The fact that he got hired as a cop after being in a gang is wild. You can't even become a cop with a DUI. And obviously the NYPD knew, it would have been very relevant to his work in Chinatown. Genuinely curious how how he became a cop after admitting to crimes
For real. And how is he able to walk streets and not be scared of his former gang members putting a hit on him? Sounds like a shady cop still working with the gangs
@@cpcxgsr Sounds like you're trolling and speculating baselessly, using a heavily edited 16-minute video/interview to jump to conclusions about decades of a convoluted life that included both trouble and triumph. Whether he is or not, you don't know, and I don't know. When these interviews aren't censored or redacted, it's because the parties involved have determined to the best of their ability that the information is no longer current, relevant, or sensitive enough to pose a threat. Whether that's 99.9% or 100% true, we as 3rd parties can't make that determination. The interviewee looks like his gang-related phase was probably 30-40-ish years ago. He talked about the NYC gang scene in the 90s. The only former gang member I've known told me that most of his circle of former friends were dead or in prison (not just from gang stuff -- also just being dumb and reckless like OD, fatal DUI), at a point about 7 years after he finished his own sentence. And by 10-20 years after, the survivors had all burned out and stuck to laying low and living quietly -- pest exterminator moonlighting as comic book artist, electrician who married an ex-stripper old flame that had someone else's kid, small local bar bouncer, etc. A common theme I observed was that they all settled for what was within easy reach, after years of turbulence and d!ck-measuring. So after 30+ years, none of it really matters any more, to some of these people. Unsurprisingly, the majority of real stories don't end up as Jason Statham revenge stories (though he plays in consistently pretty good B movies).
It is ironic that he joined a gang because he was bullied in school, Then quits the NYPD becuse he was bullied there, So, when he was a gang member, he got more respect than when he was a policeman. Well, regardless, he did the right thing by getting out of the gang. Best of luck to him.
@@BigBadJerryRogers cops now are just thugs sanctioned by the law. Deputy gangs are just a manifestation of this shift into thuggery. On top of that most detectives now have room temperature IQ's.
I was fascinated by the entire video but I just love the goofy moment at 8:00 where Mike talks about how the media portrays onionhead as some dark/foreboding nickname about making people cry and he's just like "Nah his head looked like an onion that's why we called him that lmao"
Reminds me of a scene from Snatch: Tony: "Boris the Blade? As in Boris the Bullet Dodger?" Avi: "Why do they call him the 'Bullet Dodger'?" Tony: "Because he dodges bullets, Avi..."
Chinese nicknames are very straightforward and simple. People want to add some mysticism, lore to it, but I remember that all the nicknames in my family and are very funny: old fat, fat boi, skinny ghost, pumpkin, big head, dead dog/cat, etc 😂
Reminds me of when Michael Franzese talked about his former friends never being original about the nicknames. Like Fat Tony, why call him Fat Tony? Because he was fat. Why call a guy Chickenhead? Because that guy would shoot heads out of chickens during marksmanship practice.
Pointing out that in many societies across the world unless you are part of that culture you will not be allowed to participate in certain aspects of that society. Fairly obvious really. I guess being smart isn’t your thing. Also, unless you are Chinese you can never be a Chinese citizen. But the hypocrites in the comments will never acknowledge this lmaooo
Facts yoh live this life and you get older and realize the amount of people you've hurt and you don't wanna do this things anymore but stay prepped for when karma hits
@@anthonychan3336 No mr chinaman, he meant the Italian mobsters. He talks about it in his podcast how Chinatown stores were significantly extorted by the Italians. He joined a gang at the age of 15 in High School because like most Chinese back then, they were racially bullied. He felt joining a gang could protect his own community from the Italians and would later commit more serious crimes in retaliation.
I appreciate the insight, especially the small part about extortion and how money flowed throughout the community. As for his time living in two different worlds, it's sad that he had more respect and support as a gang member than a police officer.
A good mate of mine, fellow trucker, told me about a crazy experience he had in Chinatown in San Francisco. Let me tell you, those gangsters are no joke. Guns, swords, human trafficking and stuff you wouldn't even believe. You gotta fight to survive down there, gotta look that big ol storm right square in the eye and say "give me your best shot pal, I can take it." Great video.
Dude where I live its common knowledge like 'don't run with scissors', NEVER to dine-and-dash from a Chinese restaurant because the entire kitchen will chase after you with knives!
I had a friend in the early 90s who was hanging out and dating these gang members. She took us to underground dance halls where the gang members hung out. I was in high school and was naive and curious. Thank goodness it was very short lived for me. I was a good girl so never really felt comfortable in that environment. I later came ro despise these gangs for the fear they instilled in the regular citizens in Chinatown.
He’s right about those tunnels. I’ve personally been in those tunnels in Chinatown/little Italy. There is a private elevator on Mott street that can take you down to the basement with the tunnels. There are 3 or 4 different basement levels and you can go down the elevator in Mott street, then take the tunnel till you see steps, and come up the steps a few blocks over.
