"CAPE TOWN" by Young Veins.. This one doesn't reference sun or moon.. But, it is absolute proof of Ryden; . Look at these lyrics, it doesn't get any clearer: "I saw you, I met you I loved you, I left you in Cape Town" What the hell else could this possibly be referencing??
Amber Cary the song is actually about Ryan meeting a girl in Cape Town and thinking she was the one but she actually already had a husband in prison etc.
let's not forget the "blue" one ryan: i know i broke your heart, mine is broken too, now if we're even, why are we both blue? brendon: being blue is better than being over it
I️s it sad that I️ find joy in finding proof of two grown men being in a homosexual relationship despite the fact they haven’t been seen together for years?
Ryan s secretly a angel who descended from heaven and came back to earth so that he could give happiness and tears of joy to the earth. then he found a beautiful man (brendon) and eventually fell in love with him. some people found out about their relationship, and got all crazy over him. so to stop the craziness Ryan and Brendon tried to prove them wrong, so they made Ryan leave the band, and Ryan cursed the humans who knew about their relationship go to hell. Yet Ryan and Brendon still date up to this day.
DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOO D SUGGESTION DANKIEL LESTERGOOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER SGOOD UFGGSTJION DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGEGETSTIONS DANIL LESTER GOO DUSGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOO DUGGGSUEIONY
Taylor Productions Well, he began writing the song around Vices and Virtues (aka after Ryan left), so it would make more sense that the song has something to do with Ryan.
Alright listen I always watch these expecting something silly to make me laugh BUT THIS WAS ACTUAL GOOD EVIDENCE AND TOTALLY MAKES SENSE AND GAVE ME EMOTIONS
I know this is old but: Ryan tweeted that he's "Not against it" and for example in Where I Belong he sings "I know I should have never left" (I swear to god every time I hear this line I scream inside my head "YES THAT'S RIGHT RYAN NOW PLEASE TURN BACK TIME THANK YOU BYE"). So I think Ryan wants to reunite the band. I think Brendon doesn't want to because his problem was that he couldn't sing what he liked, he couldn't write everything himself, because Ryan did, while Ryan was buried by Brendon because Brendon is more confident and the lead singer so Ryan was kinda in the background writing all the songs but getting much less attention. But maybe they can at least do some songs featuring each other, because right now it feels like they're not talking at all and that makes me even more sad. I mean it could be right that it really was for creative reasons, but imagine it like this: You and your best friend go to the same school but then your friend decides to switch schools. You still want to be friends but your friendship kinda fades away because you're not seeing each other every day anymore, and I think that's similar to Brendon's and Ryan's situation.
I always thought the song The good the bad and the dirty from the death of a bachelor album was about Ryan. Especially the part that goes "you've been gone so long I forgot what you feel like but I'm not going to talk about that right now I'm gonna keep getting underneath you I'm gonna keep getting underneath you and all our friends want us to fall in love." The reason I think this is because when he was writing this song he was and still is happily married to Sarah. So he is obviously talking about someone from a long time ago (Ryan) another reason is when he sings the line "and all our friends want us to fall in love" now again since he is happily married why would his friends want him to fall in love with someone who isn't his wife, so my guess is in this song his "friends" are the panic at the disco fandom who is obsessed with shipping Ryan and Brendon and want them to fall in love.
Well in Ryan's song loneliness moonlight, it talks about the moon being in love with the sun but the sun loved someone else, I'm guessing he lived brendon but brendon loved sarah
I actually fully believe ryden happened. But they got in a fight and Ryan left Bden. They counldnt handle seeing each other any more so Ryan quit or Brendon kicked him out. I assume ryan left since Brendon misses the sun so much on hiss "solo" album (Golden Days: I found a pile of polaroids in the crates of a record shop= I found our pictures in our old music // Golden Days= The days the sun was still shining for me ) since he couldnt talk about it so much when spencer was still in the band. now he's more blunt about missing the sun. He tried showing he doesn't care anymore during the v&v era and tried getting over it, He then met sarah and fell in love but he always says doab is more about his past!!! He's over it but the moon will never forget about his sun. *mic drop*
Holy shit! When u mentioned Golden Days, DOAB lyrics flashed in my head. "I'm walking the long road, watching the SKY fall. Brendon says that DOAB refers to beginning a new chapter in life. "Walking the long road"(getting married), "watching the sky fall"(sky=SUN)... More like DOAR, "Death of a Ryden".
