Hey man, your a vw freak through and through, I did a 1680 with same pistons , 69 mm crank, counterweighted, lots of valve and head work 1.25:1 rockers and dropped 110 hp to the back wheels on the dyno at work. I run a Baja with 3x3 arms and a bus trans. I used that engine as a base and built a turbo for it. I used a 750 4barrel on it and jammed 15 lbs of boost at it, yee ha, I staked the ring lands, just put it all back together with forged pistons and gapless ring , been watching you videos, looking for secrets as I just ordered a bunch of goodies for my upcoming 2276. I like what your doing , you crack me up.....VW POWER!! I'll send you some pics or look me up on utube ,I have over 100 vids Mark Russell
Between you and Darrin I recon you two have the most information to all the options...That's a really good thing to see it from other angles and you two know the deal...Good stuff EZ.
+ZIGgassedUP Your are correct. Darrin was taught by the best. He is a true Racer and walks the walk. I come from a dirt and sand background. Self taught and learn from all of darrins vids plus my own experience. I have had some of my engines for over 20 years.
I like those piston and cylinders kit. Going to be a great build. I had those 40 IDF's on mine at the time. good carb's. Thanks for the update on the build
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox It's always interesting to take apart an engine someone else built and see what there is to see. Maybe add the personal touch.
I run 36 dells on a 1955cc motor. 30 chokes, 130 mains and 60 idles ( may swap back to 55s). They are a very good carb. On AA performance stuff, I have flow benched a set of AA 40mm heads and stock they are not good at low lift. If you reshape the chambers and do a valve job then you can make them work really well, it just takes a bit of time. Thanks for posting.
+Greg's Garage I learn something new every time I watch a VWdarrin vid and every time I freshen up a VW engine. As always G Thanks for your continued support. th-cam.com/video/tbyQH-QDQR4/w-d-xo.html
Any updates? I'm anxiously waiting to put mine together. Mine cylinders weren't packaged as well as, they should go back to all that paper vs. a little styrofoam, but the skirt got broke on one. So now I just look at it with 3 cylinders and wait on the replacement set lol
EZ Gz if u use those 88mm thick walls and cut aa heads 90.2 what size engine is that? im in this same situation got a really nice as41 short block low miles thinking of using the 88mm and aa big valve heads . instead of opening up the engine I also have another case that s open for 90.2 set of 041 heads jugs and pistons . no bottom end need a crank cam lifters etc.
69 crank + 88 jugs = 1679 I think you ment 90.5 ? Why wouldn't you just get the case cut along with the heads and build a nice 1776 69 X 90..5 Use it with a Engel 100 cam and dual carbs (or not) Will run better than what your describing and last longer.
Hi @TheEZGZ! Already learned a lot from watching your videos! What's your idea on the thin bottom section of the 88s? Could this be a durability issue in the end after some time? I'm hestitating for a new build (where I don't want to have the case bored) to use either these or the 87 ones for a 1641 ... What would you advise?
If you use the 88s you will have to increase the bore in the head to 90.5. So in my opinion you are better off boring the case and head and make it a 1776. This combination should last as long as a stock 1600. In my opinion for the little bit you gain you are better off building a stock 1600 with that new Engle 90 cam and the small dual 40 kadrons with 1 3/8 header. Engle W90 Type 1 Camshaft (Cheater Cam), 1.1 or 1.25 Rockers is designed for 1.1 or 1.25 rockers, and it's specs are .295" Cam Lift, .325" Valve Lift (1.1 Rockers), 265 degrees of advertised duration, and 224 degrees of duration at .050", on a 107 Lobe Center. This is an excellent low-end cam for you guys on a tight budget. It will work with the stock carburetor, a centermount 2bbl (progressive, or dual 1bbls. Yes you can also use dual 2bbls! This cam works great even with stock heads, but as headwork is increased it's performance will too! Expect a powerband of idle to 5000 RPMs This cam is great because you can use HD Single Valve springs and Bolt On Rocker Shafts, but a lot of guys run it with stock valve springs and stock rockers too! Use a compression ratio of 8-8.25:1.
do u have a video on compression ratio,s and how they work etc?.I am lost on whats what and how CR works,and what the numbers mean?..thanks great videos.i am in the middle of restoring my kellison buggy with a 1600 AE engine from 1971.before I dig into it I need to understand the CR..
