Royal Marine Reacts To Marines Outsmart DARPA's Advanced AI
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An alleged quote from a soviet WWII era document reads "One of the serious problems in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine."
An American quote from the same time goes "If we don't know what we are doing, the enemy certainly can't anticipate our future actions."
There was an US Airborne unit that was made up of only men that had to be removed from other platoons because they couldn't control them. They were complete nutjobs that were basically like rabid dogs that could be let loose against the enemy. The Airborne unit leader had the mentality of ''Fuck it, i'm doing it anyway!''. There was the story of how the leader found 8 chicken eggs in a coop while in a warzone, put them all in his pocket and still fought against German troops along with his squad mates but sadly he broke 1 out of the 8 eggs. The man still had some hot eggs to eat as it was very rare that a soldier could have eggs to eat when away from the HQ, if at all so to him, finding the eggs was one in a million lol. They dont follow the rules but they still make it work.
@@firefox5714 John 'McNasty' Mcfarland, I believe. TFE also had a video on him
@@Ty_-ht1mp The team leader was called Jake 'McNasty' McNeice if i am correct.
@@firefox5714 that sounds right
"The Filthy 13."
Sergeant: "Lieutenant, sir, you may be able to outsmart me, but I will out-stupid you every day of the week."
I spent 4yrs with the Marines as a Corpsman. Hiding inside a box is one of the least stupid things I've seen them do.
Tell us more!
I've heard that DARPA is now trying to study Marine intelligence, the most contradictory thing known to possibly exist.
They'd be better off reading a blank book 😂😂
as a former 0231, all I can say is.... you're not wrong 😅
This comment deserves more likes!😅
If you give them enough crayons, it's amazing what they can accomplish
The Fat Electrician’s sense of humor resonates with veterans. His videos are funny as he!!.
Also, to those of us who are related to veterans, or otherwise well-squinted with them. Kudos to all who serve, past, present, and future.
Eh, he is ok
@@chltmdwpyour mom was just ok
@@beardaquatics9163jesus😂😂
He is a veteran im pretty sure he was a combat medic
I feel like most of the people here have already seen The Fat Electricians videos. They just want to see other peoples reactions to the videos, because they’re that good! Meaning, we will watch his videos multiple times.
Yep, TFE and Brandons Darwin Awards... I wish more people would react to Kentucky Bs 4-bore rifle videos.
FACTS !
DARPA: We challenge you to defeat our AI
Marines: Finally, decades of playing Metal Gear has paid off
N O T H I N G T O R E P O R T
You do realize that the U.S. military doesn't really get involved in war games and exercises that aren't specifically designed for us to lose? We don't learn as much about our capabilities by kicking the crap out of people.
They add fuel drop tanks to f-22s snd f-35s during training to make them visible on radar, and slower due to the weight.
@@typhoon1575 I've also heard that F-22 pilots get put in losing situations a lot during simulation training. Just to see how long they can last and to see how much the plane can handle
Well I'm not sure which one he's talking about.....It clearly isn't the American Revolutionary War......nor the American War of 1812.....or WWI or WWII.....Nope. Can't think of which war (game) he's speaking of.🤣😉
@@steeljawXI believe it was the Korean War. Our first UN Peacekeeping Conflict Resolution Service provided by our DoD on behalf of the world 😊
Look, the U.S. has capabilities that the lesser don't habla...
You can get butt hurt or whatever the current phrase is.
"America" has the best unhealhcare system period, all you arm chair quarterbacks or kickers or whatever you want to call it, need to sit down and take notes...
Just to think now. We now have a CLASS of battlegrounds to consider. Cyber, Land, Air, Sea, Space.
Well.....CLASSIE. Cyber, Land, Air, Sea, Space, Internal, External. . . . there's always those things festering inside the group and then the big ugly threats outside.
I can _hear_ the Marines giggling from in the box. They must've had _so_ much fun that day. His real name is Nic BTW
These are the ones we call Crayon Eaters and Window Lickere, and they still outsmarted it. 😂🤣 Just giving ya crap Marines. Keep up the good work.
TFE left out 2 key things: the Marine who “ walked like a fir tree” also approached the bot saying “ I’m a fir tree, fir tree” and another 2 Marines used an office chair and one hid behind the chair and pushed the other all the way up to the bot
Robo drone is a hell of a lot smarter now. This actually happened a while back. Way b4 machine learning could really even be referred to as AI.
i think this was a great turning point in that project
I'm 100% sure that if you get some Marines together and tell them to outsmart Robodrone today, Robodrone is going down.
