@@edwardelric5491 I disagree, Poatan's run is what gets you FOTY, he fought and defended his title short noticed three times and this doesn't get him the fighter of the year??? What are we doing here!
When geathje hurt and dropped max he had a small window to land follow up shots to finish max but he didn't land anything and let max survives, tuporia didn't, he hurt max and his follow up shots landed and finished max, he capitalized on the small window of max being hurt and didn't let him recover. If max had the replix of shooting take down to recover he could have survived, but that's one of his skills limitations. Look at Rob font average durability but he never got finished because when he gets hurt he makes great decision of how to survive like shooting take downs or getting the clinch. Max never thought of doing that and payed. Plus statistically max always had one of the worst defense stats in the ufc it's him and jiri, his chin always carried him in all of his fights, he gets hit a lot and big punchers too.
3:43 if this ain't recency bias i don't know what it is, in a world where islam beat pfp3 and pfp1 in a span of 4 months back to back who btw were on 20+ combined winstreak, there is noway you can say these are the best wins back to back
Islam is still number 1 p4p, he Annihilated the two guys that defeated max multiple times volk and poirier. He destroyed volk before tuporia and likely softened him. In the past 10 months he head kicked volk in 2 minutes, and finished poirier in the submission of the year. Tuporia was ranked 4th p4p before this fight so now he should probably ranked number 2 and jump over jones and alex. And yes Islam was physically compromised in australia because of the 12 hours less to recover from the weight cut.
You three are basically carrying the entire company on yalls backs. Keep staying creative, keep being real, keep up the original content ideas! No offense but im glad ariel left. Cant wait to see how the dust settles.
The biggest topic of discussion coming out of ufc 308 is by far khamzat he stole the show with this out of this world performance against a legend of 185. Which is crazy cause max got koed for the first time but nope the biggest headline and topic of discussion for fans is khamzat destroying Robert, in a display of superhuman levels of strengths and brutality. Even grappling and wrestling monsters yoel and jakare couldn't do that to Robert. The only fight to make is khamzat vs ddp, biggest fight at 185 and the ufc knows how much of a star khamzat could become with a belt. I remember 3 years ago when khamzat first came in the ufc and was the biggest hottest thing in the sport dana (on GQ sports) had said after ronda and conor if anyone can bring the sport to a new level and become this new Transcend super star its khamzat.... So already back then dana and ufc believed khamzat potential was massive.
Usually love the takes but feels like huge prisoner of the moment bias from Jed on the p4p discussion. Islam beats the number 1 pfp fighter twice in one year and doesn’t get fighter of the year. Now revisionist history frames it like it was just a featherweight so it counts less? And then turn around and cite that as the reason Ilia should be heralded as as the #1? Make it make sense.
The lack of 10-8s boggles my mind. They changed the rules specifically to give more 10-8s then the judges refused to impliment the rule change. Plus the UFC failed to push for the implimentation of the new rules.
The reason you discredit Islam for his vcitory over Volks is the reason I don't want him to face ilia. When Volk was pound for pound number one, you all said Volk was as good as it gets but after winning , he is just a featherweight 😂
Jed with the perfect call. How in the world Ige didn’t get a 10-8 in round 1 is lunacy. Had a takedown, more damaging strikes on the feet, then almost finished the fight but it’s a 10-9? Insanity.
Hmm llia easy beats islam in p4p because..he beat one of the best fighters ever in Alex...but yet two minutes later...Islam beat guys who weren't really in the prime (talking about Alex)..hmm am sure islam beat Alex first then illa beat him..very strange
Not only should there be more 10-8 and 10-7 rounds, but the judges should also use every number from 1-10. If you only do half the damage, half the control, half the dominance, there is no reason you should get more than 5 points for the round.
Great card but some judges almost ruined the night. Leal, Hugo and Ige all got robbed imo. Ankelaev and Magomedov are the real deals and Topuria might be as good as he thinks he is. Dang.
Jed be salty over dana calling out and telling the media if they dont want him to put down francis then stop asking him about francis all the time. They instigating most of the drama, they ask francis about dana , then ask dana about francis response, then rinse and repeat.
Topuria is not the best fighter in the world jed is sending me back to uncrowned. Still love ya’ll but jed has been out of his mind. 10-8 ige 😂 laughable brother
@@e.casey.leydon i agree fights should be scored differently but it seems every round is 10-9 unless someone gets bludgeoned for a majority of the round. But yes i agree ige won his round way more convincingly than either of the other rounds. Its just hard to listen sometimes i know he is a man of hot takes and i did enjoy your guys’ watch along more than any other one so props to you guys there. Your guys content is honestly amazing across the board so thank you guys for that. And maybe jed is right and i need to rewatch the round definitely possible. MMA fighting 4L 👊
I mean, cmon bro. Whittaker is a real MW. If he isn't, just because he was once a WW, then the same is true of Chimaev....which thus completely undermines your entire point.