I did not measure them. They came with the piston and wrist pins. They fit the stock rod bearing. They worked fine and assembled with no problem. I had no reason to measure them. Sorry. Ask the folks at "AA Piston""
Click on my channel and go to the play list. I did a whole series on it. Plus my cross country trip. or checkout ACN www.aircooled.net/1800cc-engine-parts-list-case-machining-needed-heads-bored/
Wow! That's to hot. I use a infrared digital gun and my lower block temps run around 190 Fahrenheit or around 90 C. I shoot it all around the lower block area where the oil is. I don't trust electric automotive gauges. Especially the VDO brand. It would be nice if you had some kind of thermometer that you could stick down the dipstick tube. If you have been running these high oil temps during normal driving all the time you would have a lot more problems I'm thinking. I'm really interested to what you find out.
My dad is just wanting to use it on his dual port 1600. Highway use on his 69 bug. Everybody we talk to say it's not for street use. What's your opinion on that? Thanks for getting back to me. My dad and I love watching your videos.
It worked just great with dual carbs and the FK7 cam. If your running a stock dual port with Pic 34 carb you would be happier with the vacum advance dizzy. The $29 dizzy will work but probably have the off idle bog. Some folks put down the 009 but I have been running them on the street and offroad for many years and they seem to get the job done for me. Those guys on the Samba will find something to complain about no matter what ?????? Thats why I don't bother trying to argue with them. I don't go by what other people say. I just do it and post my results.
as long as its not a black cap those crack and the worst rotor was those az black ones they had carbon instead of brass and they would zit im going to order that dist. its a car craft or something
be careful with that copycat 009 i got one at my local vw shop for 50 and the condenser was bad..... brand new distributor ith a bad condenser,,,, left me stranded, not far from home... but still.. I went home and put the old german one back in,,, lol
+Mopar Volkswagen In all my years I have only had one bad "new" condenser and I did the same thing. Mine wouldn't even start. Thanks for the heads up. That's why I planned to take a complete dizzy on my trip.
+TheEZGZ was really confused it would run but wouldn't rev at all untill like 2 seconds later and it would rev then go back to a crappy idle... burned up a starter trying to figure it out.... your making me want to try a 1679 or what ever size your making. i have a stock 1600 im rebuilding it has nicks in the head and on top of the cylinders of 1 and 3 like something was in there but nothing on the valves. if you have any input itd be great if you can.
+alphahr I bought those heads due to the low price. 145ea + 30 to open them up. I have two other engines they will fit. This was a mystery engine that came in the Baja and I couldn't resist a look inside and it was running poorly. So those pistons solved the issue and didn't even know they made that size. It will be interesting. Thanks for your interest. Stay tuned
Hey man, your a vw freak through and through, I did a 1680 with same pistons , 69 mm crank, counterweighted, lots of valve and head work 1.25:1 rockers and dropped 110 hp to the back wheels on the dyno at work. I run a Baja with 3x3 arms and a bus trans. I used that engine as a base and built a turbo for it. I used a 750 4barrel on it and jammed 15 lbs of boost at it, yee ha, I staked the ring lands, just put it all back together with forged pistons and gapless ring , been watching you videos, looking for secrets as I just ordered a bunch of goodies for my upcoming 2276. I like what your doing , you crack me up.....VW POWER!! I'll send you some pics or look me up on utube ,I have over 100 vids Mark Russell
Between you and Darrin I recon you two have the most information to all the options...That's a really good thing to see it from other angles and you two know the deal...Good stuff EZ.
+ZIGgassedUP Your are correct. Darrin was taught by the best. He is a true Racer and walks the walk. I come from a dirt and sand background. Self taught and learn from all of darrins vids plus my own experience. I have had some of my engines for over 20 years.
I like those piston and cylinders kit. Going to be a great build. I had those 40 IDF's on mine at the time. good carb's. Thanks for the update on the build
+Rusty “rustyglovebox” Glovebox It's always interesting to take apart an engine someone else built and see what there is to see. Maybe add the personal touch.
Right on EzGz! Love the shop talk and parts! Have a good'nnn
I'm getting those.Thanks love your videos 🤙
Enjoy!
