What is Nothing Thinking?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2022
- Nothing announced the Nothing Ear(stick) earbuds, but Andrew has a quick rant first. Then him and David discuss some of the other true wireless options on the market.
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I love mine, but there has been so many times where one of them did not charge, I just assumed I was not getting it connected to the box properly.
There’s no way they are worth 50% more tho
@@Cryptum404 I agree.
So true, just bought pixel buds pro for my pixel 5 pro, screw Nothing man, not a game changer at all, at least not yet in my book
I had the same issue with mine before I lost them.
Why do you love a broken product thought. You literally admit that your product doesn't work several times but you live it???
That has never happened to my Sony
I've had the same issues since day one of owning the Ear (1)s. I've noticed that wiping off the metal contacts on the buds and in the case helps ensure that the earbuds disconnect and charge properly.
Seems like a pretty big oversight in the buds' engineering. I haven't had any issues like this with my Airpods Pro 2.
I have had this issue with the original Airpods Pro but it's usually just debris and dirty charging contacts.
I have this on my pixel buds all the time. I have to use a small wire (straw cleaner) brush and clean them every few weeks or i get this problem.
@@oliath yep. Same deal. No biggie though. I anticipated this issue before I even bought them.
ive had this issue but with my mi band 3/4/5. if i dont charge it for, say a week, the gold connection points for its charging develop a slight blackish layer on them after which it wont charge. wiping it with a cloth solves it, but if that doesnt do the trick i have to resort to using nail polish remover to clean it.
i feel its not an oversight but just cost cutting by using lower quality charging connectors.
i get it on my watches since they're
That happened to my airpod pro 1st gens only after 2 years of constant use, and even then it was fixable with isopropyl alcohol. The fact it is happening with these so quickly is…shit lol
i bought a pair used from amazon, it seems the previous owner had the same problem but i just scratched some grease off the contacts, and they work perfectly. honestly this is the kind of stuff that happens with the very first product of a company that is trying something new.
I've had the same exact issues across 3 different sets now. Warranty took ages for each set. All fully upgraded firmware. At least I can justify based on the price that they are good. $150 is crazy!
For running I use Aftershokz bone conduction earbuds. They work really well and don't block out sound.
I returned Nothing Ear 1 THREE times before finally getting different earbuds; two white and one black pair. I also had the charging issues but I could survive that. But twice, I had random connection issues when only one of them connected or these randomly disconnected in the middle of listening to music. And the third time, one of the earbuds completely died after a few weeks. Switched to Beats Fit Pro for a much higher price, but at least they sound better and I haven't had any issues 😄
The wings hurt me A LOT at the beginning, but my body adjusted to it after around a month of getting over the pain haha
Glad someone talked about this, my nothing ear 1s have the same issue and sometimes its so irritating that i wish to throw it out mah window! Its all bugs and after so many updates and days its still not fixed, i replaced my pair thrice
I've had them for a couple months pretty consistently and I've not had the charging issue. The only issue I've had is sometimes they cut out for half a second and sometimes show the wrong battery percentage. I've found them great!
I'm using Galaxy Buds Pro for a year now, and they are so great!
They are huge, so were pretty uncomfortable to wear at start, but after about few weeks, I got used to them, and now I wear them for hours, until they run out of charge (around 4 hours with ANC on).
The sound quality is excellent, along with the soundstage.
ANC is really good as well.
For the price they are really good since now the buds2 pro got released and the original buds pro got a price reduction
I got mine recently for $79 in India. Extreme Value for money.
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 They are better than the Bud 2 Pro anyway. The sound quality worsened and became less accurate. However, if you are spending that much, unless you want the water proofing, the Momentum 3 is the best sounding pair on market for not much more.