@@blackholesun4942 this was in 2006. No video evidence since camera phones were just coming out at that time, but no video phones. If you’re in NYC just go to grand street and Mott street, as well as grand and mulberry. There are two elevators on those streets that go down. You will probably see a Chinese guy just sitting on a chair outside of a building somewhere halfway down the street towards Broome street and they will be in your left.
Some private sellers will take you down there for the high quality counterfeit luxury items. My cousin went down there once very naively since she wasn’t from the city.
@@tinaspiceMy cousin went to buy a fake bag in Chinatown and they had a door in the wall they led to 4 doors 🚪 that the owner had to crawl in just to get her the bag
Growing up in the 'ghetto' as a chinese kid (half chinese, but raised by single chinese mother and look way more chinese than the other half) and bullied so much i totally see the temptation to join these gangs, I met triads later in my life who had changed their ways and they told me i 100% would have been recruited in the gang if they werent all locked up. The chinese gangs are long gone here in London now (Or are at least more hidden in the shadows than before), but if i had the chance back then i probably would have joined.
it is better to be alone and find your path than join a gang. it is not easy to understand that as a young child or adolescent late teen or early 20s but it is better to go it alone in life and grow yourself...
@@classic-superette When you're really young (teenager/20s) you don't really understand how much cumulative damage these kinds of decisions have for the rest of your life. It's better to be safe than sorry...
Glad this video is back up!! Super interesting. Especially if you’re interested in the New York Italian mob. It’s cool to hear his accents clash. That strong New York accent with his Chinese accent. Lol
It doesn’t matter the race or country. All real gangsters have the same eyes, those cold calculating eyes. You see them once in person and you never forget
Yeah you see it in peoples that go through trauma too or have low trust. I talk to some of my friends and they’re always looking around, talking very deliberately, holding eye contact; it’s like they’re studying you intensely; like hyper alert all the time I guess that’s what you have to do to survive if you’re in or from an area with high crime rate/gangs or just poverty in general
yes because it is already ingrained into their mind, like a second instinct, a given... That the person standing in front of them (animal in their eyes), will act erratically, given the right chance right condition. The most horrible thing is: they just apply this whole thought to anyone by default: - you as human, could act against your feeling/emotion in split second just for any reason. So, whatever you said / act could totally contradict to how you truly feel/think inside.... (by act, i mean acts that require you to sacrifice your life/emotion/dignity .... that kind of great importance and high emotion burden thing ) To survive in their world, you must internalize the fact that even a person who gained hard earned trust from you could turn you in any second. Not to mention the betrayals and information that withheld from you by your closed one. (Like a paranoid spy at this point, sbt) every man for himself- with that icy cold eyes as the only witness.
One of the guys that's a regular on Michael's TH-cam channel, his name is Kenny, he's talked about some of his interactions with the older Italian mafia guys in one of the interviews. You should look it up.
Mike is really a good man. His channel on TH-cam is very informative. I haven’t ever been to NYC but I’d like to visit, just to see some of the places he talks about 😊
I totally bought those tapes, and learned a lot as a competitive full contact Chinese martial arts fighter. Thank you so much! Sure, compared to someone from China, I was nothing, but I really loved it.
Grew up in the 90s and was pretty close in doing the blood wine ritual to be a soldier but just liked art too much and went to art school. Crazy to think what my life would be like if I went forward with it.
@@Asian_KidWas born in 93 and have been in Chinatown a lot, nothing happened much in the early 2000s. If you mean 80s when my mom grew up, you don't want to be. She was a high schooler and said someone ended up dying every week. Go to the wrong block, you'll get shot because you don't belong there
It's interesting to see how crime also has a culture. Each crime organization, though they are all gangs, serve very different purposes depending on the culture that created them and operate very differently. Some gangs operate with organized crime as their primary purpose, and as such tend to avoid the spotlight and have multiple streams of revenue. Those gangs also end up being the most notorious and the most deadly, because they have the most to lose. Others were born out of a sense of rebellion or to fill a power vacuum, and as such may be more brazen in their activity, focused on making a name for themselves and trying to take power from those who they feel have it. Some have a sort of symbiotic relationship with their community while others are openly hated. But what is consistent is that gangs and organized crime groups tend to be the most active in their own communities.
I find the ethics of these gang videos fascinating. Here you have individuals talking about their past lives of inflicting pain and misery on innocent people for profit, like a retired pro athlete reflecting on their glory days. And now they are profiting from these stories via Business Insider and promo of their own TH-cam channels! Majority of commenters applauding them for being articulate, authentic, blah blah blah. Some food for thought.
Learning new things every day. Great insight into the different gangs and how they were part of varying/competing syndicates, not one cohesive group... sounds like geopolitics!
Not going to lie, his last bit about Big brother's watching basically said the only reason not to be in gangs is the fact that you will get caught easier. My guess this guy would be in a gang or lead a gang if he wasn't able to be caught.
Half of that is today's gang members snitching on themselves. A lot harder to fight a drug dealing/smuggling charge when you take a selfie with a brick of coke, stack of cash, and a Glock. The other half is your homies fingering you to get out of their charge or your gang making the neighborhood such a mess the locals won't stick up for you.
