxes aren't really anything special. His saving grace is his amazing projectiles and wonderwing which likely are the main reason people don't consider him bottom tier. I'm sure the main reason he isn't popular competitively is because you have to work significantly harder for damage than most if not all characters which really means sinking more time into him would net less results than sinking time into higher tier characters.
Bc he lame
banjo is a dorky ass character
When Banjo first came out I thought at minimum he'd be mid-high tier.
Maybe bias since he's my main. I love playing him despite his faults offline.
9:45 I'm glad you said it. Someone once said his side B is better than some characters entirely, I don't remember who.
I'm a snake main. One of my favorite things about it is watching my opponents, who may even have started the match with a clear advantage, clearly get worn down and sloppy
But then they still may get the win because I derped out and C4'd myself loo
. haha etc. commnt is spot on. i gt good with him bt at times u can 4gt when ur constntly reactng in crnch time-
Snake and Diddy Kong were always the toughest fights for me. Snake especially can zone you like crazy, and make it back to stage unless you smack him into oblivion.
I just love watching good Snake players because there's just explosions everywhere and chaos reigns
I think to put it simply he's a lot like Game n Watch or Steve where he has an unorthodox way of fighting so he's a matchup check, but what makes them so good is that evem once you learn the matchup your still fighting a strong character at the end of the day
i couldn’t stop thinking about the bo2 menu music during this video
A lot of people play snake because he’s kind of one of the most unique characters in the sense that a lot of his moves change his hurt boxes and very advantageous ways. The other huge reason is his really dominant neutral game. His grenade is powerful and extremely versatile. It’s also armed on frame one so it can be used to disrupt combos and force what would’ve been an easy kill for his opponent into an uncomfortable 50-50. The big reason he stands out as a controller is because he has the utility to be able to have the advantage in almost any situation. That combined with his insanely powerful melee attacks and easy to combo grabs make him extremely popular. that being said, his Speed, jump height, and speed in the air leave a lot to be desired so he is actually kind of balanced because you’re constantly having to work around your awful movement to be able to get the correct set up for situations.
Snake has wingding normals is a wonderful phrase
Kept Us Waiting Huh?
There are like three characters who are why no one plays caliber (Banjo-Kazooie, Jigglypuff, Peach), why everyone plays caliber (Bowser, Palutena, Game & Watch), why no one-everyone plays (Lucina over Marth, Mario over Dr. Mario, etc.) and the problem with Min Min.
There is no problem with Min-Min.
Min min is fine i don't get the hate towards her
@@Dowonutz HUH? Edgeguarding from across the stage is fine? having the most non projectile range and that is completely intangible is fine? Having incredible boxing tools despite having said range is fine? Have an extremely fast reflector so that you can't get pressured by zoners is fine? Idk where you got the sentiment min min was ok, but please understand how wrong you are.
this sentence makes absolutely no sense to me
@@infernomaster1030 I think she's fine because she still has weaknesses and bad matchups, unlike someone like steve. She's honestly not that annoying and she's also not a common character to come accross. She's a strong character that has flaws and can be exploited, she's not op.
the black ops 2 music at the end, so nice. Still my favorite COD game .
Actually you did forget something. HIS RPG YO!!! That forward smash is also worth mentioning. It’s an extremely powerful and large aoe move that can two frame kill most characters extremely early.
Snake has always been a beast in these games, he’s been my main second to Terry
Brawl was flawed but probably the most influential in the series. Brawl is when smash bros as a celebration of gaming became a thing and that began with snake. Hoping for doomguy in smash 6 and maybe a moba charachter too. Its insane that first person shooters and mobas havent been represented yet outside mii suits.
The Black Ops 2 music in the video fits so well it’s actually impressive
Just hitting someone with snakes explosives is just a chef's kiss to playing snake
Man Snake's just dishonest, why did they give a trapper zoner so many amazing close range options, like does he really need that up-tilt jeez
Just replace "up-tilt" with "down-tilt", "nair", or "side-b" and you can say the same about ROB, honestly
Is that the bo2 multiplayer theme in the background 😂
Yea but why is no one playing Corrin?