One of the headphones not charging happened to me multiple times, I've created a habit of double checking with led light and making sure they're pressed in the case. They also drop connection to reconnect straight away by themselves basically everyday. One earbud has worse battery life than the other, left comes to 10% when right one still has 30%, always the same story. Overall I still like them though and no regrets on getting them.
its bizarre, i have the exact same issues. Often one of them wont charge and i always double check now. And usually when one of them is at 10%, the other one is at 30%. but yeah they fit me great and theyre pretty small which i like. For 100 bucks theyre really good
My pixelbuds 2 never had that much difference in battery. Maybe a 5-10%* difference at most
@@Saluteme10288 the actual battery life is fine but the app will just say it's at 10% super early, they actually last as advertised. Which is a little low with anc but then again they're pretty small and charging is fast
lol u got scammed
Also problems with wind and ANC+Transparency
I got a pair of Pixelbuds pro with my Pixel 7 and I completely agree on the stem giving security.
I had a pair of LG Tone Free earbuds before this, which also had the sticks on them, and those were smaller and lighter while fitting more secure.
It was a genuine process of me having to get used to the pixepbuds and trusting them not to fall out when just walking, which they never did, but I shouldn't have to learn to trust earbuds to stay in. And it was also the only thing that made me want to return to my LG earbuds at all because they are inferior in every other sense.
Jaybird Vista I use these to run everyday. No issues with them coming out. The vista 2 is the newer version that added additional features. If I was spending my money on a new set I would get the vista 2. Just my thoughts. Good luck with whatever you pick for your new workout buds.
Galaxy Buds Pro2 are pretty great for fit, exercise, and even have decent ANC. I actually miss my wingtips from my Galaxy Buds+ though.
This connection inconsistency is the exact reason why Apple charges premium. My Airpods pro connect like magic. I wear right one all day long and the I pop in the left one like 20-30 times a day and have experienced zero issues till now. It’s super accurate and so comfortable and very light.
I've had a pair of Power Beats Pro, I used them every single day, When I saw the Beats Fit Pro came out i thought it would be a nice upgrade. I absolutely hated them. So much so I've gone back to my Power Beats Pro. The battery life is insane I charge them about once a week, get about 8 hours in my ears then they charge to 100% within 15 minutes. They are over the ear style so absolutely no chance of them falling out during workouts I 100% recommend
I have the same problem with my pair, I usually have to triple check that the buds are charging from the case and look at the led
There’s no way these headphones should even be talked about. Mediocre
I really like the Sony link buds for working out and running. Mostly so I can still hear what's going on around me with the open back.
Had the same issue, the way that I make it work it was to make sure that the earbuds were sitting right, like, pushing it against the case
The issue with having only one bud being at 100% and the other at like 10% is just something that can happen when the pins are not perfectly lined up in the case. Had this "problem" several times with even my AirPods Pro that my right one was at 100% but the left one was at 7% because it wasn't charging correctly.
This problem literally happens on EVERY earbud. It happens to my MTW3, xm4 and technics az60. ESPECIALLY when I sweat
@@MelloHubb exactly. It only "doesn't" happen when the earbuds don't report the battery for each bud. And that way you just don't see it but it still happens
After going to AirPod pro 2nd gen I doubt I will use anything else for a very long time, they are quite literally perfection.
Lol
I've had the same issue a few times. Also sometimes the buds remain connected even when in the case. Weird
It's Chinese Magic 😂
Now it's all the time for me
@@Anankin12 try to clean the contacts with isopropyl alcohol
@@DrCarter33 yeah, but that won't fix a Bluetooth connection lol
@@Anankin12 the buds remain connected if the connection with the case is not detected. So
I was really excited to try out the ear 1's, and just like they mentioned in the video the sound was mid, at least for me. I've grown accustomed to a certain type of sound form my buds and one thing that kept happening to me was having to change the eq everything i put the buds back in the case, like i would have to go on the app every time i wanted to use them in order for them to be on my preferred eq and that was very annoying.
That’s… remarkably lazy of them and you lmao
@@paulcarmi8130 I mean I had 30 euro headphones that remembered my preferred eq setting I don’t see why a 99 euro pair couldn’t do that. Trust me it wasn’t lazy, it just became annoying very quick having to open the app and do that instead of just popping the buds in and listening to music.
