I stupidly forgot to add how the world was changed with the drowning of Númenor. The world was made circular at this time by Iluvatar, new lands were added east of Middle-earth, and the encircling sea linked itself on east and west, north and south. Valinor was taken out of the world so that only the elves would be able to find it hereafter. Thanks!
One other small, but somewhat important detail you missed was that the first sacrifice in Sauron's temple was Nimloth, the White tree. It also has to be said that the quality of the 2 Lorecasts is far beyond the previous Lore-Videos (not that they were bad, but the Lorecasts are even better).
I've been searching for that piece of history between the War of Wrath and the rising of Elenna... Numenore.... 32 years. What happened? How did ANY from Beleriand survive? Who was left of the 3 houses and how did they get to a point where they could make their journey? Lots of questions.... anyone know where the answers are?
Hm, I personally would wish a speculation video/lore video on the Fourth Age. The political make-up of Middle Earth after the fall of Sauron and the establishment of the United Kingdom. Interesting things to discuss would be the reintegration of lost and problematic lands such as Dunland, Enedwaith, South Gondor, Umbar, Rhudaur, the Brown Lands and the Rhunic Territories. How do the Kingdom's provinces compare? Is there a north-south divide like there was and is after the reunification of of West and East Germany? Are there tensions because of it? The Elves have left what has happened with their realms? Imladris is most likely empty, Lindon probably a hollow shell that just remains to allow even the last Elves passage to the west. Lorien probably largely deserted? I imagine Thranduil's realm in Mirkwood to be the only one to remain. As far as I'm aware, his people shouldn't all feel the call to the Sea so he should be able to keep a decent amount of elves, right? What about Eregion? Does it stay deserted? Would the Reunited Kingdom claim it? Or might refugees from Dunland, Rhudaur and Moria, forces of evil having to flee these places and perhaps create their own kingdom there? Possibly supporting separatist sentiments in Dunland, Rhudaur and Enedwaith like Angmar did with Rhudaur long ago? What about the Dwarves? With the defeat of Sauron things must be going well. Durin's Bane has been destroyed, evil decisively beaten, Moria reclaimed. Did Tolkien ever mention the Dwarves declining? I mean, they seem to be growing more and would most likely be powerful factions in the 4th Age unlike the Elves. Another question is the fate of Mount Gundabad of course. I don't think any piece of lore that the Dwarves reclaim it. So it would probably be one of the few orc strongpoints left. What about the evil dwarfs Tolkien alluded to several times and who received some portrayal in Lord of the Rings online as the Dourhand Clan? Would they still exist? Might they've managed to carve out their own Kingdom in the Ered Luin? Or would they be exiles living in what few evil realms still exist? What would the Reunited Kingdom's relationship be with the other powers of good aka the Dwarven Kingdoms, Rohan, the Druadan Tribe, Lindon, Fangorn, Mirkwood, the Shire, the Anduin Kingdom(s), Dale and the Kingdom of Nurnen? I heard Tolkien wrote a start for a 4th Age story called A new Shadow and it was basically a conversation between two Gondorians, one good and one evil and corrupted. Could it mean that perhaps the Reunited Kingdom fell into decadence and arrogance much like Numenor before it? Could it perhaps be bossing and pressuring other powers of good, utilizing its position as the sole Hegemon of Middle Earth to wage diplomatic and economic warfare on all who don't conform to their wishes? And what of the forces of evil? Mordor has fallen yet Sauron's forces were vast and not really all gathered at the Black Gate. Perhaps remaining forces of Mordor could've fled away from the armies of the West and into eastern Mordor, where, with the back to their faithful and long time allies, they could've carved out an evil realm? What about the orcs? With the fall of Moria and Isengard, they've indeed received a heavy blow and it is likely they were driven out of the southern Misty Mountains...but in the North they should still be strong, right? Goblin Town, Mount Gundabad, Mount Gram, Carn Dum, all bases of evil in the North that could theoretically still be standing. Nothing has been said about the Grey Mountains either right? So theoretically they might still be crawling with orcs and dragons too. But how could they've survived in the face of the victorious powers of good? I personally like to take the ending from the game War in the North here. It ends with the heroes ceding Carn Dum to the Dragon Urgost and basically making a pact of non-aggression with him. Would King Elessar honour that pact/reaffirming and thus actually bind the Reunited Kingdom to it? Perhaps. With all the wars he waged in the east and