ICE Train 20,000 miles North America Tour - Amtrak 1993
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The ICE Train - A Renaissance on Rails takes you on a rail trip through time. The InterCityExpress, a high speed passenger train which has attracted numerous European travelers back to the rails, made its U.S. debut in 1993 as part of Amtrak's high speed train trials and demonstrations. Built by Siemens and AEG, the ICE Train begins its tour in Pittsburgh, PA - the very heart of America's railroad industry.
Over the next 20,000 miles and 25 cities, the ICE Train dazzles train enthusiasts and spectators alike. Like its thousands of visitors and passengers, you will marvel at the sleek, contemporary design of the train, both inside and out. The ICE Train's historic visit to the U.S. for a tour of duty in Amtrak's Metroliner Service offers a glimpse of what rail travel soon may be like in the U.S.
"Die ICE Train North America Tour war eine sechsmonatige Präsentations- und Erprobungsfahrt eines deutschen ICE-Hochgeschwindigkeitszuges mit den Triebköpfen 401 084-9und 401 584-8 durch Nordamerika im Jahr 1993.
Der Hauptzweck der von Siemens und AEG organisierten Tour lag in der Präsentation der ICE-Technik im Vorfeld der für 1994 geplanten Neubeschaffung von 26 Hochgeschwindigkeitszügen durch die US-amerikanische Eisenbahngesellschaft Amtrak. Die neuen Hochgeschwindigkeitszüge sollten die Metroliner-Flotte der Amtrak ersetzen und auf der Strecke Washington-New York-Boston eingesetzt werden. In weiteren Korridoren war ein Einsatz geplant.
Neben einer transkontinentalen Reise in 25 Großstädte der USA verkehrte der Zug im Oktober und Dezember 1993 auf dem Nord-Ost-Korridor im Liniendienst." Video by Siemens AG
The "🍦" Train :D
İntercity-Express not Eis
@@sonnenscheinspottingdeutsc5934 ich weis, deswegen hab ich das ja geschrieben :D weil er das immermal im video sagt
🧊 train ! Americans cold ice ,why in Europe cold ai cee eee!
@Gravelpit is this a question? It's because the letters are spoken in German, not in English xd
Because all other trains freeze over in comparison
Every time he says ice I die a little bit inside
come to Germany we have five different variations of the ICE you can ride for as little as 12€ haha
Especially since it is known for air conditioning problems.
You guys pronounce it "I, See, E" right?
@@michlo3393 Ee-tse-eh, even.
@@michlo3393 "I, SEE,E" would be the correct english pronounciation. In Germany its more like "e-tseh-eh" :)
and yet almost half a century later, the US is yet to see true high-speed rail
Pretty deppressing tbh
That is capitalism and the wrong fear of “socialism” The now already achieved 100% car dependency will not end well …😡
@@wkaemena Exactly. USA, the Country where any kind of Worker's Rights are immidieatly labeled "Communism".
You will never have high speed trains.
Please don’t ever call 1993 “almost half a century” again, you made me feel ancient 😖
30 years later. the 401 still drives in germany, and i am proud to operate it.
Ey stellt euch mal so vor, ihr macht in USA Urlaub und dann kommt da einfach ein ICE 😂.
Schade, dass es damals nicht geklappt hat…
Vor allem mit den beiden Dieselloks davor 😉
So war das . Ich bin extra hingeflogen um von Washington nach New York damit zu fahren 1993
Niemand kann ihm entkommen👹👹👹
Er wäre eh zu spät 😂
Superb video, always very surreal seeing the ICE train passing in front of the Twin Towers!
While the ICE does look very much at home on the Northeast Corridor, I think the X2000, given the fact that there was limited scope to upgrade the infrastructure, would have been the better choice due to its tilting mechanism.
looks like a scene from a 90s adaption of man in the high Castle lol
@@Narthanael 8iî
They did offer a tilting ICE as well for the serial production, in cooperation with FIAT.
The tilting ICE was not developed yet in 1993 ICE-T came 1999 . However Sweden provided a tilting train for test runs in 1993 the X2000
Well this worked out well didn't it......
30 years on and there's been no further development. Absolutely pathetic. It doesn't portray America in a good light at all.
It's modern, fast, efficient and performs flawlessly!
'Murica: No Diesel, no thanks.
