Line 6 Finally Nailed the JCM800 (& More) | Helix Firmware 3.70
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00:00 - Hello
00:33 - Brit 2204
01:00 - Brit 2203
03:56 - Bassman Model
05:18 - Nobels ODR
06:31 - Non-Linear Reverb
09:02 - Catalyst Amps
12:12 - Feedbacker
12:59 - Conclusion - เพลง
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Updated yesterday, and there is a lot of fun packed into it! Really enjoying the new Amps and Effects. Haven't had a chance to try the new Cabs yet.
I need to do more testing, but all my Presets sounded about 3-8% louder than before. I run all my Presets with the volume set at noon on my HX Stomp, and had to turn it down to about 11 o'clock. Also, the Presets sounded bassier, smoother, and fuller - More Fractalish. 👍 Will have to see if I think the same today. Thanks.
Leon is an amazing person. I received a beautiful present from him for the approaching Christmas. We all watch these videos with enthusiasm. I don't know anyone who can produce such beautiful sounds on practically any guitar hardware. A person with a big heart and a huge perspective. Best guitar youtuber for me. Keep making these perfect and fun videos which are very inspiring for all guitarists. I like how you experience it when you play. You can see that it is purely from the heart. I also like the guitar so much and even though I'm not such a top player, it's also my passion. I wish everyone here a wonderful Christmas and lots of music.
Guitar is a wonderful instrument. The more you give it, the more it gives you back!
Just got my first HX Stomp, and loving it. Thank you so much for the inspiring and sharing your knowledge to us mortals :-)
Have fun!
I like using the feedbacker as an 'always on' when I'm doing ambient soundscape. I run a drone in front [poly sustain] and then it feeds the feedbacker. Put some big delay and verb behind it- instant Joshua Tree vibes.
Hitting those classic MSG riffs mate! Good job.
Great video Leon! Was great to hear your spin on the latest Helix firmware :) Especially the 2203 model
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm actually excited for the feedbacker. Like the Digitech Freqout before it, this is a useful little tool to give some real feel when playing in a silent stage situation. As for the rest, I've been quite happy with amps and fx that have been added in past updates to really care for the new stuff; still it's quite impressive how the keep updating and tweaking these units after almost a decade.
2203 sounded so good to my ears when I updated firmware and selected it. Miles better than the 2204 and even the placater in my book. Thanks for still posting some line 6 treats for us !
Yeah it's got "it" doesn't it?
It's the trade mark Kerrang as Leon said that the 2204 and other things in helix were missing until now. It's been over a decade since I had a real 2203 but this is bringing back memories! And much better for my hearing!
Those new amps sounds great. What a time to be a guitarist!
That is commitment, to release updates to now quite old Helix system.
But still making it better.
What ever, when ever they are releasing next, they have really robust foundation to do so.
oh man i love hearing those ac/dc riffs you put here and there. I bet you grew up on it. right on!!
I hate the lag when switching patches and been struggling for years to get a Marshall patch to do a good sounding clean to dirty to high gain all in one patch due to the 3 snapshot limit of the HX Stomp. I had to settle for switching patches and a Friedman BE model. The BE model sounded the best but it lacked some girth and that glassiness. After the update, I tried the 2203 with the Prize Drive and with minimal tweaking, got a good sounding Marshall patch! This was a nice and much needed update!
Winning!
The 2203 is rapidly becoming my favourite model in the helix. Surprisingly versatile. Wasn't a fan of the previous one. I used to go for the jtm45 model.
I've owned, repaired, or played more blackface era Fender amps than I can count...
One of the best clean tones I've ever had came from my '86 2204.
Bit of guitar face is always fun...now I want an HX stomp again! Keep it up, Leon! Love your content!
Couldn't agree more about the JCM800. Never been truly happy with the Marshall models, but the new one feels just right. Still have a lot of exploration to do, but so far this is a stellar upgrade. And I appreciate the attention to Helix-- Thx.
Right on! I thought about you with this one :)
That new outro sounds killer!
A great review of the update. What are your delay settings? Sounds something I've been looking for a while.
Armed and Ready from Leon always delivers!!!!
G'Day Legends!
I had a classic 2203 combo, it didn't deliver the goods. Thinking was due to it being a. Open back 2x12 combo. Plus you had to wind up to insanedecibels to really make it breathe.
That sounds great, and a helix is half the price of an FM9 and it comes with an EXPRESSSSION PEDAL! If Line 6 could nail a few other amps like Mesa's, Diezel, ENGL etc, that would be awesome.