South, he was probably more than happy to not have to deal with another front, especially one so far from his corelands and boasting a powerful Dragon as for. Perhaps the orcs, trolls and evil men of the North subscribed to Urgost as their Overlord to get under his protection and that of his pact with Gondor? It would be something they'd both profit from, the underlings by having a powerful Lord and a treaty with the good guys (And good guys tend to keep treaties because they're good) to protect them while Urgost gains territories and an army, granting him more riches and also making securing his own position in this world with an army to protect him, making a breach of such a treaty to get rid of him a much more dangerous and resource intensive endeavour. Interesting would also be if evil was still a united front like before? It would make sense if especially they were. They are the defeated, the underdogs. Many have lost vast territories or got completely wiped out. It should create hatred for the west that unites them. Even more so would the threat from the good nations. They suffered throughout the Second and Third Age at the hands of the evil factions, warmongers to get rid of them should exist . Besides, they're the ones on top so they'd be a military threat. Problem is of course that evil is so disunited/broken. You have the human block in the east consisting of Rhun, In and and the principalities of Harad. As well as maybe a Mordor remnant. And then you have the evil in the North, in Eriador and the Misty Mountains. If the evil was united, who'd be the lead power? Rhun? Or whatever's up north? What role would Sauron play in all this? The evil Men afterall weren't bound to him purely by his dominating power like the orcs were, as evidenced by their continued resistance at the Black Gate, so it is likely that even robbed of his power and little more than a shadow, he could still organise and command the realms of the East. Funny thing also, that with the establishment of the Kingdom of the Slaves in Nurnen, the pass of Cirith Ungol might actually see some activity again, something which might help Shelob (I always wondered why they chose to completely rename her in the german version, where she's called Kankra) get some more meals and might actually lead to the spread of spiders over the Ephel Duath.
Tolkien has somewhat of a prophecy with the dwarves that includes the seven incarnations of Durin. When the seventh Durin is born the dwarves will be at their apex and when he dies there decline will begin. The seventh Durin was born in the sometime in the fourth age, meaning the dwarves would be in decline.
@@kaledimarco6348 Depends. The 7th Durin could be born at any time in a long 4th Age which means they could have a loooooong era of constant ascension before them.
Arachir you my good man are a walking talking symbolism of Tolkien’s world and through your many lore videos his legacy and work continues to live on if anything you’ll get people to read the books after watching your very well done lorecasts keep it up mate!
How so? What organized military force did the Maiar have that would have allowed them to face let alone beat a late industtial era army landing on their shores? Demigods they may be, but not one act of theirs in the lore demonstrates that they would have extraordinary power. Why woul Saruman deign to raise an army of uruk hai for example, were it otherwise?
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 They definitely have extraordinary power being able to beat Melkor and all, Saruman however was forbidden and likely unable to use all of it due to restrictions put on him when he went to Middle-earth. The Valar and Maiar are however not allowed to intervene with the free will of Men or Elves, which is why they called upon Eru.
@@ducovanderwoude6971 The most impressive they had ever done is country wide natzral phenomaena. Could they hurt the host of Númenor? Certainly. Could they defeat it? Unlikely. Individuals in LotR simply do not posess the power to singlehandedly face armies, not even if they are demigods.
Quite! The King's of Arnor took the SIndarin prefix of 'Ar-' or 'Ara-' in both cases meaning King or Royal. For example, Arvedui whose name meant 'Last King'. Aragorn is usually translated as Warrior King but it has also been suggested as 'King of Valour'
So I started up Divide and Conquer with my friend and we have the same version and everything and when we went in a multiplayer game it said the data was not compatible. Is the mod not multiplayer? Can someone please help?
Wow a lot of this can be be compared to our own lives in the modern era... losing faith in the Valar... (Turning away form God)... seeking answers to questions (why are we mortal?) even getting some of the answers but persisting in your own self destruction... Turning your life and society into nothing more than pleasure, decadence and excess in order to enjoy your mortality to the fullest and nothing more. How sad and tragic.