There is in fact a Diesel-Version of ICE :)
@@fahrbierdeit’s been retired a while ago
@@hohu2146 didn't they sell it to another country?
@@fahrbierde nope, there is only one ICE TD left as "Advanced Train Lab"
@@fahrbierde No, they were offered to the Danish railway, but they declined. They've all been retired now as the operation cost made them unviable and they were all due for a major overhaul. Last one was taken out of service in 2017. Only the testlab is left.
This looks like a report from a parallel universe!
That final shot of the ICE heading South from NYP with the twin towers in the background really is something special. The end annotations for watching the next video kinda interrupt it, though!
Never knew this before. Really interesting.
Sadly, nothing changed in the US.
As long as trains are considered as “socialism” nothing will change. Only big oil big car, big street, big airplane = big money will reign until the big wake-up call when the “last” drop of oil is wasted and transformed in smoke and noise-- but then it will be too late.
lustig finde ich den elend langen Pantografen wg. der extrem hoch montierten Oberleitungen in den USA (doppelstöckige Güterwagen)
One of the best trains ever. Still can be seeing in Germany.
59 of these train sets are still running at 280 km/h every day
@@wkaemena That's an ICE1 though, which have become rarer these days. I think ony a handful are still running. The majority of rolling stock are ICE2, ICE3 and ICE4s now. They are the back bone of DB's long distance network.
@@dschoene57 that's not right. I live in Munich (Germany) and these ICE1 are still in service in high numbers, i see round about 4 every day. 60 were built- 59 are still running, one crashed in Eschede with over 100 deaths...
@@ABCDEF-hd1xt They have become rare in the sense that now all of the remaining sets are stationed in Hamburg. Nowhere else and there's only a handful of lines left they are still operating. Hamburg-Altona to Munich is one of those few remaining lines, which is why you see them much more often in Munich than in most other parts of the network.
@@dschoene57 much more than only a hand full. They made now shorter compositions
Seeing that last scene with the Twin Towers was like seeing into an alternate reality. Sad 😔
North-east corridor should be rebuilt to 250 kmph in first place. It is a shame that eastern Megalopolis with such population and traffic on the highways doesn't have fast railway running in 30 minutes frequency: once Acela, next regional.
I can only just imagine in an alternate universe and timeline where the Federal Highway Act of 1956 wasn't signed into law. Instead had actual motorways that wasn't federally funded but to more local and regional. Without cutting throughb cities and urban places let alone bypassing them; Quality infastructure, innovation in transit, energy, mobility etc. etc.
The federal highway act destroyed the USA, lead to a now 100% car dependency,
One can dream, right? :D
Material from The ICE Train North American Tour '93 was used in Train Songs (1995) & Hard Hat Harry's Real Life Trains for Kids (1995)
Repost Comment since my original had few errors in it, sorry:
For Germans it's always Crazy to see their Trains Operating in other Countries, and the further away they operates the cooler it gets. The ICE 1 shown here wasn't the Last Train that Operated in the US: the ALP-45 and ALP-46 who operates as Passenger Locos are also German Made Trains that runs in Germany as "DB BR 101", which mostly Operates as Locomotive for the InterCity, or IC of the First generation, which - except of the Loco itself, looks like the ICE. the ALP-45 is more like a Exotic variant that we Germans never had, since the ALP-45 has only One Cab, and the other side is like a Direct Connection to the Passenger Coaches. We only have the 2 Sided Cab's variant.
In other Countries where I discovered German Made Trains:
North Korea Subway: D-Class and Gi-Class Subway Trains, both types are former BVG Subway Trains from Berlin back in 1990s which still operates in NK, the Gi-Class in NK operates as Rural Suburban Passenger Train with often attached Freight Cars to it. The Gi-Class in Berlin is also (Propably) still operating in Berlin, Atleast 2022 I saw one last time - Greece also had for a short time a Gi-Class train operating in Athen as Metro.
The Siemens Velaro, a High Speed Train, for Germany Known as ICE 3, also operates in China, Spain and Russia. The other Velaro version, known as ICE 3 Neo in GER, operates as Eurostar and Turkish Highspeed Train. The ICE TD once Operated once in Denmark, but today except one Train it's completely out of service. In South Korea, the Locomotive Class 8100 and Class 8200 are The same as the German DB BR 152, and in Kumamouto, Japan, there operates a Tram as Type 9700. It's design is Based of the GT6N-ZR, a Berlin Variant of the GTxN Tram series that mostly Runs in Germany.
