ICE Train 20,000 miles North America Tour - Amtrak 1993

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    The ICE Train - A Renaissance on Rails takes you on a rail trip through time. The InterCityExpress, a high speed passenger train which has attracted numerous European travelers back to the rails, made its U.S. debut in 1993 as part of Amtrak's high speed train trials and demonstrations. Built by Siemens and AEG, the ICE Train begins its tour in Pittsburgh, PA - the very heart of America's railroad industry.
    Over the next 20,000 miles and 25 cities, the ICE Train dazzles train enthusiasts and spectators alike. Like its thousands of visitors and passengers, you will marvel at the sleek, contemporary design of the train, both inside and out. The ICE Train's historic visit to the U.S. for a tour of duty in Amtrak's Metroliner Service offers a glimpse of what rail travel soon may be like in the U.S.
    "Die ICE Train North America Tour war eine sechsmonatige Präsentations- und Erprobungsfahrt eines deutschen ICE-Hochgeschwindigkeitszuges mit den Triebköpfen 401 084-9und 401 584-8 durch Nordamerika im Jahr 1993.
    Der Hauptzweck der von Siemens und AEG organisierten Tour lag in der Präsentation der ICE-Technik im Vorfeld der für 1994 geplanten Neubeschaffung von 26 Hochgeschwindigkeitszügen durch die US-amerikanische Eisenbahngesellschaft Amtrak. Die neuen Hochgeschwindigkeitszüge sollten die Metroliner-Flotte der Amtrak ersetzen und auf der Strecke Washington-New York-Boston eingesetzt werden. In weiteren Korridoren war ein Einsatz geplant.
    Neben einer transkontinentalen Reise in 25 Großstädte der USA verkehrte der Zug im Oktober und Dezember 1993 auf dem Nord-Ost-Korridor im Liniendienst." Video by Siemens AG

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  • @natuerlicherjonathan
    @natuerlicherjonathan ปีที่แล้ว +225

    The "🍦" Train :D

    • @sonnenscheinspottingdeutsc5934
      @sonnenscheinspottingdeutsc5934 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      İntercity-Express not Eis

    • @natuerlicherjonathan
      @natuerlicherjonathan ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@sonnenscheinspottingdeutsc5934 ich weis, deswegen hab ich das ja geschrieben :D weil er das immermal im video sagt

    • @gravelpit6459
      @gravelpit6459 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🧊 train ! Americans cold ice ,why in Europe cold ai cee eee!

    • @natuerlicherjonathan
      @natuerlicherjonathan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Gravelpit is this a question? It's because the letters are spoken in German, not in English xd

    • @marvindujardin463
      @marvindujardin463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because all other trains freeze over in comparison

  • @jonikasemi
    @jonikasemi ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Every time he says ice I die a little bit inside

    • @dudemoritztech6167
      @dudemoritztech6167 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      come to Germany we have five different variations of the ICE you can ride for as little as 12€ haha

    • @gentuxable
      @gentuxable ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially since it is known for air conditioning problems.

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You guys pronounce it "I, See, E" right?

    • @smowl2679
      @smowl2679 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@michlo3393 Ee-tse-eh, even.

    • @real.jeremy.clarkson
      @real.jeremy.clarkson ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@michlo3393 "I, SEE,E" would be the correct english pronounciation. In Germany its more like "e-tseh-eh" :)

  • @megalodon5185
    @megalodon5185 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    and yet almost half a century later, the US is yet to see true high-speed rail

    • @Der.Preusse
      @Der.Preusse ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Pretty deppressing tbh

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That is capitalism and the wrong fear of “socialism” The now already achieved 100% car dependency will not end well …😡

    • @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle
      @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena Exactly. USA, the Country where any kind of Worker's Rights are immidieatly labeled "Communism".

    • @h.celine9303
      @h.celine9303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will never have high speed trains.

    • @Kanadabalsam
      @Kanadabalsam ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Please don’t ever call 1993 “almost half a century” again, you made me feel ancient 😖

  • @michaelburson3519
    @michaelburson3519 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    30 years later. the 401 still drives in germany, and i am proud to operate it.

  • @ErykRozniata
    @ErykRozniata ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Ey stellt euch mal so vor, ihr macht in USA Urlaub und dann kommt da einfach ein ICE 😂.