Oh shit I think I'm gonna cry too many Ryden memories also, in that part of northern downpour when bren said " God, I'm sorry", listen to it again cause I hear "god, I miss him" and mad as rabbits thing had me BAWLING
YOU GUYS YOU KNOW THE NEW PANIC! SIGN LIKE THE TRIANGLE W THE "!" IN THE CENTER? IT HAS THREE SMALL CIRCLES AT EACH CORNER OF THE TRIANGLE ONE HAS AN EYE AND THE OTHER TWO HAVE THE SUN AND THE MOON OML I JUST NOTICED THAT IM SHOOK IM SHAKING AHHHH HELP AHSHFOWNFBOWMBEDOFHDIC
I'm still doubting though. When they were in a concert, they sang the line "Hey moon don't you go down" Ryan Ross replied "never will" meaning he won't go down. But this is good evidence :P Edit: New evidence!!! Jon tweets "You don't need the sun 'cause you do have the moon"
RadGamer- Could u pls tell me what version of N. Downpour that Ryan says, "never will"? I don't hear it in the Pretty Odd or Live in Chicago recordings.. TY
Subo art Idk anymore 😅. Maybe he is trying to tell Ryan not to leave him in Northern Downpour (Hey moon please forget to fall down) and Jon tweeted "You don't need the sun 'cause you have the moon." . Maybe Jon is saying that he has Ryan with him in the Young Veins era after they left Brendon in Panic!
n saltiness here all I'm saying is that since brendon is the moon. that he doesn't want brendon to leave the band or something welp idk but hats my idea lol
Ryan:yo, I wrote you a song Brendon: yo, but what about the fans? Ryan: yo, I'll change the pronouns Brendon: yo, that's a great idea Ryan and Brendon: *yo*
I always thought that both Ryan and Brendon switched roles as the Sun and Moon, I know it's complicated. Like, I think some songs are about Ryan being the Sun and then being the Moon in some other songs, and same with Brendon.
ALSO GOLDEN DAYS , it makes sense sense he's talking how he remembers it being golden and in the song when the day meet the night they say "it was golden in the sky " !!!! SHOOOK
Rose Avalos and not to mention he once called Ryan "a golden God" in an interview so "it was golden in the sky. Could be implying that Ryan is a golden star, and what star is golden? The sun
"I bet they never even thought about the glitter dancing on their skin//the decades might have washed it out" the glitter might refer to a relationship and how good it was (and how they didn't realize how good it was until it was gone) and the decades might have washed out some of the pain, but it's still there. Golden Days is a Ryden song confirmed
also, the sun and moon thing is basically confirmed because in "I Have Friends In Holy Spaces" he says if the SUN would come out and sing with me and northern downpour comes next and is the first song to really have ryan in it.
Golden Blueeyes me too because Ryan has the song lonely moonlight which makes me think he was the moon and lonely without Brendon. Also Brendon wore yellow eye shadow a lot and Ryan wore blue
my theory( and please correct me if I'm wrong but) what if they were dating and they started showing it to much (Like all the ryden videos on the internet ) and ryan was like hey moon we gotta b more low key about it. for ex all the ryden vids started coming out.. if you see in ryden vids its usually brendon making the moves and ryan loved him he just wanted to keep it quiet... but it started creating all of this ryden stuff and I feel like ryan didn't want to be that open with ryden. but I kinda have a feeling that brendon was ok with it or woul be idk. so they fought about it and either ryan or brendon ended the relationship, and adding the fact that they had creative differences and thingslike that ryan ended up leaving panic. and THEN more ryden proof surfaced when both of them wrote songs about the SUN and the MOON (brendon focusing on sun and ryna focusing on moon bt ya know could just b me) eventually it all died down but they will never forget each other :) mic drop or I'm completely wrong bc I ship it so hard Show less
1. the urge to analyse every p!atd song to see just how much ryden i can find resurfaces 2. YOU PLAYED C'MON AND I LEGIT STARTED CRYING. I SHOULDN'T BE WATCHING THIS AT FIVE A.M. WHEN MY HORMONES ARE ALL MESSED UP. 3. in "stall me" i always thought the lines were "hold on to the moon/the stars a sliver of you" but ok both work ig hAAAAAA RYDEN KILLS ME EVEN MORE THAN PHAN
ok so this may be a little bit out there but I’ve been thinking about it for a long time. So obviously Vices and Virtues has songs about Ryan and songs about Sarah. And a vice is something that is bad or bad for you, whereas virtue is good. So what if Brendon is saying that Ryan is the vice and was bad for him since and Sarah is going to be his virtue and the person that is good for him.
I've been a fan since 2005 and seeing this is sad. I miss the good old days and I wish it was like that again. I love Brendon with all my heart and respect their wishes but it would make me so happy to see Ryan and Brendon collaborate on a song together again.
This was made awhile ago but this made me think of these other songs. The good, the bad and the dirty doesn’t say sun or moon but is definitely a reference to ryden. Impossible year says “there’s no sunshine this impossible year”.
"And all our friends want us to fall in love" Ok. Is this Ryden? hhhHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????Referring to the fans as the friends. I don't care what you think iT'S A SIGN!
