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Having the first pick and picking a QB is not a guarantee, we have many teams as an example and this year Caleb Williams who the Bears picked and has not delivered. There was so much talk about him being a QB and that he was going to be one of the best and now he's like this sanders for god sake that's not a guarantee to win in 2025.
Just TANK Baby!!! I’ve been a fan for almost 50 years and this is the first time I ever wanted my team to lose. It sucks. But the worst thing the Raiders could do is win 5 or 6 games and end up picking outside the top 5.
Disagree with Mitch once again. I dont know how I say there’s not a lot of talent on team. We have talent at WR. O LINE, TE, SPECIAL TEAMS, D LINE, CB, LB, SAFETY. We can improve obviously but the talented pieces are there, we need to shore up O line, get QB n WR n another playmaker. Then build depth.
Just Win Baby. Many think drafting the #1 QB is a guarantee to success. Maybe, maybe not. Here are the #1 QB's (first QB taken) drafted in the last 11 drafts: Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Jared Goff, Mitchell Trubisky, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Kenny Pickett, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams. There you go. How many are franchise QB's that took their team to a SB?? Burrow. Maybe two or three others will eventually get their teams there. How many are busts? Winning is always the best cure for losing....hahaha!
I get what you’re saying and normally I’d agree, however no decent or good QB wants to play for the Raiders. Drafting a QB is our only option at this point.
@@OakLosVegasRaiders I agree that the Raiders need to draft a QB. But they need to draft the RIGHT QB, not necessarily the HIGHEST QB. The right QB might be found in the 3rd or 4th round. They have to dig deep to identify THEIR GUY. The data says a #1 pick (which is what many are screaming for) has less than a 50% chance of success. Maybe it is a top guy. We dont know. But they should. A "Tank and Draft" strategy is no strategy at all.
@@KurtAlbers I agree with you, I don’t want them to just pick the a QB because he’s #1 on the list, I want them to be in a good position to choose which QB is best for there needs. I hope they get within the top 5 picks that way if they need to trade up it shouldn’t cost them much.
realistically, tanking is the better choice. Winning this season LITERALLY only sets the team back even further. If we can just suck it up and push the ego aside and lose this season, we'll be much better off in the near future.
McDaniels was the reason we missed out on Stroud. Last season we won and missed out on Daniels. We cannot do it again. We need a home run at QB this year.
@walker1984 I agree. Embrace the tank get young players from the practice squad. Rest your starters. Kinda sucks for in stadium fans on GameDay but considering it's full of opposing fans I don't see the big deal there.
I been a Raiders fan since 1976, but i what to win. So in the big picture tank without saying tank. A top quarterback would change the fortunes of the Raiders. RN4L
You know, you have to understand I never wanted AP because of his experience. You need to have a coach. That's highly experienced for team like the Raiders, because we've gone through so much s*** What's going on right now is the drama show and I'm sick of it. We need a coach Mark Davis should have told Liana. Fell a stick and keep gruden. And I think eventually we would have had a good team. I mean, look what happened, we went to the playoffs. It was clicking.
I want the Raiders to compete each and every week. How are they going to properly evaluate who to keep and who to let go if they aren't seeing 100% effort?
AP is at diversity higher they put a lot of head coaches around him they should have just paid the Arizona coach his money and everything would have been a lot better
Long time watcher, newly Subscribed…you, like me, hate tanking, but this year has been a toilet, and bidet’s are legit to get a clean start. So Just Tank Baby! Shedeur or we’re just swirling around in pizz and shizz yet again. Telesco gets another year at least to draft and spend FA money. AP is better than McDaniels, but if Ben Johnson or Vrabel are in with TB12, go get them! If we lose Graham, demote AP to DC and keep building The Raider Way!
I neer understood the tank thing. You DO NOT want 53+ players getting accustomed to not giving their all and trying to win. That's a horrible culture to embrace.
@@sammcleary Does everyone currently ahead of the Raiders need a QB?
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It's a tough position, but we can't let it burn. We need to see what we have in Ridder and consider drafting a Jaxson Dart as Sanders and Ward will likely be gone.