@@GWFHegel-ms7gzthank you, that statement is absurd. He made his debut at MW, KO’d GM3 in seconds, rolled through Holland who was ranked at MW , and now Rob, a former champ. That’s so stupid, plus the point I didn’t think of, Khamzat is coming up from 170! Insane
CALMzat CHILLmaev is the newest Mythical Fighter
He is very calm and subdued
🔻🍉🔻🍉🔻
From the river to the sea!
The description of DDP vs Khamzat is amazing Jed 😂
Jed and Snoop Dogg as animal planet based fight commentary team.
He’s brutal
Great card but everyone I wanted to win lost. Such is MMA. Excited to see what Topuria does next and a match between DDP and Chimaev.
UFC 308 made me cry twice.
Me too man
Khamzat absolutely mauls fluffy, he’s undersized and it’s not like he has amazing takedown defense
Cannot believe you put omalley and topuria in the same convo after 308?
Fighter says he’ll win fight: Mike Heck: He called it twice. Two times he said he’d win and he did.
Love the show, but you guys suffer from recency bias. Islam is still the best pound per pound fighter and Poatan is the fighter of the year
Islam MAY be the P4P, but putting Poatan above Tiporuia as FoTY is criminal.
Islam is number 1 p4p.
But ilia is definitely fighter of the year.
@@edwardelric5491 I disagree, Poatan's run is what gets you FOTY, he fought and defended his title short noticed three times and this doesn't get him the fighter of the year??? What are we doing here!
Damn Max… I dropped to my knees at Buffalo Wild Wings
When geathje hurt and dropped max he had a small window to land follow up shots to finish max but he didn't land anything and let max survives, tuporia didn't, he hurt max and his follow up shots landed and finished max, he capitalized on the small window of max being hurt and didn't let him recover.
If max had the replix of shooting take down to recover he could have survived, but that's one of his skills limitations.
Look at Rob font average durability but he never got finished because when he gets hurt he makes great decision of how to survive like shooting take downs or getting the clinch. Max never thought of doing that and payed.
Plus statistically max always had one of the worst defense stats in the ufc it's him and jiri, his chin always carried him in all of his fights, he gets hit a lot and big punchers too.
Ilia just knocked out 2 of the best 3 featherweights of all time back to back
3:43 if this ain't recency bias i don't know what it is, in a world where islam beat pfp3 and pfp1 in a span of 4 months back to back who btw were on 20+ combined winstreak, there is noway you can say these are the best wins back to back
UFC will go to Spain, just like they went to Africa when they had 3 belts, or when Mexican fighters had belts. BACK TO THE APEX!
Exactly. People still doesn't understand how Dana works.
Jed speaking truth right off the top. Ilia is clearly #1 p4p
There should be more 10-10s and more 10-8s, although I believe the former should still be rare.
Islam is still number 1 p4p, he Annihilated the two guys that defeated max multiple times volk and poirier.
He destroyed volk before tuporia and likely softened him.
In the past 10 months he head kicked volk in 2 minutes, and finished poirier in the submission of the year.
Tuporia was ranked 4th p4p before this fight so now he should probably ranked number 2 and jump over jones and alex.
And yes Islam was physically compromised in australia because of the 12 hours less to recover from the weight cut.
Fallacy: MMA Math
You three are basically carrying the entire company on yalls backs. Keep staying creative, keep being real, keep up the original content ideas! No offense but im glad ariel left. Cant wait to see how the dust settles.
Topuria is wayyyyyy bigger then Sean after last night... globally
The biggest topic of discussion coming out of ufc 308 is by far khamzat he stole the show with this out of this world performance against a legend of 185.
Which is crazy cause max got koed for the first time but nope the biggest headline and topic of discussion for fans is khamzat destroying Robert, in a display of superhuman levels of strengths and brutality.
Even grappling and wrestling monsters yoel and jakare couldn't do that to Robert.
The only fight to make is khamzat vs ddp, biggest fight at 185 and the ufc knows how much of a star khamzat could become with a belt.
I remember 3 years ago when khamzat first came in the ufc and was the biggest hottest thing in the sport dana (on GQ sports) had said after ronda and conor if anyone can bring the sport to a new level and become this new Transcend super star its khamzat.... So already back then dana and ufc believed khamzat potential was massive.
I’m still shocked anyone who’s ever watched an mma fight thinks Rinat won that fight. Come on
Lopez vs Topuria is the new Halloway vs Topuria.