It is kind of funny that you can have a few youthful misdemeanors (my female cousin, a prison therapist & addiction counselor ironically, had like 3 for peeing in public - college drinking days, & peeing outside really isn’t a big deal in the rural west) or a massive criminal history in a big money area of crime, but no in-betweeners! They want the high level people in any form of organized crime, even tho they know he gave outdated info. That’s why he’s alive, typically it’s not worth it to kill him because he gave background info but nothing directly related to the year he joined the NYPD. If he gave actionable intel, he’d be Wit Sec. Very few people want to be in Wit Sec so the PDs settle for reformed criminals with slightly old info.
@darren6458I don't think anyone has said that about the police department there or most anywhere else. This is just yet another example of how police reform remains necessary and a neverending process of oversight. Support the police but certainly not without accountability
I knew one of his associates. He lived next door to me in Sunset Park around the mid 90s. Looked like a normal dude, you could mistake him for an accountant or some finance guy. One night, feds just showed up and raided his home then took him out in cuffs. Don't know what happened to him afterwards. Only knew this because the corner store guy told me he ran the entire neighborhood with heroin.
glad to hear your remarkable true story Mr. Moy amazing how you made wise changes in your life career, which was a good one, its sad after you made it and put so many years in the NYPD that even then you had to face racism, but after 20 years you left and still got your benefits they owed you, glad you made it successfully myself know about racism for i am an African American born here and faced racism many times but stayed clear as much as possible from this ignorance in my 69 years of life. stayed away from all gangs and underground life too, and i know your true stories will help many young Asian and all races of kids avoid that deadly low class Gantsa life, my son is in jail now doing 25 years to life because he said he wanted to be a gangster but now he see that life is not like he thought!!! KEEP SHAREING THESE GOOD TRUE VIDEO STORIES WITH US TO SHOW YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OR ANY WHO WANT TO ENTER THAT DARK WORLD THATTHE DEEPER THEY GO INTO THAT WORLD THE DARKER IT GETS!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND FAMILY MR MOY
Thank you for sharing your story and words of wisdom. I’m sorry to hear about your son. He already made the first step to be a better person by realizing his mistake.
Agreed, though I hesitate to use the word documentary :), as the overwhelming majority of them are misinformed bunk. I've always loved history, and the rise of the amateur youtube historian has really opened my eyes on how many of the documentaries I used to love were just plain fantasy. I respect him for telling stories from his youth, and correcting the misinformation the media taught us.
for anyone who hasn’t seen it i recommend “YEAR OF THE DRAGON” (1985) dir by michael cimino from a screenplay by him, oliver stone & robert daley (who wrote the book). if for no other reason than to be introduced to john lone, victor wong & dennis dun. i do believe it may have been raymond j. barry’s (“justified”) 1st big screen appearance. hollywood horseplay ofc but overall quite engaging. john lone was phenomenal & is sorely missed by those who appreciated him.
@@Biscuitolivia3561 Yeah, the triad(s) are a distinct group that formed as a criminal element resisting the Qing dynasty. Of course, they didn't disband when the Qing fell, so continued to accumulate power. The vast majority of Chinatown gangs had loose connection to the triad at best, with elements like the Tong faction controlling a lot.
The kind of charm & likability this guy must have, to be a cop in his old stomping grounds - and then, to quit & make a channel featuring old gang members… he must’ve been a cat living out his 9 lives, is what I’m saying 😂
Notice how most of these videos about gangs stuff is VERY old, and they never hesitate to spill the beans on former associates. Nobody talks about current stuff. Also makes you want to be careful as to what you do and with whom you do it because at some point in the future some of the people in your circle will end up on a podcast using you as material.
@jin-out I only meant, that for him to come out so publicly is very brave. Given the retribution he might face. And also to take part in policing these gangs. It's only a brave, even fearless, person who would take that on.
Their organisation system was extremely cool. Respect isnt just something that can be manipulated into bullying and fear. They pay their lower downs and don’t mistreat them. Disrespect therefore is always disrespect and not misunderstanding or stupidity or someone choosing to see disrespect when there was none.
I love his accent. Its a mix of Chinese and pure New Yorker.
I was just thinking that. That NY layer is on thick too
Cantonese is best.
He sounds like a mathematician
4:33 perfect example
Good one
The fact that he got hired as a cop after being in a gang is wild. You can't even become a cop with a DUI. And obviously the NYPD knew, it would have been very relevant to his work in Chinatown. Genuinely curious how how he became a cop after admitting to crimes
For real. And how is he able to walk streets and not be scared of his former gang members putting a hit on him? Sounds like a shady cop still working with the gangs
@@cpcxgsr Sounds like you're trolling and speculating baselessly, using a heavily edited 16-minute video/interview to jump to conclusions about decades of a convoluted life that included both trouble and triumph.
Whether he is or not, you don't know, and I don't know.