I think the reason they haven't extended anyone yet is because the front office doesn't know if AP is coming back, Tolesco doesn't wanna saddle a new coach with players he doesn't want
Mitch, I really wish you had gone more in depth about the locker room issues. It seems like just yesterday the players were saying they would run through a wall for AP. Suddenly there’s no cohesion? Please explain.
I agree with you that they need to do everything they can for the future, and that they aren't likely to win many if any games. I really hope we can get Ward. It's Ward or nothing for me. I'm also a Canes fan too so I'm biased lol. Go the U and just win baby for life
Mitch your off again. Thier are many pieces on the team Injuries, offensive scheme., and Qb defined a lot of where we are at . If a new coaching staff is coming in why get rid of good players . Need depth and scheme to make team better. Adams is DIVA and wanted out because he not the main thing and doesn't understand he is not what he once was between dropped balls deteriting skills and huge salary cap hit getting rid of him was great move.
Mich, it makes sense. For once read Hondo Carpenter report on Davante. AP is fighting for his job so he made changes at OC and given the uncertainty about 2025 Mark and the front office are on wait and see mode. Makes no sense to sign any player long term if the coaching staff doesn’t come back. Is not that hard to read between the lines TBH
I just want some wins so I can enjoy my Sundays instead of being depressed and embarrassed by the performance of our Raiders. Hope it can all change for the better with the firing of the three coaches, Just win baby! baby.👊🏽
Give a man some time to build up this team a doesn’t happen overnight I know we been struggling for minute but just give the chance to get it done Raiderssssssss !!!!
I saw the Jets in the red zone. Not sure why Adams was running that route, I think I know how to use him better than the Jets do…. He kinda dropped the ball but he wasn’t open either 🤣
hate to say it but just tank baby. If you look at the schedule, our winnable games are the Jags or Saints. AP hiring Luke Getsy literally cost him his job as he should fire him after week 3. If we win 6 out of 8 games, we most likely miss getting our QB but we keep AP. I'm that type of Raiders fan that like winning but hate losing.
Years ago the Raiders won a meaningless late season game vs either Buffalo or Den late in the season, the end result was a 3 way tie with SF/NYJ and us…we lost the coin flip (even though SF beat us soundly during that season. We lost out on either Q Williams or N Bosa, we drafted Clelin Ferrell, so JUST TANK baby! Could’ve wound up with Bosa and Crosby
Teaching the will to win is more important than draft picks walking into a losing mentality telling them winning is no big deal. Draft picks aren't garranteed
You don't build a winning culture by losing...and evaluating this line up PRIOR to re-signing anyone is smart, and definitely suggests that there is an ongoing evaluation of the roster, from head to toe.
😂 lol they been trying to win. Only the excuses makers were saying they were tanking just because they suck. I guess saying they are trying to lose makes some fans feel and pretend they don't suck. Oh by the way you were also pretending they team was tanking Mitch 😂
Been watching the Raiders since the late 60's. It's so hard for me to root for the team when they makes so many bad decisions. I do not understand why Mark lets people bully him. He never should've hire AP as the head coach. He should've got Jim Harbaugh a proven winner.
If we can't protect a mediocre QB, what makes us think we can protect a franchise QB? There's more to it than a QB in my opinion. With that said, JUST WIN BABY!
1-JUST WIN, BABY! .. U NEVER EVER SURRENDER. PERIOD. 2-Its a business. Use the new guys 2 see what we have, but we're also playing 4 our players as much as the team. U shouldn't be trying 2 tank. U shouldn't want 2 limit players who could find better teams/money next year cos "we want tank". Quitting on any level (player, team, coaches, owner, fans) is NOT who we are in Raider Nation.
JUST TANK BABY. It pains me to type those words, but firing coaches now ensures we win 3-4 more games like last year.This ensures we drop out of a meaningful draft position😢
Gardner minshew to me looks really good when there's good play calls, I feel like he gets put in bad situations and all the weight falls on him to make a play. Luke getsy is josh mcdaniels twin as far as trying to sabotage the raiders. We show we can put together a good drive it's the consistency that's not there
Just Win Baby. I don't care what! I've been a Raider for over 60 years!! I'm NEVER going to tell a professional football player not to play. If they agree to tank, I want them GONE.
