I never understood the problem folks had with cleaning their firearms. Good way to get to know them. I'll clean sometimes just because I haven't used them for a while!
I hate cleaning black powder since I mostly fire double barrels and revolvers that have tons of places for the filth to get to and I make sure to get every speck off them. I’ve never had a problem cleaning smokeless and it has been a habit since I first started shooting to clean as soon as I get home from the range
I do the same Chris, I have some firearms I love but they are my "hobby" pieces and don't get used as much so I drag them out and clean them periodically.
Hi Mark. I am a new subscriber, but have been a black powder shooter for around 40 years. Your cleaning routine is fairly close to mine, with a few exceptions. I clean my black powder cartridge guns at the range before I come home. Presently I use MPRO-7 to clean the bore, and I use a ..41 cal nylon bore brush instead of a jag. I find it works better than a jag does( used a jag for years, and still do on occasion). When I get home, I give the rifle another cleaning, but I use Hoppes #9. I don't have any Colt rifles, but shoot Sharps and Winchester lever guns. Also, black powder fowling isn't so much corrosive, as it is hygroscopic ( attracts moisture from the air, and will result in rusting. The more humid the climate, the worse the rusting.) Keep up the videos. I enjoy them, and would like to a lightning disassembled.
Great video. Thanks. Great point about using cleaning rod guides. My high wall from 1898 in 32-40 has no rifling for about a half inch from the muzzle. It still shoots very well with the Loverin style 323470 so I don't worry about it, and I always use a guide to not make it worse.
I am! I just got in from an opening morning hunt. Put in several miles up and down the mountain, but didn't get any shooting in. It didn't seem like exercise 'til I got home and sat down. 😉 Now I'm starting to feel it. Even a tough day hunting beats the best day in the shop!
@@thecinnabar8442 wow you’re out hunting already, well I hope you get one on your next hunting trip. our bow season don’t even start until the 15th firearm season doesn’t start until November 20
Except for shooting the smokeless round last, I was pleased to see you have nearly the same cleaning routine that I’ve been using. Even to the extent of reusing the other side of the patch. Cheap German. 😂 I used hot soapy water on my muzzleloader but have settled on 10% Ballistol and water for my and single shots. Works great. Thanks for sharing your process with us Mark. 😊
Great video as always!! Cleaning up black powder versus smokeless isn't all that more work. The pay-off is worth it! Thank you for making this video! Good luck on your hunt with that special rifle! That's pretty neat!
Thanks for the video! Allot of good advice here! I use a piece of rubber hose wich fits the chamber, taped with duckttape to a small plastic funnel. First thing I do when cleaning is, insert it in the chamber and poor hot water through. Then use cleaning patches some windex and finnish with a light coat of gun oil. It works for my Trapdoor, Gras, Rolling Block and Borchardt. Still every bore is different, it takes way more patches in the Trapdoor then in the Borchardt.
Hi Mike! Enjoyed the video. I’m a flintlock builder and shooter. Plain water has always been my cleaning medium. Hoppes gun oil afterward. Appreciated the tip about the Windex and bluing! I’ll give it a try. Cheers!
Hi Mark.Love the old Blackpowder Cartridge rifles .I have a CPA Stevens 45-90 with a 38-56 Barrel i can swap out it ,They use the same extractor to which i use a cut down case drill out the primer hole place it on my cleaning rod Keep it centered.Still use a cone shape one for my levers just like you do the joys of shooting Blackpowder would not want it any other way.thoroughly enjoy your videos as the Majestic views of the Cinnabar. Cheers From Australia
Great Video! When I was a young man, learning about historical firearms, and going to gun shows, my dream was to purchase an original Winchester, Colt or Sharps rifle from the Old West period to have and shoot. It was a warm fuzzy feeling, but I am very glad I was poor back in those days. What are the odds those old rifles were cleaned properly back in the day after every firing by Cowboys and Indians?🤣Not likely ever if at all. If it wasn't a museum piece from day one it was used up quickly and corrosion took over almost every bore. So, I have a collection of Italian replicas that I have a lot of fun shooting to my hearts content.