Who?.. Wait, wrong channel. And I now realize it was the even more forgettable FE character.
Because Byleth is better
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They actually are lol. Still, as a Corrin main I’d love to hear what Vars has to say about them.
@@geoticmelody4581 sure, but still
"Thanks to his ability to throw tons of different projectiles and hazards at you, you're essentially fighting two characters at once - him and his bombs."
This is a really apt analogy - and, in fact, why I consider puppet characters to be a subcategory of setplay characters (trappers). They actually share a really similar game plan and tools, with puppet characters just having all of the setplay tools centralized into a second character.
Playing snake is growing grenades, c4s, and missles and hoping it makes a cool combo
I like demo/soldier in tf2 cuz I like projectiles, Snake is maybe the closest thing to that for me for satisfying those projectile niches
Metal Gear is my favorite game series ever. I hope he makes it into the next smash.
Why wouldn't he? I think it'd be awesome if they brought more characters from MGS, like Raiden or Gray Fox
@@divagaciones1628 because konami? he was excluded from sm4sh becuase of that and one of the hardest characters to get int oult
@@xolotltolox7626 yeah sad but true he probably only came back because of everyone is here :( i wish he will stay
When I fight a Snake as Samus, I try to snuff out his grenade control with lots of small charge shots
Love how these vids, and how detailed your overviews are.
I also wanted to point out another really cool thing about grenades that I think we all understand, but isn't explicitly said much:
Grenade adds a 4th layer to disadvantage when snake is in tumble. Ordinarily, in tumble, it's like RPS. Jump, air dodge, or attack. But Snake being able to grenade allows him to avoid needing to tech anytime he's in tumble. Practically, it just falls under the similar umbrella of needing to always be wary of Snake's grenades when juggling, but it's worth noting that if snake didn't want to, he never has to tech when in tumble.
Something not mentioned that I feel *really should be*
That fucking back throw… I swear to god I cannot explain this well enough but the angle it bounces people off of the ground is *brutal* for comboing into kills
Players wanted him back
I play snake because i like venom snake but he’s not in the game so solid is the next best thing
I love it when snake plays hero as a hero main
The black ops 2 music at the start sent me back holly
Still waiting for the “why no one plays little Mac” video which is only like, 10 seconds long and consists of you just saying “Bro, it’s little Mac”
Wow there’s still people out there who doesn’t know Peanut Little Mac yet. It’s been 2 years bruh. You should know what mac is capable of by now
I always love snake and watching good snake players that outsmart the opponent. Or just seeing people go boom!
I love fighting agiqnsed em too w my main. A battle of the trappers!!
Also villager video when? Lol.
Thank you for reminding us the basics of CQC
Let's not forget about his Forward Air sending his opponents down to hell with the same leg as the one he uses for his up tilt.
Who is this "Sneak" character you keep mentioning? I thought this video was about Snake.
"Solid Snehk"
Playing against Snake feels like you’re playing with stage hazards on, even when playing with competitive rules
Down-tilt can combo into dash attack at insanely low percents on most characters.
Can you do “Why No One Plays Banjo-Kazooie”?
Is Banjo in smash? hahaha
@@PeachRap He’s one of my secondaries along with Ganondorf, Bowser, and Min-Min.
@@Venom-el5ne I looove Ganondorf actually, is side B can be very traumatising for early noobs who'll just roll out of it haha
Can you stop commenting this on every video?
