I Discovered a Water Bottle with a Hose! HardSide Hydration Swig Rig Nalgene Water Bottle Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- A Water Bottle with a Hose?
If you spend enough time in the outdoors around other backpackers and campers, you will come across someone who is using a Nalgene Water Bottle.
Nalgene makes a number of different products with the most popular being the Wide Mouth Bottle like the one that you will see in this video.
What makes these so popular?
Firsts off, the quality is excellent, they are extremely durable, lightweight, low cost, come in a ton of different colors and so on.
Now that we have focused on what a Nalgene is, lets discuss what the Sig Wig is;
The Swig Wig is a Nalgene bottle based kit but it adds a hose kit so that one can use a Nalgene bottle virtually the same way as a hydration bladder.
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HardSide Hydration Sig Wig Nalgene Water Bottle with Hose System
What it is : If you spend enough time in the outdoors around other backpackers and campers, you will eventually come across someone who is using a Nalgene Water Bottle.
The company makes a number of different products with the most popular being the Wide Mouth Bottle like the one that you see here.
What makes these so popular?
Firsts off, the quality is excellent, they are extremely durable, lightweight, low cost, come in a ton of different colors and so on.
Now that we have focused on what a Nalgene is, lets discuss what the Sig Wig is;
The Swig Wig is a Nalgene bottle based kit but it adds a hose kit so that one can use a Nalgene bottle virtually the same way as a hydration bladder.
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Dimensions :
11.25 tall
3.5” diameter
Hose is 40” long
Capacity : Most common Nalgene bottles are the 32oz models, this is a 48oz bottle.
Materials :
BPA/BPS free plastic
90 degree bite valve
Debris cover
Weight : 10.3oz
Versions :
There is an insulated version and a non insulated version.
There are multiple colors of hoses to choose from; orange and clear
Price : $48 for the insulated tube version and the 48oz bottle.
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Review Pros :
Great quality Nalgene bottle.
Large capacity Nalgene.
You have the capability of a bottle with the ease of access of a bladder - in other words, you have the hose and the ability to get water quickly without having to get the bottle out of your pack.
Easy to clean
Easy to refill
Easy to add water treatment drops
You can easily add flavor to your bottle and can as I mentioned already, easily clean it.
Having the ability to drink water without getting out the bottle is a huge plus - this translate to the user consuming more water while out on the trail which is a good thing in most situations.
Cost : $30 isn’t bad for this system; Honestly a higher price wouldn’t surprise me at all. In general, a 48oz Nalgene runs around $13, a hydration hose runs around $15…
This system can be used with filtration devices very easily.
If you need to get water out of your bottle, you can do so easily and quickly which isn’t the case with a bladder.
You can easily change out the hose and bit valve if you like.
Straw can be shortened so that this system can be used with smaller Nalgene bottles.
Lifetime guarantee
Review Cons :
No instructions were included with the system; while not difficult to figure out if you have ever used a hydration bladder but if you haven’t done so, you may have to go looking for some instruction on how to put the components together.
Sucking water through a hose kind of sucks - it is what it is. I rather drink from a bottle and get the quantity that I want quickly.
Bite valve isn’t my favorite.
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Fun factoid: back in the mid 90s I worked for an outdoor store in Delaware. Some scientists from Gore came in and asked to see all of our hydration options on the market (hydration bladders, tubes, and nozzles were fairly new back then). They purchased a few of all the options as they were doing research to incorporate them into spacesuits for astronauts while on spacewalks. I was fascinated.
Whoa, cool!
“space walks” aka scuba diving? 😂
I lead trail maintenance crews here in Florida. One of my crew showed up with one of these for her 32 oz. She is also a monster distance hiker, I have a lot of respect for her. She is absolutely loving it. She has the Sawyer filter in line on it and the ease of use over the bladder is phenomenal. Personally I have always carried a bladder, but this gives me pause.
This is what I am planning on doing. Encouraging to read someone doing long distance enjoys it.