I mean also the "I don't need the SUN and the MOON to tell me what to do" quote from Jon could also be an underlining message that Brendon and Ryan are very controlling when it comes to music and now that he is out of the band he can create his own stuff. (This isn't hate on Brendon or Ryan BTW. I was just looking over the lyrics from Sun and Moon this was how I interpreted the lyrics)
I really dont get why he denies it he made a whole song specifically about LGBT+ and still denies it he was obviously in love with ryan and i would never give something like that up
But isn’t Lonely Moonlight talking about MISSING someone he refers to as “Lonely Moonlight”? Why would he be the Moon if he was missing someone he called “Moonlight”? For the Sun line, he also says “another day filled with regret”, which, makes sense if he didn’t want to leave. He’d be saying he was the Sun, going up and down over and over again, day by day and regretting leaving Panic! Idk where you’re getting the implication that he’s the Moon from THAT song
I was watching this in my basement and my mom came down and my mom came down and was like Mom: are you afraid the sun gonna burn your skin? Me: Ryan won't hurt me Mom: what Me: what
I think ryden is real and basically confirmed but people just pretend it isn't for a dramatic effect (?) O.o I mean, we have every piece of evidence that we need as far as music and interviews
AND I THINK BRENDON KNOW THAT WE KNOW SO THE ONLY THING HE CAN DO IS TRY TO IGNORE IT AND PRETEND HE DOESN'T KNOW RYAN WHICH ONLY CONFIRMS IT EVEN MORE HE CANT WIN AGAINST US WE'RE AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE
just imagine: Brendon onstage about to preform a song then he says “this song is dedicated to Ryan Ross” he chokes while saying “Ross” He looks back up, eyes full of tears. He shakily says: “I miss you”
Idk if it means anything but like everywhere you look at the lyrics for 'Stall Me' it says "curse everyone and everything, even the sun" but when you play 'Vices and Virtues' on itunes and you look at the lyrics for 'Stall Me (Demo)' it says "curse everyone and everything, even the sign" Edit: idk Itunes coulda just fucked up tho
I believe Ryden was real at some point even if it was a short time, I mean they where such good friends and now they pretend like each other doesn't exist, like you can't just throw away friends like that 😞
I know this is just for fun but this is seriously the best RYDEN CONFIRMED vid ive ever seen. all of it makes sense and it's just pure genius. Thank you for proving my hopes and dreams existed at one point
This is really good. But in a recording of northern downpour from like 2008 as brendon sings "hey moon dont you go down" you can hear and see ryan say "never will" so that means that ryan is the moon and brendon is the sun.
Oh my gosh oh my gosh. I was just listening to I have friends in holy places and the last thing Brendon sings is of course "all depends on what you qualify as friends". After that, there is a few seconds of silence and then you can hear a kind of distorted "hey moon" being sung a few times by who I am pretty sure is Ryan. As we know from this video Brendon is moon, so maybe this is more of a hint towards the famous 'friend' being Ryan.
It makes it even sadder when you kind of see that the lyrics of northern downpour almost signify that Ryan is leaving, and he's telling brendon to be okay while he's gone. Like the lyrics: The ink is running toward the page It's chasin' off the days Look back at both feet And that winding knee I missed your skin when you were east You clicked your heels and wished for me -don't you see it????????????????????????? Then:- Through playful lips made of yarn That fragile Capricorn Unraveled words like moths upon old scarves I know the world's a broken bone But melt your headaches, call it home There hes saying, "I know you're a fragile one, but you can get through it." I think that's why Brendon always cries. He misses ryan so much, and those lines just tell him that Ryan is still there in spirit, but he wants him there with him, together. Great, im crying even more.
How come in "I Have Friends in Holy Spaces" Brendon says "if the sun would come out and sing with me" and Northern downpour is next on Pretty. Odd which is the first song on the album that Ryan sings in
YEE! At the Disco ok but you're pretty much ignoring all of the evidence that b is the sun and ry is the moon.. i admit, there is some things that could make you think that it's the other way around but there's far more evidence proving my point
Nadine Nassar i commented that over a year ago. i don’t ship ryden anymore, and you shouldn’t either (it’s disrespectful), so feel free to disregard my original comment
Everything panic has ever done links to Ryden if you try hard enough tbh
EXACTLY
hi frerard was real nicotine!!!
+Brendon Urie tru, tru,
Not everything ! 'Sarah smiles'
jennifer perez If you look at it.. Sarah Smiles is kind of about Bren finding Sarah after his heartbreak(RYAN) so yea
yall forgot ryan's other song
"where i belong"
where he sings "if you wanna see the sun, youre gonna have to dig your way out"
trashiest trash of the trashes let's be honest that entire song is about him leaving the band and Brendon
trashiest trash of the trashes and impossible year brendon says "there's no SUNshine this impossible year"
trashiest trash of the trashes lonely moonlight.
"CAPE TOWN" by Young Veins.. This one doesn't reference sun or moon.. But, it is absolute proof of Ryden; . Look at these lyrics, it doesn't get any clearer:
"I saw you, I met you
I loved you, I left you in Cape Town"
What the hell else could this possibly be referencing??
Amber Cary the song is actually about Ryan meeting a girl in Cape Town and thinking she was the one but she actually already had a husband in prison etc.
Jon walker : the biggest ryden shipper of all time
Forksaremagicallimes *WOW I NEVER KNEW THAT KEITH IS SHIPPING RYDEN TOO*
*not wrong*
😂ikr
"Eyes are the size of the moon" perhaps a clever reference to when the eye expands when you see something or someone you love...