    • @Pingu1302
      @Pingu1302 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Schade, dass es damals nicht geklappt hat…

    • @doncolor3473
      @doncolor3473 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Vor allem mit den beiden Dieselloks davor 😉

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +55

      So war das . Ich bin extra hingeflogen um von Washington nach New York damit zu fahren 1993

    • @waaagh8310
      @waaagh8310 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Niemand kann ihm entkommen👹👹👹

    • @timothyblake5532
      @timothyblake5532 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Er wäre eh zu spät 😂

  • @rorymacve
    @rorymacve ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Superb video, always very surreal seeing the ICE train passing in front of the Twin Towers!
    While the ICE does look very much at home on the Northeast Corridor, I think the X2000, given the fact that there was limited scope to upgrade the infrastructure, would have been the better choice due to its tilting mechanism.

    • @Narthanael
      @Narthanael ปีที่แล้ว +13

      looks like a scene from a 90s adaption of man in the high Castle lol

    • @jaronsahyoun6808
      @jaronsahyoun6808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Narthanael 8iî

    • @FriendlyNamelessGuy
      @FriendlyNamelessGuy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They did offer a tilting ICE as well for the serial production, in cooperation with FIAT.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The tilting ICE was not developed yet in 1993 ICE-T came 1999 . However Sweden provided a tilting train for test runs in 1993 the X2000

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well this worked out well didn't it......
      30 years on and there's been no further development. Absolutely pathetic. It doesn't portray America in a good light at all.

  • @Ganiscol
    @Ganiscol ปีที่แล้ว +142

    It's modern, fast, efficient and performs flawlessly!
    'Murica: No Diesel, no thanks.

    • @fahrbierde
      @fahrbierde ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There is in fact a Diesel-Version of ICE :)

    • @hohu2146
      @hohu2146 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@fahrbierdeit’s been retired a while ago

    • @fahrbierde
      @fahrbierde ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hohu2146 didn't they sell it to another country?

    • @Deverkehr
      @Deverkehr ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@fahrbierde nope, there is only one ICE TD left as "Advanced Train Lab"

    • @dschoene57
      @dschoene57 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fahrbierde No, they were offered to the Danish railway, but they declined. They've all been retired now as the operation cost made them unviable and they were all due for a major overhaul. Last one was taken out of service in 2017. Only the testlab is left.

  • @saschab.5154
    @saschab.5154 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This looks like a report from a parallel universe!

  • @TrinityCourtStudios
    @TrinityCourtStudios ปีที่แล้ว +44

    That final shot of the ICE heading South from NYP with the twin towers in the background really is something special. The end annotations for watching the next video kinda interrupt it, though!

  • @TheJan1101
    @TheJan1101 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Never knew this before. Really interesting.
    Sadly, nothing changed in the US.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      As long as trains are considered as “socialism” nothing will change. Only big oil big car, big street, big airplane = big money will reign until the big wake-up call when the “last” drop of oil is wasted and transformed in smoke and noise-- but then it will be too late.

  • @peacemountain07
    @peacemountain07 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    lustig finde ich den elend langen Pantografen wg. der extrem hoch montierten Oberleitungen in den USA (doppelstöckige Güterwagen)

  • @standom2390
    @standom2390 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    One of the best trains ever. Still can be seeing in Germany.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      59 of these train sets are still running at 280 km/h every day

    • @dschoene57
      @dschoene57 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@wkaemena That's an ICE1 though, which have become rarer these days. I think ony a handful are still running. The majority of rolling stock are ICE2, ICE3 and ICE4s now. They are the back bone of DB's long distance network.

    • @ABCDEF-hd1xt
      @ABCDEF-hd1xt ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@dschoene57 that's not right. I live in Munich (Germany) and these ICE1 are still in service in high numbers, i see round about 4 every day. 60 were built- 59 are still running, one crashed in Eschede with over 100 deaths...

    • @dschoene57
      @dschoene57 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ABCDEF-hd1xt They have become rare in the sense that now all of the remaining sets are stationed in Hamburg. Nowhere else and there's only a handful of lines left they are still operating. Hamburg-Altona to Munich is one of those few remaining lines, which is why you see them much more often in Munich than in most other parts of the network.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dschoene57 much more than only a hand full. They made now shorter compositions

  • @JustSumChillAlien
    @JustSumChillAlien ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seeing that last scene with the Twin Towers was like seeing into an alternate reality. Sad 😔

  • @120M
    @120M ปีที่แล้ว +24

    North-east corridor should be rebuilt to 250 kmph in first place. It is a shame that eastern Megalopolis with such population and traffic on the highways doesn't have fast railway running in 30 minutes frequency: once Acela, next regional.