When these interviews aren't censored or redacted, it's because the parties involved have determined to the best of their ability that the information is no longer current, relevant, or sensitive enough to pose a threat. Whether that's 99.9% or 100% true, we as 3rd parties can't make that determination. The interviewee looks like his gang-related phase was probably 30-40-ish years ago. He talked about the NYC gang scene in the 90s.
The only former gang member I've known told me that most of his circle of former friends were dead or in prison (not just from gang stuff -- also just being dumb and reckless like OD, fatal DUI), at a point about 7 years after he finished his own sentence. And by 10-20 years after, the survivors had all burned out and stuck to laying low and living quietly -- pest exterminator moonlighting as comic book artist, electrician who married an ex-stripper old flame that had someone else's kid, small local bar bouncer, etc. A common theme I observed was that they all settled for what was within easy reach, after years of turbulence and d!ck-measuring.
So after 30+ years, none of it really matters any more, to some of these people. Unsurprisingly, the majority of real stories don't end up as Jason Statham revenge stories (though he plays in consistently pretty good B movies).
I'm calling b*******
@@dakaodo This is most reasonable take I've read. Thank you for being level-headed. If he was in fear of his life, he wouldn't be making this video.
@@onetwo12onetwo526💯
It is ironic that he joined a gang because he was bullied in school,
Then quits the NYPD becuse he was bullied there,
So, when he was a gang member, he got more respect than when he was a policeman.
Well, regardless, he did the right thing by getting out of the gang.
Best of luck to him.
26 years is a long time as an officer, he must have very thick skin
It's yet another example of how police reform remains necessary for one reason or another.
Racism is rampant in every level of society for Asians in USA. Whites don't like Asians and Blacks hate Asians
@@viktorcheng2061with sharp wits
@@BigBadJerryRogers cops now are just thugs sanctioned by the law. Deputy gangs are just a manifestation of this shift into thuggery. On top of that most detectives now have room temperature IQ's.
I was fascinated by the entire video but I just love the goofy moment at 8:00 where Mike talks about how the media portrays onionhead as some dark/foreboding nickname about making people cry and he's just like "Nah his head looked like an onion that's why we called him that lmao"
Reminds me of a scene from Snatch:
Tony: "Boris the Blade? As in Boris the Bullet Dodger?"
Avi: "Why do they call him the 'Bullet Dodger'?"
Tony: "Because he dodges bullets, Avi..."
Chinese nicknames are very straightforward and simple. People want to add some mysticism, lore to it, but I remember that all the nicknames in my family and are very funny: old fat, fat boi, skinny ghost, pumpkin, big head, dead dog/cat, etc 😂
Reminds me of when Michael Franzese talked about his former friends never being original about the nicknames. Like Fat Tony, why call him Fat Tony? Because he was fat. Why call a guy Chickenhead? Because that guy would shoot heads out of chickens during marksmanship practice.
hahahhahhahaah good point ...couldve been both reasons I guess lol
It's important because the gang members respected his choice for no nickname, unlike the racebaiters in NYPD that made him leave through bullying.
Sad that he worked 26 years and still got bullied by his colleagues at nypd. Racism is deeply rooted in the police system it's sad
*Society
@@F28aj What does thathave to do with anything? 😂
@@F28ajVery true
@@F28aj not only in China even in America you have to be American citizen if you want to become a cop in America
Pointing out that in many societies across the world unless you are part of that culture you will not be allowed to participate in certain aspects of that society. Fairly obvious really. I guess being smart isn’t your thing. Also, unless you are Chinese you can never be a Chinese citizen. But the hypocrites in the comments will never acknowledge this lmaooo
Thank you INSIDER for shedding light on this piece of NYC’s Chinatown history.
Just the very matter of fact way he said “ those people will remember me for the rest of their life” sent a shiver down my spine
Yes exactly it sounded really cold
bet it got you wet
Facts yoh live this life and you get older and realize the amount of people you've hurt and you don't wanna do this things anymore but stay prepped for when karma hits
I think what he meant by "those people" are the shopkeepers he protected from other gangs.
@@anthonychan3336 No mr chinaman, he meant the Italian mobsters. He talks about it in his podcast how Chinatown stores were significantly extorted by the Italians. He joined a gang at the age of 15 in High School because like most Chinese back then, they were racially bullied. He felt joining a gang could protect his own community from the Italians and would later commit more serious crimes in retaliation.
That sucks he was treated worse by the nypd than the gang he was in, since he was bullied by them.
Really interesting story, thanks for sharing!
exactly why he got into a gang in the first place !
NYPD have a history of being bastards, so not surprised.
Now you know why not to become a cop.
@@ubcroel4022I hate cops so much
@@joeygil-hz9kvimagine sucking up for the NYPD
“It’s all about respect, and a lot of people died because of disrespect.”
Street truth right there.
I appreciate the insight, especially the small part about extortion and how money flowed throughout the community. As for his time living in two different worlds, it's sad that he had more respect and support as a gang member than a police officer.
It's crazy, nowadays the gangsters give all their money to the richest european and don't spend it in their community
The way the cops treat people its no wonder.