SMASHING!!!
VERY helpful, sir
I love you man because Armed and Ready often flies out in your vids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Schenker forever!
Thanks Leon, your freakin amazing! What delay model did you use for the demo?
Much appreciated! Either the multitap or the criss cross delay, I'll have to check.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day leon ❤😊
Good show mate.
I always say This there is Fractal & Helix, then there are all the others 🤘
Also Nice shoutout to James Freeman, in which this Update is unofficially called lol
Kemper smokes Helix for amp tones. Much better delays and reverbs too.
😂 I'm easily triggered, I saw JCM800 in the thumbnail! 😁And started grinning like a Cheshire cat....love when you shred that amp. I'm new to line 6...but I do know my pod go is still surprising me after a year of owning it.🙏🤘🎸
Hopefully they can get that 2203 into the Go!
That new JCM800 model crushed it. Apparently the original amp model was accurate, just to the one they had which was missing a bright cap. Whatever. But that and the new dynamic cabs have been worth the price of admission alone. I have a bunch of IRs, but being able to get a 4x12 V30 or Greenback30 now with sm57 on center, 1-1.5 back, and either another 57,421, or 121 on the edge, 1-4 back, with a 45 degree option? ::chef's kiss::
The Catalyst amps are surprisingly awesome. Line 6 has been somewhat killing it with their originals of late. The Voltage and Oblivion are great. I also love the Ventoux from previous updates.
As much as I love authentic recreations of classic amps, new designs are even cooler.
@@LeonTodd Yep. I've had enough Plexi and Fender DR models to last a lifetime. It's nice to finally have a decent JCM though. I paid $99 on Helix Native about 5 years ago and it's still giving me enormous value.
Everyone raving about this update and that's understandable. But why the hell did it take them 8 years and "all that work convincing them to do this" to get a legit 800 model?? That's crazy.
So much easier to just start with a better platform.
Because they are stubborn and proud and it took a guy named James Freeman to grill them endlessly about how shit their Marshall models were and shame them in public forums for them to give up and do it. Google it it's pretty funny!
Maybe 8 years ago it was good enough. Their technology has evolved dramatically with 3.0 and 3.5.
Either the reference amp they owned was busted or they didn't model it properly. Literally took a dude on their forums to hound them about it and post multiple comparison clips to get it done.
I mean, I don’t know… I don’t know enough about programming and sound waves and how to model that but it’s here now, so why continue to complain? 😂
Yeah, that's a massive difference. Can't say I noticed how much more... toothless the original version was. The characteristic bright bite is crystal clear now.
You switched to an Axe FX III MkII Turbo @2:04 didn't you - and it sounded glorious! All it needed was the feedbacker and it would've been absofuckingtotalutely brilliant.
Nice playing nice sounds, were you always a modeler guy or did it take helix to bring you over.
I finally gave in to John Cordy's relentless HX Stomp videos. Got one this year. It is awesome. But didn't think the JCM800 was good enough. Then this came out. Thrilled. Been A/B-ing with 2203 NAM's and its pretty good!
A thousand percent....I did the same and feel the same about the 2203
@@Bluesplayer789 I'm amazed that I bought a product so late and have been so lucky with updates! I think it's complete now! 2203 was last piece of puzzle for me
@@Bluesplayer789 although now I wonder what other amps they may update the models of or introduce.
@@ToneDeth. Everything else in the unit!!!
@@vaughanmacegan4012 yeah if it's just DSP and updates don't see why they can't update all the fender twin, deluxe, etc to sound better from a new model. Also lol at fractal doing a new 2203.
Bassman and Nobels sounds GREAT. Feedbacker riffs sounded like you needed to break out into the Loud Love riff \m/
Yeah the Bassman is legit. I've probably complained about the "feel: thing with some stuff on the Helix but that one feels really good.
Definitely lost that bees-in-a-box simulation! 😂😊
Starts video playing in background, hears Armed and Ready, instant attention.
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I just downloaded it last night, l’m going to check it out today.
I’m also going to look up how to connect my Vox toneLab to
The helix using sends and returns. If you have some suggestions
For that. Thanks
yeah such a good amp. they need to do this with the pv Panama too, or add the evh amp's in the HELIX
There is PV Vitriol amp model (from the Peavey Invective, which is basically an upgraded amp from the 5150 (PV Panama)).
I think that it's what you are looking for.