I hate Tanking, it's a tough decision to make and impacts all the players who are in contract years or starters who may get replaced because they want to see what a rookie can do. Loosing causes so many things to be blurry. All that said, play all the backups and see who is staying and who is going, it's a business and that's the best "business decision" to make right now. Maybe you accidently win a game or two.
New owner. Find a good scout. Madden found hidden talent and plugged it in. Need a vertical passing game. Rich Gannon for head coach . O line and pass defense r the keys.
Two years in a row the Raiders have celebrated Festivas, and had the airing of grievances half way through a season!! This team has been cooked since week 5. It’s another year of moving on and I’m talking about loosing the entire staff.. No coach in their right mind would come in here with a partial staff still in tact, it’s more of the same as Al had with his regime. Coaches and staff members were grandfathered in and it probably made it easy to decline the job with that in place. I’m almost certain we could have gotten younger minded coaches 30 years ago when Bellichek and Payton were coming up but not having complete otonomy drove those coaches away..
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We do our best to win. If we are outside top 10 picks. Trade picks or players we can do with out to move up
Having the first pick and picking a QB is not a guarantee, we have many teams as an example and this year Caleb Williams who the Bears picked and has not delivered. There was so much talk about him being a QB and that he was going to be one of the best and now he's like this sanders for god sake that's not a guarantee to win in 2025.
Just beat the N.O. Saints
JWB
In a modern league where it is rare to win a SB without a franchise quarterback, i say tank. All these half ass seasons have been killin us.
Adams is finding out that the grass isn't greener on the other side
But they do have green uniforms, so technically it is greener. Hehe
Amen lol
The jets will forever be trash.
So happy for Davante. Lmao
He didn't go for Mary Jane green...lol
Just TANK Baby!!! I’ve been a fan for almost 50 years and this is the first time I ever wanted my team to lose. It sucks. But the worst thing the Raiders could do is win 5 or 6 games and end up picking outside the top 5.
What the Hell are you saying? I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN A RAIDERS FAN FOR FIFTY PLUS YEARS..
@@ronnash4078 WTH do you expect? No win situation here and any win they get is only gonna hurt their chances next draft. TANK only option!
Tanking is winning in 2024! Sad to say but I want the #1 pick and the best coach In three decades to come out of retirement.
No don’t tank got to commit to excellence every game 👍
@@5049usrluvtyx Thank you!
Just Tank Baby! Can't handle 20 more years of this crap!
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It’s been over 40 years. But any fan saying hey I hope we lose, they’re obviously just homosexual.
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@@TheeOriginalSurferbob your profile picture looks like a homosexual 🤣
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Disagree with Mitch once again. I dont know how I say there’s not a lot of talent on team. We have talent at WR. O LINE, TE, SPECIAL TEAMS, D LINE, CB, LB, SAFETY. We can improve obviously but the talented pieces are there, we need to shore up O line, get QB n WR n another playmaker. Then build depth.
There is a lot of talent on our team for damn sure ! I hate to say it but Mitch doesn’t really know to much
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Just Win Baby. Many think drafting the #1 QB is a guarantee to success. Maybe, maybe not. Here are the #1 QB's (first QB taken) drafted in the last 11 drafts: Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Jared Goff, Mitchell Trubisky, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Kenny Pickett, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams. There you go. How many are franchise QB's that took their team to a SB?? Burrow. Maybe two or three others will eventually get their teams there. How many are busts? Winning is always the best cure for losing....hahaha!
I get what you’re saying and normally I’d agree, however no decent or good QB wants to play for the Raiders. Drafting a QB is our only option at this point.
@@OakLosVegasRaiders I agree that the Raiders need to draft a QB. But they need to draft the RIGHT QB, not necessarily the HIGHEST QB. The right QB might be found in the 3rd or 4th round. They have to dig deep to identify THEIR GUY. The data says a #1 pick (which is what many are screaming for) has less than a 50% chance of success. Maybe it is a top guy. We dont know. But they should. A "Tank and Draft" strategy is no strategy at all.
Those quarterbacks were drafted by losing franchises with bigger problems in the organization. Burrow is the exception he should come to Vegas.