He seems like he only has loyalty to his wallet. Gang to Police then back to gang when he knows he can make a quick buck out of his stories.
@@gillroygarlic3616 yup, that brother hood ceremony was meaningless.
The NYPD is just another gang
He went from being part of an illegal gang to being part of a legal gang
Dry your eyes
😂😂😂
Gangs are fictional but so is legal/illegal.
True... offences are committed daily without prosecution
At least I can kind of respect the illegal kind. At least they don't pretend to be anything else.
What many people may not know is that in Manhattan little Italy and China town are right next to one another. They almost bleed into one another.
Yea man. Take out Chinese and a pie all in the same day.
Same for San Francisco, what an interesting coincidence
@@Ug0tmi1kmaybe not, you know crime syndicates gotta network
Yup.
@@dingleberry4234 True. Italians and Chinese underworld elements used to work hand-in-hand for more than 6 decades.
A good mate of mine, fellow trucker, told me about a crazy experience he had in Chinatown in San Francisco. Let me tell you, those gangsters are no joke. Guns, swords, human trafficking and stuff you wouldn't even believe. You gotta fight to survive down there, gotta look that big ol storm right square in the eye and say "give me your best shot pal, I can take it."
Great video.
Dude where I live its common knowledge like 'don't run with scissors', NEVER to dine-and-dash from a Chinese restaurant because the entire kitchen will chase after you with knives!
JACK!!??
@@markkennicutt1213 It's all in the reflexes!
Lol. Gangster and San Fran don't mix.
Get lost in town, end up in the lost n’ found.
the way this guy speaks, and how his eyes talk.... he's seen some things man.
Such a man of wisdom! I love that he explains the difference between each group/organization. That clarifies a lot ❤
His channel is worth checking out. As a young gangster in CT he also had several business' in Brooklyn. Pool hall, cab stand, etc. Smart dude.
That “some of those people will remember me for the rest of their life” line was cold af
Cringe
I had a friend in the early 90s who was hanging out and dating these gang members. She took us to underground dance halls where the gang members hung out. I was in high school and was naive and curious. Thank goodness it was very short lived for me. I was a good girl so never really felt comfortable in that environment. I later came ro despise these gangs for the fear they instilled in the regular citizens in Chinatown.
How many of these gangs do you hook up with? 4/5
Good girl for not getting wrapped up in that stuff. Headpats for you!
That part where he said paying for loyalties and enhancing someones reps is hella true
He’s right about those tunnels. I’ve personally been in those tunnels in Chinatown/little Italy. There is a private elevator on Mott street that can take you down to the basement with the tunnels. There are 3 or 4 different basement levels and you can go down the elevator in Mott street, then take the tunnel till you see steps, and come up the steps a few blocks over.
Any video evidence 👀
@@blackholesun4942 this was in 2006. No video evidence since camera phones were just coming out at that time, but no video phones. If you’re in NYC just go to grand street and Mott street, as well as grand and mulberry. There are two elevators on those streets that go down. You will probably see a Chinese guy just sitting on a chair outside of a building somewhere halfway down the street towards Broome street and they will be in your left.
@@ksadjdadjaifen lol i didnt find much
Also why so aggro? WeirdChamp
Some private sellers will take you down there for the high quality counterfeit luxury items. My cousin went down there once very naively since she wasn’t from the city.
@@tinaspiceMy cousin went to buy a fake bag in Chinatown and they had a door in the wall they led to 4 doors 🚪 that the owner had to crawl in just to get her the bag
Growing up in the 'ghetto' as a chinese kid (half chinese, but raised by single chinese mother and look way more chinese than the other half) and bullied so much i totally see the temptation to join these gangs, I met triads later in my life who had changed their ways and they told me i 100% would have been recruited in the gang if they werent all locked up. The chinese gangs are long gone here in London now (Or are at least more hidden in the shadows than before), but if i had the chance back then i probably would have joined.
Bruh acting like he miss his chance at going pro in the NBA. 100% been a 5 star recruit they told me
@@rsjrx Actually im saying i missed my chance at falling into a dark and bad life and prison time/death. and thats a good thing.
it is better to be alone and find your path than join a gang. it is not easy to understand that as a young child or adolescent late teen or early 20s but it is better to go it alone in life and grow yourself...
@@classic-superette When you're really young (teenager/20s) you don't really understand how much cumulative damage these kinds of decisions have for the rest of your life. It's better to be safe than sorry...
Look up young and dangerous comic artist and his story where he wrote comics about the gangs but they wouldn’t let him join. It’s a good story.
Glad this video is back up!! Super interesting. Especially if you’re interested in the New York Italian mob. It’s cool to hear his accents clash. That strong New York accent with his Chinese accent. Lol
Needs a movie done about his life. Very interesting man
there is, its called Infernal Affairs
Why is your name peanutman ?
there is a game about it called sleeping dogs
Revenge of the green dragons is about that time period
Bruh.
The Grey slack fit.
The old time hat.
The monotone sound.
The way he speaks.
