On today’s episode of “We literally didn’t learn anything” Professor Hop destroys the resale value of rare magazines while mag dumping into trash. Somebody get this man a lab coat.
What is this "rare magazines" stuff? Seriously. They look like they're just mil-spec. Heard Hop mention them a few times in the vid, but are the Surefeed mags really that big of a deal?
@@Game-The-Systemthey are as good as mil spec can be. They are recognized as one of the best mil spec magazines, but unfortunately they stopped production, I think last year.
"I'm starting to feel like I'm wasting my time here" My borther in Christ, being out in the fresh air turning perfectly good ammo into noise and dopamine is never a waste of time. A waste of money maybe; but never time.
Copper turns purple at 520 F. If you increase the gas you increase the heat. Increasing the heat will turn it blue. Decreasing the gas will decrease the heat and keep the color at orange then yellow.
I think people vastly overestimate the amount that carbon fouling matters. I clean my trap gun once a season, at the end of the season. That’s ~1200 rounds per year, and I have never had a single issue in 14 years of shooting trap, with 10 of those years being with a Remington 1187 and the last 4 with a Benelli ethos. I did have to replace the gas o-ring once on my 1187, but that is my dad’s gun that he bought in the 80s My main training AR right now is a Geissele 16”. I cleaned it when I got it, and wiped down the upper and BCG with slip2k grease. I’ve never cleaned it or added lube. It’s filthy, and yet it goes bang every single time and shows no signs of slowing down. It has ~1500 rounds through it over the last couple years, and quite a bit of that is just steel case tula. 95% of those rounds have been suppressed with an RC2 762 Idk, I just haven’t ever seen the need to obsess over cleaning. I shoot a gun until it won’t run, then take 500 rounds off of that round count and clean it at those intervals. YMMV
Depends how much you shoot i shoot at least 15k rounds per year about 288 rounds per week. so i clean my rifles on schedule I missed my cleaning schedule 1 time and my chamber was so dirty it couldn’t seat a round It was fine when temperatures were high but when it was time to go outdoors in freezing temp wouldn’t run. Clean your guns regularly with hard use even if it runs or don’t shoot that much a clean weapon will be better then a dirty weapon.
I have 3x pws with high back pressure cans. After a few hundred rounds, they are all filthy in lower. I've got 500rds on KAK/12.5/high BP can. Lower looks the same. A lower BP can is going to make WAY more difference in lower filth. I LOVE my KAK K-spec, no more right ear plug, sounds like PWS to me AND spectators I've asked to judge. The dual ejector is amazing, I wish my 308 had that.
And this is why you can’t get rid of the blowback by tuning like high flow cans: that gas hanging out in the barrel still has to go somewhere. AGB or not, there’s a shit ton more gas in the barrel than what you sending back into the action.
He's got charisma, i could watch him wash the dishes. Or shoot computers, lamps, tv's, old chipped dishes like i do. [Don't tell mom the babysitter is dead]-"the dishes are, done, man".
Used to watch him review vidya gaems on his ancient basically abandoned channel. You can watch him play some on the nova group channel these days. Pretty funny.
@@johnkrstyen7351 Look man, I am just calling it out as it is. It is obvious that Stephen King went on a boy's trip to the pacific northwest in the 1990s
I love coming to Hop’s channel to learn more esoteric information on parts I have never had a need for. In all seriousness though, Hop you make the most seemingly complicated stuff very understandable. I appreciate what you do
Probably gasses with the most complete combustion particles but still more than the milspec unsuppressed created a thin oxide layer on your ammo. Just that first iridescent stage before becoming brown
Thanks for the video Hop. This is where you can find no nonsense videos on firearms and issues we all deal with delivered at an intelligence level that keeps the cavemen at bay.
BIG thx for the follow up to your previous vid, Hop! You're a giant amongst men. Of course shooting suppressed with a standard BCG introduces a boat load of crap into the action, anyways. Was curious to see if this particular KAK BCG exacerbated the problem.
I have this BCG and w suppressor use the ammo in the mag gets extremely dirty no matter where the gas is directed. No matter what u will be cleaning a mess. But the very dirty loading ammo works fine.
Don't beat yourself up. Shooting on a warm sunny day...is shooting on a warm sunny day. You needed a Bluetooth headset instead of talking to us. But, I appreciate the work you put in. My question to you is what did the lowers look like? I found a bigger problem with the crud around the selectors when shooting suppressed. I put in Bootleg BCG's to fix the issue. Did the K-Spec crap somewhere else? Great video!