Nice Mark just a heads up we use delrin rods for our sharps rifles with a jag turned on the end and a 8-32 insert for a nylon brush. Now when were shooting we clean between shots one damp patch with a 50/50 mix of distilled water and that pink rv antifreeze followed by a dry patch.
Thanks for showing how to clean the rifles with BP . Also what to use to clean it , I am use to clean the muzzle loader . I use Murphy oil mix with Rubbing Alcohol in my muzzle loader. It dose not take much to clean it , the down side is that if you do not take the muzzle loader apart you will take the finish off the stock.
Great video to show how easy it can be to clean up if your prepared. I used to carry a pull through and a pocket sized bottle of Windex and Hoppys to clean up after shooting while out camping for the weekend then do a better job once home, does Windex hurt the bore if left? Nice Sharps.
No firearm is cleaner than a properly cleaned blackpowder firearm. Some of my shoot'n buddies would leave the last fired (fire-formed) cartridge in the breech while doing the initial crud removal.
Forgot to mention that I use a bore snake to clean all my lever guns after shooting smokeless powder. Works great cause you can clean from the chamber forward to the muzzle.
It's not going to work in the field conditions, but goodness, we should just shove a hot water hose with a tapered sealing wedge into the action, and crank up the water full power. Watch all that black gunk fly right out of the muzzle. haha Dry and lubricate the bore immediately after, of course.
Even before the video is getting going I can tell you the only two things on that table you need for black powder cleaning is the windex and the Ballistol. Actually plain water and Ballistol is all you need and generally all I use.
cinnabar ... i saw a video of yours where you removed rust.. with clip and kboil ...... i'm not sure what those products are ...... could you give me more details on what products / cleaners/oil i need to buy
I'm surprised you didn't say anything about cleaning the inside of the magazine tube. On my replica 1873 lever action, the mag tube is by far the rustiest and hardest to clean, even with stainless steel spring and follower.
Not a bad idea to open up the mag tube and clean it from time to time but it would be a little overkill to dismantle the mag tube and clean it after each shooting. I don't know anybody who does that.
Is there anything wrong with using a pull-through device to knock the major portion of the gunk out the muzzle for the first step before using a rod from the muzzle? I think I would do that first thing.
Nothing wrong with that. As I mentioned in the video, there are many variations to cleaning a rifle after shooting black powder and I was showing my method. Use the method you like.
Can ya talk with us about gun cleaning and maintaining protection for Us that have bigger numbers of old guns packed in many large safes? It gets daunting!
Great idea following up with a smokeless round to aid in the the cleaning process. Would it regular smokeless round be better, than a reduced load smokeless round ( the mimicking blackpowder kind ) for cleaning the barrel ? Thank you, Cheers, Cornelius
Shooting a smokeless round is sort of like my practice of shooting a regular jacketed round through my revolvers after a day of shooting cast bullet loads. It cleans out any leading and leaves the bore nice and clean. Then clean as normal after that.
There are some of my old Milsurp rifles that never come clean...one I literally cleaned for a week, using many dozens of patches, probably over a hundred, and it never gets clean.... I even used foaming bore cleaner and left it in for a day or more and the patches still come out black or blue (copper). I just gave up
@@grassroot011 With my BP revolvers and cylinders I use a bare nylon brush few strokes to loosen particulates up, then a patch or two wet with Moose Milk (1 part Ballistol 8 parts distilled water) then use a small high pressure distilled water steamer kettle (Walmart about $30) blasts the bore spotless right out the muzzle and heats the barrel good then dry it with a couple dry patches and then finally a patch damp with straight Ballistol. Same with the barrel/frame outsides without the bore brush.