Source Hydration has been making commercial and military grade bladders for years
They also have been making a water bottle conversion kit for many years
The Kit comes with three tops, standard 28mm soda top, wide Naglene top, and a narrow thread Sig top
Excellent quality
You beat me to it, I came here to say the same thing. I used Source bladders religiously while I was in the military and I also use their bottle conversion kit regularly as well.
Source is truly top notch.
I use the source hydration bottle conversion kit. I like that they have options to convert more than one type of bottle. So say if wanna leave my Nalgene home I can easy attach it to smart water bottle, or the sig style metal canteens.
Their bladders are the best, I like the tactical ones that have the wide open opening and screw opening. Their taste like glass tech is legit.
Being a paraplegic makes it kind of hard for me to do these kinds of things but, I can damn sure enjoy watching you do it. :)
This is great. I dislike bladders simply because they mold easily if just a slight amount of water remains. This is a fantastic alternative.
Source tactical gear has a similar model called the convert tube that has plenty of options for different water bottle models
I knew about them both some years ago, but it was almost impossible to find it. I wanted this very setup instead of the water bladder for those same reasons, glad to know that they are easier to find.
Good video, thanks Luke. I was curious about this product, but I went with the Source Tactical unit. Has a bleed valve that prevents a vacuum from building up as you drink from the bottle. As others have said, the Source kit comes with several connectors for different water bottles: Smart Water bottles, wide mouth nalgenes, and a couple of others. I use it with a bunch of different collapsible containers and with a 64oz Klean Kanteen. Great solution.
Like your experience with the Hardside Hydration kit, I didn’t care for the Source bite valve so I cut it off and replaced with a Camelback Hydrolock assembly. MUCH better.
Combine it with the Wide Mouth Steel nalgene and then you can even boil water in your bladder alternative. (Weighs a little more but gives you more flexibility too.)
Agreed. A stainless Nalgene is definitely the way to go. Especially if you're preparing an emergency kit of some kind.
It's a very nice idea, i tried doing it but unfortunately the stainless steel nalgene needs a lid with gasket to avoid leaks, the plastic-plastic flange mechanism of closure in plastic nalgenes it's the only one that works with 0 leaking with both swig rig and source convertube, keep this in mind when looking for lids for stainless nalgene
This is the only reason to consider this kit if you already own a water bladder.
Titanium cup. Toaks 750 works perfect.
Source Tactical, One Bottle and a few other companies are doing this. It is a good move and provides options without doubt.
I personally love the Source Tactical kit, it allows you to have even more options with what bottle systems you want to use.
😊 Thanks! You helped me find and resolve making a hydration system for a Israeli gas mask . I only have the connection to the mask and a short hose while I do have several Nalgene wide mouth bottles and the older Nalgene filter system. The Israeli canteens are not available right now and I was lookling for a more universal set-up. Again thanks!
Having to bite down hard to drink is a no-go. I wondered about the vacuum and weight distribution issue as well.
I use both a water bladder and nalgene bottles. So this would be an interesting kit for me.
disabled handcycle and wheelchair athletes have been creating our own version of this for years. we just shove a camel back hose into the top of a sports bottle and off we go. depending on the type of sports bottle you may have to drill out the mouthpiece so the hose fits. made mine for about 20 bucks.
Interesting concept, that could be beneficial. Here is how I use both, a water bladder and a bottle. I carry water in my bladder and fill my bottle up from it, then I can add whatever drink mix I want to the bottle, without making a huge mess in my bladder. Been doing this since my teens. Works well, and I haven't had any issues. Great review Luke, thanks.
I use both of them for years. Nalgene and msr bladder are great piece of kit for me. I use a bladder as main source of water for non water areas/or save for evening/when nalgene run out of water. Nalgene is always with electrolytes tablets, drink on the way without stop. I wouldn't use tablets in the bladder, simply because is harder to wash, plus you can run out clear water for end of the day. This idea it's great. Worth to try and easy to clean. I would say us it with bigger backpacks because high and weight of bottle. I like that close/open push button. In my msr system i've got sliding piece of plastic to open/shut pipe, which sliding quiet hard I have to say. That one looks good. All the best, S&H! Tom
Great review as always.