@@vladyvhv9579 can't be smart with a bullet in your CPU.
Corpsman here. You said something you typically hear on a daily basis, "...very smart from the Marines. Very smart..." (all kidding aside, love Marines. Some of the best potatoes I know.) 🥔🥔🥔
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I think it was Vietnam but people used to think that Marines were recruited from prisons and insane asylums for this exact reason you never understand what they're going to do until they do it the textbook definition of never let them know your next move
Pretty sure that was World War 2 in the Pacific Theater. I remember watching The Pacific and one scene has Chesty Puller reading I believe a news article or something of what the Japanese thought of the marine corps. The article said that they were recruited from prisons and insane asylums for their blood lust.
Japanese during WWII.
@@brigidtheirish close enough
That was the Japanese
And the Iraqis in desert storm thought we had to kill a family member to graduate boot camp.
I remember seeing a video of a marine describing how insurgents in Iraq were hiding from thermal goggles or something. They wore think animal hides to block out their heat. It's crazy how technology can be outsmarted with improvisation
Those silver emergency blankets work great. You can fashion a stick framed shield out of them that weighs next to nothing and you completely disappear. You can even use them to significantly reduce a vehicle engine signature by lining the inside of the hood and fenders.
@@Anubis78250 for about 30-60 mins before the heat signatures seep out of those blankets
I assume that stopping the enemy from doing what they want to be doing, while they try to hide from technology is a win in itself really. In this case the robot might not notice the walking tree, the acrobatic marines, or the moving box, but those who are on duty WITH the machine should.
@@lanceamadantebonife3987 That's only if you're touching them. That's why you build a frame so it can be held away from you.
The Fat Electrician comments on a lot of reactors videos. Also a way to easily tell if he has a scene after his outro is if the video tiles appear during his outro music or not.
Saw the video you're reacting to in the thumbnail. I already knew you were going to love it. It makes sense though. It's a case of the "raven paradox." That paradox basically states that "Ravens are birds. Ravens are black. Therefore all black birds are ravens." We all know that's not true, but the "truth" of the first two points are fairly accurate. It's the assumption at the end that makes it a weird paradox of it's not correct, but it's also not technically wrong either.
And that's what this AI did. It was with the marines for 6 days and saw that "Humans are this shape. Humans move like this at this speed. Ergo all humans are that shape and only move at that speed and that way." It's surprising that such a human fallacy is like the first thing this AI gets wrong. But can you imagine if this did go out like it did on that day 7? US soldiers would be reporting, "Yeah, some ISIS F*cker came rolling down the mountain with an RPG and the stupid thing didn't warn us!!! No! I mean literally like a ball with an RPG sticking out of it!!!" And DARPA would be there like, "That's not possible! The Marines clearly were outsmarted by our 6 day dataset!!!"
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣! Give Marines a task without limitations of how to do said task? Oh Lord! This is gonna get interesting!!!
You're not wrong in supposing that losing a drone to the enemy is potentially very costly. As an IT guy and ham operator, there's a LOT of juicy intel I could pry from an intact enemy drone.
Even a wrecked drone reveals much: its motors, batteries, connectors, wiring, PCB's, chips...all point to country of origin.
By the way, thefatelectrician was an Army medic. But I completely understand your point about not reviewing too many. But I highly encourage you as a former Marine myself to watch the most gangster marine ever Dan Daly. That one will make you wow. But I too would love to see him do one on the royal marines.
Like, I know what I did in the Marine Corps, but watching his videos makes me even more proud of selecting that branch for my term of service. Zero regrets, minus not re-enlisting. Marine Corps in a nut shell. Over train, go somewhere "exotic", get piss drunk, wake up the next day, say hold my beer, then proceed to do something that is tactically shouldn't be possible, and go home like looking like you just beat a 12 yr old in a game of fronthand/ backhand.
Watch more of his videos! I like watching people like you react to his stories. We need more people doing that.
AI to First Group: This is wagon wheel.
AI to Second Group: This is a Triffid.
AI to Third Group: Ooh. And Automated Amazon Box. Hello friend.
Just a comment about letting your kids beat you up! I have been teaching my daughters to box since they could stand. So far, my older daughter, (who is now 14) has broken my nose twice and dislocated my jaw once. I consider these signs that I have been doing my job correctly. Keep it up!