@@davidalxndr After switching eq, eq will be saved in the earbuds, ear 1 and ear stick are like this......If it can't be saved, it may be bugs?
10:37 Great running earbuds are Ultimate Ears. They're the only in-ear true wireless buds that don't fall out of my ears or at least lose their seal every five seconds. I can even eat with them in, which I can't say about any other true wireless I've used. They're not the most refined product, though.
jabra Elite ones too stay in ear with better grip. They mentioned it as feature. Sound good too. Much underrated brand with good quality product.
Had this issue where one of the earphones had no charge while the other had 100%. The reason is the design where the contact points do not charge until they are pressed to the expected level. So take the earphone that has less charge out of the case and let it snap magnetically like 2 mm from the contact points on its own. Just press them down into the contact points for a bit and leave for like 15 minutes and then they will be charged.
I actually found a neat trick to listen to music without any charging problems, syncing hiccups, or connection issues, and it improved the audio/mic quality! I got wired headphones and a USB-C to headphone jack dongle
My AirPods Pro did this thing where i would charge the case and it would supposedly be at 100% but my AirPods wouldn’t charge when they were inside. They would only charge if the case was connected to power. Seemed kind of similar but I doubt it’s the same problem as the nothing ear 1’s my case was probably just broken somehow
I’ve had not charging issues with my AirPods Pro in the last year or so, but they’re 2.5 years old and I’ve used them a ton
These issues are common with most TWS. My sony WF-1000mx4s don't charge currently, get hot constantly and barely run for 1 hour if I turn noise-cancelling and LDAC on (Before this, they would run for 5 hours straight, sometimes even more in the same setup). This happened 7 months in and because I moved to another country, claiming my warrrenty has been hard. Now I use anker p3i more often, at-lease when they die, I can by a new pair and not be sad. 250 USD in the county where I live, is nearly a months wage (Not for me but giving an example).
No love for the Pixel Buds Pro? Switched to them from the LG Tone Free FP8s and I've been really happy with them. First time that a bud with that style stay security in my ears (workouts and all), also love the little ecosystem features I get paring them with my pixel phone. I'm also someone with small ears and I always prioritize fit over everything else with buds.
Mine has the same issue and I had to come up with a fix…charge the case first, disconnect then place the earbuds in the case then it works”flawlessly”
Never had the charging issue, but sometimes my touchpads don't work on them. Usually putting it back in the case and taking it out again fixes it, no idea why
Jaybird Vista 2s are the best combo of fit and features. ANC, and transparency mode. Don't wiggle when running, and great sound and app.
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I love the sound of Jaybirds and the app but have issues with the wing tips. I’ve been wearing Beats Pro to run. Still have a pair of Bose wireless that I love to run in.
I have the exact same issue! Left buds won't charge. Started happening last week 🤦♂️
Contacted Nothing and they told me they don't have the Ear(1)s in stock, so they'll have to replace mine with an Ear Stick. The alternative was to opt for a 15% store discount. I am lost for words. Terrible support
I got mine for 99€ and I love them. They work quite fine. I'm actually impressed by the audio and noice cancellation. I hope they won't get into the same issues you got. But now I am warned it could happen :)
same for me
When you have Android, use Wavelet with Auto EQ for these Nothing. That improves the sound a lot on my Ear 1.
Project Auto EQ is so great, use it for every supported audio device. My Sennheiser HD58x also sounds a lot better with it.
Mine are working perfectly fine
Never have I ever had this issue. One issue I faced though was, music stops in between often which I am assuming due to my long hair touching the surface of nothing ear buds or it can be a proximity bug, which kind of acting as if I have not plugged them properly into my ears, which I have.
Was not facing the issue before recent firmware update. it was absolutely weird.
What you are facing is clearly a manufacturing defect.
Bought two pairs of them (black and white). The white ones that I've had since pretty much launch day always seem to never connect when I put the left one in first so I've kind of learned to start with the right one as a habit. They also struggle with touch sensitivity, sometimes registering an additional tap to pause when I'm only adjusting them or missing the third tap when I'm trying to skip.