Those P/C look like a a very good step up from the thin wall 88's. I would definitely look into those since I have a set of cut heads already
I run 36 dells on a 1955cc motor. 30 chokes, 130 mains and 60 idles ( may swap back to 55s). They are a very good carb.
On AA performance stuff, I have flow benched a set of AA 40mm heads and stock they are not good at low lift. If you reshape the chambers and do a valve job then you can make them work really well, it just takes a bit of time. Thanks for posting.
+Jon Laws That's good to know. Thanks for sharing that.
I love watching these vids. You and Darrin both know an awful lot about the VW motors.
+Greg's Garage I learn something new every time I watch a VWdarrin vid and every time I freshen up a VW engine. As always G Thanks for your continued support. th-cam.com/video/tbyQH-QDQR4/w-d-xo.html
Any updates? I'm anxiously waiting to put mine together. Mine cylinders weren't packaged as well as, they should go back to all that paper vs. a little styrofoam, but the skirt got broke on one. So now I just look at it with 3 cylinders and wait on the replacement set lol
EZ Gz if u use those 88mm thick walls and cut aa heads 90.2 what size engine is that? im in this same situation got a really nice as41 short block low miles thinking of using the 88mm and aa big valve heads . instead of opening up the engine I also have another case that s open for 90.2 set of 041 heads jugs and pistons . no bottom end need a crank cam lifters etc.
69 crank + 88 jugs = 1679
I think you ment 90.5 ?
Why wouldn't you just get the case cut along with the heads and build a nice 1776 69 X 90..5
Use it with a Engel 100 cam and dual carbs (or not)
Will run better than what your describing and last longer.
Please send me the link of the website you bought these from! I'm very interested
aapistons.com/
Woo Hoo! Yer a learning me some great information! Thanks very much!
Hi @TheEZGZ! Already learned a lot from watching your videos! What's your idea on the thin bottom section of the 88s? Could this be a durability issue in the end after some time? I'm hestitating for a new build (where I don't want to have the case bored) to use either these or the 87 ones for a 1641 ... What would you advise?
If you use the 88s you will have to increase the bore in the head to 90.5. So in my opinion you are better off boring the case and head and make it a 1776. This combination should last as long as a stock 1600. In my opinion for the little bit you gain you are better off building a stock 1600 with that new Engle 90 cam and the small dual 40 kadrons with 1 3/8 header.
Engle W90 Type 1 Camshaft (Cheater Cam), 1.1 or 1.25 Rockers is designed for 1.1 or 1.25 rockers, and it's specs are .295" Cam Lift, .325" Valve Lift (1.1 Rockers), 265 degrees of advertised duration, and 224 degrees of duration at .050", on a 107 Lobe Center.
This is an excellent low-end cam for you guys on a tight budget. It will work with the stock carburetor, a centermount 2bbl (progressive, or dual 1bbls. Yes you can also use dual 2bbls!
This cam works great even with stock heads, but as headwork is increased it's performance will too! Expect a powerband of idle to 5000 RPMs
This cam is great because you can use HD Single Valve springs and Bolt On Rocker Shafts, but a lot of guys run it with stock valve springs and stock rockers too! Use a compression ratio of 8-8.25:1.
great video and your both awesome dudes
+Jim Rowlings We are just trying to help others and pass on what we have learned. Thanks for your support and comment Jim
do u have a video on compression ratio,s and how they work etc?.I am lost on whats what and how CR works,and what the numbers mean?..thanks great videos.i am in the middle of restoring my kellison buggy with a 1600 AE engine from 1971.before I dig into it I need to understand the CR..
This is the easiest calculator I know of and CB performance sell quality stuff. Check them out cbperformance.com/v/enginecalc.html
thank u sir
I've had good luck with the AA stuff so far. All 3 sets I've put in run good.
Thanks for sharing that. Me too.
Can I ask out of interest what the dimensions of the wrist pins are. Are they still 22 mm with a 4mm wall and the length...how long are they please?
I did not measure them. They came with the piston and wrist pins. They fit the stock rod bearing. They worked fine and assembled with no problem. I had no reason to measure them. Sorry. Ask the folks at "AA Piston""
Will be following along. Thanks for the videos!
