Black Fencer Steel Gen Basket Hilt Broadsword - First Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- The first ever steel generation (steel bladed) broadsword has been made my Black Fencer with some input from us. We have the first prototype and it has been through one session of drills, here is a first look at it. Feedback will be given based on this prototype to create a standard production model.
I have been wanting a steel basket hilt for so bloody long!
Can't wait for it to be put out for the public
Curious about this one how it will hold up in sparring and training. Locking forward to see some action, first impression is interesting, especially the broader blade.
I agree. Would also be great for a comparison video of all your broadswords
Hi Nick, I have an NCO Highland Light Infantry basked hilted broadsword by Mole. Here some specs for you to compare your Black Fencer with if you're interested: blade length 32 1/2 inches and width 1.5 inches, overall length 101.5 cm, point of balance 7 cm, weight 1392 grams, basket width 13.7 cm and height without the pommel 15.5 cm.
Thanks for another very interesting vid.
Thanks a lot for the info, this sort of data is always really valuable!
I got my armor class broadsword with hema blade a few months ago and, despite its great value and performance, I really want a broadsword with a broad blade! I guess this one is gonna stay on my list.
What I liked about it is that it could just as well represent a heavy cavalry/dragoon sword of the mid 18th century. This might as well be a sword used by the scots grey at Warburg in 1760.
Thanks Nick. Always good to hear about new options for broadswords in the UK.
Sorry to go off topic but can I ask about the liner in your Armour Class?
What I'm mostly wondering is how it feel to get hit by one of those. I've encountered some broadswords that were just murder-sticks.
We sparred last night, and Nick hit me in the nipple with it. Not much different to a hit from a BF sabre. I'd say maybe 20% meatier than a sabre hit. This is the prototype though, and specs may change - Michael.
It looks awesome!
Very nice, wish they would get around to making a dusack model.
We are currently pushing them to make a synthetic dussack, as well as a steel bladed basket type (what is often called war dussack or tessack). Hopefully we will see both of these within the year.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Balefire Blades have made some really aesthetically pleasing dussacks and basket hilts. I wish Black Fencer could pull the aesthetics off. Generally I think its steel generations look much better than its synthetics and hope they keep it up!
Great review! Have you got an update?
Sure, my feeling is still much the same. Basket is a little large through I know they have reduced it since this first one. It has been robust and fun, no sets or damage beyond light burrs.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing that’s awesome thanks! I ordered one 😆
@@edwardlaposi1357 hi just curious if you received the sword and what your experience is with the black fencer baskethilt? Is it what you expected, any pros or cons?
I tried the synthetic version of this sword and I must say i was very tired after practice. On the other hand when matched with sabers and lighter blades it pushed them out during thrusting and slashing exercises.
I am shopping for a well balanced highland broadsword the on you have seems to fit the bill, So when I do order one from (Dark Fencer or Black Fencer) did you say? What weight did you specify? Also what blade is that as well? I love it that's perfect. The broadswords I have I seriously doubt would stand up to fencing. One is a Windlass Steel Crafters steel Culloden with three fullers in it's blade. But the blade is not dulled or rounded on the tip as yours is.
The other broadsword is a brass basket hilt with a very beat up backsword blade,(previous owner). Again not fencing ready. So just wanted the exact one you have should work out great! And for around $400 US.
Will you review more of the new synthetics?
Absolutely, we have a lot to review and will work through them asap.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing can't wait :)
You mention that the basket is quite wide/big. Just to get a better feeling of what you mean, is the basket bigger then the black fencer regimental synthetic baskethilt, if so how much would be the difference? (as I have that model at home)
I see you had a rubber tip put on. Is that a modified purple heart rubber tip?
It's a Black Fencer tip, a bit of a stretch but it does go on. I don't always use this with a tip as it is flared already, just not to a huge degree.
Do you plan to spar with the Gou Rang/Chinese buckler? It seems like an interesting weapon.
Hi, for the weight of the sword you first said in the video that the sword was 1,39 kg and later on you said 1,35 kg. is the sword 1,39 kg or 1,35 kg? And do you know if Black Fencer changed something to bring the weight down in their final product that is for sale in the store? In the store it says , 1,30 kg but not sure if that is the real weight after they changed the product to bring the weight down or they changed nothing and made the product as is while saying on the website it is 1,30 kg. 🤔
Mmm that was an odd mistake! The sword is 1.35kg. They have indeed made some changes to bring the weight down, but I have yet to see one to see how exactly this was achieved, and therefore I have not weighed the newer models either, but I would expect them to be close to the website claim of 1.3kg.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Thanks for the fast anwser! I will mail them to ask about the weight reduction and what they changed if they did reduce the weight.
Hi it's been a year, are you planning to do a full-on review? : )
yeah i was wondering as well. Hopefully there will be a full review (of the released sword that is now on the website) soon as i want to buy the sword but not without an honest review.
Will there be an option to add a basket liner?
How long is the blade? Looks a tad bit short for a basket hilted sword but it might just be optical illusion
85cm, so very average for the form.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Oh ok that's pretty good for a wide bladed sword. Also has the best looking fuller I've seen in a long time. I feel tempted to ask Blackfencer to make an arming sword out of that blade, with maybe brazil nut type pommel and put the inscription 'Ulfberht' on it because it looks the part.
How about a hemispheric pommel?
I did suggest exactly that, but I know they are limited to using a selection of standard pommels for produciton models rather than their customs to keep prices down. I believe they have used their dagger pommel and flattened the one end to give it partially that effect and make it a little more flush.
First like.
Please, my sharp sabre is so incredibly front heavy
They certainly can be, especially broader blades with simple stirrup hilts, they can push up to 20cm balance points.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing it isn't a broad blade. It is an m18💩💩 and it is because windlass sharps are a scam
@@3iggystheorem232 Imagine comparing actual historical examples to Windlass crap like it's relevant.
@@LuxTheSlav I don't care about historical examples. I just wanted a modest blade and thought windlass had a good reputation.
@@3iggystheorem232 Great conversation, 10/10 would not repeat.