To Mongolia and back on two CRF250L
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- A 5 month trip to Mongolia from Israel, starting from Greece and passing through Turkey, the Caucasus (Georgia, Armenia), Central Asia (the stans: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan) and Russia. 30000 km, on two CRF250Ls.
A google map of the route: tinyurl.com/yb...
FAQ and other info:
visas, border crossings, customs, bureaucracy?
- depends on your passport - www.caravanistan.com has the best info for that. for most passports - you'll have to arrange visas for some countries.
bike mods for CRF250L?
- larger fuel tank, sock fuel filter, reusable air filter, custom luggage rack for soft luggage and an external fuel canister (rotopax), spring preload mode (involves welding two spots on the shock), protection mods (hangguards, bashplates, radiator)
how was the CRF250L?
- pros: super reliable, friendly, economic on fuel and tires, suitable for short riders.
- cons: weak, esp. at altitude.
garages and spare parts resources on the way?
- tires - Denis (buy@motorezina.ru) - can ship to most cities in Russia
- garage and tires - Patrik from MuzToo in Osh Kyrgizstan (www.muztoo.ch/en/)
- tires?
Any 50/50 tire would be ok. You take what's available when you need it. We used Continental tkc80 90-90-21 for the fronts, and various different ones for the rears. Mitas e7 are good value and last long.
luggage?
- soft luggage by nelson-rigg + straps
- some photos of the custom luggage rack: photos.app.goo...
gps and navigation?
- garmin 60csx (maps: garmin.openstre...) + phones with offline maps for backup (oruxmaps + lonely planet guides) + plastic-paper maps by Reise Know-How (Turkey, Caucasus, Mongolia, Central Asia)
route preparation?
- talking to other travelers and asking them about their route, reading about the countries in lonely planet and internet
- check our route map (link above)
scary water crossings?
- in Mongolia should be prepared for more difficult ones, otherwise mostly easy (or optional)
trains with bikes in Russia?
- can be arranged at the stations, cost around 100$ per bike from Irkutsk to Yekaterinburg. shipped with luggage on them. bikes go by one train, you go by another and meet them a couple of days after your arrival. everything was fine for us YMMV
costs?
- around 20-30$ per night for motels/guesthouses, can camp anywhere, food is cheap and tasty where it can be found (bring enough of your own for Mongolia from Russia), fuel is cheap (except Turkey), ATMs can be found everywhere except in Uzbekistan (where you have to bring enough cash).
how much fuel range?
- we had 300KM(12L) in tank + 200KM(8L) in external fuel canisters, the extra fuel is mostly needed when going from Kazakhstan to Uzbekistan in the west (500km stretch without stations), and is good to have in Pamir. Probably possible to be ok with 300-350K range and a little hussle (buying fuel from locals/drivers at those two-three problematic spots / carrying in bottles..). All other places have enough stations.
favorite places on the way?
- Mongolia, Pamir (Tadjikistan), Georgia, Turkey (eastern + Cappadocia), Song-Kul (Kyrgistan), Altai (Russia)
safety?
- road safety: Russia has actually the safest drivers on the route (but lots of single lane roads with heavy truck traffic), Turkey has great infrastructure so is pretty safe, Georgian drivers are crazy and love overtaking just for sport (and roads are narrow). In Mongolia not much roads so no problems 🙂 Kyrgyz drivers are the most dangerous by far from all drivers I have experienced anywhere (and I have ridden in many places) - some are just trying to scare or bully you, don't know why.
- people: we didn't have any problems camping, but we always made efforts to camp in unseen places. locals were super friendly in Turkey, Geogria and Uzbekistan, in the Stans things vary, in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan we met some jerks, and there locals don't give you much space, but it might be just bad luck. Mongols don't care about you and you can camp within sight of their gers with no worries, Russia is generally very civilized so people are much more law abiding and customs are generally western. Drunks in any country should be avoided as quickly and as friendly as possible.
- officials: corrupt police are to be expected in Stans and Russia (don't worry, if you don't pay and act respectful, within half an hour tops you'll be on your way). Corrupt border officials are to be expected in the Stans - know exactly what to do and expect at each border crossing (caravanistan.com & forums).