@@lebebop1682 yeah I love the vitriol. Signature model of misha mansoor (invective) but I also like if they can add some evh amps and ofcourse the boogie mark C++. Oh well, i’m happy with the helix
@@Bjornsguitarspecials Yeah the Mark II C++ or the JP2C would be my dream amp.
I hope it will be in the Helix one day
Sounds bad ass. Now they just need a legit Mark IIc+ model. The Cali IV is decent but not quite there.
Nice video as always. The riff you often play (I think in this video at about 12:25) is very cool. What is that from? I haven't gotten past the ODR-1 model yet, but that is an awesome addition. Now if I could just get my Crowther Hotcake I'd be satisfied.
Ragdoll - Heaven Above. Love the Hotcake, probably my favourite drive in the Axe-Fx
Checking it out now. Cool tune, great riff/melody. @@LeonTodd
mind sharing your presets for helix? thanks
LOL i didn't know you did Helix, I've owed a helix since 2015, and recently bought a FM3 turbo
Modellers are like Pokemon, gotta catch'em all!
hows the fm3? thinking about getting one
@@wonderz_808 I'm probably the wrong guy to be asking I still use a helix live, but with an amplifier. No modeling. I'm just using the FM3 at home right now For practicing and recording through my monitors. That sounds pretty good. In my personal opinion I think they need to revamp the whole fractal system. Helix is way ahead as far as ease of use. and snapshots and comes with a Built-in pedal. imo. i'm also in my 60's but still gigging weekly.
Would have preferred this to the HBE in the Express. And while they are at it bring back the Soldano as the lead like it was on the original pod
ARMED AND REEEEADY! Love me some Michael Schenker 😎
I wish they could make a digital feedbacker pedal. It would be easier than to install a sustainiac system.
Digitech Freqout
Everyone should have access to a decent JCM 800. Yeah for happy guitar fanatics!
Amen!
The bright cap is a blessing and a curse on 800’s. Guess that’s why they left it out (on previous models). I like it for gain but wish you could switch it off on the low gain input for clean sounds. But overall pretty sweet.
Try running it with the Line 6 Doom in parallel. It’s an 800 with a HiWatt 6550 power section. Working on a patch now with ribbon mics and Greenback/v30 dual cabs.
800/Hiwatt hybrid ! Get in me
Fractal has to get on board with the Nobel drive and the feedback effect like the freqout
Nobels just got added. You can get a pretty convinving feedbacker using an exp pedal and the synth block already, but a block would be sweet.
Hello , who is James freeman? Thanks great video
May I ask what IR are you using with the JCM?
My free LT TV Mix 7 IR (in the video description).
Hi Leon! Would you mind letting me know what song you're playing at 10:17? I can't remember the name of it for the life of me and it's bothering me to no end 😂
Psalm of Lydia by Nevermore
Still waiting on a proper Mark 2C type
How does it stack up to the Lion?
Looking forward to trying the Lion and comparing!
What IR are you using here? for the JCM? Your one, on the link?
Yes
I have to admit that the feedbacker sounds way cooler than its description. Definitely gonna check that out when I update.
Also - how did you set up the EQ block before the Marshall block? Just plain curious.
Oh yeah I should have mentioned! 6dB boost at 2khz, low cut at 120hz, overall boost of 10dB
@@LeonTodd thanks! Gonna try it out myself!
Weird, I tried the new JCM amp models in my HX and they still sound like s**t compared to my FM3. I'll look at Atomic again for budget Marshall modelling.
Hi Leon, is it possible to buy your My HX Stomp Preset Pack separately so that I don't have to subscribe for months? I love your Grease factory patch with IR LT TV mix7. The Delay setting is famous.
We tried with a friend in his studio the Grease factory patch on hx stomp through a quality sound box and good monitors and when we started the backtrack and played on Gibson custom
I almost peed my pants. It sounded amazing.
For me you are the best youtuber on the web.
I don't want to commit for months. I just need your presets.
I will be glad if you at least answer me.
Hi Max
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Flick me an email Leontod@gmail.com
Thanks for the email, I sent you a message.@@LeonTodd
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If They only have 1 amp it should be 2203. Super versatile.
I’m disappointed because of the DSP to get feedbacker block for my preset
These companies are just tone matching Fractal now... If it sounds different than the Fractal, people complain, so now the smart companies are just using EQ match to make their old models sound like the competition. Not sure this is a good thing.
That Feedbacker should be named "Dingo Trap".
Still sounds lifeless compared to the fractal