I'm happy to see more 12.5 middy on screen. I rather enjoy mine, made up of a Triarc barrel, Riflespeed block, and MK4 Federal rail. Its sitting on a A5 equipped lower and it was very worth the time and money.
Apparently my friend and his wife had a “long conversation” about the man vs. bear argument. I asked for her perspective and he didn’t acknowledge I asked about it. I think “long conversation” was code for a “fight”.
Sounds like this would go well with my 300blk pistol. Of course with subs, there’s no gas issue to be aware of, but with supers I definitely notice the gas
Always seem to drop these videos at the perfect time. I was JUST eying their full chrome K spec bcg the other day. I will say if you shoot suppressed a lot you should periodically shove a CLP soaked rag and work it inside the mag to wipe out the inside. I was having some pretty consistent feeding issues with older mags once the fouling built up a lot and cleaning them solved it.
I just got one. Ran a few hundred rounds through it in a MK-12. I can tell a difference in the amount of gas coming back in my face from the AEM-5. No difference whatsoever so far in feeding/reliably. Only downside so far is the thing is hella expensive.
Forgot to control for fouling that was created in the rifle by shooting the previous magazine. Should have 4 different rifles with same barrel length, same suppressor and then control. It would make the test more accurate
@@Hoplopfheil I'm just pointing out that for scientific accuracy you'd want to track the rifle fouling per round by pairing the rifle to the mag, allowing for no cross contamination between mags. And the only reason for pointing it out is for absurdities sake. No one actually expects you to do it Hop. We're sadists, yes, we're not quite that level of sadistic.
Purple bullets is just a reflection of the oxidation state of the metal. Over-all I think your original hypothesis, that the amount of gas dumped from the bcg won't matter much, is correct. What I am curious about is how the K-spec and the downward venting would be affected, or affect a full-auto gun. I'm wondering if there is enough force to push rounds downward in the mag in a way that might affect feeding. I do not expect you to test this.
Hi I am from sunny Scotland, recently I purchased a spikes tactical 12 inch barrel straight pull(UK law ,no semi autos larger than.22lr😥) I have changed the fcg springs to JP ones,great improvement, getting a moderator (suppressor)any recommendations about what next to change,improve,fettle with,waste money etc,I will take some abuse about no gas parts ar,s,(be gentle)take note that I am probably one of a handful of ar(5.56mm) owners in Scotland,all the best to you crazy and wonderful Americans❤
Weird, it's almost like most guys on the internet haven't ever actually carried mags in mag pouches outside of their house and seen how dirty they get even bullets-down
@@bobthebuilder1360 this video: "does the KAK bolt carrier group cause more fouling of the magazine and magazine well than a mil spec bolt carrier group?". The guy I'm responding to: "bUlLeTs Get diRtY iN mAg PoUcHeS nO mATtER HoW yOu StOrE ThEm" how is it relevant again?
I got to try my K-spec against my CMC three port carrier earlier and basically came to the conclusion that supressors just make everything dirtier anyway.
People are dumb to think it would’ve caused extra carbon onto the lower/mag it just proves nobody shoots their guns lol. I ran the K Spec for the past month and it’s ran extremely reliably.
My rounds get filthy shooting suppressed. And yes, when its warm and dry out, the fouling isnt bad but when you have hot gas hit cold rounds in the stack, it tends to condensate and stick.
Anyone know if Hop is a Trumptard?
He's a libertarian
If you find out, please let me know
Would that change your opinion on the content of his videos?
Imagine disregarding all points someone makes due to disagreeing with one *potential* aspect of someone else. I refuse to believe you're that stupid.
Trump doesn't currently produce any free float tubes, buffer systems, or IR lasers so hop probably doesn't know much about the guy.
TH-camrs that blow money on parts and ammo for experiments are the real heroes
what a pathetic opinion😂😂😂
@@chimpo131 speaking of your own?
@@chimpo131OP is using hyperbole bro, I don't thinks OP thinks peaple like this a real heroes. Just a cut above the rest of the guntubers.
Celebrate • The worst VDO you’ve ever uploaded. I had to shut it off.
Honestly, they provide a service for us. And that service is showing us what's out there. The most honest ones are the best
this is easily your most paul harrell coded video
needs more not poptart destruction.
@@PistoleroJesse 😢
Hop is turning into Paul Harrel before our very eyes.
A successor must eventually be crowned. It is an honor for anyone merely to be considered worthy.
@@Ridonkulous05Tarts for the Paul God
He also lives about 90 min away from Paul.
This is the type of ‘tism I subscribed for
Me I took,is this the dyslexic channel?