+vw64manyrd Back at you. These darned cars are like a virus. LOL
What rockers did you use? and size of intake valves? and exhaust valve size?
Stock rockers. 40 x 35 heads but sucked a valve guide., Replaced with stock 35 x 32 in new heads and b een a happy camper ever since
what are you going to do with them stock 1600 jug and pistons from the baja bug my friend!
+gilliland426 Hard to say, I might re use them if the new parts don't fit well. I won't know for a couple weeks. I have to wait on so many people.
Where can I see all the specs for your engine build with the 88 pistons
Click on my channel and go to the play list. I did a whole series on it. Plus my cross country trip.
or checkout ACN www.aircooled.net/1800cc-engine-parts-list-case-machining-needed-heads-bored/
Super amazing video. inspiring....
+Morgan Wall Nice of you to say so. Thanks for your support.
I've heard the lower portion of the cylinders crack. How did they work out? Message me please
I haven't had it apart to look yet.
Lemme know
Have u ever had a temp gauge for that engine build with 88 pistons? Cause mine its reading like 120 celcius is that normal?
Where are you taking that reading from and what are the driving and outdoor air temp conditions?
@@TheEZGZ I install it in the block off plate I live in the tropics...when normally its about 80 or 90 farenheight
Wow! That's to hot. I use a infrared digital gun and my lower block temps run around 190 Fahrenheit or around 90 C. I shoot it all around the lower block area where the oil is. I don't trust electric automotive gauges. Especially the VDO brand. It would be nice if you had some kind of thermometer that you could stick down the dipstick tube. If you have been running these high oil temps during normal driving all the time you would have a lot more problems I'm thinking. I'm really interested to what you find out.
Fun Stuff Brotha
+Rodder Files Thanks Kenny
Hew how did that distributor work out for you?
No Problameo :-)
My dad is just wanting to use it on his dual port 1600. Highway use on his 69 bug. Everybody we talk to say it's not for street use. What's your opinion on that? Thanks for getting back to me. My dad and I love watching your videos.
It worked just great with dual carbs and the FK7 cam. If your running a stock dual port with Pic 34 carb you would be happier with the vacum advance dizzy. The $29 dizzy will work but probably have the off idle bog. Some folks put down the 009 but I have been running them on the street and offroad for many years and they seem to get the job done for me. Those guys on the Samba will find something to complain about no matter what ?????? Thats why I don't bother trying to argue with them. I don't go by what other people say. I just do it and post my results.
Any particular brand you suggest for the vacuum advanced distributor? Heard you say pertronix several times in other videos.
www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PER%2DD186504
What carb settings do u use in a 34 with 88 pistons?
30 main jet and bump up the idle jet 1 step
Thanks bro
Engine specs vacum advance electronic distributor, 110 cam 88 pistons ,34 carb
as long as its not a black cap those crack and the worst rotor was those az black ones they had carbon instead of brass and they would zit im going to order that dist. its a car craft or something
+Alwayscheerfulx carcraftstore.com/engineelectric.aspx?page=2
Cool
+wtbm123 :-)
I got my EZGZ fix today
Thats a good thing!
be careful with that copycat 009 i got one at my local vw shop for 50 and the condenser was bad..... brand new distributor ith a bad condenser,,,, left me stranded, not far from home... but still.. I went home and put the old german one back in,,, lol
+Mopar Volkswagen In all my years I have only had one bad "new" condenser and I did the same thing. Mine wouldn't even start. Thanks for the heads up. That's why I planned to take a complete dizzy on my trip.
+TheEZGZ was really confused it would run but wouldn't rev at all untill like 2 seconds later and it would rev then go back to a crappy idle... burned up a starter trying to figure it out.... your making me want to try a 1679 or what ever size your making. i have a stock 1600 im rebuilding it has nicks in the head and on top of the cylinders of 1 and 3 like something was in there but nothing on the valves. if you have any input itd be great if you can.
Those P/C look like a a very good step up from the thin wall 88's. I would definitely look into those since I have a set of cut heads already
+alphahr I bought those heads due to the low price. 145ea + 30 to open them up. I have two other engines they will fit. This was a mystery engine that came in the Baja and I couldn't resist a look inside and it was running poorly. So those pistons solved the issue and didn't even know they made that size. It will be interesting. Thanks for your interest. Stay tuned