  • @grambo4436
    @grambo4436 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can only just imagine in an alternate universe and timeline where the Federal Highway Act of 1956 wasn't signed into law. Instead had actual motorways that wasn't federally funded but to more local and regional. Without cutting throughb cities and urban places let alone bypassing them; Quality infastructure, innovation in transit, energy, mobility etc. etc.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The federal highway act destroyed the USA, lead to a now 100% car dependency,

    • @h.celine9303
      @h.celine9303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One can dream, right? :D

  • @thomasbarnett9376
    @thomasbarnett9376 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Material from The ICE Train North American Tour '93 was used in Train Songs (1995) & Hard Hat Harry's Real Life Trains for Kids (1995)

  • @sihocolus
    @sihocolus ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Repost Comment since my original had few errors in it, sorry:
    For Germans it's always Crazy to see their Trains Operating in other Countries, and the further away they operates the cooler it gets. The ICE 1 shown here wasn't the Last Train that Operated in the US: the ALP-45 and ALP-46 who operates as Passenger Locos are also German Made Trains that runs in Germany as "DB BR 101", which mostly Operates as Locomotive for the InterCity, or IC of the First generation, which - except of the Loco itself, looks like the ICE. the ALP-45 is more like a Exotic variant that we Germans never had, since the ALP-45 has only One Cab, and the other side is like a Direct Connection to the Passenger Coaches. We only have the 2 Sided Cab's variant.
    In other Countries where I discovered German Made Trains:
    North Korea Subway: D-Class and Gi-Class Subway Trains, both types are former BVG Subway Trains from Berlin back in 1990s which still operates in NK, the Gi-Class in NK operates as Rural Suburban Passenger Train with often attached Freight Cars to it. The Gi-Class in Berlin is also (Propably) still operating in Berlin, Atleast 2022 I saw one last time - Greece also had for a short time a Gi-Class train operating in Athen as Metro.
    The Siemens Velaro, a High Speed Train, for Germany Known as ICE 3, also operates in China, Spain and Russia. The other Velaro version, known as ICE 3 Neo in GER, operates as Eurostar and Turkish Highspeed Train. The ICE TD once Operated once in Denmark, but today except one Train it's completely out of service. In South Korea, the Locomotive Class 8100 and Class 8200 are The same as the German DB BR 152, and in Kumamouto, Japan, there operates a Tram as Type 9700. It's design is Based of the GT6N-ZR, a Berlin Variant of the GTxN Tram series that mostly Runs in Germany.
    There are many More Trains and Locos that operates in far away Countries, like in few US cities there are Diesel Powered Trams, in Germany those same Trains operates as Shuttle Express actually Operating in Rural Areas (if not DB) or as Disel Regio Train for non Electrified areas (if DB).
    In Canada there were former out of Service DB Trains like the TALENT 1 which were sold to the O-Line as Shuttle Express Train, those Trains still had their Original Color and even Original interior seat-design from DB.
    In many Eastern Europe Countries like Czechoslovakia or even in Lviv, Ukraine, there are some KT4 Trams that came from the BVG, Berlin. Those Trams even Have the Original Yellow Color Aswell the Original Seat designs. These Trams in Berlin however are completely out of Service Today.

    • @dasluder
      @dasluder ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't Canada also partly use PZB for some lines?

    • @railenthusiastabhishek1527
      @railenthusiastabhishek1527 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The LHB coaches in Indian Railways were also imported from Germany as they were built in the Salzgitter plant of LHB, which was later taken over by Alstom. And Siemens Mobility last year bagged the largest contract for 1000 freight electric locomotives.

  • @Tamwyn107
    @Tamwyn107 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Es ist witzig wie fast alle erstmal auf englisch kommentiert und danach die Unterhaltung auf deutsch weitergeführt wird.
    Irgendwo auf TH-cam gibt es eine lange Doku über die Zuggarnituren, die die USA getestet haben und wie es danach weiter ging.