Hes a retired Dr. Evil.
Do not mess with him.
Phenomenal Interview.
I thought you were gonna say something racist about him trying to be white.
@@Asian_Kid 🙄
fr, he just comes off ice cold, there's no faking that
It doesn’t matter the race or country. All real gangsters have the same eyes, those cold calculating eyes. You see them once in person and you never forget
Yeah you see it in peoples that go through trauma too or have low trust. I talk to some of my friends and they’re always looking around, talking very deliberately, holding eye contact; it’s like they’re studying you intensely; like hyper alert all the time I guess that’s what you have to do to survive if you’re in or from an area with high crime rate/gangs or just poverty in general
@@kimmieutsunomiya1457 good insight, thanks for sharing
yes because it is already ingrained into their mind, like a second instinct, a given...
That the person standing in front of them (animal in their eyes), will act erratically, given the right chance right condition.
The most horrible thing is: they just apply this whole thought to anyone by default: - you as human, could act against your feeling/emotion in split second just for any reason.
So, whatever you said / act could totally contradict to how you truly feel/think inside.... (by act, i mean acts that require you to sacrifice your life/emotion/dignity .... that kind of great importance and high emotion burden thing )
To survive in their world, you must internalize the fact that even a person who gained hard earned trust from you could turn you in any second. Not to mention the betrayals and information that withheld from you by your closed one. (Like a paranoid spy at this point, sbt)
every man for himself- with that icy cold eyes as the only witness.
@@tommywong8084 wow, thanks for the insight. I really felt the thought process behind the eyes with this comment. Thank you
Imagine a series about the relation between Italian mafia and Chinese gangs, I feel there're A LOT stories there
HBO needs to make a series about it.
One of the guys that's a regular on Michael's TH-cam channel, his name is Kenny, he's talked about some of his interactions with the older Italian mafia guys in one of the interviews. You should look it up.
Lucky Luciano was smoking opium in Chinatown while he was young. The Chinese Den was his hangout spot.
Such an interesting story! So glad he's sharing his story and talking with others who have experienced similar!
Mike is really a good man. His channel on TH-cam is very informative. I haven’t ever been to NYC but I’d like to visit, just to see some of the places he talks about 😊
Living Legend Mike, shoutout @CGS! Spectacular interview 🔥
I totally bought those tapes, and learned a lot as a competitive full contact Chinese martial arts fighter. Thank you so much! Sure, compared to someone from China, I was nothing, but I really loved it.
Bro he was a gangster, don't thank him. Homedawg probably killed people
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991maybe they were black or Jewish so it's probably ok
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 : Your cultural illiteracy is impressive.
Grew up in the 90s and was pretty close in doing the blood wine ritual to be a soldier but just liked art too much and went to art school. Crazy to think what my life would be like if I went forward with it.
@@Asian_KidWas born in 93 and have been in Chinatown a lot, nothing happened much in the early 2000s. If you mean 80s when my mom grew up, you don't want to be. She was a high schooler and said someone ended up dying every week. Go to the wrong block, you'll get shot because you don't belong there
@jin-out Im in the 3d motion graphics area and 2D concept art industry
Maybe you would have ended up like a certain famous Austrian who didn't make it into art school...
@@millennialwatchman6703 If he got himself a German Shepherd and named her Blondie, it would've really completed the trifecta.
Andy Warhol had alot of shady people and organized crime go to his Studio 54 events. Nothing has changed even nowadays.
What a fascinating life. I guarantee you this guy has some crazy stories to tell.
He's got his own TH-cam channel. 'Chinatown gang stories'. All his stories and stories from his buddies are there.
i bet lol. bro casually talks about murders and shootings like coffee talk
It's interesting to explore this avenue and compare it to what the Italians like Gravano and Franzese have been sharing for a while now.
Thanks insider now im about to go play Sleeping Dogs 😂.
“This people will remember me for the rest of their life” - that was bone chilling
We will always support this channel they're one of the best
It's interesting to see how crime also has a culture. Each crime organization, though they are all gangs, serve very different purposes depending on the culture that created them and operate very differently. Some gangs operate with organized crime as their primary purpose, and as such tend to avoid the spotlight and have multiple streams of revenue. Those gangs also end up being the most notorious and the most deadly, because they have the most to lose. Others were born out of a sense of rebellion or to fill a power vacuum, and as such may be more brazen in their activity, focused on making a name for themselves and trying to take power from those who they feel have it. Some have a sort of symbiotic relationship with their community while others are openly hated. But what is consistent is that gangs and organized crime groups tend to be the most active in their own communities.
Thank you big brother for real new York gang stories.
I find the ethics of these gang videos fascinating. Here you have individuals talking about their past lives of inflicting pain and misery on innocent people for profit, like a retired pro athlete reflecting on their glory days. And now they are profiting from these stories via Business Insider and promo of their own TH-cam channels! Majority of commenters applauding them for being articulate, authentic, blah blah blah. Some food for thought.