High level acoustic content 😂😂😂
Don’t be a regard
I thought it was very.... artistic
10:00 when the Courier confronts Benny at the Tops.
Can't belive you caught that NV reference
On today’s episode of “We literally didn’t learn anything” Professor Hop destroys the resale value of rare magazines while mag dumping into trash. Somebody get this man a lab coat.
What is this "rare magazines" stuff? Seriously. They look like they're just mil-spec. Heard Hop mention them a few times in the vid, but are the Surefeed mags really that big of a deal?
@@Game-The-Systemthey are as good as mil spec can be. They are recognized as one of the best mil spec magazines, but unfortunately they stopped production, I think last year.
You don’t know much about anything hub
@@Game-The-SystemI don’t get it either, when a pmag is $10 and have never failed me
They are $25-$30 new ONLY bc they are gray. The black ones go for around $15-$20ea
Spending time and money just to test out something hat may be shitty is why I show up here. The tism is real
"I'm starting to feel like I'm wasting my time here" My borther in Christ, being out in the fresh air turning perfectly good ammo into noise and dopamine is never a waste of time. A waste of money maybe; but never time.
Purple bullets do more damage if we're working on MMO rules 🤔
67% chance to apply poison DOT status effects per hit.
DEI tipped
@@tnnaasGreen is Poison, Purple is Necrotic Damage you filthy casual.
@@T0tenkampf tipped with AIDS oh no
My bullets are gold/yellow. Mine are better.
I used this video to guide my purchases for a number of things, including a house. Thanks Hop!
I use Hop's videos as a guide for buying mail order brides mostly.
If the AR-15 poops where it eats, then the PTR-91 eats where it poops.
And my M1A eats poop where it is .
lmao
Copper turns purple at 520 F. If you increase the gas you increase the heat. Increasing the heat will turn it blue. Decreasing the gas will decrease the heat and keep the color at orange then yellow.
This is the answer. You are blasting those rounds with tons of heat
could it affect accuracy?
@@narutobroken But the flow 556K is supposed to push all that heat and gas forward, right?
@@mig1nc Right which is why I'm confused lol
Obviously there is gas going through the bcg cycling the weapon you fucking rocket scientists
The purple is from an oxide layer being thermally grown and causing thin film interference. Same effect as a colorful oil slick
Thanks for getting your KAK poopy for us in the name of science!
I think people vastly overestimate the amount that carbon fouling matters. I clean my trap gun once a season, at the end of the season. That’s ~1200 rounds per year, and I have never had a single issue in 14 years of shooting trap, with 10 of those years being with a Remington 1187 and the last 4 with a Benelli ethos. I did have to replace the gas o-ring once on my 1187, but that is my dad’s gun that he bought in the 80s
My main training AR right now is a Geissele 16”. I cleaned it when I got it, and wiped down the upper and BCG with slip2k grease. I’ve never cleaned it or added lube. It’s filthy, and yet it goes bang every single time and shows no signs of slowing down. It has ~1500 rounds through it over the last couple years, and quite a bit of that is just steel case tula. 95% of those rounds have been suppressed with an RC2 762
Idk, I just haven’t ever seen the need to obsess over cleaning. I shoot a gun until it won’t run, then take 500 rounds off of that round count and clean it at those intervals. YMMV
Depends how much you shoot i shoot at least 15k rounds per year about 288 rounds per week. so i clean my rifles on schedule I missed my cleaning schedule 1 time and my chamber was so dirty it couldn’t seat a round It was fine when temperatures were high but when it was time to go outdoors in freezing temp wouldn’t run. Clean your guns regularly with hard use even if it runs or don’t shoot that much a clean weapon will be better then a dirty weapon.
@@arthurpinder7816 there’s your difference between a hobby shooter and a professional shooter, I suppose
man, my lesbian aunt just isn't the same after Debra left.
I get zero information I will use from this video, hop just sooths my smooth brain lol
Lmao
Hop, your time with us is never a waste of time. 😊
I have 3x pws with high back pressure cans. After a few hundred rounds, they are all filthy in lower. I've got 500rds on KAK/12.5/high BP can. Lower looks the same. A lower BP can is going to make WAY more difference in lower filth.
I LOVE my KAK K-spec, no more right ear plug, sounds like PWS to me AND spectators I've asked to judge. The dual ejector is amazing, I wish my 308 had that.
mine does, its meh
And this is why you can’t get rid of the blowback by tuning like high flow cans: that gas hanging out in the barrel still has to go somewhere. AGB or not, there’s a shit ton more gas in the barrel than what you sending back into the action.