-insurance: we only had proper road insurance for Europe (mandatory), which we got by mail from Bulgaria, and regular travel insurance (non bike related) for the rest of it.
-camera: Canon SX700
Bravo. Yassu! If you come to Turkey again I live in Eskisehir and have a CRF 250 Rally. We can ride together to Midas city and the surroundings. Friendly greetings to you. Keep up with the good travelling 👍😀
A W E S O M E, this video is TOO SHORT!!!
I want more!
thanks! me too :)
great bike for this kind of adventure! love to see some small bikes on the roads, so much more fun!
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@Merrick Marcel No problem :D
Perfect bike for the trip. None of this 300+ kilo BMW rubbish. Honda much better quality than any BMW.
you are so right, thanks!!!
Don't forget to mention bout the reliability of the Honda. This thing run forever.
The primary reason I use a Honda to travel Asia is the availability of parts and Honda “mechanics”. Every village has a shop and a guy that can work on a Honda. Can’t get that with a KTM, BMW, etc. even Kawasaki, Suzuki, and other common brands can be scarce to get help with. I have a 250 Rally, and I take that thing everywhere. Sure, I would love to be riding a 690 Enduro R or something like that, but it is simply not practical. Plus, I can pick this thing up all day long without pulling my back out, lol.
@@UhYeahWhateverDude not even Yamaha?
Arved Ludwig Depends on where you are. But no brands even come close to the coverage of Honda. In Asia, you will only get Yamaha parts in cities. But Honda dealers are in every small village - and usually more than one.
I wish I had the funds to go on a 5 month bike trip
its called going to work and working your ass off
An amazing epic journey... and we got to go along for the ride ! Now I REALLY want a pair of Honda CRF250L for my wife and I to explore Colorado and Idaho.
Jim Thomas get the 250l rally version!
Note what the authors wrote: "- cons: weak, esp. at altitude." That has also been my experience. Much over 6000' elevation, the CRF250L runs out of breath and becomes a real slug. I'd recommend something with more power.
This deserves way more views. I saw it about 2 years ago and finally got the 250 rally (waiting for delivery). Thank you for the upload.
1 year ago I posted, I have had the rally for the year, it is a great machine, CV19 has put the brakes on a lot small bikes doing big adventures, watching again as this a great video.
Wow guys, this was awesome. Came for the CRF250's but enjoyed every bit of your amazing journey. Inspiring!
Thanks!
I take my hat off to you guys, awesome ride, well documented, i could feel that cold water round my legs! Lifes about living and you took it to the edge, relying on your own skills in some extremely remote places, and all with a smile .... Bravo, your a great encouragement to get out and about ! Beautiful wee movie.Can I be a pest and ask if you could send me a plan of your pannier racks too , its the only thing I can't work out. Such a perfect bike for an adventure trip....with panniers, .... In any case, thank you for sharing your trip, a pleasure to watch.😀
Thanks! I can send you various pics of the racks, and you can make something similar. Message me your email and I'll send them there.
Hi Arthur, thanks for the reply, really appreciate it....... I have put my plans on ice, I don't want to take up any of your time, emailing the plans at the moment. Good luck with any further adventures to you both. Cheers.
Good day, everyone! If you are planning a trip to Mongolia with a motorcycle or have already arrived, we recommend the KTM 2023 Adventure Moto. If you choose us, we will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for free. 🎉
Congrats on your breath taking journey. Small bike which took your so far. No big bikes necessary to have time of your life.
I'm really impressed by your idea of trip, courage and skills, especially for the woman.
People will go out of their way to help both girls and guys. And it's much harder for girls. Go out and meet the world, it's much nicer than it seems.
Amen to that. I'm over the hill, but still hoping to do just tip fracture of what you did. Trully amazing!
Amen referring to Arthur Dgn reply...
What year is your Honda?
thank you for this amazing and beautiful movie.
you inspired me to have a new world tour with 61 yEEEEEEsssssssss !!!!!!!!!!
beautiful bikes and NOBBY 07836: you are right!!!!!! i hate BavarianMudWaste too !!!!!!!
thank you again
thank you
thank you
Спасибо! Теперь я знаю какой Эндуро хочу!!!) Привет с Украины 😉 Молодцы так держать.
Why didn"t u go through Iran :D ? Can anyone guess ...in the comment section ?