There are many More Trains and Locos that operates in far away Countries, like in few US cities there are Diesel Powered Trams, in Germany those same Trains operates as Shuttle Express actually Operating in Rural Areas (if not DB) or as Disel Regio Train for non Electrified areas (if DB).
In Canada there were former out of Service DB Trains like the TALENT 1 which were sold to the O-Line as Shuttle Express Train, those Trains still had their Original Color and even Original interior seat-design from DB.
In many Eastern Europe Countries like Czechoslovakia or even in Lviv, Ukraine, there are some KT4 Trams that came from the BVG, Berlin. Those Trams even Have the Original Yellow Color Aswell the Original Seat designs. These Trams in Berlin however are completely out of Service Today.
Doesn't Canada also partly use PZB for some lines?
The LHB coaches in Indian Railways were also imported from Germany as they were built in the Salzgitter plant of LHB, which was later taken over by Alstom. And Siemens Mobility last year bagged the largest contract for 1000 freight electric locomotives.
Es ist witzig wie fast alle erstmal auf englisch kommentiert und danach die Unterhaltung auf deutsch weitergeführt wird.
Irgendwo auf TH-cam gibt es eine lange Doku über die Zuggarnituren, die die USA getestet haben und wie es danach weiter ging.
The train still runs (and is very nice) in Germany today. I can only imagine how exciting and futuristic it must have seemed to people in the US in 1993!
It was also a reliable and proven design, passengers liked it, so what went wrong? I'm guessing the decision not to introduce ICE was a purely political one?
In fact it seems in 30 years the rail technology of the US has barely evolved at all. Best country in the world 😒
Do you know what it’s serial number is? I want to find it in the online train databases.
ICE-Hochgeschwindigkeitszuges mit den Triebköpfen 401 084-9 und 401 584-8 durch Nordamerika im Jahr 1993.
Nice archival promo. Also much appreciated for posterity properly transferring to digital this analog shot NTSC videotape in its full framerate. Most people botch this and you lose the smoothness of tape shot material by deinterlacing at the stored framerate which is only half the video fields.
Not to mention, keeping it's original 4:3 frame instead of stretched to fill 16:9 so everyone looks short and fat.. Along with up converting to 720p or better, to get around YT's awful 480p lower bit rate compression.
So, what went wrong? The car lobby?
Nice vid. Even the chinese have ICE3 (and also a TransRapid) !
Thanks a lot for this historical video document!
schon schön zu hören dass das die beste technik ist. :)
For English speaking people. You have to pronounce the letters ICE. The name does not mean frozen water. It means Intercity Express.
How do you pronounce GIF?
i wish this still existed.
People keep asking why we dont hae this yet. 1. The oil and auto industry industry 2. Heavy subsidies for the oil and auto industry 3. Heay lobbyist spending by the oil and auto industry. Spit out repeat. The sick regressive cycle
wirklich sehr interessantes Video
My favorite train...i.c.e. sooo beautyful so cool .frome pakistan
Almost like PR shalimar express
There is nothing changed in the US. Only unelectrified tracks.
Washington-Boston is fully electrified and “high speed” up to 135 mph
@@wkaemena *150 mph
And then the train has too be pulled by multiple diesel locomotives, cause there is almost no electrification outside the NEC… US infrastructure sucks.
This was a presentation of that train in several parts of the USA where suitable (electrified) corridors for High speed rail were proposed. So don’t complain of the diesel pulling cross country
Funfact! Die erste reguläre Fahrt von Washington DC nach New York City endete mit 35 Minuten Verspätung...
der Fluch der deutschen Bahn besteht weiterhin…
It is not the "ice" train ist an I.C.E like C.I.A or F.B.I you cannot speak it as word it is a shortcut of "Inter City Express"
30 years later ... nothing at all happend. Go figure!