Do I need to add anything more?.. No, you absolutely told everything. May this story be a warning to what has become our "modern" world, with climatic change, wars, disputes etc. etc. But there is still hope, if we understand our folly and turn away of this self-destruction. Be well, my friend- even if I will never see you...
Well he was both a devout catholic and master of history. The whole thing is a history and story of mankind. We too have long erased ages behind us that would explain the questions of man if only we could unlock the entirety of our past.
Arachir what do I do if I download third age but I’m unable to find the kingdoms.exe files I watched your tutorial but that option isn’t appearing for me
If the Amazon series stays true to Tolkien's work, then it should be absolutely amazing. Then again, with the Woke Plague infecting (and diminishing) almost everything coming out of Hollywood, I'm not getting my hopes up. It's almost as if Sauron had something to do with it.
The story itself seems to suggest that imperialism is bad. Isnt that "woke"? After all, the villians are the purest, most culturaly advanced, whitest people in the world. I could make an argument the original story itself was "woke." Of course, the way you use the word is so vague as to be meaningless.
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I stupidly forgot to add how the world was changed with the drowning of Númenor. The world was made circular at this time by Iluvatar, new lands were added east of Middle-earth, and the encircling sea linked itself on east and west, north and south. Valinor was taken out of the world so that only the elves would be able to find it hereafter.
Thanks!
Exemplary job! Do keep going with these; they help me get through my day.
One other small, but somewhat important detail you missed was that the first sacrifice in Sauron's temple was Nimloth, the White tree.
It also has to be said that the quality of the 2 Lorecasts is far beyond the previous Lore-Videos (not that they were bad, but the Lorecasts are even better).
I've been searching for that piece of history between the War of Wrath and the rising of Elenna... Numenore.... 32 years. What happened? How did ANY from Beleriand survive? Who was left of the 3 houses and how did they get to a point where they could make their journey? Lots of questions.... anyone know where the answers are?
Your lore videos are the best on TH-cam! Thank you
This content is so good. While everyone makes videos for masses you give us unique topics with a lot of details.
I like to think that Amandil's plea is why the Faithful are blown away from Numenor.
Hm, I personally would wish a speculation video/lore video on the Fourth Age. The political make-up of Middle Earth after the fall of Sauron and the establishment of the United Kingdom.
Interesting things to discuss would be the reintegration of lost and problematic lands such as Dunland, Enedwaith, South Gondor, Umbar, Rhudaur, the Brown Lands and the Rhunic Territories.
How do the Kingdom's provinces compare? Is there a north-south divide like there was and is after the reunification of of West and East Germany? Are there tensions because of it?
The Elves have left what has happened with their realms? Imladris is most likely empty, Lindon probably a hollow shell that just remains to allow even the last Elves passage to the west. Lorien probably largely deserted? I imagine Thranduil's realm in Mirkwood to be the only one to remain. As far as I'm aware, his people shouldn't all feel the call to the Sea so he should be able to keep a decent amount of elves, right? What about Eregion? Does it stay deserted? Would the Reunited Kingdom claim it? Or might refugees from Dunland, Rhudaur and Moria, forces of evil having to flee these places and perhaps create their own kingdom there? Possibly supporting separatist sentiments in Dunland, Rhudaur and Enedwaith like Angmar did with Rhudaur long ago?
What about the Dwarves? With the defeat of Sauron things must be going well. Durin's Bane has been destroyed, evil decisively beaten, Moria reclaimed. Did Tolkien ever mention the Dwarves declining? I mean, they seem to be growing more and would most likely be powerful factions in the 4th Age unlike the Elves. Another question is the fate of Mount Gundabad of course. I don't think any piece of lore that the Dwarves reclaim it. So it would probably be one of the few orc strongpoints left. What about the evil dwarfs Tolkien alluded to several times and who received some portrayal in Lord of the Rings online as the Dourhand Clan? Would they still exist? Might they've managed to carve out their own Kingdom in the Ered Luin? Or would they be exiles living in what few evil realms still exist?