Have to agree with Victor, lovely video with professional editing and soundtrack. A pleasure to watch, thanks
Привет, мы с вами знакомились по дороге на Памир)))) я ехал на ТДМе .
HOW MANY FLAT TIRES ?? ANY OTHER MECHANICAL ISSUES ??
why didnt u go with the xr650l
1) The XR was much too old for a such a long trip (it's 1999)
2) It's much better to have two identical bikes when travelling together.
OUTSTANDING !!! well done excellent video even better adventure.
This is the greatest video on TH-cam ı have seen ever
This is great but you need to see more.
Great video. thanks for letting me come along on your trip. I really enjoyed the soundtrack which seems perfect for each location you visited. Just another reason to get out there and see the world. Thanks-a big plus during a Covid lock down
thanks!
Какие ахуительно монументальные кадры .Завидую..И девченка просто огонь )
Nice trip! Congratulations. I like this bike too. U have instagram or facebook? Actually i have a Honda NX 350Cc, it is an old brazilian model bike. This trails bike are perfect for this rides.
Thanks!
Bravi !!!Bravi !!! Bravi !!! ed ancora BRAVI !!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
Amazing thanks for sharing. Did you beef up rear sub frames? That luggage looked quite heavy
Thanks!
Didn't touch the subframes, but the custom luggage racks (some details in the description) were great in transferring the load down (to the passenger footpegs mount points), and they had good rigidity reinforcement to reduce any flexing of the subframe.
Incredible journey, thanks for documenting and sharing with us. I bought a CRF250L last year and your video has given me the inspiration to start planning my own journey...thank you!!
Thanks! Super happy to hear that :)
hi guys nice video you maked, my wish to do olso one question what video editing program are you using?
Thanks. Just the windows movie maker.
Молодцы! Спасибо за фильм.Посмотрел и Купил CRF250L, еду летом на Памир!
Братиш,а где новую црф-ку можно купить в России?
@@ВладимирКурилов-х7у Новые только crf250rally. Я нашел crf250l 2013г. с пробегом 1300км ( видео есть на канале). Жаль на Памир в этом году не получится
@@KostinAndreyVladimirovich Спасибо за ответ)!Бу видел...но там наверное ещё и пробег скручен((!!!А црф ралли немного тяжелее,пластика больше((...Тоже мечтаю объехать на лёгком эндурике Казахстан, Узбекистан,Таджикистан))))!!!Тоже на следующий год планирую....
@@ВладимирКурилов-х7у Я хотел в Японии брать, с аукциона, но подвернулся в Череповце. И состояние ,как новый. Поворотник был расплавлен возле глушителя ( вытащили флейту) и царапка на пластике. Успел подготовить к поездке, а тут коровавирус. Надеюсь в следующем году получится.
@@KostinAndreyVladimirovichНу чтобы всё сложилось))!!!Здоровья и удачи!!!
Epic. Thank you very much for sharing part of this incredible journey. Good luck on next trip 🖖
this could be an add for honda
This is the way to go. I have both, a Yamaha SuperTenere 1200 and a Honda CRF250 Rally, and my choice to go on trips like this would be the Honda, no doubt whatsoever. Small trails are much lighter, manageable, less tiring and easy to fix on the side of the road (or at any small village mechanic) - not to mention lift off the ground - . If I travel with my wife two up (and luggage) I will go on the SuperTenere (a kind of "tractor" also 100% reliable and capable of caring all) but if I go alone on the bike and mainly off-road I will take the 250 absolutely no doubt about it. The big trails are fantastic to travel long distances two up and on 90%gravel and 10% the "big fire roads" kind of "off-road", in the other hand the small trails are a "do it all" and can cross a continent off road (and on road also) one up. This is what I´v learned in my experiences travelling in Africa. Love both the big trail (for her purpose) and my "real" trail but there's no pretending anybody can do this kind of trip on a monstrous 300 Kgs big trial, no matter what the brand. Gs, KTM etc (non withstanding the fact that they are very competente machines and that some owners still use them properly) became more off a "aventure - style" "show-off " bike. Real adventure are like this, in "real" adventure bikes, for the experience, and not for the sticker or the "show-off"! Congrats, loved the video!