Wow...this man is so dignified. And when someone say "i i did what i needed to do" ouuuuuuffff
What mike is saying NYPD is the biggest Gang in NYC? LOL Confirmed.
It is
This guy has one of the most fascinating accents I've ever heard
I lived in Chinatown for 6 years and I grew up in nyc in the 90s. This ma knows a lot of things that has bee forgotten with time
Awesome interview. Cool history that is often forgotten. Should make an Hollywood movie out of this!!!
This was a very good interview 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I grew in nyc the Italian kids did think were tougher than everyone else because of their dads and uncle's
He seems quite intimidating. One of those thin, wiry, scary guys.
hes not wiry, the gangsters you see are just obese and unfit
😂
Such a unique perspective this is amazing!
I love these videos and how these guys are able to tell their truths
Very thoughtful and precise. Thank you for sharing the knowledge and wisdom
love his unique accent, you know he's a gangsta
Not anymore he's not. Pay attention to what he's actually saying, seriously.
Learning new things every day. Great insight into the different gangs and how they were part of varying/competing syndicates, not one cohesive group... sounds like geopolitics!
Charisma and cold eyes of a killer, you can tell this man is lethal.
🤦♂️
I’d be most interested in this guy’s relationship to his parents or guardians. Of course it can be hard to get truly honest interviews about that
This man took the "do hard things" quote seriously. Worked both sides and lived a life.
Not going to lie, his last bit about Big brother's watching basically said the only reason not to be in gangs is the fact that you will get caught easier. My guess this guy would be in a gang or lead a gang if he wasn't able to be caught.
My guess is he’s insinuating that the biggest gang is the government.
the only gangs and organized crime that exists anymore these days are the ones that big brother allows to
@@MaximilianDenisPatrickPonsonby indeed
Half of that is today's gang members snitching on themselves. A lot harder to fight a drug dealing/smuggling charge when you take a selfie with a brick of coke, stack of cash, and a Glock. The other half is your homies fingering you to get out of their charge or your gang making the neighborhood such a mess the locals won't stick up for you.
You're a very nice person
I bet you'd
Only Mike Moy can make being a gangster to cop seem okay
You forgot Kevin Lowry (Thief to chief), Corey Pegues (Once a cop) and a few more…
Wei Shen from Sleeping Dogs
Sleeping dogs
Cops hire criminal, no surprise
Big blue is the biggest gang in New York
"THERES NO PLACE IN SOCIETY FOR GANGS ANYMORE" jewel of the video for you youngins.
The naivety of young men is the most dangerous thing about a gang in my opinion...
I lived in Woodhaven queens most of my life I would have never expected that they had safe houses in that neighborhood
Wow he literally looks like a real life video game character.
the video game character looks like him
4:41 “some of those people will remember me for the rest of their life” 🥶🥶
Literally a criminal cop.....
It is kind of funny that you can have a few youthful misdemeanors (my female cousin, a prison therapist & addiction counselor ironically, had like 3 for peeing in public - college drinking days, & peeing outside really isn’t a big deal in the rural west) or a massive criminal history in a big money area of crime, but no in-betweeners! They want the high level people in any form of organized crime, even tho they know he gave outdated info. That’s why he’s alive, typically it’s not worth it to kill him because he gave background info but nothing directly related to the year he joined the NYPD. If he gave actionable intel, he’d be Wit Sec. Very few people want to be in Wit Sec so the PDs settle for reformed criminals with slightly old info.
who knew the NYPD cops were also bullies with a badge 😶
-- the only way to stop a bad cop with a gun is a good cop with....a body vest camera. Yup, just rolls off the tongue.
@darren6458I don't think anyone has said that about the police department there or most anywhere else. This is just yet another example of how police reform remains necessary and a neverending process of oversight. Support the police but certainly not without accountability
They raped girla
How about doing videos of the victims destroyed by Chinatown gangs? Maybe do a sit-down with a former gang leader & the victims?
I knew one of his associates. He lived next door to me in Sunset Park around the mid 90s. Looked like a normal dude, you could mistake him for an accountant or some finance guy. One night, feds just showed up and raided his home then took him out in cuffs. Don't know what happened to him afterwards. Only knew this because the corner store guy told me he ran the entire neighborhood with heroin.
glad to hear your remarkable true story Mr. Moy amazing how you made wise changes in your life career, which was a good one, its sad after you made it and put so many years in the NYPD that even then you had to face racism, but after 20 years you left and still got your benefits they owed you, glad you made it successfully myself know about racism for i am an African American born here and faced racism many times but stayed clear as much as possible from this ignorance in my 69 years of life. stayed away from all gangs and underground life too, and i know your true stories will help many young Asian and all races of kids avoid that deadly low class Gantsa life, my son is in jail now doing 25 years to life because he said he wanted to be a gangster but now he see that life is not like he thought!!! KEEP SHAREING THESE GOOD TRUE VIDEO STORIES WITH US TO SHOW YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OR ANY WHO WANT TO ENTER THAT DARK WORLD THATTHE DEEPER THEY GO INTO THAT WORLD THE DARKER IT GETS!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND FAMILY MR MOY
Thank you for sharing your story and words of wisdom. I’m sorry to hear about your son. He already made the first step to be a better person by realizing his mistake.