Excellent point to bring up! Your brass will need to be neutralized and cleaned just as PDQ as the firearms. Whenever I shoot BPCR (black powder cartridge rifle) , I always take a gallon water jug filled with water and a splash of Dawn Dish Soap. At the range, after each shot, the brass goes right into that jug and stays till I get home. Bouncing around in the truck plus a few good swishes causes the water to get really cruddy. When home, a good rinse or two in windex/Dawn/hot water. Then a pass through a universal de-capper die
I have a Pedersoli Replica 1873 Springfield Trapdoor Carbine 45/70. Is any disassembly required to clean after black powder, or can I do just as you did with the Colt Lightening? DJ
Black powder cartridge > after a shot i drop the case into a 2L plastic milk container full of soapy water " next day unscrew the lid shake those buggers out into a bucket > couple twists with the 45cal cleaning brush > de-prime - flush with clean water - let dry - into the media tumbler !
I have two cleaning kits one for black one for smokeless don't want to get black powder residue in my smokeless gun just water works fine they didn't have all those chemicals in the civil war
Haha! Toilet paper was in short supply during the Civil War too, but I'd just as soon live in the modern world and take advantage of our modern conveniences. 🤣
Very educational video. Those two old rifles are absolute beauties. Always enjoy seeing how other folk clean black powder. Thanks
I never understood the problem folks had with cleaning their firearms. Good way to get to know them. I'll clean sometimes just because I haven't used them for a while!
I agree with Chris, cleaning my long guns and handguns is a pleasure to me, even my flintlocks. Sometimes I clean them when they are not even dirty 😊
@Lamatrise Fontain yep!
I hate cleaning black powder since I mostly fire double barrels and revolvers that have tons of places for the filth to get to and I make sure to get every speck off them.
I’ve never had a problem cleaning smokeless and it has been a habit since I first started shooting to clean as soon as I get home from the range
I do the same Chris, I have some firearms I love but they are my "hobby" pieces and don't get used as much so I drag them out and clean them periodically.
@@paulnormandin5267 everybody deserves some attention!😅
Always nice to hear the words "Well welcome to the Cinnabar"! Thank you.
Nice! Good job keeping those historical old guns in top condition! Thanks!
Hi Mark. I am a new subscriber, but have been a black powder shooter for around 40 years. Your cleaning routine is fairly close to mine, with a few exceptions. I clean my black powder cartridge guns at the range before I come home. Presently I use MPRO-7 to clean the bore, and I use a ..41 cal nylon bore brush instead of a jag. I find it works better than a jag does( used a jag for years, and still do on occasion). When I get home, I give the rifle another cleaning, but I use Hoppes #9. I don't have any Colt rifles, but shoot Sharps and Winchester lever guns.
Also, black powder fowling isn't so much corrosive, as it is hygroscopic ( attracts moisture from the air, and will result in rusting. The more humid the climate, the worse the rusting.)
Keep up the videos. I enjoy them, and would like to a lightning disassembled.
Great to see another video! I do my BP rifles a little different, but basically the same. Thanks for the video.
Great video. Thanks. Great point about using cleaning rod guides. My high wall from 1898 in 32-40 has no rifling for about a half inch from the muzzle. It still shoots very well with the Loverin style 323470 so I don't worry about it, and I always use a guide to not make it worse.
Hello Mark, hope you’re having an excellent Saturday morning
Hi Brother 😎👍🏼
I am! I just got in from an opening morning hunt. Put in several miles up and down the mountain, but didn't get any shooting in. It didn't seem like exercise 'til I got home and sat down. 😉 Now I'm starting to feel it. Even a tough day hunting beats the best day in the shop!
@@thecinnabar8442 wow you’re out hunting already, well I hope you get one on your next hunting trip. our bow season don’t even start until the 15th firearm season doesn’t start until November 20
Except for shooting the smokeless round last, I was pleased to see you have nearly the same cleaning routine that I’ve been using. Even to the extent of reusing the other side of the patch. Cheap German. 😂 I used hot soapy water on my muzzleloader but have settled on 10% Ballistol and water for my and single shots. Works great. Thanks for sharing your process with us Mark. 😊
Great video as always!! Cleaning up black powder versus smokeless isn't all that more work. The pay-off is worth it! Thank you for making this video! Good luck on your hunt with that special rifle! That's pretty neat!
Great idea to turn the rifle upside down. Never thought of that
Thanks for the video! Allot of good advice here!