Epic trip. Well done.
Nice video bro. I like your pictures and the music is good.
thanks!
Good clip thanks
Superb photography and I love the use of local song clips to set out the country visited Were your bikes new at the start ans per preprepped for the journey.Although you did not say i assume they stood the test of time.How did the saddles perforn as you seemed to be standing up a lot in the clips.
I myself would have loved some commentry of the places visited and things seen,But as I stated the countries was magnificent as where your portrayal in pictures. I would love to know what cameras and lens you used for your journey
Thank you for taking us along.
Thanks! Answers to a lot of your questions are in the info below the video. The bikes weren't new, they were bought used with about 6/12k on each.
This is an amazing trip. Does anyone knows about the music in the video? This really inspires me.
Have a look at Vas and Dead Can Dance.
Страно откуда отпуска столько у него
Awesome video 😍😍
Good video.
The trip was so great! What kind of camera do you use to zoom?
Canon SX700
Wow super 😀👍
beautiful.... how much fuel do you carry ?
Thanks! Please see video description for the answer to this and a lot of other questions.
well done guys! soo inspiring that could not help but kept smiling all the way to the end of the video!! thumbs up, a big one
ребят, вы отмороженные! Но счастливые! )) И я вами восхищаюсь!
What a great adventure and big balls :) I truly envy you this, and hopfeully at some point of my life i will be able to afford it on my own.
and some 40+ men will tell you how you need that pile of junk 1250GS for your adventures or you can't make it!
@Bubz of Steel TBH never seen an older guy on a light bike, never seen in my life. Either on GSs or choppers/cruisers or gigantic tourers.
@Bubz of Steel I'm not American, never been to America. In fact, here you can rarely see an overweight person. BTW I just recalled seeing a young guy on a 1250GSA the other day. That was the only time. Honestly, GS is known as middle-aged man's machine. Not my fault man, it's just I only saw middle aged men on gs.
beautiful
Are you still in Greece? What an amazing experience! Thank you for sharing this with us. Very inspiring.
nice trip
Sure sells the world motorbike trip concept.
Nice work.
And intelligent choice of bikes.
Awesome
Hi, just a question, did u arrange for a carnet du passage? I read in the internet that u need this for out of EU travelling, has something to do with avoiding import tax? Or did u just go?
The carnet may be needed in other countries I think, maybe in Africa? Definitely not needed for this route. Best to look for country specific information.
@@ArthurDgn Thank you fot this useful information
AMAZING, Thank you.
Thank you too!
I just bought one due to your recommendations. Thankyou.
Really nice job. I'm going to sell my Africa Twin and get a CRF250L Rally.....well....thinking so anyway! Lol
@Bubz of Steel Nope...kept the AT for highway and forestry road touring. But did pickup an XT250 2015 for rides that get a bit more technical. Have been having a blast on it. Check out my Death Valley ride from March 2020, got back to Canada just as the border was closing. Epic trip - way more fun to thrash a small bike than to ride tentative on a big one!
@Bubz of Steel I'm older and vertically challenged. The XT250 has the lowest seat height in the class but still 11 in clearance. The suspension is crap for speed, but good enough for low speed trails. The design was based on a trials bike - the lock to lock is crazy! I can turn it around if the track gets too gnarly with little difficulty. Only 19 HP but can carry 100kmh (60mph) all day long. Air cooled and fuel injected - disc front and rear - nice and simple. Long history - been around simce the 80's. And mainly... Super cheap. Got mine with low mileage used for less than a good mountain bike. Good luck!
Muy bien
Perfect
Fantastic thanks for sharing
Thanks!
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Thank you what a beautiful journey! Who made you door luggage of motorcycles? Find them have in the businesses?
Not sure what you mean, but if you're asking about luggage racks than it was a custom build from a local shop in Israel (where we lived). There are more details in the video description and pictures of the racks.
Mighty JAPANESE Machine Tough n Strong n Smart with light weight.
Very Immpressive AVENTURE Trip of No mans land on Earth Central Asia and Northern Asia the wildest land on Earth.
Respect from PAKISTAN.
Счастья Вам ребята!!!Вы лучшие!!!