As for the black ones, one of them recently had a driver die on me suddenly. The volume was constantly around 50% lower than the other earbud, making both together essentially unusable. I returned that pair last week which is a shame because I really liked the look of the matte blacks over the glossy whites.
Overall, not the greatest earbuds but at $100 they at least had the price/quality ratio going for them. There are better alternatives out there once you get to 150
David should consider trying some Jabra earbuds for running. I've had great luck with the fit of the Elite Active 65t and Elite 7 Active staying in my ear well for running up to full marathon distance
I tried Jabra Elite 4 Active and my ears were screaming of pain.
For some reason they didn't fit at all even when trying different eartips.
So I decided to buy Nothing Ear 1 and they fit a lot better, they still hurt me after some time tho.
I come from wired sony wired earphones that were just so comfortable and I never felt them in my ears.
My probably with TWS earbuds is their size they're always big 😔
I've had similar problems with my old headphones (1more ColorBuds). (The problems with charging and they were connecting while in a closed case)
The same thing happens with my Airpods Pro's Originals, Happens pretty frequently. Maybe once a week.
ive had this issue but with my mi band 3/4/5. if i dont charge it for, say a week, the gold connection points for its charging develop a slight blackish layer on them after which it wont charge. wiping it with a cloth solves it, but if that doesnt do the trick i have to resort to using nail polish remover to clean it.
i feel its not an oversight but just cost cutting by using lower quality charging connectors.
The Sony Linkbuds (with the donut speakers) are my running/cycling buds. That and ye olde Porta Pros.
Having the same issues. Love the buds, hate the bugs.
When I had the Ear 1s, they worked for like a month, then gradually started to get buggier and buggier until they became unusable. They would never connect, they would constantly disconnect, and the noise cancelling would always seemingly change profiles when on the bus, which was super annoying. The fit in my ear wasn't good enough, and the sound quality was so bad for me, that I just ditched them for the Galaxy Buds 2 (that I got on sale for $100 on amazon), and have never looked back. The fact that Nothing still hasn't fixed the connection issues is absurd, and I will never recommend them ever again, especially with the price increase. The only good thing about them was that they looked cool. But the case was a scratch magnet as well and looked awful...
2:11 facing the same issue brother, I feel your pain
I had them too. They broke down on me after 6 months... The had interruptions, bad Base and not great runtime. Sometimes they also don't connect to the case. Switched to pixel buds pro and I'm happy now. Really can't recommend, if you not only in for the optics, cuz that's their only real strong point..
I have to use the Powerbeats Pro with the earhook for workouts. I hate the standard truly wireless bud for exercising because they always come loose from sweat and movement. But for standard use, I still use the Sony WF-1000XM3 and Galaxy Buds 2.
Powerbeats Pro are the best for sports... that's THE design that really takes sports, especially high intensity ones involving a lot of dynamic moves, really into consideration. I keep coming back to them, had three pairs: no touch panels that get messed up when you break into a sweat, no wobbling around, no falling off, decent sound, no painful pressure from wings... The only downsides are the case and connection pins, which aren't really reliable and sometimes you just end up with a dead bud, and some connectivity issue with one bud connecting to your phone and the other one staying silent (which is easily solved by putting in back in the case and taking out again)
They should definitely update them with ANC and the latest tech, but the design is just the absolute best
I would clean the metal connectors on both the phone and the case, whenever this happens to the Airpods Pro that's the culprit usually. Also at the gym there is a lot of interference because Bluetooth is an obsolete technology. Outside of the gym TWS work like magic.
I got the app2s on sale for i think 225 or so on amazon but after gift cards down to 160. I like them but after using them a while I question the value but was in desperate need of new earbuds. The anc pressure feeling is odd but I suppose I'll get used to it. The bass is nice and the tones are full and punchy but I guess my expectation for spatial audio feeling like it should be 360 degree sound was set too high. They sound nice but TLDR: Sound good, bass good, ANC decent for reducing but not eliminating external sound, spatial audio = gimmick
Y'all are missing out on on good buds try the Jaybird Vista 2 . Premium build quality and strength. Premium software in equalizer and phone app. Been using them for running and lifting weights for years.