From my experience with hydration bladders during my stay in the Norwegian army, I just want to say that drinking from a bottle you keep in the side in your backpack can lead to an unbalance in how the back sits on your back. You typically want to pack the weight in your back as central as possible towards your back. The hydration bladder is genius because it's literally in the middle of the backpack close to your back. It also won't shift the weight around if you empty it, as it is central. So for long hikes I'd say that the hydration bladder still is the way to go.
I made a similar solution, a silicon corkscrew for vacuuming your wine fits the mouth of my steel 2l bottle and I can fit the hose through there. Best of both worlds, I have peace of mind knowing that my water is touching the least amount of platic possible and I don't have to unpack everytime I want to drink.
To all those people complaining about the Nalgene bottle shifting the weight... You can just put the bottle inside the pack close to your back as if it was the bladder, you know?
Hello Luke. I am not a huge fan of bite valves but that system does have me interested. As a side note, my oldest Nalgene bottle is still in use and I bought it for my first 1994 A.T hike...... 28 years ago and still no leaks 🙂
Great review Luke! I just tried out my hardside set of bottles hiking today. No leaks and easy to use.
Am based in Australia so it was a bit of a warm hike today. I ran one bottle either side. One with electrolytes and the other with water.
Sooo easy to clean as well!
Gotta have one....I'm a complete Nalgene Fanboy..... So much better than a dromedary bag..... So much more tough.
I've seen some diy of this before... that was years ago... but, yeah, makes sense. The main reason I don't use blaters anymore is form over function. I'd rather take up that room in my pack with gear, rather than consumables
I threw away all my hard plastic water bottles once I adopted the Hydrapak 3L Bladder with a slider top. Cnoc bladders have copied the slider top used by Hydrapak bladders. Weight is always centered in my backpack whether full, half full, or empty, the entire Hydrapak drink system comes with a lifetime warranty & is made in America - Oakland, CA. Their bite valve is THE BEST; no leaking & water flow is 2nd to none. Simply remove the slider from an empty Hydrapak bladder, turn it inside out to clean & air dry.
I can easily sip, or guzzle by merely placing the bite valve in my mouth while hiking or resting.
Hard plastic water bottles, Nalgene or so-called "Smart" water bottles, take up space whether full, half full, or EMPTY, not so with bladders.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada.
I've had a red one for about 10 years too and I have this little mouth piece that goes it side that focuses the water best thing ever
Great video. I found using a usgi 2 quart canteen with a hydration tube works great. Combines bladder like container with the ease of using a canteen. Found a Israeli tube kit that is easy to use.
My old British army plastic bottles, had them for over 40years, bomb proof. And they smell good.
I purchased this hydration system because my T-Rex arms can’t reach the bottle holder while I’m wearing my backpack. I actually picked the product up in person from Justin, the owner (terrific guy) and the thing works like a charm for me. I’m very happy with the purchase and will be purchasing a couple more for my family members to tackle the heat on those Arizona trails… Thanks for sharing this product Luke.
Lidl in the UK had a similar bottle at the start of summer and was about £6. It's about 800ml, you could replace its hose if you wanted to but its lid will fit a nalgene bottle.
Awesome video, thank you for taking the time to make this. Ordered mine and cant wait to start using it!
You brought back the old end song! Great!! 😀
Source Hydration also sells a kit like this but with more bottle type adaptors on both their sport and tactical site. Another con- vs a hydration bladder these systems take more effort to get water out, not a deal breaker but it can be a pain especially when you're tired or winded.
I'm not gonna buy most of thr things he shows, but I for sure am gonna see each and everyone of them videos!! Cause I just love the dedication of this man.
Haven't used it yet, but I bought and love it.
First time giving a comment on a product that you tested. I bought it and I love it. I am one that needs a lot of water when I hike because of just cramping up all the time and even though I have a bladder type bag I just don’t use them because it takes up to much room in the pack. So I carry this bottle now with 3 other water bottle plus I still bring the bladder bag, but only use it when at a site to have enough water on hand if near a water source. I so enjoy your product reviews and this is one that is worth the money. Thanks LonSolo.