James Matthews or the size of beebo's forehead
its about being high af since ur pupils expand like crazy. But maybe its dat too
No I'm pretty sure that one's just about being high af
tHAT IS SO GOOD UHM
let's not forget the "blue" one
ryan: i know i broke your heart, mine is broken too, now if we're even, why are we both blue?
brendon: being blue is better than being over it
LotionBottle Tripod why have more people not talked about this one OHMYGOD
the "being blue is better than being over it" never made sense until now sndofjnskcdj
##SHOTSFIRED
LotionBottle Tripod OH MY GOD AHHH-
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""ryan ross?¿
god said adam and eve, not start a band and leave""
DEAD
Yeah.
Plz come back to Panic! Ryan they need you songwriting skils
J REEE
I'm sobbing what the Hell
J NONONONONONO MY SOUL HAS LEFT THE CHAT
okay but this was actually really good evidence
I want to like this comment, but you have 69 likes
its alright harambe
I KNOW RIGHT??? YAAAAAS DADDY
I️s it sad that I️ find joy in finding proof of two grown men being in a homosexual relationship despite the fact they haven’t been seen together for years?
"the sun and moon are quite frequently mentioned in panic! ... ... ... At the disco"
The fact that Brendon cries when during northern downpour is so cute
Panic!at the Gay God Phandom Yeah, he cried after the song and apologized to the audience about it... The feeeeeels!!!
And so torturing for my eyes.
and now we may never hear northen downpour on the setlist again for the rest of our life. kinda glad and sad at the same time tho
yes and so sad, the amount of times i have cried over that song i cant
*MoUtH pOP* EXcUSE mE I don't mean to be rude but how is someone crying over they're friend or possibly lover cUTE? biTcH whAt.
I was all sad about Ryden and Northern Downpour, and then I hear airhorns and the universal theme and I laughed so hard I fell over
Emo Band trash same
why is Ryan's voice so beautiful eXPLAIN
I'm afraid no body has the answers, it is a greater force humans cannot understand
Sorry I'm Fangirl nobody can
Like how Brendon is so stunning
Ryan s secretly a angel who descended from heaven and came back to earth so that he could give happiness and tears of joy to the earth. then he found a beautiful man (brendon) and eventually fell in love with him. some people found out about their relationship, and got all crazy over him. so to stop the craziness Ryan and Brendon tried to prove them wrong, so they made Ryan leave the band, and Ryan cursed the humans who knew about their relationship go to hell. Yet Ryan and Brendon still date up to this day.
also Sarah is a good friend of Brendon's, so she tried to help him prove that Ryden wasn't real (even though it was) by faking a marriage.
Sorry I'm Fangirl he was actually created by the government which explains why he's so perfect
hm what about impossible year? 'there's no SUNshine, this impossible year'
Oh GOD THE LIST IS ENDLESS
DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOO D SUGGESTION DANKIEL LESTERGOOOD SUGGESTION DANIEL LESTER SGOOD UFGGSTJION DANIEL LESTER GOOD SUGEGETSTIONS DANIL LESTER GOO DUSGGESTION DANIEL LESTER GOO DUGGGSUEIONY
It was another impossible year for Brendon since it was another year Ryan wasn't there with him or there for him.
Taylor Productions Well, he began writing the song around Vices and Virtues (aka after Ryan left), so it would make more sense that the song has something to do with Ryan.
Dan Lester oh shiznuts
Alright listen I always watch these expecting something silly to make me laugh BUT THIS WAS ACTUAL GOOD EVIDENCE AND TOTALLY MAKES SENSE AND GAVE ME EMOTIONS
Same my friend, same.
THEY NORTHERN DOWNPOURED ME
Someone send this to brendon now
Wake me up when Ryan joins panic again pls
Jillian farmer Brendon has said in interviews he doesn't think Ryan Jon or Spencer would be coming back to the band
Panic!at the Gay God Phandom shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
HAY MY NAME IS JILLIAN TOO
breadon urieh same
I know this is old but:
Ryan tweeted that he's "Not against it" and for example in Where I Belong he sings "I know I should have never left" (I swear to god every time I hear this line I scream inside my head "YES THAT'S RIGHT RYAN NOW PLEASE TURN BACK TIME THANK YOU BYE"). So I think Ryan wants to reunite the band.
I think Brendon doesn't want to because his problem was that he couldn't sing what he liked, he couldn't write everything himself, because Ryan did, while Ryan was buried by Brendon because Brendon is more confident and the lead singer so Ryan was kinda in the background writing all the songs but getting much less attention. But maybe they can at least do some songs featuring each other, because right now it feels like they're not talking at all and that makes me even more sad.
I mean it could be right that it really was for creative reasons, but imagine it like this: You and your best friend go to the same school but then your friend decides to switch schools. You still want to be friends but your friendship kinda fades away because you're not seeing each other every day anymore, and I think that's similar to Brendon's and Ryan's situation.
