@@KcClips That Srila Prabhupada wanted his movement to be ritvik? Basically yes, but, i have to explain certain things. th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=iskcon+ritvik+debate+san+deigo There is 2 parts to this ritvik debate video from early 90'ies. BTW I'd also say the ritviks destroy the "11 guru advocates" in this debate. Here in, Yasomatinandan claims that Prabhupada, in detail, explained the ritvik system, and that it was all recorded, but that it wasn’t made available to the common devotee. You know the July 9th letter? The one that details the way of ritvik initiations, which was made because Prabhupada was unable to initiate everyone who requested it of him, which has no mention of ending, and which actually does say it is supposed to continue indefinitely. Well, I can tell you that no temple presidents ever received that letter, even though they were supposed to have received it. This form of ritvik initiation was already functioning before then, from 1972 or something, but in the end, Prabhupada became completely unable to the ceremony, and so the system had to be established on paper. iskcon-truth.com/ritvik-letter-july9th.html Here is that July 9th letter. They analyze it pretty well also. harekrsna.org/pada/documents/will.htm Here is something about who would own the different buildings, from 1977. The interesting part is that here, Girriraj Swami formulates it and writes it down and reads it to Prabhupada. Here is a phrase of the signed document, with my emphasis: “provided the new director is MY initiated disciple following strictly all the rules and regulations of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness as detailed in my books…” This was not the original wording, Girriraj wrote “an initiated disciple” but Prabhupada changed it to “my”. That’s a sure indicator of how Prabhupada wanted his society to run. I got on a bit of sidetrack, but the thing I wanted to say about those missing tapes on the ritvik system is that, who the hell knows what went on back then. Others say that Prabhupada authorized Gaur-Govinda Swami and Radha-Govinda Swami to be the Gurus of Iskcon. Guru-Kripa Prabhu says he was directly nominated by Prabhupad to be one of those ritviks, but those 11 knew they were gonna take over as gurus, and because Guru-Kripa didn’t want to have anything to do with that, he was left out. So who knows? I’m an advocator of the original book btw. But even here, there is a problem. You know, the last part of Srimad Bhagavatam that Prabhupad spoke, 13th chapter, that got published 3 FREAKING YEARS AFTER PRABHUPADS DEATH. They had a loooong time to edit that. Who knows what Prabhupada was saying in those days? Have you heard of all those interviews which was done on Prabhupada-disciples to make the Prabhupada-lilamrita? Recordings worth tens of thousands of pages were made, but they are all gone. Although I don’t exactly know what happened, Ramesvaras interviews re-earthed, as transcriptions. They show a lot about how Prabhupada didn’t want any changes made to his books. www.govindadasi.com/ramesvara-das-interview-1979.html More could be said, but I don’t want to sit and write all day. Hare Krsna.
Pranams, thank you for uploading. i'm just starting to get interested in Aindras bhajan ragas and rasas in order to hear them at the right time of the day and to understand them better. Please would you be so kind to write to me which raga and rasa this is about?
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This is an excellent initiative. Devotees need to listen more and more of him. This Kirtan is the life and soul of the Hare Krsna Movement.
3:01
"Damodar Prabhu why don't you come join the Kirtan Party " 😃🙏🏻☺️
All i need is just this kirtan.
JAI JAI SHREE SHREE GURU-SHISHYA PARAMPARA
JAI JAI SRILA A.C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA
JAI JAI SRILA NAMA-ANANDI AINDRA PRABHUPADA
Hare Rama 😢😢 ❤❤❤
Jaya aindra prabhu 🙏🙏
Hare Krishna 🙏🙏
Sri Radhe ✨
Another one of Aindras wonderful and direct expressions at 24:53
What's the transcription of that, I don't get that line..?
@@KcClips One guy sings poorly, and then Aindra says: "You sound like a chicken with your head cut off." Then he laughs a little afterwards :)
@@nitaistrange112 Hare Kṛṣṇa dear Prabhu 🙏
I saw your comment in one of Rtvik video, do you accept that Śrīla Prabhupāda wanted it, ?
@@KcClips That Srila Prabhupada wanted his movement to be ritvik? Basically yes, but, i have to explain certain things.
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=iskcon+ritvik+debate+san+deigo
There is 2 parts to this ritvik debate video from early 90'ies. BTW I'd also say the ritviks destroy the "11 guru advocates" in this debate.
Here in, Yasomatinandan claims that Prabhupada, in detail, explained the ritvik system, and that it was all recorded, but that it wasn’t made available to the common devotee. You know the July 9th letter? The one that details the way of ritvik initiations, which was made because Prabhupada was unable to initiate everyone who requested it of him, which has no mention of ending, and which actually does say it is supposed to continue indefinitely. Well, I can tell you that no temple presidents ever received that letter, even though they were supposed to have received it. This form of ritvik initiation was already functioning before then, from 1972 or something, but in the end, Prabhupada became completely unable to the ceremony, and so the system had to be established on paper.
iskcon-truth.com/ritvik-letter-july9th.html
Here is that July 9th letter. They analyze it pretty well also.
harekrsna.org/pada/documents/will.htm
Here is something about who would own the different buildings, from 1977. The interesting part is that here, Girriraj Swami formulates it and writes it down and reads it to Prabhupada. Here is a phrase of the signed document, with my emphasis:
“provided the new director is MY initiated disciple following strictly all the rules and regulations of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness as detailed in my books…”
This was not the original wording, Girriraj wrote “an initiated disciple” but Prabhupada changed it to “my”. That’s a sure indicator of how Prabhupada wanted his society to run.
I got on a bit of sidetrack, but the thing I wanted to say about those missing tapes on the ritvik system is that, who the hell knows what went on back then. Others say that Prabhupada authorized Gaur-Govinda Swami and Radha-Govinda Swami to be the Gurus of Iskcon. Guru-Kripa Prabhu says he was directly nominated by Prabhupad to be one of those ritviks, but those 11 knew they were gonna take over as gurus, and because Guru-Kripa didn’t want to have anything to do with that, he was left out. So who knows?
I’m an advocator of the original book btw. But even here, there is a problem. You know, the last part of Srimad Bhagavatam that Prabhupad spoke, 13th chapter, that got published 3 FREAKING YEARS AFTER PRABHUPADS DEATH. They had a loooong time to edit that. Who knows what Prabhupada was saying in those days?
Have you heard of all those interviews which was done on Prabhupada-disciples to make the Prabhupada-lilamrita? Recordings worth tens of thousands of pages were made, but they are all gone.
Although I don’t exactly know what happened, Ramesvaras interviews re-earthed, as transcriptions. They show a lot about how Prabhupada didn’t want any changes made to his books.
www.govindadasi.com/ramesvara-das-interview-1979.html
More could be said, but I don’t want to sit and write all day.
Hare Krsna.
Jaiii ho! 🔥
Charukeshi raag at the beginning
Jai
Pranams, thank you for uploading. i'm just starting to get interested in Aindras bhajan ragas and rasas in order to hear them at the right time of the day and to understand them better. Please would you be so kind to write to me which raga and rasa this is about?