I use a piece of rubber hose wich fits the chamber, taped with duckttape to a small plastic funnel. First thing I do when cleaning is, insert it in the chamber and poor hot water through. Then use cleaning patches some windex and finnish with a light coat of gun oil. It works for my Trapdoor, Gras, Rolling Block and Borchardt. Still every bore is different, it takes way more patches in the Trapdoor then in the Borchardt.
Hi Mike! Enjoyed the video. I’m a flintlock builder and shooter. Plain water has always been my cleaning medium. Hoppes gun oil afterward. Appreciated the tip about the Windex and bluing! I’ll give it a try. Cheers!
Good video and useful info. Hope to see a video on a successful deer hunt. God bless
Hi Mark.Love the old Blackpowder Cartridge rifles .I have a CPA Stevens 45-90 with a 38-56 Barrel i can swap out it ,They use the same extractor to which i use a cut down case drill out the primer hole place it on my cleaning rod Keep it centered.Still use a cone shape one for my levers just like you do the joys of shooting Blackpowder would not want it any other way.thoroughly enjoy your videos as the Majestic views of the Cinnabar. Cheers From Australia
Great Video! When I was a young man, learning about historical firearms, and going to gun shows, my dream was to purchase an original Winchester, Colt or Sharps rifle from the Old West period to have and shoot. It was a warm fuzzy feeling, but I am very glad I was poor back in those days. What are the odds those old rifles were cleaned properly back in the day after every firing by Cowboys and Indians?🤣Not likely ever if at all. If it wasn't a museum piece from day one it was used up quickly and corrosion took over almost every bore. So, I have a collection of Italian replicas that I have a lot of fun shooting to my hearts content.
Great Job on the Video 🙂☕
Thanks for another informative video. Harbor freight started selling an assortment of various size q-tips . Works great to have a few sizes.
Thank you Mark for the advise on the Windex neutralizing rust blue. I do alot of rust bluing so next time I rust blue. I will try it.
Thanks Mark I’ve Been Looking Forward To This Video 😀❤️😀😊👍🏼
Nice Mark just a heads up we use delrin rods for our sharps rifles with a jag turned on the end and a 8-32 insert for a nylon brush. Now when were shooting we clean between shots one damp patch with a 50/50 mix of distilled water and that pink rv antifreeze followed by a dry patch.
Thank you. I have always been nervous about using BP in modern DA revolvers and complex Levers like the 1892 because of the difficulty of disassembly.
Have used Dawn and Hot Water on all of our black powder rifles since the early 70's! Follow up with Break Free !
Thanks for showing how to clean the rifles with BP . Also what to use to clean it , I am use to clean the muzzle loader . I use Murphy oil mix with Rubbing Alcohol in my muzzle loader. It dose not take much to clean it , the down side is that if you do not take the muzzle loader apart you will take the finish off the stock.
You can also run the slotted tip in empty and feed a patch on and pull towards muzzle first couple times.
Very helpful! Thank you
Great video to show how easy it can be to clean up if your prepared. I used to carry a pull through and a pocket sized bottle of Windex and Hoppys to clean up after shooting while out camping for the weekend then do a better job once home, does Windex hurt the bore if left? Nice Sharps.
Pull a bore snaked soaked with water though from chamber to muzzle. I never use any of that other stuff. Finish with Bore Butter.
I agree. I believe you can "season" a bore like you would a cast pan
No firearm is cleaner than a properly cleaned blackpowder firearm. Some of my shoot'n buddies would leave the last fired (fire-formed) cartridge in the breech while doing the initial crud removal.
I use that technique myself.
Forgot to mention that I use a bore snake to clean all my lever guns after shooting smokeless powder. Works great cause you can clean from the chamber forward to the muzzle.
I use birch wood Casey shield on my black powder guns.
How often should we overhaul or touch up our guns stored properly? Seasonly? Annualy?
It's not going to work in the field conditions, but goodness, we should just shove a hot water hose with a tapered sealing wedge into the action, and crank up the water full power. Watch all that black gunk fly right out of the muzzle. haha
Dry and lubricate the bore immediately after, of course.