Usually love the takes but feels like huge prisoner of the moment bias from Jed on the p4p discussion. Islam beats the number 1 pfp fighter twice in one year and doesn’t get fighter of the year. Now revisionist history frames it like it was just a featherweight so it counts less? And then turn around and cite that as the reason Ilia should be heralded as as the #1? Make it make sense.
Yep first i thought he's being serious then the more i listend the more i understand it's just for getting reaction in comments
@@safira2104 You probably right and it worked on me haha
Great card, but literally every single person i was cheering for lost.
Me too, except I bet against every person I wanted to win.
Ilia vs prime aldo would've been fun
We saw prime Also against Holloway twice, Conor and Volk. Didn't end well for him.
Prime aldo never fought volk, but Ilia ko's vilk.either way
@@Pinpadprompts Prime Aldo against Volk? No.
@@Pinpadprompts prime aldo was like 2013ish don't kid yourself
Alex is my fighter of the year not that it matters. Because illia beat up my favorite fighter. 😢
I knew max was gona lose once i seen max looking rough from the weight cut
Islam still dogwalks Illia
@William-Morey-Bajer like Eddie Alvarez was going to dog walk Conor.Ill say it right now Illia beats Islam.
@@leonardomoore1868 Alvarez was the underdog against McGregor.
Unless he gets hit
Wrong weight class you absolute casual.
@@JayRoss-z4tOh dear!
The lack of 10-8s boggles my mind. They changed the rules specifically to give more 10-8s then the judges refused to impliment the rule change. Plus the UFC failed to push for the implimentation of the new rules.
You are 100% right
Greatest card of the year
A superstar is born tonight! Illia is exactly what we needed
The reason you discredit Islam for his vcitory over Volks is the reason I don't want him to face ilia. When Volk was pound for pound number one, you all said Volk was as good as it gets but after winning , he is just a featherweight 😂
I love max but finally a fighter whos destructive, talks a little smack but backs it up... wins thens shows respect.. what more do we need outta illia
Jed with the perfect call. How in the world Ige didn’t get a 10-8 in round 1 is lunacy. Had a takedown, more damaging strikes on the feet, then almost finished the fight but it’s a 10-9? Insanity.
Thank goodness heck isn't wearing extra medium shorts. Lol
bro, why 7 mins in are you now waffling about poatan ? everything has to be contrasted and compared immediately, jarring .
Hmm llia easy beats islam in p4p because..he beat one of the best fighters ever in Alex...but yet two minutes later...Islam beat guys who weren't really in the prime (talking about Alex)..hmm am sure islam beat Alex first then illa beat him..very strange
I want more 10-10s more 10-8s and more more 10-7s.
I also think half points are worth exploring.
As tough as Holloway not getting his night, this is too on the heels of Pereira. Impressive certainly.
Not only should there be more 10-8 and 10-7 rounds, but the judges should also use every number from 1-10. If you only do half the damage, half the control, half the dominance, there is no reason you should get more than 5 points for the round.
Great card but some judges almost ruined the night. Leal, Hugo and Ige all got robbed imo. Ankelaev and Magomedov are the real deals and Topuria might be as good as he thinks he is. Dang.
Can't bump islam because ilia beat max.. sorry
Topuria vs Poirier
Jed be salty over dana calling out and telling the media if they dont want him to put down francis then stop asking him about francis all the time. They instigating most of the drama, they ask francis about dana , then ask dana about francis response, then rinse and repeat.
Lmfao look at the UFC fanboys defending Dana lying and criticizing media for doing their jobs.
Topuria is not the best fighter in the world jed is sending me back to uncrowned. Still love ya’ll but jed has been out of his mind. 10-8 ige 😂 laughable brother
Do you think r1 and R3 for that fight should be worth the same?
@@e.casey.leydon i agree fights should be scored differently but it seems every round is 10-9 unless someone gets bludgeoned for a majority of the round. But yes i agree ige won his round way more convincingly than either of the other rounds. Its just hard to listen sometimes i know he is a man of hot takes and i did enjoy your guys’ watch along more than any other one so props to you guys there. Your guys content is honestly amazing across the board so thank you guys for that. And maybe jed is right and i need to rewatch the round definitely possible. MMA fighting 4L 👊
Koing Volk after a headkick KO loss isnt that impressive...
Chimaev still didnt fight a reall middle wheight. And he might not show up.
Robs a former champ.
🤣😂😂😂
I mean, cmon bro. Whittaker is a real MW. If he isn't, just because he was once a WW, then the same is true of Chimaev....which thus completely undermines your entire point.
@@GWFHegel-ms7gzthank you, that statement is absurd. He made his debut at MW, KO’d GM3 in seconds, rolled through Holland who was ranked at MW , and now Rob, a former champ. That’s so stupid, plus the point I didn’t think of, Khamzat is coming up from 170! Insane
Im sad