I always thought the song The good the bad and the dirty from the death of a bachelor album was about Ryan. Especially the part that goes "you've been gone so long I forgot what you feel like but I'm not going to talk about that right now I'm gonna keep getting underneath you I'm gonna keep getting underneath you and all our friends want us to fall in love." The reason I think this is because when he was writing this song he was and still is happily married to Sarah. So he is obviously talking about someone from a long time ago (Ryan) another reason is when he sings the line "and all our friends want us to fall in love" now again since he is happily married why would his friends want him to fall in love with someone who isn't his wife, so my guess is in this song his "friends" are the panic at the disco fandom who is obsessed with shipping Ryan and Brendon and want them to fall in love.
Nicole Alexis that is good ass evidence
Panic!at the Gay God Phandom Thank you :)
i was thinking about this too i thought i was the only one
Right? What's up with "you've been gone so long I forgot what you feel like"? He sure as hell ain't talking 'bout his wife; she's not gone...
"im gonna keep getting underneath you" its comfirmed Ryan tops
*RYDEN IS REAL AND THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS IT*
we all know it
**sobs**
Ryan fell in grass I want to lay in that grass
Ryan fell in grass NOT ANYMORE. mabye it WAS.
I always thought that Ryan was the moon and Brendon was the sun.
THIS VIDEO SAVED MY LIFE
Now I'm going to cry in my bed for hours
Dina Cruz SAME
ME TOO
Cheese Whiz 7u7 same
Same
Well in Ryan's song loneliness moonlight, it talks about the moon being in love with the sun but the sun loved someone else, I'm guessing he lived brendon but brendon loved sarah
Hey, what about "Where I Belong" by Ryan Ross when it says "I know I should have never left." UM NO RYAN YOU SHOULDNT HAVE
ok lets not forget about the ENTIRE SONG RYAN WROTE ABOUT "GETTING LOST IN CAPE TOWN"
I actually fully believe ryden happened. But they got in a fight and Ryan left Bden. They counldnt handle seeing each other any more so Ryan quit or Brendon kicked him out. I assume ryan left since Brendon misses the sun so much on hiss "solo" album (Golden Days: I found a pile of polaroids in the crates of a record shop= I found our pictures in our old music // Golden Days= The days the sun was still shining for me ) since he couldnt talk about it so much when spencer was still in the band. now he's more blunt about missing the sun. He tried showing he doesn't care anymore during the v&v era and tried getting over it, He then met sarah and fell in love but he always says doab is more about his past!!! He's over it but the moon will never forget about his sun. *mic drop*
Holy shit! When u mentioned Golden Days, DOAB lyrics flashed in my head. "I'm walking the long road, watching the SKY fall. Brendon says that DOAB refers to beginning a new chapter in life. "Walking the long road"(getting married), "watching the sky fall"(sky=SUN)... More like DOAR, "Death of a Ryden".
Harlequin Girl HOLY SHIT
theshortgirldiaries OH MY GOD
theshortgirldiaries Heck yes
theshortgirldiaries I'm crying this evidence is so good.
Oh shit I think I'm gonna cry too many Ryden memories
also, in that part of northern downpour when bren said " God, I'm sorry", listen to it again cause I hear "god, I miss him"
and mad as rabbits thing had me BAWLING
Enya How he definitely said “god, I miss him”
it actually sounds like 'god I miss him' woah
Holy fuck...
I can’t even hear him say anything wha
i was once a doubting bitch but youve convinced me now im a believer
glad to hear it cheese whizzer
so twenty one pilots fans are the clique and ryden fans are cheese whizzers?
OH HELL YEAH IM A CHESE WHIZZER
Hardcore cheese whizzer right here lmao
anathema. sAme
like it don't even see this as a joke, i believe in ryden to 100% and this video is even more proof than ever
Best Lyrics Same xD its quite sad tbh
Same
jishwasoreos Best Lyrics Me too it makes me cry so hard tho
jishwasoreos same
jishwasoreos Same
I feel like the role of sun and moon alternate at times.
yes sun daddy rain on me with that sun semen
salty ryden I was waiting for someone to acknowledge that
Lol same
help me
same
Same
YOU GUYS YOU KNOW THE NEW PANIC! SIGN LIKE THE TRIANGLE W THE "!" IN THE CENTER? IT HAS THREE SMALL CIRCLES AT EACH CORNER OF THE TRIANGLE ONE HAS AN EYE AND THE OTHER TWO HAVE THE SUN AND THE MOON OML I JUST NOTICED THAT IM SHOOK IM SHAKING AHHHH HELP AHSHFOWNFBOWMBEDOFHDIC
Cynthia Stgo OMFG IM SHOOK
IM SHOOKETH AND I HAVE A WALL FLAG WITH THAT ON IT OMFG IM KEEPING IT UP ON MY WALL FOREVER
Omg I always thought it was from that la devotee video thing like "sun sets on the evil eye"
ember is awkward haha me too😂I try to find ryden proof whenever/wherever I can
Holy crap I’m shook !
I'm still doubting though. When they were in a concert, they sang the line "Hey moon don't you go down" Ryan Ross replied "never will" meaning he won't go down.