Big oil / car / aviation lobbying against it
All slower than this except aviation, but slower because of the airport
Not entirely true, the US does run 150 mph electrified service on the NEC. We just don't have the will power to electrify the 150,000 or so miles of track and upgrade the infrastructure to accomodate high speeds because America's railroads are fractured into a half dozen independent operations that prefer to do their own thing.
beautiful
lol at how they call it ice train xD It's I-C-E, not ice
Welcher 401 war das nochmal? Muss mich hier in Deutschland mal auf die Suche nach ihm machen… fahren tut er ja meine ich noch
084/584
@@tpm2056 danke
Der fährt noch…erst kürzlich in München gesehen
As a German, personally i like the "Nickname" 🍦ICE Train, suits the white colour, but the meaning is I.C.E. it´s short for "Intercity Express", here in Germany the long distance Trains are I.C. (Intercity).
Historic ♥️👍
Yea But the DB have This Train still in Service 🥹
Why not go back with this one?
No one seems return as history.😔
0:13 Oh, for fuck's sake, it's NOT pronounced "🍨 Train", but rather "I.C.E. Train". Simple to grasp... that's what I thought at least.
We know, but this isn’t europe
@@goclunker What does that have to do with how to say it correctly?
@@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle this is what you focus your energy on?
Interesting.
ich finds ja auch super wie die amis einfach keine Oberleitungen haben & sich dann einfach gedacht haben “ach, scheiss drauf, spannen wir eine diesel vorne dran, wird eh keiner merken” lmfaoooo
Das war eine Vorstellungsreise und das ging nun mal nur mit Dieselvorspann quer durchs Land
Amtral ice 🥶🥶
What's the name of the documentary this is from? I like it!🔥🔥🔥
What happened to the 26 high speed train order? Did Siemens win? Did Amtrak order any trains?
They ordered the Acela
Alstom TGV variant
too bad this never happened. we are on our 4th (5th?) generation of high speed trains here in germany.
Test ICE and X2000 train in America is better than In-service train that America have currently
Ok, the ICE is a good thing . I hope the USA will get more electric lines.
Trains are considered in USA part of communism / socialism … what only counts are weapons, war, oil, cars, highway.“good“ is only all politics which leads to 100 % car dependency
@@wkaemena The US is kind of slowly going into trains. Just look at CHSR.
@@Mgameing123 The USA HAD the largest and best railway network and trains of the world … until the federal highway act which destroyed the railways and destroyed country and cities by horrendous freeways
@@wkaemena Yeah ik. But the US will need to revert the mistakes of the past.
Sehr geehrte Fahrgäste, in wenigen Minuten erreichen wir Chicago Hauptbahnhof. Hat was.
So interesting, also the X2000 that went to the US. Somehow I guess the Eurotrain never made it to the US though, only Korea when I'm right.
Alstom Wirth a TGV variant made it .
Sad we went with a botched TGV knockoff over the ICE 1.
You get what you get paid to get. ;D
Why did Amtrak reject this GREAT train? Seems absurd when comparing this to Acela.
Alstom "bribed" more.... ;-)
Alstom won the bid.
So why didn’t the US proceed with this beautiful train?
Because Alstom bribed more…
@@wkaemena but apparently Amtrak didn't get TGV, either?
@@tobyk.4911 the Acela is a TGV variant
Back in the days, where the Deutsche Bahn was actually punctual. I miss these times, even if I wasn't even born yet back then.
Wieviele fahren da heute in USA?
Das war eine Vorstellung des Zuges in den USA. Amtrak hat sich dann später entschieden TGV ähnliche Züge zu beschaffen. Dieser ICE der dort in den USA war, fährt seitdem wieder in Deutschland, auch heute noch täglich seine 2000 km
Die Kombi Diesellok vor dem Eiszug kommt mir vor wie der Generator im Kofferraums eines nicht ICE - Autos (internal combustion engine)…
Naja, was willste machen, wenn der Großteil der Trassen im mittleren Westen bis heute nicht elektrifiziert sind?
video was shoot on nokia 2110?
Sad that they drove 20,000 miles around America and didn’t actually officially launch ICE into service. Instead used TGV style trains. Weird.
A capitalism system works by bribe, who bribes more get the contract
Ironically the ICE test train has more cars than the current Acela Express
All these promises and after all it only happened in one area of the US and everyone else was left behind
The “success” of big car/oil/airlines lobby
Deutsche Untertitel wären schon, mein Englisch ist nicht das Beste.
Woran ist es gescheitert in den USA für den Regelbetrieb?