I never trusted bladders and used to love my Nalgene bottle but now I am all about going light so now I use Smart water bottles like most long distance hikers use. I carry three for most hikes.
I have a similar kit from Source (they have made them for years). I find there is a vacuum issue making it quite hard/inefficient to use.
This was my concern
@@ironteacup2569 Hardside says there is a valve on the lid that lets air in, but won't let anything leak out.
@@ironteacup2569 did you have that problem as well?
I also use the ine from source but there is no vakkuum issue. There is a valve to let air in but no water out
That looks much better than the bladders you carry on your back. Thank you for showing us
Another pro: It will be much easier to clean and keep mold free than a bladder. ... Great review.
I used the bladder for years. I stopped using it because I only used it for hiking. I had to remember to always clean the bladder after the hike. I use a bottle everyday not just on hikes. The bottle and the hose is the best of both worlds.
Thanks for the review. I used to use the nalgene bottles, however, I have since moved over to either using the BodyArmor sports water bottles or the old style, single wall aluminum water bottles. The plastic bottles, once worn out, can be pitched into the recycle bin. The aluminum bottles are bullet proof and you can use them to boil water if you really need to. I use the Katadyn hiker pro filter, and it works well with either of the two bottles I use. And they are much, much lighter than the nalgene and fit in the water pouches of most packs much easier.
I have and carry both. Usually gatoraide or mixed type drinks in the Nalgene bottle and water in the bladder. With the bladders you can get 100oz size which is nice.
I do both, I carry an empty Nalgene bottle on the outside of my pack mostly for a hot water bottle at night, or if I need to carry extra water for some reason. My main water carrier is a 3L military ThermoBak S, which is a water only backpack that I stick in my main pack, or take out if I just need it. The carrier pack protects the bladder from punctures and keeps the water cool.
As for that device, the biggest issue I have with it is you need a free pocket. I would not want to try and fit that inside my pack though due to the shape.
I have a 3 liter insulated bladder that attaches to my rear rack on my bike. I added an extra length of hose so I could clip the bite valve to the stem of my bike. The hose is insulated also an it runs the length of my top tube where my half frame bag attaches to the bike. I've never had a problem with it. And having three liters of water to consume means more ride time and less stopping to fill up.
I bought one a year ago and I changed out the bite valve with an Osprey bite valve work great and I have no issues with it and I went out and bought another 48 liter bottle to have
I bought a bladder hose replacement, drilled a hole in the cap of a smart water bottle and inserted the hose to make my own lightweight version. Make sure to drill a few small holes on the cap to allow airflow when you suck the water out.
The only thing I use a nalgene for is a pee bottle. I got rid of the bladders when smart water bottles became the rage. I DIY’d a hose with a mouth piece through the sports cap and hav been using it for years attached to my ULA pack strap. It was under $10 Total and I’ve replaced the mouthpiece a couple of times. The only draw back is that a couple of times I have to blow bag into the smart water bottle or open the cap to reduce vacuum pressure, but it easily done without thinking about it. Sawyer had a system for this set up that doesn’t seem to have a vacuum issue, but again it is way more expensive than doing it DIY. I just don’t think the smart water bottles can be beat, especially with CNOC bladders and squeeze for filtration system. But always great to get you take on things!
Thanks so much bro im definitely buying one
Nalgene calls the 48oz a 'Silo', however Nalgene also makes a kitchen storage solution that is a 48oz bottle with NO markings. Thats no measurements no logos... nothing and its a completely clear tritan material which means you can use the SODIS method to disinfect water. I have two of these bottles and may invest in this system.
Thanks Luke!
thanks brother! You always come through with the best stuff!! keep ‘em coming!!!
Just an fyi for those already using Source Hydration bladders/tubes/valves.. Source makes 2 bottle adapters like this Hardside, the Tactical line has quick disconnects and allows you to move the bite valve back to the bottle for when you’re sitting around/eating.
