Top Lyne Winnipeg Jets - Playing Chess, not Checkers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- On today’s special offseason report of Top Lyne Winnipeg Jets, Nik and Brady are here breaking down the draft, the opening of Free Agency, Dylan DeMelo signing a new deal, Nate Schmidt being bought out and the potential trades of Rutger McGroaty and Nik Ehlers. Can Chevy piece together a winning roster via trade now that the big names are off the Free Agency board? Is he playing Chess or Checkers? Let’s find out.
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Great show Nik and Brady.... in answer to your question about Slafkovsky, he's getting 7.6m x 8 years = 60.8m.
Really good thoughts all around. I support going with a youth movement, with guidance by the vets on the team. I think that's the key to success for this team.
Thanks Phyllis!
Also thanks for the correction!
I really think it’ll work itself out even if it wasn’t Plan A. I was never big on Plan A
Another fun n enlightening episode..I’m at my cabin most of the summer n haven’t seen a lot of content lately but glad I got updated..I actually thought the lack of action from Chevy was a bad thing but you’ve talked me into this being ok..have a great summer boys
Thank you Gilbert, have a fantastic summer and enjoy the cabin !
Good pod guys. I agree with you on most of your points. Avoided the Mony grenade (but we were trying so…). Chance for the young guys to show their stuff - yes! Finally. Signings and draft picks this year - solid.
However, let’s not kid ourselves, this is a damaged organization that now has virtually no chance at the Cup for at least another 3-4 years, if at all.
Wpg is the least favourable destination in the league. We can’t change the Canadian tax structure. We can’t change the Wpg winter. Spare few want to be here….and now it’s prospects. I don’t buy the McG no ice time / Moose argument….I’m with Sean Reynold….McG didn’t want to be here a la CutterG. That one is on management. They are paid to know trends and risks. Jets can’t and shouldn’t have gone to the draft table and drafted a US college kid in the 1st, knowing the reputation of the team. The risk has always been there…we got lucky with KFC so far (but he’s almost assuredly leaving), got a few years from Trouba. Many other examples with Adam Fox leading the way.
And let’s not even talk about prospect management…
But as you said, plan B is an option I don’t mind going down even though it likely lead to short term pain (lottery in our near future). But I’m looking forward to seeing Perfetti, Lambert, Heinola and Salo and then Chib and Barlow get their trials by fire. Heck, even Stanley….okay I went off the rails there.
The fact we were trying and failed could definitely be looked at as a negative on management. I’m just most excited that we arrived at a place I wanted this org to end up at
My confidence is still rather short with where it goes from here, but this situation is ideal.
Hard to disagree with yourself on it being a damaged organization with no chance at a cup in that window. I think very few would disagree truly.
Yes to all the above on Winnipeg and what it is, and I could see the case for Renny nailing this. At the end, regardless of conclusion, we do arrive at the same spot and that it’s this org got themselves into this pickle and should’ve known better, I put that on them more than anyone. It’s frustrating.
Plan B was always the plan in Winnipeg that gives the Jets a long term *chance*, if could fail. But Plan A… was org suicide. 1st round playoff ceiling gradually drifting into an old, expensive rebuild with no real assets. We avoided that, and for that, I’m thankful
My thoughts on the topics presented:
Demelo contract: Totally agree on fair market value on his individual skill set. Slight disagree on hidden value, I think the extra value won't be on his individual contributions, but on his partner most likely playing his best hockey with Demelo on the ice. Elevating his partner is where the Jets get real value out of that 4.9M
schmidt buyout: Totally agree, great minds think alike. No notes
Draft: On the picks, I think they're largely solid. Freij looks intriguing as a really good skating lefty. He could be a Tanev-type energy guy going full speed, full-time. Dont have much to say on the Fin C, well see how that goes. And with your last pick why not throw a dart at a 6'6" C that's shown some flashes.
Rutger: I was route 1 personally, I think adding an impact young player helps the age group we have in Vilardi-Barlow Age group and focuses those primes at similar times. I think there could be more than a roster spot as a sticking point between the 2. If it was just that with all the F contracts ending it would just mean signing in the spring and I would doubt that plan would create the irreparable situation we hearing about. If it is just not being promised a spot then bye, I have no issues with the org taking the stance that roster spots aren't won on the negotiating table.
FAs: Dillon will be the only one I'll truly miss but I can see why he wasn't retained. Happy for LB, was never coming back would have preferred he go out east lol. Missing Mony is a massive blessing in disguise that some may not realize for 2-3 years
Signings: I think Comrie is a cheap vibes pickup, I have no issues with it, I'd rather pay 800k for vibes than 6M. Kakhonen is there to fight for Helle's backup spot with Comrie. Miller will give Ville a solid D partner on the 3rd pair, he's a trigger guy from the blue line while Ville is a pure distributor, so they could work pretty well.
YOUTH: I have so much time for Lambert 2C with a long runway. He had a similar production season as KFC with an arguably worse Moose team and has shown to be a true C given his struggles at Wing from his D-1 year to until he was sent to Seattle. I loved watching him this past year and has made some truly elite plays. Salo could easily be a very good 2RD, skating and a mean streak combo in an RHD is such a good find in the 2nd. I have time for Chibby and Barlow in 2-3 years. 1 or 2 more guys in this age range coming back in a trade working out and the future is real bright
Julien, we’ve been going back and forth elsewhere all day, so not going to spend too much time answering point for point
Just wanted to say, thank you for being such a great presence in our comments, and jets socials, always enjoy how much thought you put into these discussion 🫡
@@TopLyneMedia totally understand lol. Happy to keep having meaningful discussions going.
Jets have a new coaching staff, and we are finally giving the prospects a chance, we have alot to look forward to as Jets fans
Agreed
AGREE ON VILLI N MILLER AS THURD PAIRN, MAYB STAN 7TH
BUT PIONK WIT SAMBERG SCARES ME, LIKE THE YOUTH MOVEMENT
COULD SEE SALO PUSHN INTO LINEUP IN JAN
HOW BOUT RUTGER N AI FOR NECAS ALLTHO LILGREN N ROBERTSON WRKS
I’d do either of those buddy! Samberg-Pionk scares me too LOL
Chevy is playing hold em with one card.
LOL made me laugh
You also seem to think the jets will be in every deal or signing. This roster won't make the playoffs.
The Jets will be in every signing or trade? And I think this? In this market? Not even close
Potentially won’t, don’t see that as a bad thing for a year personally. Rather miss and draft higher than get rolled round 1 year over year
Demelo is not that great his numbers are inflated by 44's play. Demelo cannot win battles on the boards. He has NO upside sorry.
Appreciate the comment, it’s okay to be wrong. At 31, who’s expecting upside? We know who he is, and that’s a very good 2nd pairing dman.
Both partners have benefitted from each other, but of course 44 is the horse