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The train still runs (and is very nice) in Germany today. I can only imagine how exciting and futuristic it must have seemed to people in the US in 1993!
    It was also a reliable and proven design, passengers liked it, so what went wrong? I'm guessing the decision not to introduce ICE was a purely political one?
    In fact it seems in 30 years the rail technology of the US has barely evolved at all. Best country in the world 😒

    • @davieee1168
      @davieee1168 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know what it’s serial number is? I want to find it in the online train databases.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ICE-Hochgeschwindigkeitszuges mit den Triebköpfen 401 084-9 und 401 584-8 durch Nordamerika im Jahr 1993.

  • @ELcinegatto87
    @ELcinegatto87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice archival promo. Also much appreciated for posterity properly transferring to digital this analog shot NTSC videotape in its full framerate. Most people botch this and you lose the smoothness of tape shot material by deinterlacing at the stored framerate which is only half the video fields.

    • @marcusdamberger
      @marcusdamberger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention, keeping it's original 4:3 frame instead of stretched to fill 16:9 so everyone looks short and fat.. Along with up converting to 720p or better, to get around YT's awful 480p lower bit rate compression.

  • @saschab.5154
    @saschab.5154 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So, what went wrong? The car lobby?

  • @michaelmeiers9769
    @michaelmeiers9769 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice vid. Even the chinese have ICE3 (and also a TransRapid) !

  • @herzschlagerhoht5637
    @herzschlagerhoht5637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks a lot for this historical video document!

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    schon schön zu hören dass das die beste technik ist. :)

  • @marcelreichlin951
    @marcelreichlin951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For English speaking people. You have to pronounce the letters ICE. The name does not mean frozen water. It means Intercity Express.

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you pronounce GIF?

  • @RailfanB737
    @RailfanB737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i wish this still existed.

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People keep asking why we dont hae this yet. 1. The oil and auto industry industry 2. Heavy subsidies for the oil and auto industry 3. Heay lobbyist spending by the oil and auto industry. Spit out repeat. The sick regressive cycle

  • @DJJohnCaulfield
    @DJJohnCaulfield ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wirklich sehr interessantes Video

  • @sohailanjum2887
    @sohailanjum2887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite train...i.c.e. sooo beautyful so cool .frome pakistan

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost like PR shalimar express

  • @andreschachel5863
    @andreschachel5863 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There is nothing changed in the US. Only unelectrified tracks.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Washington-Boston is fully electrified and “high speed” up to 135 mph

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wkaemena *150 mph

  • @ncard00
    @ncard00 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    And then the train has too be pulled by multiple diesel locomotives, cause there is almost no electrification outside the NEC… US infrastructure sucks.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was a presentation of that train in several parts of the USA where suitable (electrified) corridors for High speed rail were proposed. So don’t complain of the diesel pulling cross country

  • @VeggieRanger
    @VeggieRanger ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funfact! Die erste reguläre Fahrt von Washington DC nach New York City endete mit 35 Minuten Verspätung...

  • @ArnoldSebr
    @ArnoldSebr ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is not the "ice" train ist an I.C.E like C.I.A or F.B.I you cannot speak it as word it is a shortcut of "Inter City Express"

  • @TomRuthemann
    @TomRuthemann ปีที่แล้ว +16

    30 years later ... nothing at all happend. Go figure!

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Big oil / car / aviation lobbying against it

    • @TransitAndTeslas
      @TransitAndTeslas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All slower than this except aviation, but slower because of the airport

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not entirely true, the US does run 150 mph electrified service on the NEC. We just don't have the will power to electrify the 150,000 or so miles of track and upgrade the infrastructure to accomodate high speeds because America's railroads are fractured into a half dozen independent operations that prefer to do their own thing.

  • @Flo-M
    @Flo-M ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful

  • @moover123
    @moover123 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lol at how they call it ice train xD It's I-C-E, not ice

  • @zwrhnsg
    @zwrhnsg ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Welcher 401 war das nochmal? Muss mich hier in Deutschland mal auf die Suche nach ihm machen… fahren tut er ja meine ich noch

    • @tpm2056
      @tpm2056 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      084/584

    • @zwrhnsg
      @zwrhnsg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tpm2056 danke

    • @thomyg425
      @thomyg425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Der fährt noch…erst kürzlich in München gesehen

  • @videofreakcologne
    @videofreakcologne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a German, personally i like the "Nickname" 🍦ICE Train, suits the white colour, but the meaning is I.C.E. it´s short for "Intercity Express", here in Germany the long distance Trains are I.C. (Intercity).