I was thinking about buying some new ones since I lost my old ones. They fit my ears the best, but I don't want to pay more money for something that's THAT bugged.
I had the same issues with my first pair of pixel buds, for the first few months everything was fine but then they started being at like 1% when I woke up in the morning. Turned out there was a manufacturing defect with the case and if they weren't aligned *perfectly* they just wouldn't charge. Luckily they refunded me them and everything is fine now, but it did make me very annoyed.
Best heavy duty active earbuds, Jaybird Vista 2's they have wings but they're the only ones that don't hurt my sensitive ears.
Maybe you could try the Pixel buds Pro, I also run, and at least for me they feeling really secure in my ears
that left earbud at 10% charge is with me as well. They just won't charge, and will still be available to connect with mobile even when the case is closed.
I run cross country and i love my airpod pros for that, the only problem is for super long runs when I'm super sweaty they slip a teeny bit but not an awful problem. I also use an android and don't have any issues though
That always happens to me , that is it's only problem honestly, at 99$ they were hands down the best value, and I believe they still worth 150 if this isssue didn't exist and also they had better battery in general
They ain't worth 150, you literally can't use anc nor transparency if you're on a bike or just in the wind because the slightest wind noise will turn those features off.
Like not change the settings, they just stop working.
Also considering what they cost to manufacture and develop, nothing above 90 can be justified in any of these. Remember when the 100$ and 150$ airpods where the "rich kid's" pods?
I have literally the same issue and I have no clue how to fix it. Even after I put the buds back in my case my left ear bud does not want to disconnect to my phone which in turn does not get charged and I end up waking up to a case 100% right 100% and left 10%. I was thinking my specific piece was the issue but now I know it is a wide spread issue and nothing surely needs to fix this before they release the stick 1 and more importantly before they bump the price up to whatever number that comes to their mind first.
Ditched mine because of this problem. Case 100, left 100, right 0. The temp fix was to hold the connect button on the case for 30 seconds then wait for the right bud to charge. But having to do that EVERY time was a huge PITA. So toss.
I had mine since release, I haven't got that issue but I have the same weird connection message popping up even when the case is closed. Also, my bluetooth connection is pretty bad, when I'm walking around with my phone in my pocket it cuts out every 5-10 min. I can advise using Wavelet with project Auto Eq on Android, which improves the sound a lot.
Still, they don't sound great, ANC is meh and transparency doesn't sound great but fit is good. For 99€ its okay, they were on sale for 60€ that's great value but for 150€ there are better options on the market.
my airpod pros had the same random connecting issue. my macbook or phone audio would switch to my airpod pros (in the case).
I got the beats for pros, love the hell out of them but it also hurt to wear but I have forced through it and it doesn’t hurt anymore
Anker Soundcore X10 is great for running. They sound good as well
LG tone free fp8 / 9 zero issues so far but i have to turn off ANC off while running in wind because it makes sounds
I wear my APP all the time, they are just right. Had the issue on less % on one bud once, but that's it... It resolved itself.
Love my ear (1), but only for them cos they were on amazon for 60 quid. They did survive a trip through the washing machine though...
Funny i bought the black ones as soon as they released and they been working perfect never had an issue and its been a year already
I am really happy with the Powerbeats Pro. Nice long battery and good sound. ANC is not needed as they seal good and still are comfortable. I wear them all day long at work.
And when I really want good sound I have the over ear Sony WH-1000X mk iii
Same for me. I could not connect to any device with the buds and they would not charge properly. I trashed mine as it was very frustrating...
Since you have Adam (OG from SoundGuys), maybe you guys should start a new segment for earbuds/headphones review with the use the earphone gizmo you've shown last Aug 29 Waveform out-throw. 😉👌
you can change AirPods between cases, how would apple be able to do warranty exchanges if there wasn't a way to change them out? Just have to go through a pairing process.