What an amazing adventure, i hope that one day i will be able to go on such an epic journey :)
Also, i'm buying an adventure bike next week. Most likely gonna be a CRF 250 Rally :D
Cool, I have been in Mongolia 4 times with my bike. I know most of what you have driven ! Respekt !
This is an amazing trip!!
¡nice! the CRF is ideal for adventure, no cows weighing 250 kilos....
Amazing journey, thanks for sharing, safe travels 🏍️🏍️
Congratulations for both of you! Greetings from Brazil!
Amazing !!!
Great 👍🏼 video,
excellent bike / Honda engines are great 👍🏼!
I took my CRF250L in 2015, Your video is fantastic.
One of the most engaging videos I have seen. Lovely ride. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome video! Would it be possible to share an estimate of the costs for the entire trip?
Costs would differ from person to person. It depends on too many things. You can camp and cook, or you can stay in hotels. You can stay for a long time in places or short time, you can do lots of riding, or just go through the countries super quick. You can do expensive tourist attractions or not. You can pay bribes when stopped by police or not. Your bike may be fuel hungry and require expensive repairs and parts, or it just oil and petrol. So if you're trying to estimate the cost for yourself try to count all those things and add them up. At the bare minimum it's just petrol (depends on length of your route, your bike, and price for petrol), and buying food for cooking yourself (which can be very cheap depending on taste).
@@ArthurDgn Ah yes, there are a lot of things to consider. Thank you for your answer!
Very nice!!! ... from Greece!
Stunning...absolutely stunning & admirable!
Great pictures..!
thanks!
Thank you. Great work!i
Beautiful scenery, beautiful Lady, Great footage. I could go on.
Have safe journeys.
So far One of the best video i wacth ...!
Good day, everyone! If you are planning a trip to Mongolia with a motorcycle or have already arrived, we recommend the KTM 2023 Adventure Moto. If you choose us, we will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for free. The daily rental fee for a motorcycle is $60 USD.
Thank you very much to avoid to post your talking faces 90% of the video like almost all youtubers travelers do.
Beautiful video but far too short.
admit it, you really enjoy riding through waters, don't you? :D
Great trip and video!
It looks great on video, but I will take the bridge every time if there is one :)
WOW!!! FANTASTIC
Glad you like it!
Я в 2015 прокатился от Магадана до Кейптауна за 4 месяца на таком-же. Классная машина...
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World is a beautiful place
Sooner them than me, these bikes are hard work. I think the RE Himalayan is a much better and certainly an easier bike for such a trip. The CRF250 has an absence of torque with it the most import trait for this sort of journey. Nice vid though, thanks.
ΜΠΡΑΒΟ ! ! !
excellent ..you showed the bike manufacturers you dont need to spent £20,000 on a bike and kit to have an adventure and fun...been contemplating buying one and you have made my mind, thanks.
Thank you for this inspiring video. Great tour and great scenes. This is my dream route also. I wish I can take this route one day with my crf. Take care friends. Hi from Turkey.
I can see many people from the world is here and I just want to ask you all, one question. if anyone of you cold take a new Suzuki Jimny instead of any off-road bike in same price range if you had that possibility. Which one could be a better option? Personally I like off-road travelling so much special with bike, but in the same time i am so scared too.Travelling with car feels much safer then bikes in many aspects. What you think? Pls write something about what you think. Regards
That looks brill and your girl can ride you both can tbh brill your on the same bikes and Honda,s Can't get better than that.keep riding do anther trip soon 👍don't have kids and don't get a dog or your never go again 👍🇬🇧
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Very impressive compilation of your tag-team journey. Looks like the Hondas handled everything your trip could throw at them - snow, mud, water crossings, sand and pot holes - with aplomb. Bet Charlie and Ewen wished they had those rigs on LWR. Thanks for sharing the epic trip with such wonderful editing. Cheers!
thanks!
fantastic adventure. True adventures and exellent video.
a man if after watching this vieo and you are not going on a adventure trip then its not mend for you.
FANTASTIC
Amazing trip!!! Congratulations
too much music. We would love to hear the natural background music you get more views as well.
what a beautiful vibrant videos and pics. Thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed your trip and I think I've found my new Adventure bike....cheers!
wow!
the best video in TH-cam, I love it thank you for you impression
Bravo!
thanks!