But this is good evidence :P
Edit: New evidence!!!
Jon tweets "You don't need the sun 'cause you do have the moon"
RadGamer- Could u pls tell me what version of N. Downpour that Ryan says, "never will"? I don't hear it in the Pretty Odd or Live in Chicago recordings.. TY
Harlequin Girl It's actually in Live in Chicago. Just search it up.
Subo art Idk anymore 😅. Maybe he is trying to tell Ryan not to leave him in Northern Downpour (Hey moon please forget to fall down) and Jon tweeted "You don't need the sun 'cause you have the moon." . Maybe Jon is saying that he has Ryan with him in the Young Veins era after they left Brendon in Panic!
more proof Brendon said "I love you" to Ryan while singing Northern Downpour
n saltiness here all I'm saying is that since brendon is the moon. that he doesn't want brendon to leave the band or something welp idk but hats my idea lol
Ryan:yo, I wrote you a song
Brendon: yo, but what about the fans?
Ryan: yo, I'll change the pronouns
Brendon: yo, that's a great idea
Ryan and Brendon: *yo*
*yo*
*yo*
*yo*
so yo is like their okay (fault of our stars, anyone)
YO!
I always thought that both Ryan and Brendon switched roles as the Sun and Moon, I know it's complicated.
Like, I think some songs are about Ryan being the Sun and then being the Moon in some other songs, and same with Brendon.
odeto ryanross Yeah like when they switch who tops and who bottoms *insert lenny face*
Jane Mavis I HATE YOU FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I LAUGHED MORE THAN I SHOULD HAVE OMG
"just for fun" nO THIS ISNT JUST FOR FUN THIS IS A LEGITIMATELY BELIEVABLE THEORY
This evidence is so good!! I will now cry in my bed for several hours and keep nothern downpour on replay good bye my friends.
Zara AtTheTwentyOneFallOutRomance my life tho
ALSO GOLDEN DAYS , it makes sense sense he's talking how he remembers it being golden and in the song when the day meet the night they say "it was golden in the sky " !!!! SHOOOK
Rose Avalos and not to mention he once called Ryan "a golden God" in an interview so "it was golden in the sky. Could be implying that Ryan is a golden star, and what star is golden? The sun
Golden Gays
"I bet they never even thought about the glitter dancing on their skin//the decades might have washed it out"
the glitter might refer to a relationship and how good it was (and how they didn't realize how good it was until it was gone)
and the decades might have washed out some of the pain, but it's still there.
Golden Days is a Ryden song confirmed
FORGET GOLDEN DAYS!!!! CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSE OF MEMORIES?!?!!?!?
In the song Hurricane, Brendon sings “I confess, I confess to the rumor of us”...
Crank that frank needs to see this
McFlurryFace Someone needs to tweet him this video
i think he's talked about it in one of his videos.
He talked about the theory, but hasn't gone into detail. Luckily, he dm'd me, so hopefully, since I sent him the link, he might see it.
he'll cry
also, the sun and moon thing is basically confirmed because in "I Have Friends In Holy Spaces" he says if the SUN would come out and sing with me
and northern downpour comes next and is the first song to really have ryan in it.
No offense but I always thought Ryan was Moon and Brendon was Sun.
ME TOO
Same but when I looked into it, the lyrics make much more sense the other way around
Golden Blueeyes me too because Ryan has the song lonely moonlight which makes me think he was the moon and lonely without Brendon. Also Brendon wore yellow eye shadow a lot and Ryan wore blue
bee atthedisco yeah I agree with you 100%
Golden Blueeyes Same
wow I've been a fan since 2015 and tried to avoid Ryden bc I would ship it. I BELIEVE in Ryden now. EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE.
Wow I'm s h o o k
brb gonna have a northern downpour myself (also that illuminati music is always lit)
That means Jon is one of us...
Have you seen his twitter? He definitely is.
SHOOK
FronkOreoAndTheWhisks yesss
your forehead's the size of the moon
I'm sh00ken to the core
The Onceler SAMEEE
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
The Onceler no RYDEN CONFIRMED!!
im actually crying
im watching ryden videos at 11pm what am i doing
fairly local dreamer Not as bad as 3:30 in the morning... I need legitimate help at this point 😂
crankthatryden Welp, 4:31 AM here, just rewatching old videos just for nostalgia, I'm falling in this rabbit hole pls someone send help
2:15am 5years after this video was posted 💀
my theory( and please correct me if I'm wrong but) what if they were dating and they started showing it to much (Like all the ryden videos on the internet ) and ryan was like hey moon we gotta b more low key about it. for ex all the ryden vids started coming out.. if you see in ryden vids its usually brendon making the moves and ryan loved him he just wanted to keep it quiet... but it started creating all of this ryden stuff and I feel like ryan didn't want to be that open with ryden. but I kinda have a feeling that brendon was ok with it or woul be idk. so they fought about it and either ryan or brendon ended the relationship, and adding the fact that they had creative differences and thingslike that ryan ended up leaving panic. and THEN more ryden proof surfaced when both of them wrote songs about the SUN and the MOON (brendon focusing on sun and ryna focusing on moon bt ya know could just b me) eventually it all died down but they will never forget each other :) mic drop or I'm completely wrong bc I ship it so hard
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pansexual bean i agREE
doctor: u have 10 minutes to live
Victoryeeah cries the entire time
l o n e l y m o o n l i g h t
n o p l s n o
fuck this hurts
(btw i loved the video!)