@@KurtAlbers I agree with you, I don’t want them to just pick the a QB because he’s #1 on the list, I want them to be in a good position to choose which QB is best for there needs. I hope they get within the top 5 picks that way if they need to trade up it shouldn’t cost them much.
Yeah, number one draft recorder back doesn't mean anything. He could get injured in his first play from scrimmage and never play again
Should have tried to trade Andre James. JPJ at center permanently, get some guards in the offseason to go with Meredith
realistically, tanking is the better choice. Winning this season LITERALLY only sets the team back even further. If we can just suck it up and push the ego aside and lose this season, we'll be much better off in the near future.
Play the 1-2 year players and see what you have for next season.
McDaniels was the reason we missed out on Stroud. Last season we won and missed out on Daniels. We cannot do it again. We need a home run at QB this year.
@walker1984 I agree. Embrace the tank get young players from the practice squad. Rest your starters. Kinda sucks for in stadium fans on GameDay but considering it's full of opposing fans I don't see the big deal there.
@justinshively9530 the only way you will change that is by winning. Start with the little things and build from there.
I been a Raiders fan since 1976, but i what to win. So in the big picture tank without saying tank. A top quarterback would change the fortunes of the Raiders. RN4L
TANK
Having that not tanking mentality has done what for the Raiders for the last 25 years?
Been a fan since 1967.....I hate losing but it's time to tank😢😢😢😢😢
You know, you have to understand I never wanted AP because of his experience. You need to have a coach. That's highly experienced for team like the Raiders, because we've gone through so much s*** What's going on right now is the drama show and I'm sick of it. We need a coach Mark Davis should have told Liana. Fell a stick and keep gruden. And I think eventually we would have had a good team. I mean, look what happened, we went to the playoffs.
It was clicking.
You can't hand someone the keys to a Pinto & expect them to win the race. There's no way you can put this on AP. Davis should have traded up for a QB.
I want the Raiders to compete each and every week. How are they going to properly evaluate who to keep and who to let go if they aren't seeing 100% effort?
Just win baby. Who says the top echelon QB's are going to make it in the NFL?
AP is at diversity higher they put a lot of head coaches around him they should have just paid the Arizona coach his money and everything would have been a lot better
Best video you've put out in a long while Mitch. Reality check!!! Good work.
My Head say: just Tank Baby
My heart: just win baby
Just Win Baby!!
Mitchell it's your birthday? Well happy B'day...😅
We play the game to win to win just win baby
Just Tank Baby!!!! We need that first round pick ASAP
Just Win Baby! We can always get Great Trench Picks and let’s face it we NEED to beef up the Offensive Line or No Quarterback will do Anything.
Just keep Minshew at QB! That’s how u tank without “tanking”
Just win baby!
Just win baby never tank!!
The guy holding up the sign that says "What have we got to lose?" by playing Ridder. Maybe that should read "What have we GOT TO DO to lose?" 🤣🤣
Just win baby.
Beat the chiefs would be epic AF .
Long time watcher, newly Subscribed…you, like me, hate tanking, but this year has been a toilet, and bidet’s are legit to get a clean start. So Just Tank Baby! Shedeur or we’re just swirling around in pizz and shizz yet again. Telesco gets another year at least to draft and spend FA money. AP is better than McDaniels, but if Ben Johnson or Vrabel are in with TB12, go get them! If we lose Graham, demote AP to DC and keep building The Raider Way!
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FIRE AP FOR STARTING MINSHEW
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I neer understood the tank thing. You DO NOT want 53+ players getting accustomed to not giving their all and trying to win. That's a horrible culture to embrace.
Are you a coach?
So if we win and drop in the draft how do we get a good qb???
@@sammcleary Does everyone currently ahead of the Raiders need a QB?
It's a tough position, but we can't let it burn. We need to see what we have in Ridder and consider drafting a Jaxson Dart as Sanders and Ward will likely be gone.
Tanking since 2002 with mediocre results 😢
Tank... Get the #1 pick, dtaft QB Sanders, trade 1- 2 1st rounds picks to move back into the top 3 and draft WR Hunter.
So, in other words, more of what we've seen over the last 20+ years. More bad decisions by Mark Davis which is at the core of all this dysfunction.