@@JuanCarlos-vq1cj says the CAPS LOCK LINK DUDE haha
Because I like Metal Gear
i still remember the absolute HYPE i got seeing steve get revealed
although i did grow up in golden era (2012-2016) of minecraft content so💀
If only they didn't nerf his best attribute in ultimate 😔
Colonel decided to take matters in his own hands
Kept you waiting, huh? To be serious though, in the next Smash game, if we even do get a completely new one and not a Mario Kart 8 style port, then I personally believe that they will try to keep as many characters as legally possible. I think that after the backlash against Smash 4 for cutting characters for no reason like Wolf in particular, that unless it is EXTREMELY legally difficult, they will keep the character, so this basically includes most of, if not, all first party characters as well as a at least a good amount of third parties like the ones from Sega, Capcom, and Bandai Namco. Hell, I mean with how we can now get more than one third party character per franchise, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting Tails and/or Eggman, Megaman X, Yu Narukami, Chun Li, etc. in the next game. I also believe that not only will they keep most, if not all echos, I think that they will actually add even more, because it is kind of an easy cop out way of adding fan favorite characters who would feel like clones otherwise.
I personally don't have high hopes that we're going to get a "the next one", at least not under Sakurai. Ultimate was already starting to strain under the massive size of it's roster, 82 fighters is almost four whole games worth of characters, unless they're going the lazy route and re-using old assets there's no way we're going to get another game with a roster that big. Pokemon is having the same problem right now with the national dex.
@@kevingriffith6011 Smash 6 will probably follow the Ultimate path, where we'll have all the characters with similar moveset and adding new ones, since they already did the hard work of bringing everyone back, now they can focus much more on the newcomers, so Smash 6 will most probably have much more newcomers than Ultimate, easily over 100 fighters.
@@Zenitsu-zq4pj See, here's the problem with that: You can't just drop the old models and animations into the new game. The fighters aren't "already done", they have to be re-built basically from the ground up for every single game: The only things they don't have to do is imagine a moveset for them. When a hypothetical Switch 2 comes out, would people really tolerate a game that looks like it came from the last generaton's hardware? Probably not, but that's what porting the old models would do.
@@kevingriffith6011 Yes, but they probably have tools and programs to automate and facilitate this process, otherwise they wouldn't be able to add all those newcomers + all the old characters from previous games in Ultimate in so little time. Of course it's not simple nor easy at all, but I'm sure they already have everything planned for the next Smash for the "Switch 2", including an estimated release date.
@@Zenitsu-zq4pj All I'm saying is that realistically if we're going to get more smash content it's probably going to be in a "Smash Ultimate, Complete edition" or something like that. Adding on to ultimate directly rather than making a new smash title. Making all of ultimate again from scratch is unrealistic. Smash ultimate got made unreasonably quickly by all reports (2 and a half years from conception, lightning speed for a project of such a scale and only possible thanks to backup from multiple major studios. Something I don't see happening again any time soon, especially considering the cost of such an endeavor)
BO2 menu music in the background got me HELLA nostalgic
Snake's Classic Mode {for the Challenges} was such a PAIN to do, but I got to 9.9. easily with him without losing a single life even if I've NEVER played with him before. I LOVE the Metal Gear Solid music in Ultimate, like Encounter, Yell 'Dead Cell' and Cavern among others, though, the first being THE BOSS where you fight her possessing Zero Suit Samus. The Boss was the first Legend Spirit I had obtained and I just fell in love with the SNAKE EATER remix! Also, my beloved Sephiroth amiibo easily destroyed a Snake Level 5 CPU during their fight at Bridge of Eldin's Omega Stage, by PERFECT SHIELDING against his explosives and letting him get hit by his own grenades and get a Star KO instead when Snake was on his last Stock. That was INSANE!
The classic combo vid for brawl is why everyone I know plays snake
"M.Fucking STEVE *-Vine Boom-*" I wasen't ready for that.
Yeah Snake is a powerhouse, I've got a kid at my locals that's 5 years younger than everyone else and last time he swooped he's a monster, but he also admits that Snake carries him a bit.
BABY WAKE UP VARS POSTED
8:23 "there's no other character in the game with a projectile that you can remotely control"
ness lucas and pitt: umm what?