  • @MirzaAizaz
    @MirzaAizaz ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Historic ♥️👍

    • @Bingo-B7
      @Bingo-B7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea But the DB have This Train still in Service 🥹

  • @JamesBrown-zu8iv
    @JamesBrown-zu8iv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not go back with this one?
    No one seems return as history.😔

  • @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle
    @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:13 Oh, for fuck's sake, it's NOT pronounced "🍨 Train", but rather "I.C.E. Train". Simple to grasp... that's what I thought at least.

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker ปีที่แล้ว

      We know, but this isn’t europe

    • @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle
      @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goclunker What does that have to do with how to say it correctly?

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle this is what you focus your energy on?

  • @sunny_muffins
    @sunny_muffins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting.

  • @mentally.not.stable393
    @mentally.not.stable393 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ich finds ja auch super wie die amis einfach keine Oberleitungen haben & sich dann einfach gedacht haben “ach, scheiss drauf, spannen wir eine diesel vorne dran, wird eh keiner merken” lmfaoooo

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Das war eine Vorstellungsreise und das ging nun mal nur mit Dieselvorspann quer durchs Land

  • @Shinkansen0
    @Shinkansen0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amtral ice 🥶🥶

  • @EMDSD14R
    @EMDSD14R ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the name of the documentary this is from? I like it!🔥🔥🔥

  • @essmene
    @essmene ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened to the 26 high speed train order? Did Siemens win? Did Amtrak order any trains?

    • @EliasSchmid00
      @EliasSchmid00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They ordered the Acela

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alstom TGV variant

  • @Macintoshiba
    @Macintoshiba ปีที่แล้ว +1

    too bad this never happened. we are on our 4th (5th?) generation of high speed trains here in germany.

  • @alpzepta
    @alpzepta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Test ICE and X2000 train in America is better than In-service train that America have currently

  • @SmaugAltair
    @SmaugAltair ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, the ICE is a good thing . I hope the USA will get more electric lines.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Trains are considered in USA part of communism / socialism … what only counts are weapons, war, oil, cars, highway.“good“ is only all politics which leads to 100 % car dependency

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena The US is kind of slowly going into trains. Just look at CHSR.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mgameing123 The USA HAD the largest and best railway network and trains of the world … until the federal highway act which destroyed the railways and destroyed country and cities by horrendous freeways

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena Yeah ik. But the US will need to revert the mistakes of the past.

  • @MausTheGerman
    @MausTheGerman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sehr geehrte Fahrgäste, in wenigen Minuten erreichen wir Chicago Hauptbahnhof. Hat was.

  • @Trainviking
    @Trainviking ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting, also the X2000 that went to the US. Somehow I guess the Eurotrain never made it to the US though, only Korea when I'm right.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Alstom Wirth a TGV variant made it .

  • @AndrewTheRadarMan
    @AndrewTheRadarMan ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sad we went with a botched TGV knockoff over the ICE 1.

    • @h.celine9303
      @h.celine9303 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get what you get paid to get. ;D

  • @bernardmueller5676
    @bernardmueller5676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did Amtrak reject this GREAT train? Seems absurd when comparing this to Acela.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alstom "bribed" more.... ;-)

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alstom won the bid.

  • @torikicklighter1191
    @torikicklighter1191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So why didn’t the US proceed with this beautiful train?

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Alstom bribed more…

    • @tobyk.4911
      @tobyk.4911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@wkaemena but apparently Amtrak didn't get TGV, either?

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tobyk.4911 the Acela is a TGV variant

  • @angriboi
    @angriboi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the days, where the Deutsche Bahn was actually punctual. I miss these times, even if I wasn't even born yet back then.

  • @Grafschaft_Hoya
    @Grafschaft_Hoya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wieviele fahren da heute in USA?

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Das war eine Vorstellung des Zuges in den USA. Amtrak hat sich dann später entschieden TGV ähnliche Züge zu beschaffen. Dieser ICE der dort in den USA war, fährt seitdem wieder in Deutschland, auch heute noch täglich seine 2000 km

  • @christianvolk5182
    @christianvolk5182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Die Kombi Diesellok vor dem Eiszug kommt mir vor wie der Generator im Kofferraums eines nicht ICE - Autos (internal combustion engine)…

    • @Exodon2020
      @Exodon2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naja, was willste machen, wenn der Großteil der Trassen im mittleren Westen bis heute nicht elektrifiziert sind?

  • @lalasonycierny1945
    @lalasonycierny1945 ปีที่แล้ว

    video was shoot on nokia 2110?