We need a Franchise QB .... Only way to getbone is finish at the bottom
Actions don’t make any sense because Davis is the dumbest owner in sports
I think the reason they haven't extended anyone yet is because the front office doesn't know if AP is coming back, Tolesco doesn't wanna saddle a new coach with players he doesn't want
Mitch, I really wish you had gone more in depth about the locker room issues. It seems like just yesterday the players were saying they would run through a wall for AP. Suddenly there’s no cohesion? Please explain.
I agree with you that they need to do everything they can for the future, and that they aren't likely to win many if any games. I really hope we can get Ward. It's Ward or nothing for me. I'm also a Canes fan too so I'm biased lol. Go the U and just win baby for life
Fight ! Fight ! Fight! Don’t quit fighting! ✊🏽
Mitch your off again. Thier are many pieces on the team Injuries, offensive scheme., and Qb defined a lot of where we are at . If a new coaching staff is coming in why get rid of good players . Need depth and scheme to make team better. Adams is DIVA and wanted out because he not the main thing and doesn't understand he is not what he once was between dropped balls deteriting skills and huge salary cap hit getting rid of him was great move.
Center is a tougher position than guard. Could andre James play guard
JUST WIN BABY!!!!
If we can beat KC on the 29th I’m good with that
Please beat the Broncos. I am going to that home game.
Just tank baby, sorry but we needs a first round top pick QB.
Mich, it makes sense. For once read Hondo Carpenter report on Davante. AP is fighting for his job so he made changes at OC and given the uncertainty about 2025 Mark and the front office are on wait and see mode. Makes no sense to sign any player long term if the coaching staff doesn’t come back. Is not that hard to read between the lines TBH
Mitch: tank and get a franchise QB.
Also Mitch: trade away all you're good players.
What's up mitch! Noty gang
noti gang!
Tank!! But honestly, we don't have to try.
JUST *WIN*, BABY!!! DAMN all that tank talk!
Just tank baby!!!!
First hi love your video and keep up the great work you are awesome
noti gang!
Good morning nation
noti gang!
My current Raider fan status... I want to win but won't be mad if we lose. Still on the AP train
I just want some wins so I can enjoy my Sundays instead of being depressed and embarrassed by the performance of our Raiders. Hope it can all change for the better with the firing of the three coaches, Just win baby! baby.👊🏽
The locker room issue is on both players and coaches. Team leaders and captains are also at fault
You fire mid season to early prepare next season. Building more chemistry for a fresh start next season
Give a man some time to build up this team a doesn’t happen overnight I know we been struggling for minute but just give the chance to get it done
Raiderssssssss !!!!
Right!!! The Cap space money and draft capital 💰 to negotiate with teams for a Quarterback
I saw the Jets in the red zone. Not sure why Adams was running that route, I think I know how to use him better than the Jets do…. He kinda dropped the ball but he wasn’t open either 🤣
After adams, there wasn't anything for us to sell at the deadline. our core is young enough to where we can keep them and still continue forward
hate to say it but just tank baby. If you look at the schedule, our winnable games are the Jags or Saints. AP hiring Luke Getsy literally cost him his job as he should fire him after week 3. If we win 6 out of 8 games, we most likely miss getting our QB but we keep AP. I'm that type of Raiders fan that like winning but hate losing.
Years ago the Raiders won a meaningless late season game vs either Buffalo or Den late in the season, the end result was a 3 way tie with SF/NYJ and us…we lost the coin flip (even though SF beat us soundly during that season. We lost out on either Q Williams or N Bosa, we drafted Clelin Ferrell, so JUST TANK baby! Could’ve wound up with Bosa and Crosby
Good show Michael about the time off Lol
Teaching the will to win is more important than draft picks walking into a losing mentality telling them winning is no big deal. Draft picks aren't garranteed
99.9% of Raider fans think differently
The will to win is not anything that can be taught.You either have it or you don'
Duh the ethics of this situation is to always give it one’s best at every position!!
Was up nation
noti gang!
They fired those coaches to keep the fans support they were the a scapegoat with the bad offensive line we have still RN4L ❤🏈
You don't build a winning culture by losing...and evaluating this line up PRIOR to re-signing anyone is smart, and definitely suggests that there is an ongoing evaluation of the roster, from head to toe.