1. the urge to analyse every p!atd song to see just how much ryden i can find resurfaces
2. YOU PLAYED C'MON AND I LEGIT STARTED CRYING. I SHOULDN'T BE WATCHING THIS AT FIVE A.M. WHEN MY HORMONES ARE ALL MESSED UP.
3. in "stall me" i always thought the lines were "hold on to the moon/the stars a sliver of you" but ok both work ig
hAAAAAA RYDEN KILLS ME EVEN MORE THAN PHAN
So did I but I looked the lyrics up for everything to make sure I got none wrong :)
HOLY SHIT THIS SOUNDS REAL
also i think ryden was real...but its not anymore and will never be, but i think they miss eachother as friends
ok so this may be a little bit out there but I’ve been thinking about it for a long time. So obviously Vices and Virtues has songs about Ryan and songs about Sarah. And a vice is something that is bad or bad for you, whereas virtue is good. So what if Brendon is saying that Ryan is the vice and was bad for him since and Sarah is going to be his virtue and the person that is good for him.
I've been a fan since 2005 and seeing this is sad. I miss the good old days and I wish it was like that again. I love Brendon with all my heart and respect their wishes but it would make me so happy to see Ryan and Brendon collaborate on a song together again.
Play this at my funeral.
Just to confuse the shit out if people.
Only my best friends will understand it and hopefully they will SHIP THEM
MychemicalPhandoms!atTheStranger Crybaby! PLAY THIS AT MY FUCKING WEDDING (yeah like that'll happen I'll be alone forever.)
Panic!at the Gay God Phandom y is that so ME?
This was made awhile ago but this made me think of these other songs.
The good, the bad and the dirty doesn’t say sun or moon but is definitely a reference to ryden. Impossible year says “there’s no sunshine this impossible year”.
RYDEN IS REAL
AND THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS IT
Marika CHix CRANKTHATFRANK IS EVERYWHERE
TELL US THE TRUTH ABOUT NORTHERN DOWNPOUR
AND THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS IT
"And all our friends want us to fall in love" Ok. Is this Ryden? hhhHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????Referring to the fans as the friends. I don't care what you think iT'S A SIGN!
I mean also the "I don't need the SUN and the MOON to tell me what to do" quote from Jon could also be an underlining message that Brendon and Ryan are very controlling when it comes to music and now that he is out of the band he can create his own stuff. (This isn't hate on Brendon or Ryan BTW. I was just looking over the lyrics from Sun and Moon this was how I interpreted the lyrics)
Thats what I thought too. It was a subtle message of FUCK YOU BOTH I DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY MUSIC.
I really dont get why he denies it he made a whole song specifically about LGBT+ and still denies it he was obviously in love with ryan and i would never give something like that up
YOU NORTHERN DOWNPOURED ME I SHOULDVE EXPECTED IT BUT IT STILL GOT TO ME
Ryan didn't write lonely moonlight for y'all to call him sun...smh
OMG this is me too lol. Ryan is definitely the moon
FOREAL THO
Fantastic Me *Brendon was Ryan's Sunshine and now I'm fucking sobbing*
EXACTLY
But isn’t Lonely Moonlight talking about MISSING someone he refers to as “Lonely Moonlight”? Why would he be the Moon if he was missing someone he called “Moonlight”? For the Sun line, he also says “another day filled with regret”, which, makes sense if he didn’t want to leave. He’d be saying he was the Sun, going up and down over and over again, day by day and regretting leaving Panic! Idk where you’re getting the implication that he’s the Moon from THAT song
RYDEN IS AS REAL AS FRERARD OKAY
Guys there’s literally a “Reinvent Love” shirt on Panic!s website I’m crying
ALSO! In the start of the song "nicotine" brendon said "I LOVE YOU RYAN ROSS BUT NOT RIGHT NOW!" dudeeeeee
Rocker At The Disco no, it says "I look like Rocky Balboa" wishful thinking I guess
This video made me cry wishing I could remember seeing them and I wish Ryden is still a thing
BUT I LOVE RYDEN, SO I LOVE THIS, AND I LOVE YOU
Considering the fact Ryden is my otp I’m only just freaking out
Moon- dark n gloomy
Ryan- dark n sad
Sun- bright n stuff
Brendon- as fucking bright and flamboyant as a lil gay baby could be
Thanks
Need to send this to Crankthatfrank
RYDEN IS REALLLLLL
THE DOUBLE CHINS CONFIRMS IT
I'm still waiting for shane dawson to do a conspiracy theory video about Ryden being real.
ive watched this video so many times tbh, I also link ppl to this when they argue that brendon is sun and ryan is moon
There's no SUNshine, this impossible year
Honestly the entire first verse of Impossible year sounds like a bad breakup
FORGET IMPOSSIBLE YEAR!!!! CAN WE TALK ABOTU HOUSE OF MEMORIES!?!?!??!