  • @GalenlevyPhoto
    @GalenlevyPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad that they drove 20,000 miles around America and didn’t actually officially launch ICE into service. Instead used TGV style trains. Weird.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A capitalism system works by bribe, who bribes more get the contract

  • @yichengfeng
    @yichengfeng ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironically the ICE test train has more cars than the current Acela Express

  • @noxiplays
    @noxiplays ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All these promises and after all it only happened in one area of the US and everyone else was left behind

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The “success” of big car/oil/airlines lobby

  • @FreiherrvonKlein
    @FreiherrvonKlein ปีที่แล้ว

    Deutsche Untertitel wären schon, mein Englisch ist nicht das Beste.
    Woran ist es gescheitert in den USA für den Regelbetrieb?

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Vereinfacht gesagt an zu geringem Schmiergeld 😐 Man hat dann von Alstom gekauft

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Man kann automatische Übersetzung einfach in TH-cam einstellen, über das Zahnrad am unteren Bildschirmrand

    • @MarkusReferentGamerTraveller
      @MarkusReferentGamerTraveller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ich glaube das der Intercity Express in den USA nicht im Regelbetrieb kam lag an der Oberleitung sie war für den Zug aus Deutschland zu hoch.

  • @Grafschafter22
    @Grafschafter22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did the It all went wrong

  • @zugwelt.franken
    @zugwelt.franken ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was not taken out of service. The Americans just bought some

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That train set went back to Germany and is now 2023 still in operation. Amtrak bought the trains of Alstom (Acela)

  • @greynolds17
    @greynolds17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is what they took from us

  • @benmossad2073
    @benmossad2073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not an Ice train you (insert insult here) It's an I. C. E. an Inter City Express Train......

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you say GIF, SCUBA or LASER?

    • @benmossad2073
      @benmossad2073 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrbloodmuffins G. I. F. Scuba as in scuba diving ? Laser as in Laser printer ?

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @benmossad2073 correct, they are all acronyms like ICE

    • @benmossad2073
      @benmossad2073 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrbloodmuffins that would be correct. In the country of invention/building of that train its an I. C. E. It’s got nothing to do with cold or frozen things. No one, absolutely no one in Germany says Ice train, except us (insert insult here) Americans

  • @andrewsaxon4314
    @andrewsaxon4314 ปีที่แล้ว

    "here's what you could've had!"

  • @MrPeerum
    @MrPeerum ปีที่แล้ว +5

    🚄🚃🚃🚃the most beautyful german thi speed train:Der ICE. wunderbahr. greetz:🍐Peer. from the Netherlands.👍👍👍😊

  • @karimgougui5686
    @karimgougui5686 ปีที่แล้ว

    🍨train.Der Begriff Intercityexpress ist sogar Englisch und er sagt es trotzdem falsch

  • @Brauiz90
    @Brauiz90 ปีที่แล้ว

    Later there'd been an ICE-D (Diesel powered version) which would be perfect for this shown area. Then it wouldn't need the diesel engines pulling it...

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      The diesel engines were to pull the train cross country to areas / city pairs where congress identified a potential for (electric) high speed trains. Furthermore Amtrak was actually looking for electrical trains for the north east corridor. A diesel ICE would have made no sense

  • @MausTheGerman
    @MausTheGerman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks so weird that the ICE got pulled by Diesel locomotive 🤪

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    „Pearls for Pigs „

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy there bud

  • @benandolga
    @benandolga ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why older train better than now?

  • @chrisclaim5112
    @chrisclaim5112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Highspeed in US. My heart bleeds when i see our ICE creeping along that big country... 30 years ago. Sometimes i think, the "old Europe" isnt here, it´s there. Fly to the moon, but travel by train isnt better than go by a mail coach. This human world is crazy, isnt it?

  • @Savethepandabears
    @Savethepandabears ปีที่แล้ว +6

    😅, let's be honest America's High-Speed Rail is kind of a joke compared to the rest of the world

    • @michlo3393
      @michlo3393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our Navy isn't though. Tomato "tomahto" if you will.