He's got charisma, i could watch him wash the dishes. Or shoot computers, lamps, tv's, old chipped dishes like i do. [Don't tell mom the babysitter is dead]-"the dishes are, done, man".
Used to watch him review vidya gaems on his ancient basically abandoned channel. You can watch him play some on the nova group channel these days. Pretty funny.
You do throw all that trash away after you shoot it, right?
Negative results are still results.
Hop looks exactly like stephen king
Do not insult Hop like that.
@@johnkrstyen7351 Look man, I am just calling it out as it is. It is obvious that Stephen King went on a boy's trip to the pacific northwest in the 1990s
As long as he doesn’t pick up kings politics I can live with it.
Cool test. I theorize the extra gas being vented downwards is totally independent of the carbon soot being blasted into the magazines.
I love coming to Hop’s channel to learn more esoteric information on parts I have never had a need for. In all seriousness though, Hop you make the most seemingly complicated stuff very understandable. I appreciate what you do
Probably gasses with the most complete combustion particles but still more than the milspec unsuppressed created a thin oxide layer on your ammo. Just that first iridescent stage before becoming brown
Hop is a grown ass man. James gotta be proud
PURPLE NURPLE
Two videos in a week?? We're getting spoiled
🎼 He blinded me…with SCIENCE!!
The electronic sound plays in my mind every single time I read that.
@@mousepotato581same
@@sinisterthoughts2896 yeh
Thanks for the video Hop. This is where you can find no nonsense videos on firearms and issues we all deal with delivered at an intelligence level that keeps the cavemen at bay.
Appreciate the methodical approach!
The algorithm requires engagement
He puts in the work, gents
So we don’t have to.
BIG thx for the follow up to your previous vid, Hop! You're a giant amongst men.
Of course shooting suppressed with a standard BCG introduces a boat load of crap into the action, anyways. Was curious to see if this particular KAK BCG exacerbated the problem.
I have this BCG and w suppressor use the ammo in the mag gets extremely dirty no matter where the gas is directed. No matter what u will be cleaning a mess. But the very dirty loading ammo works fine.
Don't beat yourself up. Shooting on a warm sunny day...is shooting on a warm sunny day. You needed a Bluetooth headset instead of talking to us. But, I appreciate the work you put in. My question to you is what did the lowers look like? I found a bigger problem with the crud around the selectors when shooting suppressed. I put in Bootleg BCG's to fix the issue. Did the K-Spec crap somewhere else?
Great video!
Hop never seems bothered by dirty guns, I don't think he ever cleans em
I have a downward venting Kspec and I swear it makes my gun quieter. Thanks for confirming what I thought was true.
Just long enough for me to make food, not long enough for me to eat and watch. Still fun
"What the god damn?" Best part of the video. Thanks for the pain staking test you had to endure with this one.
It was 🤔 might cause some research amongst manufacturers,all the best from sunny Troon Scotland
Holy shit Hop you got some rare M420 A69 purple tip, that's crazy how did you manage that.
PMC Xtac my beloved
Thank you for you wasting your ammunition instead of me!!! I owe you a few drinks at the bar
They say Ulfric Stormcloak murdered the High King... with his voice! Shouted him apart!
We need our clean shaven hop back.
Damn a Focus Tripp video and a Hop video in one day? Blessed.
Yay more hop videos!
Edit: I love learning nothing at all if it means we get more hop vids FYI
Holy crap this was well done Hop! Good job!
I'm happy to see more 12.5 middy on screen. I rather enjoy mine, made up of a Triarc barrel, Riflespeed block, and MK4 Federal rail. Its sitting on a A5 equipped lower and it was very worth the time and money.
Was still fun to watch. Your first rifle is nice and quiet.
Thank you for this video
O'l Hopp and his common sense approach to training! always fun to watch! spending his money, so i dont have too!
Hot here in KY means wet, humid to the point of misery starting about this time of year.
Saying “BCG” the way you did for the entire video is wild.
Kak already did this. With way more rounds.
The real question is which BCG chose the bear or the man?
If it chose the bear, did we… dodge a bullet?
depends, is it bear season
Apparently my friend and his wife had a “long conversation” about the man vs. bear argument. I asked for her perspective and he didn’t acknowledge I asked about it. I think “long conversation” was code for a “fight”.
Sounds like this would go well with my 300blk pistol. Of course with subs, there’s no gas issue to be aware of, but with supers I definitely notice the gas
Thanks for your time doing the experiment dude.
Always seem to drop these videos at the perfect time. I was JUST eying their full chrome K spec bcg the other day.