I keep waiting for someone to make a hose system for the Geopress and Ultrapress… wish Source would so I could just swap the bottles around on my pack using the disconnects.
Awesome info! Ty
If im going tenting/fishing i go with the naglene bottle and a couple of platypus 1liter bags/bottltes. If sleeping in cabins/shelters and pack light i go with the bag, specifically the 3l source bag, it opens so you can scrub it down on properly. Usually store it open, put a glas in or something in it. No need to filter water here, in norway, so its pretty easy maintenance anyways.
I think my biggest drawback for a bladder is the hose...even insulated, the water inside gets warm if not hot and I hate drinking warm/hot water when I'm thirsty. In Iraq, we would end up spitting out the first few mouthfuls till we got cooler water, which in the end wastes water. A bottle though, takes up a lot of space, and you need 2-3 or more bottles to get the same 100ml or more that a bladder holds, meaning less space for load out/gear.
That's a cool product Luke. I have 48oz nalgenes. I'll get on of these kits and try it out. Thanks!
Hey Luke I need to go back to some of your shows cause a friend gave me an suv so now I can go suv camping plus other stuff out doors. That black air pad for sure and others. Anyway thanks for your Chanel
Lot easier to keep clean than a bladder. Good for RTW M/C travel especially the insulated model. Carried both on my trips bladder in chest pocket bottle in bags. Stuff the bottle with ice in summer of warm water in winter, hot coffee even. Had some Nalgeens bottles since '78. 44 yrs, still good
I have been running a system very close to this for a few years now. It is basically the same deal. It has the lid that fits a Nalgene bottle connected to a hose a bite valve. I couldn't tell you the brand. I found it in a military surplus store and have never seen another one. I think its the best of both worlds and have enjoyed it. My only complaint has been the lid leaks if the bottle doesn't stay vertical. Seems that this company has worked out that problem. I will be checking out this product for sure. Great video and product review. Thanks!
Source Hydration out of Israel makes a similar product but has multiple attachments for several types of bottles. I run one on my insulated Hydroflask (not UL, but I like cold water). Best use: buy two, mount waterbottles on your pack straps and shorten the tubes to your mouth (like a straw). You can sip and hike without stopping.
Just got mine and they now include an instruction card as well.
Source tactical has a similar kit. I like the Source hose and valve very much but it doesn’t have a long enough straw for a 48oz bottle. The Source hose and fittings are quick disconnect and have many accessories
Looks like a great product. I personally like to carry metal/stainless water bottles like the Kleen Kanteen just so I have the option to boil the water without having to use another container...maybe they will come out with an option for that style bottle at some point....
I just found that system. It looks great. It finishes off my water system. I have the MSR water purifier system that goes on a Nalgene bottle. I am going order one or two this week. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for the info! I will definitely be looking into one of these! I have several of the “Nalgene Silo” water bottles. I’d have to say I’ve had my .48 oz bottles for @ 10+ years now. I had stopped carrying them because sometimes they are inconvenient to carry. Since this video. I will pick up one of these kits and start carrying them again! Thanks
Thank you for sharing your expertise
I think it’s great. I hate bladders, but that takes all the hassle out of having a drinking hose.
From a 50-year-old U.S. Army Canteen to a 32-ounce Nalgene Water Bottle. Heck Yeah!!!!!!! You can even throw a few iced cubes in the bottle if you have a notion to carry iced tea. Or freeze some tea right into the bottle for your ice. The downside is 32 ounces is much too big if you're planning on carrying a bottle full of Harvey Wall Bangers.
Thanks Luke!!!
G’day Luke, great review, it’s the never ending debate, already have some hydration bladders from work and day pack combos but I can see where the issues could sit in regards to a bladder on a multi day trail and I think this is that beautiful thing where you can see it being something that was knocked up in a shed tried and tested a few times until it started working, looks like a great product and will silence the campfire discussion quickly, I’m in Australia but
postage will be worth it as I can’t find any resellers currently, love your work mate
Gideons tactical just showed this on his channel and I thought this was pretty cool! Thanks for the in depth review.