    • @Savethepandabears
      @Savethepandabears ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michlo3393 compared to China it is lol they almost double the amount of warships we have

    • @railworksamerica
      @railworksamerica ปีที่แล้ว

      at least we have the Acela

    • @Savethepandabears
      @Savethepandabears ปีที่แล้ว

      @@railworksamerica you can't be serious right 😆

    • @railworksamerica
      @railworksamerica ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Savethepandabears it goes 150mph that is by definition high-speed rail

  • @kevinsweeney2810
    @kevinsweeney2810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the ice train doesn't tilt at 8:18

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What “tilts” is the track. In curves the outer rail is up to 150mm higher

    • @kevinsweeney2810
      @kevinsweeney2810 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena I guess the Amtrak x2000 does this many times

    • @kevinsweeney2810
      @kevinsweeney2810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wkaemenai just told you the 3751 footage is from there goes a train the magical world of trains and train songs

    • @kevinsweeney2810
      @kevinsweeney2810 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​wkaemenayou want me to help you figure out the clue to footage Santa fe 3751 in 1992, day out with Thomas at Strasburg railroad 1999, and a day out with Thomas at grapevine Texas like in the commercials?

  • @scp5007de
    @scp5007de ปีที่แล้ว

    noooo way

  • @MarkusReferentGamerTraveller
    @MarkusReferentGamerTraveller 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ich kann mir denken das es mit dem ICE aus Deutschland in den USA nicht geklappt hat die Oberleitung war für den Zug aus Deutschland zu hoch deswegen der Stromabnehmer zu hoch am Fahrdraht lag.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      man hat einen besonders langen Amerikanischen Stromabnehmer angebaut.

  • @PeloDubGer
    @PeloDubGer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I.C.E 🚫 ice ✅

  • @Aviationfan1257
    @Aviationfan1257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 🧊 train

  • @JaapGinder
    @JaapGinder ปีที่แล้ว

    Why calling ICE ice? In Europe we say I-C-E.
    So this was 1993.... Nothing real happend after that.....
    Besides that, a lot of track should be electrified, because pulling an electric train with diesel locs.... that doesn't feel fast....

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s not the “ice” train. I C E. Like your FBI.

  • @Philipphosel
    @Philipphosel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Der eis zug

  • @dominikashehata5291
    @dominikashehata5291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Die werden reichlich Verspätung haben 😂

  • @stirbjoernwesterhever6223
    @stirbjoernwesterhever6223 ปีที่แล้ว

    That didn't aged well...

  • @quigonjinn3567
    @quigonjinn3567 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:13 Ice Train bruh i can't... No one ever has called a I. C. E. an Ice train.
    Imagine someone would call K.F.C. KFUC those would be just random noises.
    Im not even German but this triggers me harder that US Americans calling Porsche a Porsch.
    Ain't gonna lie. I like the US term "Beemer" tho :)

  • @youtubemensch
    @youtubemensch ปีที่แล้ว

    Wie der immer Ice-Train sagt, anstatt I-C-E. 😂

  • @tDASH97
    @tDASH97 ปีที่แล้ว

    nah bro really said ice train instead of eye cee e💀💀💀💀

    • @mrbloodmuffins
      @mrbloodmuffins 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you pronounce LASER "Ell Aye Ess Ee Arr"?

  • @Bene31
    @Bene31 ปีที่แล้ว

    that didn't age well

  • @CaptainUlitka
    @CaptainUlitka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Маячня якась була, напевно щоб гроші вкрасти , електричний потяг в країні де немає контактної мережі майже :)

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You did not understand it. There are many useful city pairs in USA for high speed trains. And this train was used to show the public what is a high speed train. It was not for continental 2 days trips. The northeast corridor is electric and used for high speed .

  • @blauwgeel2743
    @blauwgeel2743 ปีที่แล้ว

    30 years later and there is still no proper high-speed train/line in the US lol. Poor USA.

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      USA is „rich“ on lobbyists of big car/oil/plane which makes everything useful like high speed trains , impossible

  • @fahrbierde
    @fahrbierde ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ICE must have been running at only half the speed here in the US - They have 220V in Germany and here we have only 110V. 😂😜

    • @jonikasemi
      @jonikasemi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats not how electricity works

    • @franciscogodoy9158
      @franciscogodoy9158 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was actually 12 kV instead of 15 kV (but at 25 Hz instead of 16,7 Hz).