@larryfranklin2392 I am so sorry to hear that about your son; I hope life gets better for everyone involved in this situation.
Documentary level video
Agreed, though I hesitate to use the word documentary :), as the overwhelming majority of them are misinformed bunk.
I've always loved history, and the rise of the amateur youtube historian has really opened my eyes on how many of the documentaries I used to love were just plain fantasy.
I respect him for telling stories from his youth, and correcting the misinformation the media taught us.
for anyone who hasn’t seen it i recommend “YEAR OF THE DRAGON” (1985) dir by michael cimino from a screenplay by him, oliver stone & robert daley (who wrote the book). if for no other reason than to be introduced to john lone, victor wong & dennis dun. i do believe it may have been raymond j. barry’s (“justified”) 1st big screen appearance. hollywood horseplay ofc but overall quite engaging. john lone was phenomenal & is sorely missed by those who appreciated him.
Man chinese triad gangs always have the coolest names
their not triads lol
He explained that they are not triads
@@Biscuitolivia3561 Yeah, the triad(s) are a distinct group that formed as a criminal element resisting the Qing dynasty. Of course, they didn't disband when the Qing fell, so continued to accumulate power. The vast majority of Chinatown gangs had loose connection to the triad at best, with elements like the Tong faction controlling a lot.
Cosa Nostra nicknames are way better
@@F28ajweak organization
Damn.. needs a Netflix series on this!
Cops are just a legal form of criminalization, Mike’s story is a testament, awesome content, glad I stumbled upon this 👍💁♂️
He went from one gang to another
Chinatown during the 90s was nuts to say the least, now there's probably one or two shops that have closed down or gone out of business
CANAL Street smelled too.....
Id love to hear him talk with Michael Franzese, comparing the italian gang experiences with chinatown
His eyes, that death stare…
A former gang member then became a cop. Sounds like some movie from hong kong called INFERNAL AFFAIRS.
That's a gutsy story, from gang to cop...and in the same hood ❗❗
Going to check out your TH-cam channel dude.... thanks for sharing, cheers to you 🤟🎶
Awesome to see him get out of the gang and change his lifestyle for the better!
Guy never stoped being a gangster at heart
Damn he gave love and devotion on that works for 26y and the reason he leaves because of bullying.. damn that just heartbreaking and sad.
man this guy is so smooth and low-key.. I'm sure he got away with so much in his days
We see the same thing here now. Back in the day a shooting was so rare it was on the front page. Now there are shootings every other day by teenagers.
Fun fact: Gun crime was twice as high in the 90s as it is now especially in New York they had almost 2,000 homicides
not correct. I lived in Chinatown back then and there were shootings on a regular. It is 10000% safer now than then
His soft New York accent🥹❣️ Such a soothing voice.
His eyes are cold 😮
Probably killed some people as a Chinese gang member
You’ve got a big head,
So we’re gonna CALL you “big head”
Lol
that's how Asianz be, bro... straight savage 🤣
The kind of charm & likability this guy must have, to be a cop in his old stomping grounds - and then, to quit & make a channel featuring old gang members… he must’ve been a cat living out his 9 lives, is what I’m saying 😂
He was handsome when he was younger. ❤
e-boy maxxing
@@ShitBagSPCblackpiller
@@ShitBagSPC lol NOT even close, that's insulting more than anything and that's NOT even close to being true AT ALL.
This guy needs a movie about him
Good to know calling someone 'Big Head' transcends cultures
what's different with this reupload compared to the original upload? just curious, no hate
his face is so smooth and looks so soft. he aged finer than fine wine
he looks so great!
It was that blood sacrifice haha
Notice how most of these videos about gangs stuff is VERY old, and they never hesitate to spill the beans on former associates. Nobody talks about current stuff. Also makes you want to be careful as to what you do and with whom you do it because at some point in the future some of the people in your circle will end up on a podcast using you as material.
Subbed to his china town gang story page 🔥
this is real New York history
This channel is so good! But i cant deal with that winding sound.
If it wasnt for that sound I would binge every episode.
Laid it flat. “Big brother…dna…phone tracking…there’s no place for gangs in today’s society”
The cartels... They are in fabric of society
I really want to hear this man said "be water my friend"
This is the definition of bravery.
@jin-out I only meant, that for him to come out so publicly is very brave. Given the retribution he might face. And also to take part in policing these gangs. It's only a brave, even fearless, person who would take that on.
@jin-out it's been a while since i'd seen the video. But I remember being positively impressed. Thank you Jin.
Lowkey wish I could time travel back to NYC in 70’s-1990’s
lol why? Did you not pay attention at all?
Their organisation system was extremely cool. Respect isnt just something that can be manipulated into bullying and fear. They pay their lower downs and don’t mistreat them. Disrespect therefore is always disrespect and not misunderstanding or stupidity or someone choosing to see disrespect when there was none.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge it's admirable