What would the Reunited Kingdom's relationship be with the other powers of good aka the Dwarven Kingdoms, Rohan, the Druadan Tribe, Lindon, Fangorn, Mirkwood, the Shire, the Anduin Kingdom(s), Dale and the Kingdom of Nurnen? I heard Tolkien wrote a start for a 4th Age story called A new Shadow and it was basically a conversation between two Gondorians, one good and one evil and corrupted. Could it mean that perhaps the Reunited Kingdom fell into decadence and arrogance much like Numenor before it? Could it perhaps be bossing and pressuring other powers of good, utilizing its position as the sole Hegemon of Middle Earth to wage diplomatic and economic warfare on all who don't conform to their wishes?
And what of the forces of evil? Mordor has fallen yet Sauron's forces were vast and not really all gathered at the Black Gate. Perhaps remaining forces of Mordor could've fled away from the armies of the West and into eastern Mordor, where, with the back to their faithful and long time allies, they could've carved out an evil realm? What about the orcs? With the fall of Moria and Isengard, they've indeed received a heavy blow and it is likely they were driven out of the southern Misty Mountains...but in the North they should still be strong, right? Goblin Town, Mount Gundabad, Mount Gram, Carn Dum, all bases of evil in the North that could theoretically still be standing. Nothing has been said about the Grey Mountains either right? So theoretically they might still be crawling with orcs and dragons too. But how could they've survived in the face of the victorious powers of good? I personally like to take the ending from the game War in the North here. It ends with the heroes ceding Carn Dum to the Dragon Urgost and basically making a pact of non-aggression with him. Would King Elessar honour that pact/reaffirming and thus actually bind the Reunited Kingdom to it? Perhaps. With all the wars he waged in the east and South, he was probably more than happy to not have to deal with another front, especially one so far from his corelands and boasting a powerful Dragon as for. Perhaps the orcs, trolls and evil men of the North subscribed to Urgost as their Overlord to get under his protection and that of his pact with Gondor? It would be something they'd both profit from, the underlings by having a powerful Lord and a treaty with the good guys (And good guys tend to keep treaties because they're good) to protect them while Urgost gains territories and an army, granting him more riches and also making securing his own position in this world with an army to protect him, making a breach of such a treaty to get rid of him a much more dangerous and resource intensive endeavour.
Interesting would also be if evil was still a united front like before? It would make sense if especially they were. They are the defeated, the underdogs. Many have lost vast territories or got completely wiped out. It should create hatred for the west that unites them. Even more so would the threat from the good nations. They suffered throughout the Second and Third Age at the hands of the evil factions, warmongers to get rid of them should exist . Besides, they're the ones on top so they'd be a military threat. Problem is of course that evil is so disunited/broken. You have the human block in the east consisting of Rhun, In and and the principalities of Harad. As well as maybe a Mordor remnant. And then you have the evil in the North, in Eriador and the Misty Mountains. If the evil was united, who'd be the lead power? Rhun? Or whatever's up north? What role would Sauron play in all this? The evil Men afterall weren't bound to him purely by his dominating power like the orcs were, as evidenced by their continued resistance at the Black Gate, so it is likely that even robbed of his power and little more than a shadow, he could still organise and command the realms of the East.
Funny thing also, that with the establishment of the Kingdom of the Slaves in Nurnen, the pass of Cirith Ungol might actually see some activity again, something which might help Shelob (I always wondered why they chose to completely rename her in the german version, where she's called Kankra) get some more meals and might actually lead to the spread of spiders over the Ephel Duath.
Tolkien has somewhat of a prophecy with the dwarves that includes the seven incarnations of Durin. When the seventh Durin is born the dwarves will be at their apex and when he dies there decline will begin. The seventh Durin was born in the sometime in the fourth age, meaning the dwarves would be in decline.
@@kaledimarco6348 Depends. The 7th Durin could be born at any time in a long 4th Age which means they could have a loooooong era of constant ascension before them.
My hero Arachir, thanks for what you do. 👍🏻
Wow, these are truly great. Will find you on Patreon my good sir
Extraordinary video, love the lore and it is very interesting.
Absolutely loving the format! Thank you for putting time into these.
Excellent lore videos, so enjoyable!!! Cheers
Arachir you my good man are a walking talking symbolism of Tolkien’s world and through your many lore videos his legacy and work continues to live on if anything you’ll get people to read the books after watching your very well done lorecasts keep it up mate!
So the Valar/Maiar didn't know the Numenoreans captured Sauron...?
Mmmm a new lore video when im taking the buss to my new job. These always makes me relaxed
Bravo Galu! 10/10 narration.