What’s 48 ounces certainly is a game changer but the bottle is so tall. I would think that it would fall out of the mesh pocket on the side of most backpacks. Worth a shot though.
Hydration blander was made by a VET that dislike caring two water bottles on 25 mile hikes! The water blander sits between the metal rack on your back and your metal pouch you better comfort!
I have something like it from Source, a convertube. Very satisfied with it. Also using 2 Nalgene bottles.
Another great review good sir! Also I’m really digging the outro music 😊
Hi Luke,
Source Hydration do a product called the Convertube-same as the product you are reviewing, but with different diameter caps for a range of water bottles-there is a military and civilian version, from memory they have different valves-the civilian has a bite valve, which, like you, I don't like, the tactical one uses their storm valve. Thank you for your work, have a good day!
This was a very helpful review. Thanks and keep up the good work!
outstanding idea!
Looks sturdy. something about Decathlon products though;availability, affordability and great customer/return service
Nice combo they have. Think I’ll look into getting one
Years ago I made my own. I could never get over the movement of the bladder when running. So I just drilled a hole in a lid, stuck a drinking hose though and caulked it off. (the hole was a bit too small so the caulking was probably not necessary. Also I used them straight up Just used a longer hose to reach the bottom of the bottle. Worked like a charm. I even carried a second bottle sometimes and just had to switch lids.
You can do nearly the same thing with a military surplus canteen for a fraction of the cost however it does appear to be a quality product
Thank you Luke for the review.
Saw this hack quite a bit when I was hiking the AT. Surprised me for how obvious and simple it was. The added weight of the hose made it a no go though and really not all that extra handy tbh..
That is a pretty sweet setup!
it would be great if it had an inline filter in the bottle. then you could fill up the. nalgene bottle with water, screw on the cap, then keep on going. good review!
My opinion - a great idea that I can easily reproduce as a "project" for probably half the cost. I prefer the bottle over the bag for visibility and cleanability even though it adds bulk to your pack. 😎
I love mine so much. Got it a few months ago
Very cool kit. I like it!
I run a similar system called the One Bottle. Basically an adapter for my Nalgene lid. I use the UltraLite 48oz bottles with this kit. The 1.5L bottle is the same weight as my 2L bladder. It’s worth the trade off in my mind. This system is the future. There won’t be water bladders in the future if you ask me.
Would love to see you review some products from Husky (it's really popular in Czech Republic) I would send some products in but the shipping is mental! Lovely video as always
One more con I would add is that a bladder is significantly lighter. Of course the con with a bladder is that it is a PITA to clean and not easy to clean as a nalgene, as well as the other issues you mentioned.
Hydrapak bladders are designed with a slider top so it can easily be turned inside out to clean/air dry.
@@azclaimjumper I have 2 of them (and other brands as well). I still prefer the Nalgene though. Still easier to disinfect/clean a hard bottle than a soft bladder.
I ❤ Nalgene. So I approve this product. 👍🏻
very cool...definitely getting one
I had one of these for my G.I. canteen 20 years ago.
I use the Smart Water Bottle with the Sports Cap, which will fit on any size Smart Water Bottle. I put my hose from a Camelback I don't use anymore through the cap down into the bottle. WahLah!. Cheap and Effective.
Thank you, that truly is interesting piece of kit. Source has similar kit called “Source Military Convertube“ which enable you build similar hydration system with different types of bottles
Yes it’s really great. I already have teo of those big nalgene. I usually freeze them to have cold water later in the hike. But all sizes of them are so easy to clean. I’ve been off going to bladders bc there’s always some comments about the plastic taste or leaking. This will be great!!
That's a decent bit of kit.
I'm surprised they don't advertise a tonne as an answer to all the bladders.
Nalgene bottles are the best I always carry 3 ,1 is used for storage and if I need water it works out well because I travel with my dog.
I have always use a bladder system. I like it and carries a ton of water. Which this old guy goes though hiking up Mt LeConte or when shooting arrows in a league. I might try a bottle someday. I might not like their 'bite tube' setup. Take care - Be safe
I’ll end up buying one of these.🤙