You really need to do the percy hobart one. Its actually mind blowing the influence he had on modern warfare
I only served in the Army National Guard, every year we did a major exercise with the regular units of all branches. We were an old TOW unit based in M151A2 Jeeps, we were unconventional to say the least, yet we always came out on top during the exercises. All of us grew up hunting and off roading, we had all kinds of tricks the guys in regular units never thought of.
That's a really great point right off the bat about the responsibility the "robo-soldier" would be.
A FatElectrician video on the Royal Marines would be awesome! As an American I support this, I’d love to learn more about our allies across the pond.
I don't know the ins and outs of the system they were running, but I think cross referencing the normal camera with a IR camera would have been beneficial to the AI in detecting the Marines. Or at least given it a reason to double check movement that was being detected.
yes, another Quack-Bang react! dude is top shelf!
They may get a rep as brain dead door kickers, but I work with 2 marines and they are smart as hell
The world we build relies on rules to function.
Computers are an extension of this.
The Opera algorithms with inset parameters to achieve set goals.
AI still operates on these principles even more so.
From the beginning military training is designed to break down the rules of society and form a unit that is designed to go against most of the fundamental rules.
Boundaries are broken in the military.
AI recognition is designed to find all the boundaries.
Imagination and creativity are the building blocks of what make humans the most terrifying creature on earth.
MiIllion dollar robot beaten by the box it came in 😅
_walk like a fir tree_ was golden!
10:30
The first thing I thought was all of the generals in a war room talking, and one of them asks "So, what's the plan going into this?" and the only thing he hears after 10 seconds of painful silence is "I dunno. Just pick a direction and start f*in sh*t up." then a series of nods and grumbles of agreement.
“The most deadly US task force in history” by general discharge please 🙏
Right!, I suggested “Mad Jack Churchill. A super talented archer and swordsman from WW2.
“Never underestimate the strength of absolute stupidity.”
Old man reacts. Or atleast where I heard it
I had never even considered the use of AI in an optics system to detect enemies. Imagine setting up these cameras in your trench line covering different sectors, and then getting an early warning the moment they detect enemies. Like you said, if the technology is easy enough for boots on the ground that could be a game changer.
Apoint you brought up... distribution of weight... think about that for a second... this would not ONLY be an early warning system, but also a robotic pack mule... so you carry less, but have more ammo, food, gear and supplies available. Also, destruction of comms is vital to keep encryption software out of the hands of the enemy. This doesnt have to have encrypted 2 way comm hardware in it.
But think about it for another second. You'd need about 4 of them to be effective. 1 to be the early detection bait (because that's what an early detection system sometimes is....first thing shot,) 2 to carry the team's stuff, and then 1 to carry the stuff for the new engineers and spare parts required to keep those other 3 up and running. All an OpFor would need to do would be hit the 2 cargo bearing drones and that's basically the human element on a very short timer. It sounds like a good idea, but it's also a case of putting a lot of eggs in one basket. You're right that a couple of them could pack mule the ever living for a squad, but they lose one or both, that squad's lost basically all their stuff except for what's on them. So both a pro and a con. It'd be a lot more of a con if it's doing double duty of being an early warning system AND the pack mule because then there's much higher chance it's going to get shot up.
since when does a pack mule take point?@@steeljawX
Keep up the awesome work Luke, and keep kicking ass! Keep on with TFE! Nic is great!
4:30 We used thermite grenades if we had to abandon our tanks. One on the radio, one on the cannon breech and one on the back deck.
4:45 well the point of the robo grunt would’ve been to be completely autonomous, almost like an extra squad mate with more functionality, I’m sure they’d add phosphorus or C4 or something inside to keep it from going home with the enemy, but presumably if it is completely autonomous, it’d be able to assess the situation at hand, know exactly what the best course of action is in less than a second, and act on it, whether that’s RTB or whatever
All the fuckery will decimate AI learning.
Broooooo. We are getting wrecked with snow in Washington, cant sleep, great to get a new vid
Stay safe mate! 💚
Dude,.. I'm a fat drunk American but I could watch your video's forever just you hear you say "Fuuurrst-laaaay".....LOL. Good video. Keep it up Bud.
I said it before i'll say it again you just know the guys in the box knew they were doing a metal gear solid cause no way they would be giggling like school girls in a box without knowing what they were doing
Nick's stuff is great I hope you react to some of the longer vids in the future so many are amazing👍
To your point of just another thing for the boots on the ground to take of. I'd argue its not different than bringing in a K9. Same thing, different mechanism.