    • @TheEpicAppleEater01
      @TheEpicAppleEater01 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Train don't run on household voltage

    • @SebastianWittich
      @SebastianWittich ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheEpicAppleEater01 Damm, you just made my model railway cry😢

    • @Savethepandabears
      @Savethepandabears ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was running at half the speed though. This ice train never reached speeds faster than 120 with passengers while it was here 😅

  • @christopherbentley5216
    @christopherbentley5216 ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference between the USA and Europe Rail. is simple Freight is far more important that passengers in the USA,wheres in Europe. Passengers have prority. Outside the N E USA The track isn't good enough to take high speed. Easier to drive or fly

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the US double tracked the freight lines then they could easily run passenger trains without too much conflict.

    • @christopherbentley5216
      @christopherbentley5216 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mgameing123 But freight and advanced passenger trains have different heavy duty track. Plus,the signalling is different and then you have bridges, tunnels,embankments etc Mind you the best thing about train travel is seeing the countryside roll by,whilst enjoying a coffee Who wants to go at 200mph,not me!

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Until the federal highway act the USA had the largest and best passenger railway of the world . massive subventions of highways and airports destroyed everything

    • @christopherbentley5216
      @christopherbentley5216 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena Similar to here in the UK NOW were paying billions to reinstate some of them,and in some cases build new ones. Politicians are so corrupt

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherbentley5216 at least the UK has a very good rail network and excellent trains… only problem are the exorbitant ticket prices when not buying advanced

  • @ObamacareMishra
    @ObamacareMishra ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL

  • @lolalex2203
    @lolalex2203 ปีที่แล้ว

    mich nervt es echt dass der Name ausgesprochen wird obwohl jeder weiß dass man die Buchstaben einzeln sagt also I.C.E und nicht ice und außerdem macht es sehr viel Sinn ein elektronischen Zug von Dieselloks ziehen zu lassen ganz ehrlich dieser Zug gehört nach Hause nach Deutschland und nicht dort rüber (Anyway thanks for the great video)

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ja es machte viel Sinn diesen Zug mit Diesellok in vielen Städten der USAzu präsentieren. Es gab und gibt wichtige Relationen in den USA welche sich für einen (elektrischen) High Speed Verkehr eignen würden und da das Publikum keine Idee von einem modernen Zug hatte, musst der ICE eben mit Diesel dahin geschleppt werden.

    • @h.celine9303
      @h.celine9303 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wkaemena Man kann ein Pferd zur Tränke führen, aber es nicht zwingen, auch zu trinken. Über die Sinnhaftigkeit, US-Amerikanern einen Hochgeschwindigkeitszug vorzuführen, würde ich mich streiten. Irgendeinen Spruch mit Perlen und Säuen gab es da auch noch...

  • @maximilianschutze4565
    @maximilianschutze4565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:28 250mph lol😂

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      250 mph - 402 km/h. Der ICE Prototyp hat 409 km/h erreicht. Alles ok !

    • @kennichdendenn
      @kennichdendenn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​​@@wkaemena zugegeben - der hatte eine andere Getriebeübersetzung und weniger Mittelwagen.
      Aber auch der Folgezug ICE-S, der bis heute regelmäßig für Mess- und Abnahmefahrten von (neuen) Strecken eingesetzt wird, kam schon auf 393 KM/h, also nicht weit weg.
      Die Technik ist also da, wir können Züge bis 400KM/h/ca. 250mph bauen

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Der Reporter sagte nur dass ein ICE Zug 250 mph erreicht hätte. Und da hat er nicht gelogen ….

  • @special5513
    @special5513 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that was fake.

    • @automation7295
      @automation7295 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not fake, all the footage of ICE train in North East Corridor did happen for real.

    • @special5513
      @special5513 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@automation7295 Ok, I mean they could do the same thing like Germany does.

    • @ELcinegatto87
      @ELcinegatto87 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤡

    • @automation7295
      @automation7295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@special5513 But US are too late, they rather focus on demolishing old buildings and even historic building to make room for a new highway.

    • @special5513
      @special5513 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ELcinegatto87 I've sever seen that German ICE in an Amtrak logo bro. 🤣

  • @paxigaming
    @paxigaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ohne Elektrifizierung macht das doch gar keinen Sinn

    • @wkaemena
      @wkaemena  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Washington Boston ist elektrifiziert

    • @amurtigress_mobile365
      @amurtigress_mobile365 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicht nur das, in den USA haben Güterzüge Vorrang. Das ist auch so schon für die AMTRAK ein Problem! Bei den interkontinentalen Zügen müssen die Personenzüge oft eine halbe Stunde oder Stunde warten bis der nä. Zug durch ist.