Vereinfacht gesagt an zu geringem Schmiergeld 😐 Man hat dann von Alstom gekauft
Man kann automatische Übersetzung einfach in TH-cam einstellen, über das Zahnrad am unteren Bildschirmrand
Ich glaube das der Intercity Express in den USA nicht im Regelbetrieb kam lag an der Oberleitung sie war für den Zug aus Deutschland zu hoch.
Where did the It all went wrong
It was not taken out of service. The Americans just bought some
That train set went back to Germany and is now 2023 still in operation. Amtrak bought the trains of Alstom (Acela)
this is what they took from us
It's not an Ice train you (insert insult here) It's an I. C. E. an Inter City Express Train......
How do you say GIF, SCUBA or LASER?
@@mrbloodmuffins G. I. F. Scuba as in scuba diving ? Laser as in Laser printer ?
@benmossad2073 correct, they are all acronyms like ICE
@@mrbloodmuffins that would be correct. In the country of invention/building of that train its an I. C. E. It’s got nothing to do with cold or frozen things. No one, absolutely no one in Germany says Ice train, except us (insert insult here) Americans
"here's what you could've had!"
🚄🚃🚃🚃the most beautyful german thi speed train:Der ICE. wunderbahr. greetz:🍐Peer. from the Netherlands.👍👍👍😊
🍨train.Der Begriff Intercityexpress ist sogar Englisch und er sagt es trotzdem falsch
Later there'd been an ICE-D (Diesel powered version) which would be perfect for this shown area. Then it wouldn't need the diesel engines pulling it...
The diesel engines were to pull the train cross country to areas / city pairs where congress identified a potential for (electric) high speed trains. Furthermore Amtrak was actually looking for electrical trains for the north east corridor. A diesel ICE would have made no sense
It looks so weird that the ICE got pulled by Diesel locomotive 🤪
„Pearls for Pigs „
Easy there bud
Why older train better than now?
Highspeed in US. My heart bleeds when i see our ICE creeping along that big country... 30 years ago. Sometimes i think, the "old Europe" isnt here, it´s there. Fly to the moon, but travel by train isnt better than go by a mail coach. This human world is crazy, isnt it?
😅, let's be honest America's High-Speed Rail is kind of a joke compared to the rest of the world
Our Navy isn't though. Tomato "tomahto" if you will.
@@michlo3393 compared to China it is lol they almost double the amount of warships we have
at least we have the Acela
@@railworksamerica you can't be serious right 😆
@@Savethepandabears it goes 150mph that is by definition high-speed rail
I thought the ice train doesn't tilt at 8:18
What “tilts” is the track. In curves the outer rail is up to 150mm higher
@@wkaemena I guess the Amtrak x2000 does this many times
@@wkaemenai just told you the 3751 footage is from there goes a train the magical world of trains and train songs
wkaemenayou want me to help you figure out the clue to footage Santa fe 3751 in 1992, day out with Thomas at Strasburg railroad 1999, and a day out with Thomas at grapevine Texas like in the commercials?
noooo way
Ich kann mir denken das es mit dem ICE aus Deutschland in den USA nicht geklappt hat die Oberleitung war für den Zug aus Deutschland zu hoch deswegen der Stromabnehmer zu hoch am Fahrdraht lag.
man hat einen besonders langen Amerikanischen Stromabnehmer angebaut.
I.C.E 🚫 ice ✅
The 🧊 train
Why calling ICE ice? In Europe we say I-C-E.
So this was 1993.... Nothing real happend after that.....
Besides that, a lot of track should be electrified, because pulling an electric train with diesel locs.... that doesn't feel fast....
It’s not the “ice” train. I C E. Like your FBI.
Or DARPA
Der eis zug
Die werden reichlich Verspätung haben 😂
That didn't aged well...
0:13 Ice Train bruh i can't... No one ever has called a I. C. E. an Ice train.
Imagine someone would call K.F.C. KFUC those would be just random noises.
Im not even German but this triggers me harder that US Americans calling Porsche a Porsch.
Ain't gonna lie. I like the US term "Beemer" tho :)
Wie der immer Ice-Train sagt, anstatt I-C-E. 😂
nah bro really said ice train instead of eye cee e💀💀💀💀
Do you pronounce LASER "Ell Aye Ess Ee Arr"?
that didn't age well
Маячня якась була, напевно щоб гроші вкрасти , електричний потяг в країні де немає контактної мережі майже :)
You did not understand it. There are many useful city pairs in USA for high speed trains. And this train was used to show the public what is a high speed train. It was not for continental 2 days trips. The northeast corridor is electric and used for high speed .