In the arly 80s, I went straight from Active Duty to Reserves (and was later re-activated severel times). In my 1st annual training, my unit was supposed to just be a target for recon, infantry, and some air assets. After the first brief, when we learned our job was to be stupid, I heard several Viet Nam vets mumble, "Not on my watch." These vets grabbed every cook, driver, and supply guy (without clearing it), and gave them a crash course in tactics. By the end, we had shattered everything thrown at us. To be fair, the attackers were ALSO told we were their play thing, so they weren't exactly on their game. Nothing that followed in the next 20 years was that much fun.
What about at a FOB working perimeter patrol, 24hrs a day ? Inside the fence, monitoring.
I was a Vietnam era Medic. The marines were very supportive of us.
There is no such thing as “too much fat electrician.” Anyone who says as much is a fool and should be ignored.
This is the most Marine action possible. Tell a Marine something can't be done and they will prove you wrong.
His name is Nic, he lives in a small town in Iowa, He is a former 68W Combat Medic in the U.S. Army. After retires from the Army, he is now a journeyman electrician, as well as a Jiu-Jitsu coach. He is also one of the Hosts of the "Unsubscribe" Podcast with Donut Operator, Brandon the AK Guy, and Eli "Double Tap" Chavez. Its hilarious.
The first rule of unsubscribe...
fuckin hell mate, u sound crisp as ever xD whens the next stream? cant wait to play some more doorkickers with ya!
Soon I’m hoping! :)
Video suggestion. Jeremy Clarkson Greatest raid of all.
It's about the British Commandos.
I'm honestly surprised that they didn't just say, "Okay, think of ways to fool this robot, and for every way you think of, you're gonna do several days of it to train the robot for this shit. Get multiple teams for it. Get 30 something teams and get them all to do a single day of training for each insane idea they come up with. After that if the enemy is clever enough to out-ridiculous 30 teams of Marines then they fucking deserve to win.
I know you have said you're not going to do one of his videos for a while, but you absolutely have to review his video on the British mosquito in world war II, and yes there's always a blurb at the end. You just got to be patient
Not always, but usually if it's over 7 minutes there's a better than 90% chance there'll be something. His beginning stuff that were on TikTok have nothing at the end.
You can out smart me, but I'll out stupid you and win!
I only watch you, when you're reacting to TFE, sooo. He does Several stories about Brits and they're Very Good! Thank you for your Reaction!
Maybe the AI drone joining a squad on the ground comes with a pre-installed self-destruct safety measure so the guys don't have to worry about leaving it behind.
In most of his videos he has a “post-credits” clip, but it doesn’t happen in all of them.
The large electron guy is perfect content for us military geeks
One of the reason his sense of humor appeals to veterans is because he's a former medic who served in the National Guard.
I like the analysis from your soldiering standpoint. I unfortunately can't serve for mental health diagnosis reasons, so that stuff is always not just cool, but very informative on the mindset and the guys who matter out there.
I listen to his videos on drive to work. I enjoy hearing someone else’s reaction to them. Specifically someone with decent audio of both the video and your dialogue. Plz keep the reaction of the fat electrician coming.
You have to wait until after the credit to see the joke at the end.
Engineer: NYE HEH HEH YOU CANNOT OUTSMART OUR DEATH MACHINE! IT IS THE FUTURE!
Marines: *proceed to destroy billion dollar AI with twigs* Oops, broke the shiny
I'd love to see a reaction to:
Pentagon Hall of Heroes: Staff Sgt. David G. Bellavia's Speech
The US ARMY
"AI is One Track Minded."
Marines,
I FIXED that.
Army would have went all HUA and the AI would have cornered them in a Jack In The Box...
We gotta do everything with a handicap....othrwise we stop being the best lol
Having a wheeled robot out "scouting" in the open isn't very stealthy when you're trying to infiltrate into enemy territory undetected, I'd prefer to have my scouts a little less conspicuous
Nic does awesome stuff, he did a great video on the Gurkhas
Wasn't that some closed AI that was basically limited to a few things only? I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure it was old and nerfed.
He did one on a Brit I know he did at least one and he did one about the U.S, and U.K. called the Biggest Logistical Flex of all times.