What do you get for the ship name of Sun and Moon? SOON
This was really inspirational
you know it real if everyones been shipping it for over 12 years
I was watching this in my basement and my mom came down and my mom came down and was like
Mom: are you afraid the sun gonna burn your skin?
Me: Ryan won't hurt me
Mom: what
Me: what
well this is genius
I think ryden is real and basically confirmed but people just pretend it isn't for a dramatic effect (?) O.o
I mean, we have every piece of evidence that we need as far as music and interviews
AND I THINK BRENDON KNOW THAT WE KNOW SO THE ONLY THING HE CAN DO IS TRY TO IGNORE IT AND PRETEND HE DOESN'T KNOW RYAN WHICH ONLY CONFIRMS IT EVEN MORE HE CANT WIN AGAINST US WE'RE AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE
just imagine:
Brendon onstage about to preform a song then he says “this song is dedicated to Ryan Ross” he chokes while saying “Ross”
He looks back up, eyes full of tears.
He shakily says: “I miss you”
I was waiting for someone to make this
Idk if it means anything but like everywhere you look at the lyrics for 'Stall Me' it says "curse everyone and everything, even the sun" but when you play 'Vices and Virtues' on itunes and you look at the lyrics for 'Stall Me (Demo)' it says "curse everyone and everything, even the sign"
Edit: idk Itunes coulda just fucked up tho
Why wasn’t there a warning about Northern Downpour
Me: *has multiple seizures and dies*
Fuck this shook me
I believe Ryden was real at some point even if it was a short time, I mean they where such good friends and now they pretend like each other doesn't exist, like you can't just throw away friends like that 😞
I know this is just for fun but this is seriously the best RYDEN CONFIRMED vid ive ever seen. all of it makes sense and it's just pure genius. Thank you for proving my hopes and dreams existed at one point
IN KING OF THE CLOUDS IT SAYS
“I don’t trust anything or anyone below the sun”
*Ryden is real and the government knows it*
Also The Overpass was totally about Ryden and anyone who says otherwise can fight me
This is really good. But in a recording of northern downpour from like 2008 as brendon sings "hey moon dont you go down" you can hear and see ryan say "never will" so that means that ryan is the moon and brendon is the sun.
And i got northern downpoured
Yes
*cries*
*northern downpour plays*
me: *smacks head repeatedly against desk*
5:27 got me triggered
Oh my gosh oh my gosh. I was just listening to I have friends in holy places and the last thing Brendon sings is of course "all depends on what you qualify as friends". After that, there is a few seconds of silence and then you can hear a kind of distorted "hey moon" being sung a few times by who I am pretty sure is Ryan. As we know from this video Brendon is moon, so maybe this is more of a hint towards the famous 'friend' being Ryan.
These were legit though
It makes it even sadder when you kind of see that the lyrics of northern downpour almost signify that Ryan is leaving, and he's telling brendon to be okay while he's gone. Like the lyrics:
The ink is running toward the page
It's chasin' off the days
Look back at both feet
And that winding knee
I missed your skin when you were east
You clicked your heels and wished for me
-don't you see it????????????????????????? Then:-
Through playful lips made of yarn
That fragile Capricorn
Unraveled words like moths upon old scarves
I know the world's a broken bone
But melt your headaches, call it home
There hes saying, "I know you're a fragile one, but you can get through it."
I think that's why Brendon always cries. He misses ryan so much, and those lines just tell him that Ryan is still there in spirit, but he wants him there with him, together.
Great, im crying even more.
This video makes my damn emo heart cri it’s own tears
well it's 2018 and im still here crying about all this shit i just want ryan to come back and everything to be as it used to
WHY CAN'T THEY GET BACK TOGETHER ALL READY
the northern downpour part literally made me cry thanks
At 0:15, Brendon Urie looks like Jet Star (Ray Tora) and Ryan Ross looks like Party Poison (Gerard Way)
don't mind me screaming in the corner that it all makes sense and waking my whole family up
UHM
RYAN IS THE MOON
BRENDON IS THE SUN
I WILL FIGHT YOU ON THIS
How come in "I Have Friends in Holy Spaces" Brendon says "if the sun would come out and sing with me" and Northern downpour is next on Pretty. Odd which is the first song on the album that Ryan sings in
YEE! At the Disco ok but you're pretty much ignoring all of the evidence that b is the sun and ry is the moon.. i admit, there is some things that could make you think that it's the other way around but there's far more evidence proving my point
Nadine Nassar i commented that over a year ago. i don’t ship ryden anymore, and you shouldn’t either (it’s disrespectful), so feel free to disregard my original comment
Progressively it started to get more, and more sassy
im SHOOK
me: sees the video, clicks on the video
*I WILL NOT CRY*
also me: cries hysterically