I will say if you shoot suppressed a lot you should periodically shove a CLP soaked rag and work it inside the mag to wipe out the inside. I was having some pretty consistent feeding issues with older mags once the fouling built up a lot and cleaning them solved it.
Not the Hero we want, but the Hero we need
Hop has one of the best comments section on TH-cam. Change my mind.
Tism @7: 45 was crazy
We learned how to turn bullets purple. So don't say we didn't learn anything.
I just got one. Ran a few hundred rounds through it in a MK-12. I can tell a difference in the amount of gas coming back in my face from the AEM-5. No difference whatsoever so far in feeding/reliably. Only downside so far is the thing is hella expensive.
shit i might get one of those, the report is hella different
aww kitty
I still believe a decent buffer/gas busting charging handle beats any gimmick bcg any day in terms of suppressed gas venting.
Forgot to control for fouling that was created in the rifle by shooting the previous magazine. Should have 4 different rifles with same barrel length, same suppressor and then control. It would make the test more accurate
Jesus Christ
@@Hoplopfheil I'm just pointing out that for scientific accuracy you'd want to track the rifle fouling per round by pairing the rifle to the mag, allowing for no cross contamination between mags. And the only reason for pointing it out is for absurdities sake. No one actually expects you to do it Hop. We're sadists, yes, we're not quite that level of sadistic.
We did learn something. If we are hunting Barney, use the flow and make the tips purple :)
I’m still mad at Okay Industries for discontinuing a product they have made since the 60s all because they were worried about the look for investors.
Photos make seeing details easier in videos. For next time.
Just the tip... the purple tip.
Hop, doesn't age....Daywalker???
Night Stalker
When Hop said i feel like im wasting my time here,ni thought arent we all? Lol
Purple bullets is just a reflection of the oxidation state of the metal. Over-all I think your original hypothesis, that the amount of gas dumped from the bcg won't matter much, is correct. What I am curious about is how the K-spec and the downward venting would be affected, or affect a full-auto gun. I'm wondering if there is enough force to push rounds downward in the mag in a way that might affect feeding. I do not expect you to test this.
I came here for the random info
I left shopping for a FLOW556K
Hi I am from sunny Scotland, recently I purchased a spikes tactical 12 inch barrel straight pull(UK law ,no semi autos larger than.22lr😥) I have changed the fcg springs to JP ones,great improvement, getting a moderator (suppressor)any recommendations about what next to change,improve,fettle with,waste money etc,I will take some abuse about no gas parts ar,s,(be gentle)take note that I am probably one of a handful of ar(5.56mm) owners in Scotland,all the best to you crazy and wonderful Americans❤
I know less than nothing about the firearms market and laws in Scotland but I wish you the best!
Start Finasteride NOW brother, you will thank yourself for the rest of your life!
Thank you for your service
The Sneedful
Thank you Hop. Debunked.
Science, probably
Weird, it's almost like most guys on the internet haven't ever actually carried mags in mag pouches outside of their house and seen how dirty they get even bullets-down
What're you talking about ? This comment has absolutely nothing to do with the video lmao
@@vanielnewgenit kinda does but go off sis
@@bobthebuilder1360 this video: "does the KAK bolt carrier group cause more fouling of the magazine and magazine well than a mil spec bolt carrier group?". The guy I'm responding to: "bUlLeTs Get diRtY iN mAg PoUcHeS nO mATtER HoW yOu StOrE ThEm" how is it relevant again?
Thanks, hop for entertaining! That magwell is large on the flow 556 gun.
Doing this test without using clear lancers for mags feels like a major missed opportunity, imo.
I don't know why anybody would use Lancers unless it was for Reddit upvotes.
I totally appreciate the effort.
For science!
Great video.. my thoughts xactly.. not enough material for it to matter. Thanks Hop
Don't think we've seen Hop quite this irritated lol. Heard, maybe. Seen, don't think so...
Thanks, Hop!
I’m all in on KAK
I guess no one watched the PSR video when the K-Spec carrier came out…
I got to try my K-spec against my CMC three port carrier earlier and basically came to the conclusion that supressors just make everything dirtier anyway.
People are dumb to think it would’ve caused extra carbon onto the lower/mag it just proves nobody shoots their guns lol. I ran the K Spec for the past month and it’s ran extremely reliably.
🇺🇸
Thanks for the test!
Purple tips
I like my K spec enough I bought a second.
My rounds get filthy shooting suppressed. And yes, when its warm and dry out, the fouling isnt bad but when you have hot gas hit cold rounds in the stack, it tends to condensate and stick.
THEY'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE WATER TO TURN THE BULLETS PURPLE