I cant wait until he watches the Cheese Bunker video for TFE
I am retired US Marine. We used thermite not phosphorous to destroy things. A phosphorous grenade will throw the burning chemical over 40 meters. Very disconcerting to those around you.
Wait!??!!!! You have trained your kids well enough where they can attack and defeat a Royal Marine Commando using nothing but plastic toys? When they become adults, they will be able to open the gates of Hell on anyone that displeases them.
Just what you need, one more thing to have to keep track of, to worry about, to carry batteries for, to get through difficult terrain. I'm willing to bet this ideas was dreamed up by someone who's never carried a rifle.
1. Keep doing TFE videos. Three is not enough.
2. He has a podcast. Get on it :-)
Highly recommend FE's video about USMC Sgt. Major Dan Daly, the most bad-ass Marine in history, as well as his video about the Ontos tank.
Do you want to know who’s really cool? The ROK’s Black Tigers are really awesome! If you react to the Fat Electrician’s Operation Paul Bunyan, he talks about them.
UMaine, nice you weren't far from me, I live in NH
Your wheeled scout needs to blend in to the point where it can't be seen. otherwise they (the enemy) will know their location is found and would be abandoned.
If the robot sentry forces the enemy to advance in such a way that is either very visible to humans or very slow, then it actually have done an adequate job. No solution needs to be perfect, a mixture of multiple solution, however, can be far more effective. Combined arms is a thing for a reason.
I think what the robot really need to be able to do is pick up traditional sneaking methods that humans might miss. Then the combination of human and robot would be great.
The real question is the cost. As mentioned, additional responsibility in ensuring equipment don't fall into enemy hand is a thing. If the benefit does not outweigh this cost, then it's not worth it.
Live commentary as I watch. It will seem a little choppy and messy, but i won't edit to keep it real:
1) Boots on the ground with a high-tech piece of equipment? Yeah. I would probably be worried that it would be spotted. But, a drone is so loud. Is this not a better option? Are you saying the concern is your brain has the ENTIRE mission and you also have to think about this piece of tech you aren't allowed to leave behind in any functional state? Ok, I think I get what you're saying here. If I were moving on an urban target; 3 buildings deep, and 1 floor up. Yes, this would be a concern. But, maybe it can be silent? If you can hug a corner, keep the gears quiet (housing?) and still get images that help you? Ok, let's do it. Moving on...
2) Is it really that important to get every single piece of comms? I ask because there are so many elements. I'm impressed by our soldiers that they can keep that priority top of mind aside from all the other stuff the mission demands. Are we asking too much of these soldiers? So, now we come to the hilarious AI training the Marines did. Sommersaults? Sure....
3) Singleminded AI seems to be falling a bit short. For reference... the human brain is considerably more complex than the entire observable universe.
Digging the videos man. Keep up the good work. I meet a few Royal Marines while in Iraq in 2003. Cool dudes for sure. We traded some stuff, I got a green and maroon beret from them.
The Fat Electrician is fantastic. Or make a video on the f15 that came back with one wing.
AI will never be better than a human. Nobody understands that computers will NEVER be able to identify a human just by looking at it. There are more characteristics that it has to account for, something human beings can easily manipulate
Sounds so wrong to hear a grown man begging someone to slip into his BH.. I meant.. DMs
The United States Marine Corps is notorious for having the cast off equipment of the Army and outperforming them every time. They have developed a mission philosophy of, "Adapt, Improvise and Overcome."
The growth of AI and drone warfare is kind of terrifying! The sure fire way to defeat most modern weapons is an EMP. An easy way to create an EMP is a nuclear weapon, especially if a nuclear armed side is losing. Like honestly Ukraine is embarrassing Russia, they have sunk a third of the Russian Black Sea fleet and they don't have a Navy
AI shall remain King until Birnam Wood comes to Dunsinane... OOPS !!
The biggest problem with AI is, that its not an AI. AA [Advanced Algorithm] is much more fitting of a name for this tech we have.
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Don't short yourself on his videos sir. You will not only enjoy his presentation style, but he don't do opinions other than his own unless he makes it very clear when doing so. Otherwise he's spitting facts. At least have a listen to his piece on Lewis Millet, fantastic stuff beyond the brief mentions on historical record. He digs beyond the commonly known.
Just discovered the channel while watching an FE video, funnily enough! Even if you don't react to them, give FE's earlier MOS videos a look. They are the birthplace of alot of his recurring jokes, and quite frankly the ONLY good thing to come out of tiktok in my opinion.
100% agree