Even before the video is getting going I can tell you the only two things on that table you need for black powder cleaning is the windex and the Ballistol. Actually plain water and Ballistol is all you need and generally all I use.
cinnabar ... i saw a video of yours where you removed rust.. with clip and kboil ...... i'm not sure what those products are ...... could you give me more details on what products / cleaners/oil i need to buy
I don't know why I didn't see this sooner.
I'm surprised you didn't say anything about cleaning the inside of the magazine tube. On my replica 1873 lever action, the mag tube is by far the rustiest and hardest to clean, even with stainless steel spring and follower.
Not a bad idea to open up the mag tube and clean it from time to time but it would be a little overkill to dismantle the mag tube and clean it after each shooting. I don't know anybody who does that.
Is there anything wrong with using a pull-through device to knock the major portion of the gunk out the muzzle for the first step before using a rod from the muzzle? I think I would do that first thing.
Nothing wrong with that. As I mentioned in the video, there are many variations to cleaning a rifle after shooting black powder and I was showing my method. Use the method you like.
No gorse on the Cinnabar but Mark (the Scotsman) still has some in his pockets😁? I also turn patches over, when I can reuse them.
Can ya talk with us about gun cleaning and maintaining protection for Us that have bigger numbers of old guns packed in many large safes? It gets daunting!
Great idea following up with a smokeless round to aid in the the cleaning process. Would it regular smokeless round be better, than a reduced load smokeless round ( the mimicking blackpowder kind ) for cleaning the barrel ?
Thank you, Cheers, Cornelius
Shooting a smokeless round is sort of like my practice of shooting a regular jacketed round through my revolvers after a day of shooting cast bullet loads. It cleans out any leading and leaves the bore nice and clean. Then clean as normal after that.
Congrats
There are some of my old Milsurp rifles that never come clean...one I literally cleaned for a week, using many dozens of patches, probably over a hundred, and it never gets clean.... I even used foaming bore cleaner and left it in for a day or more and the patches still come out black or blue (copper). I just gave up
I’m partial to water and ballistol
hot water, so it heats up the metal and that helps the dry off.
@@grassroot011 With my BP revolvers and cylinders I use a bare nylon brush few strokes to loosen particulates up, then a patch or two wet with Moose Milk (1 part Ballistol 8 parts distilled water) then use a small high pressure distilled water steamer kettle (Walmart about $30) blasts the bore spotless right out the muzzle and heats the barrel good then dry it with a couple dry patches and then finally a patch damp with straight Ballistol. Same with the barrel/frame outsides without the bore brush.
How do you clean the cartridge?
Excellent point to bring up! Your brass will need to be neutralized and cleaned just as PDQ as the firearms. Whenever I shoot BPCR (black powder cartridge rifle) , I always take a gallon water jug filled with water and a splash of Dawn Dish Soap. At the range, after each shot, the brass goes right into that jug and stays till I get home. Bouncing around in the truck plus a few good swishes causes the water to get really cruddy. When home, a good rinse or two in windex/Dawn/hot water. Then a pass through a universal de-capper die
Finish off with a wet tumble period with your favorite recipe cleaner and your brass is good as new.
@@willhamner4921 thank you.
I have a Pedersoli Replica 1873 Springfield Trapdoor Carbine 45/70. Is any disassembly required to clean after black powder, or can I do just as you did with the Colt Lightening? DJ
Do you make and sell those brass bore guides?
Black powder cartridge > after a shot i drop the case into a 2L plastic milk container full of soapy water " next day unscrew the lid shake those buggers out into a bucket > couple twists with the 45cal cleaning brush > de-prime - flush with clean water - let dry - into the media tumbler !
The pain is in cleaning the cartridge cases.
Hello
I have two cleaning kits one for black one for smokeless don't want to get black powder residue in my smokeless gun just water works fine they didn't have all those chemicals in the civil war
Haha! Toilet paper was in short supply during the Civil War too, but I'd just as soon live in the modern world and take advantage of our modern conveniences. 🤣