30 years later and there is still no proper high-speed train/line in the US lol. Poor USA.
USA is „rich“ on lobbyists of big car/oil/plane which makes everything useful like high speed trains , impossible
The ICE must have been running at only half the speed here in the US - They have 220V in Germany and here we have only 110V. 😂😜
Thats not how electricity works
It was actually 12 kV instead of 15 kV (but at 25 Hz instead of 16,7 Hz).
Train don't run on household voltage
@@TheEpicAppleEater01 Damm, you just made my model railway cry😢
It was running at half the speed though. This ice train never reached speeds faster than 120 with passengers while it was here 😅
The difference between the USA and Europe Rail. is simple Freight is far more important that passengers in the USA,wheres in Europe. Passengers have prority. Outside the N E USA The track isn't good enough to take high speed. Easier to drive or fly
If the US double tracked the freight lines then they could easily run passenger trains without too much conflict.
@@Mgameing123 But freight and advanced passenger trains have different heavy duty track. Plus,the signalling is different and then you have bridges, tunnels,embankments etc Mind you the best thing about train travel is seeing the countryside roll by,whilst enjoying a coffee Who wants to go at 200mph,not me!
Until the federal highway act the USA had the largest and best passenger railway of the world . massive subventions of highways and airports destroyed everything
@@wkaemena Similar to here in the UK NOW were paying billions to reinstate some of them,and in some cases build new ones. Politicians are so corrupt
@@christopherbentley5216 at least the UK has a very good rail network and excellent trains… only problem are the exorbitant ticket prices when not buying advanced
LOL
mich nervt es echt dass der Name ausgesprochen wird obwohl jeder weiß dass man die Buchstaben einzeln sagt also I.C.E und nicht ice und außerdem macht es sehr viel Sinn ein elektronischen Zug von Dieselloks ziehen zu lassen ganz ehrlich dieser Zug gehört nach Hause nach Deutschland und nicht dort rüber (Anyway thanks for the great video)
Ja es machte viel Sinn diesen Zug mit Diesellok in vielen Städten der USAzu präsentieren. Es gab und gibt wichtige Relationen in den USA welche sich für einen (elektrischen) High Speed Verkehr eignen würden und da das Publikum keine Idee von einem modernen Zug hatte, musst der ICE eben mit Diesel dahin geschleppt werden.
@@wkaemena Man kann ein Pferd zur Tränke führen, aber es nicht zwingen, auch zu trinken. Über die Sinnhaftigkeit, US-Amerikanern einen Hochgeschwindigkeitszug vorzuführen, würde ich mich streiten. Irgendeinen Spruch mit Perlen und Säuen gab es da auch noch...
1:28 250mph lol😂
250 mph - 402 km/h. Der ICE Prototyp hat 409 km/h erreicht. Alles ok !
@@wkaemena zugegeben - der hatte eine andere Getriebeübersetzung und weniger Mittelwagen.
Aber auch der Folgezug ICE-S, der bis heute regelmäßig für Mess- und Abnahmefahrten von (neuen) Strecken eingesetzt wird, kam schon auf 393 KM/h, also nicht weit weg.
Die Technik ist also da, wir können Züge bis 400KM/h/ca. 250mph bauen
Der Reporter sagte nur dass ein ICE Zug 250 mph erreicht hätte. Und da hat er nicht gelogen ….
I think that was fake.
It's not fake, all the footage of ICE train in North East Corridor did happen for real.
@@automation7295 Ok, I mean they could do the same thing like Germany does.
🤡
@@special5513 But US are too late, they rather focus on demolishing old buildings and even historic building to make room for a new highway.
@@ELcinegatto87 I've sever seen that German ICE in an Amtrak logo bro. 🤣
Ohne Elektrifizierung macht das doch gar keinen Sinn
Washington Boston ist elektrifiziert
Nicht nur das, in den USA haben Güterzüge Vorrang. Das ist auch so schon für die AMTRAK ein Problem! Bei den interkontinentalen Zügen müssen die Personenzüge oft eine halbe Stunde oder Stunde warten bis der nä. Zug durch ist.