He acknowledged this mistake in the very top of the video.
What’s Yoshi’s use status?
This is why I love Snake. Not sure if it’s because I’m a Snake main (and that the game doesn’t match you up against the same character often) but I don’t regularly see many people playing Snake. I play at around 10-13million gsp and I’ve seen about 4/5 other Snakes in the last 6 months. Keeping in mind the game has terrible algorithms for match ups I swear I fight the same group of people of similar GSP all the time.
I love that you picked Black Ops 2 music for him!
Snake neutral b is the one of most annoying thing in the game
@@notoriousd69 trruu
At least he takes damage in order to balance things out.
The Black Ops 2 multiplayer menu theme slaps. Good choice
you've done 32 of these and still havent reached zss. honestly i feel like shes the most compelling character in this context bc on paper shes broken, but in practice shes nearly the opposite. and at one point in ult it felt like everyone played her, like joker.
Every time I fight against her in quick play I get stomped lol
Sounds like some zss sucks propaganda
@@RedBookBag420 nah not really, i think shes still top tier LOL
She is broken, only literally. lol
Great thumbnail ofc. But I feel like a good pun would have been “Everyone is Snake” instead of the tagline of everyone is here
AYO THE BO2 SOUNDTRACK IN THE BG 🕺🎉
bo2 music? based
Snake is sick. Love everything about his design. Although I will say, I'm surprised you didn't mention his down throw at all, the amount of fear that puts into people is very much note-worthy to say the least.
What is bo2?
@@intensellylit4100 black ops 2
No other character that can remotely control projectiles: pit moment
You forgot: His f-air spike is thee most satisfying to hit.
Am I the only one who gets really confused when playing against Snake?
If insanely strong smash AI ever becomes a thing, I think the strongest AI will be snake. He can control so much of the screen and kill easily.
I think I'm going to have to add this guy to my list
I love snakes versatility
Vars wasn't even in elementary school when they announced snake for Brawl in 2005
Is you reasoning on why everyone plays snake because people specifically know and choose snake for being a mu check and having fundies or people coincidentally playing snake for other reasons is a byproduct of snake being a mu check and having fundies? Because i think most people just play snake because hes cool or visually appealing or smth.
I think he is mostly talking about top level gameplay
Boom!
Cause he's a kitchen sink zoner, he's thick, good close range and recovery.
I’d recognize that Black Ops 2 menu music anywhere. Nice.
Please, allow me
"Grenades go brrrr"
I thought his grenades have a uniquely smaller blast-radius for himself? Meaning, if both characters are exactly equal distance from the explosion, it can hit Snakes enemy but not him.
Or was that something from Brawl/Sm4sh/some weird dream?
Yes! snek!
8:22
Ness joins the chat
Do a why no one plays pacman. Everyone agrees that he's top tier but he's uncommon.
Excuse me?
Pac Man has a high ratio amount of players in every Region.
PLEASE DO WHY NO ONE PLAYS LINK! I love your videos and he is another trapper that has tons of potential but is not widely used like Snake/Rob/Pacman 😢
I would love to see that video too. If I had to guess, I'd say a lot of his best normals have brutally long end lag, making him committal and unsafe, while his best trapping abilities require lots of practice and big brain plays to pull off
@@davidlane1248 he is good but it is a case of why bother with Link when there are other easier options? I think he has a unique toolset that could be amazing in the right hands tho
Link has worse frame data and a worse disadvantage across the board compared to those three characters. Pac-Man, snake, and Rob have all have good close quarter combat options (as he discusses snakes in this video) where as link has none. All 3 of those characters have better recoveries then link as well, leaning into the better disadvantage. To sum it up link is a traditional zoner with traditional zoner weaknesses, whereas the three characters you named are zoners who don’t have those traditional zoner weaknesses.