Im also experiencing the same problem with my ear 1s
I think cleaning the contacts on buds and case and resetting the buds can solve this issue, I have ear 1s and encounered this issue once or twice
FINALLY THIS HAPPENED TO SOMEONE BUT MYSELF. Man this happens literally EVERY DAY I charge them man, really pissing me off
The anker soundcore spirit 2 would be good for working out in because they hook over your ears
i got myne at prime day for just 60$ and i love them, nearly everything works so far
Did you do the recent updates? Nothing gets updates regularly
Hi, anyone know what the jacket is that David is wearing? love it!
I feel like for running, I prefer powerbeats pro, it wraps around your ear, and absolutely nothing can yank it out of your head.
ive used them on both my v20 and pixel 6 and have had them since release, i havent had any weird battery drain
For me I just have a pair of 20 pound buds for me it's just for walking long distances,but I'm in the market for a new pair been looking at the pixel buds or galaxy buds.
i have the same issues on my ear 1 as well, but only on the RIGHT bud. you need to charge the right bud in the case with the door open. remove the bud thats at 100%
I have a set of Oneplus Buds Z, Sony XM3s and Pixel Buds A. I like the PBAs the most because the case fits in my pocket the easiest and they sound very good for the price I paid ($79). Pairing is always easy and they always charge properly. The Buds Z sound great for calls, but mediocre for music. They stay charging in the case but they only get 3 hours of battery life. The Sony's sound great, but not $280 great, the case is bulky af, and the power on/connected dialogue is obnoxiously long, causing me to miss the beginning of convos when i connect them.
I had the same problem with my realme buds. Got it replaced and one month later the same problem. I guess it's got something to do with one earbud not turning off inside the case and drains its battery.
I've seen this issue with wireless buds where if the magnetic contacts are dirty, or if the buds are not sitting perfectly on the magnets, the buds won't charge. I wonder if that's the 10% problem you were experiencing.
I have the One Plus Buds Pro, and they also stop randomly. The skin sensor is so sensitive, especially if I'm working out. Very frustrating.
Carl Pei likes hype and will do everything for this.
You are right about the price 🤷🏻
And if you noticed the release the new tws on the same day they increase the price of the first tws
I had the same issue about charging, in my case it wasn't firmware, I noticed sometimes that even tho they seemed placed well in the case, sometimes the pins were not properly aligned so they were not charging
I’ve had the same problem
If you like the style of airpods but don't want to buy airpods you should try out denon ah-c830. I have them, because to me this style of earbuds is also the most comfortable for any kind of activity. No issues up until now, have them almost a year by now and they work great with my pixel. My issues would be: ANC is ok, but not great, no wireless charging, would love it if they had more bass.
Try the Jabra Elite Active 7 for running. Small and great fit.
Ive missed out on this wave of in ear wireless headphones, my ears get sweaty really fast and my skin is sensitive, the sweat leads quickly to soreness and sometimes pimples in my ears. So I always have to use over ear and around ear headphones.
never had any charging problems at all. think i'll get a black pair since the price goes up tomorrow
Try the senheisser earbud I love the media control
The same happened with me! And I have an iPhone 12 and my friend at college has an android, he once connected to my ear 1’s and now whenever his Bluetooth is on, they won’t connect to my iPhone, then I’ll have turn off Bluetooth on his phone and he keeps Turning it on to annoy me😂😂
I have a nothing ear 1 so even that has issues with left bud staying at 10%
my nothing 1 give the "couldn't connect to nothing ear 1" promt every 5 min. and the earbuds are in the case not being used. also in the app it will not update the battery percentage of the esrbuds, it would show 100% when battery is draining.
I have the exact same issues but on my AirPods Pro for some reason, apple told me its my phones fault (android), which of course they would say that but honestly what else is there to blame.
You guys tried the Soundcore Space A40's?
That like button broke my mouse, and I want to avail the return policy.
Sony Linkbuds are great for running (and skating) they fit me very well and the don't get in the way of using a helmet. Open design is great for exercise... But you have little bass and no NC