Teams don't come together over losses they come together over wins
NOTI GANG
SHEUDER SANDERS WAS ON “it was it is” show this morning.. HE WILL BE A RAIDER
😂 lol they been trying to win. Only the excuses makers were saying they were tanking just because they suck. I guess saying they are trying to lose makes some fans feel and pretend they don't suck. Oh by the way you were also pretending they team was tanking Mitch 😂
Been watching the Raiders since the late 60's. It's so hard for me to root for the team when they makes so many bad decisions. I do not understand why Mark lets people bully him. He never should've hire AP as the head coach. He should've got Jim Harbaugh a proven winner.
AP should be our Dfence coach I love the guys let’s put him where he is the best at
If AP is fired, do you think Tom Telesco will have a say in HC or will mark hire who he wants?
If he is GM yes
@@RaidersReportwho do you think he would have as HC?
If we can't protect a mediocre QB, what makes us think we can protect a franchise QB? There's more to it than a QB in my opinion. With that said, JUST WIN BABY!
Noti gang
noti gang!
1-JUST WIN, BABY! .. U NEVER EVER SURRENDER. PERIOD.
2-Its a business. Use the new guys 2 see what we have, but we're also playing 4 our players as much as the team.
U shouldn't be trying 2 tank. U shouldn't want 2 limit players who could find better teams/money next year cos "we want tank".
Quitting on any level (player, team, coaches, owner, fans) is NOT who we are in Raider Nation.
If you are a player and you're not trying to win. Your job is on the line. PERIOD. What player is going to tank to lose their job. Hopefully none!
JUST TANK BABY. It pains me to type those words, but firing coaches now ensures we win 3-4 more games like last year.This ensures we drop out of a meaningful draft position😢
JUS TANK BABY....WE SHOULD'VE BEEN THINKIN ABT THAT B4 WEEK 1 WITH THE 2 QB'S THE RAIDERS HAVE STARTING
Gardner minshew to me looks really good when there's good play calls, I feel like he gets put in bad situations and all the weight falls on him to make a play. Luke getsy is josh mcdaniels twin as far as trying to sabotage the raiders. We show we can put together a good drive it's the consistency that's not there
The Raiders traded Adams because Adams requested a trade. He didn’t want to be in Las Vegas anymore.
Just Win Baby. I don't care what! I've been a Raider for over 60 years!! I'm NEVER going to tell a professional football player not to play. If they agree to tank, I want them GONE.
Season is literally over.....Just tank baby, its time we become a serious playoff contending team EVERY SEASON
I hate Tanking, it's a tough decision to make and impacts all the players who are in contract years or starters who may get replaced because they want to see what a rookie can do. Loosing causes so many things to be blurry. All that said, play all the backups and see who is staying and who is going, it's a business and that's the best "business decision" to make right now. Maybe you accidently win a game or two.
Just Tank Baby...it's best for our Raiders. We need to identify and get our future QB. Winning some games now just makes it more difficult to do that.
Every raider game I rooting for the other team bc I rather have a future franchise QB than suffer another year of hopelessness
New owner. Find a good scout. Madden found hidden talent and plugged it in. Need a vertical passing game. Rich Gannon for head coach . O line and pass defense r the keys.
Just Rebuild Baby
Firing coaches is not the answer. We need consistency there too.
Davis shouldn't expect too much because we still don't have a qb.
It doesn’t matter if they get the #1 pick 10 YEARS IN A ROW 😂 Mark Davis is CLUELESS
Two years in a row the Raiders have celebrated Festivas, and had the airing of grievances half way through a season!! This team has been cooked since week 5. It’s another year of moving on and I’m talking about loosing the entire staff.. No coach in their right mind would come in here with a partial staff still in tact, it’s more of the same as Al had with his regime. Coaches and staff members were grandfathered in and it probably made it easy to decline the job with that in place. I’m almost certain we could have gotten younger minded coaches 30 years ago when Bellichek and Payton were coming up but not having complete otonomy drove those coaches away..
I said it before and I say it again, as long as Mark Davis is the owner it will always be the same.