@@RedBookBag420 totally! That is my theory as to why no one seems to play Link. There are some Link players getting results in regionals and online tournaments, but it is clear that we Link players are character loyalists.
@@RedBookBag420 Extremely well said
Designing For explains the appeal of Snake in Smash Bros!
I'm playing as snake in this moment because he is one of the most powerful fighters in game 🎉
Request to do why everyone plays Palutena
Funny how this video popped up. I literally just picked up Snake a couple weeks ago, and plan on duo maining him with Sephiroth.
Originally planned on solo maining Sephiroth, but realized that I stop focusing whenever I tried to solo main a character. I do better rotating between a couple characters as it prevents my brain treating the game like a chore. Came back from playing different fighting games got me into the mindset to reset my brain on how I view characters.
Planned on having a character for each range, and different playstyles. Sephiroth was mid-range, and covered the swordie playstyles. (Sorry Ridley, Byleth, and many more. Forcing myself to stick to one swordlike character!)
I'm still currently trying to figure out a close range fighter. One that won't die instantly (sorry Pichu, it was fun!). One that can force the opponents to do things (sorry old pal Meta Knight!). Fox, Sheik, Falcon, all solid picks but not super attached to those characters and view them as "the faces of competitive smash", so that's an emotional barrier I have to get over if I were to pick any of those 3. Inkling, Sonic, Yoshi are pretty likely due to gameplay and having some emotional attachment to them, but I have to play them more to find out if the negatives about them comes true, or if they are even a problem.
However, considering about making exceptions for Lucario, Ryu, Kazuya, and Ridley (Ridley still has the most hours currently, and my emotions love to pick him the most frequently if I let my emotions pick a character). It's very hard to totally rule these out. I also haven't given Kirby a fair shot competitively. They all play in a weird way compared to other characters too.
However, long range/projectile focused was much easier to figure out. Links will make me swap between them all the time, so I just can't allow myself to play one. Samus is meh, except charge shot, but at that point I'd rather play Lucario. Most other zoners I like at least a bit as a character (I mean, literally everyone is fun to play in the roster), and have above average fun gameplay since it's more than just pressing forward and attack, but nothing that stands out. Notable exception is Duck Hunt, because I don't care about that character in the slightest, but hot dang is that gameplay among the most fun. You're always throwing stuff out, and the can allows for so many fun situations.
So process of elimination, I was very close to finding out my long range character.
Rosalina & Luma was very tempting for a while, until I ran into Snake. Lumas die so easily, so for some players/matchups it's unlikely to ever get to use her unique mechanic at all. Snake however, gets to have separated from him all game. I play chess as my other competitive game, so hearing people say Snake is like "chess in smash" I thought it was overhyped, and then would be laughing too much at his explosions whenever I did play him. Though after really sitting down with him, it's hard to go back. There's always something to think about, and the focus on controlling multiple areas on the map, willingness to sacrifice to get a better position, and always thinking about what your opponent is doing (more so than a lot of other characters) made me really see the comparison.
Now back in Brawl, I didn't like Snake because I assumed he was just yet another shallow gritty tough guy. Since then I realized that his games are more in-depth and cover some interesting subjects, but they also strike an amazing balance by being extremely goofy at the same time (still haven't played one yet though). This is shown really well in how he's presented in smash, gameplay is heavy on thinking, but those explosions are hilarious and silly.
We'll see how long Snake lasts, but right now it's hard to see what could cause me to stop playing Snake. Especially since a lot of people used to come to me for matchup experience with Snake, even though at the time I did not practice him when Ultimate was new. Yet was kicking my competitive friend's butts with him. He's just one of those day 1 naturally good with characters just like Sephiroth was.
. thick ass essay. bt i fl u. hope u gt good with snake. feels
Off topic question but have you ever considered making a video on Fate Grand Order? Id personally love to hear your thoughts on each class, card type and so on
rosalina has a projectile that she can control
My Wolf/Fox and I we love fighting Snakes 😹