The King's Men vs. the Faithful
A.K.A: Tar-Melendur's Folk vs. Silmarien's folk.
Great video as always, keep up the good work from Canada 🇨🇦
Big great as usual. Love these !
I think the upcoming Lord of the rings series on Amazon will cover these events. Is this right or did I dream that up?
Let's hope so i really love the numenoreans :)
What the heck would they have done if they landed on Valinor? They would have been beaten like rented mules
Byu whom? Not by the Valar or Maiar who are not to intervene, let alone hurt, Eru's children.
How so? What organized military force did the Maiar have that would have allowed them to face let alone beat a late industtial era army landing on their shores?
Demigods they may be, but not one act of theirs in the lore demonstrates that they would have extraordinary power.
Why woul Saruman deign to raise an army of uruk hai for example, were it otherwise?
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 They definitely have extraordinary power being able to beat Melkor and all, Saruman however was forbidden and likely unable to use all of it due to restrictions put on him when he went to Middle-earth. The Valar and Maiar are however not allowed to intervene with the free will of Men or Elves, which is why they called upon Eru.
@@ducovanderwoude6971 The most impressive they had ever done is country wide natzral phenomaena.
Could they hurt the host of Númenor? Certainly. Could they defeat it? Unlikely. Individuals in LotR simply do not posess the power to singlehandedly face armies, not even if they are demigods.
16:12 Ar-Pharazon: the new Maeglin (and succeeding where Maeglin failed).
His cousin Elendil and uncle Amandil is NOT very pleased.
I just realised, the sinking of Numenor, sounds like Atlantis-isch. Anyone else?
Ar-agorn
Quite! The King's of Arnor took the SIndarin prefix of 'Ar-' or 'Ara-' in both cases meaning King or Royal. For example, Arvedui whose name meant 'Last King'. Aragorn is usually translated as Warrior King but it has also been suggested as 'King of Valour'
@ wow thanks I thought was a coincidence
Brother your good at all your lore videos you should do one on fingolfin
So I started up Divide and Conquer with my friend and we have the same version and everything and when we went in a multiplayer game it said the data was not compatible. Is the mod not multiplayer? Can someone please help?
Are you sure you have the same? Version from first week is different than others
Why didn't the eagles just destroy the fleet?
Wow a lot of this can be be compared to our own lives in the modern era... losing faith in the Valar... (Turning away form God)... seeking answers to questions (why are we mortal?) even getting some of the answers but persisting in your own self destruction... Turning your life and society into nothing more than pleasure, decadence and excess in order to enjoy your mortality to the fullest and nothing more. How sad and tragic.
Do I need to add anything more?.. No, you absolutely told everything. May this story be a warning to what has become our "modern" world, with climatic change, wars, disputes etc. etc. But there is still hope, if we understand our folly and turn away of this self-destruction. Be well, my friend- even if I will never see you...
@@nikoszaxarias5200 Well, I will add that there's not enough people turning away from religions.
To most other things, I agree.
Go screw a bible.
Well he was both a devout catholic and master of history. The whole thing is a history and story of mankind. We too have long erased ages behind us that would explain the questions of man if only we could unlock the entirety of our past.
Arachir what do I do if I download third age but I’m unable to find the kingdoms.exe files I watched your tutorial but that option isn’t appearing for me
And the third age .bat isn’t showing up either plz help me out arachir 🙏🙏
Excellence
Jesus first artwork just too epic.Beatifull.
do you play star wars battlefront 2?
good video too, by the way
If the Amazon series stays true to Tolkien's work, then it should be absolutely amazing. Then again, with the Woke Plague infecting (and diminishing) almost everything coming out of Hollywood, I'm not getting my hopes up. It's almost as if Sauron had something to do with it.
The story itself seems to suggest that imperialism is bad. Isnt that "woke"? After all, the villians are the purest, most culturaly advanced, whitest people in the world. I could make an argument the original story itself was "woke." Of course, the way you use the word is so vague as to be meaningless.
@@waltonsmith7210 Wow - You're really got time on your hands haven't ya.
Gimilkhad sounds like Trump 🤔
But we like trump here... Why did he get elected?
aaronwallerj by clowns... America is the laughingstock of the world since 2016