The specificity in this lesson is what you pay teachers $100/hr for. I'm not at the level to play this piece yet but I really appreciate your attention to detail, and the specific actionable systems you worked out here.
@@pianomosaic Hope you make more videos like this! Doesn't look like you have an active Patreon set up but if (big if) you like doing this kind of stuff I'd subscribe! Would love to see a strategy video on Debussy Images - Reflets dans l'eau!
@@davidbalatero855 I did set up a patron account but you'd be the first to go there. I should have it in the description. Reflets dans l'eau I'll add to my list. It's a wonderful piece!
@@davidbalatero855 ah it turns out I can't set that up unless I perhaps delete and remake the whole account. Will have to look into that when I'm back home in a few weeks. Thx for letting me know.
My teacher, Ruggiero Ricci, when asked how he is able to play the impossible, replied he makes his practicing more difficult to then be able to play the impossible effortlessly. This is brilliantly demonstrated in this video. Happy practicing everyone!
While this is among my favorite Ravel, I've always though it so insanely difficult that only the demonically possessed would be capable of the task. Your brilliant tutorial shows how those with real talent can manage it. While I'll never play this gorgeous piece myself, your examples have given me an unexpected window into how to listen and better appreciate the music's complexity and, to my surprise, its lucidity.
Your Jeux d'Eau video was invaluable for me (I used the piece for an audition and performed it at Carnegie Hall in February!) Now, at the perfect time, this video comes out. I will certainly be buying your practicing guide for this beautiful piece. Thank you so much and keep the videos coming!
Wow, that was beautiful to watch. I can barely play piano, and love Ravel. Maybe its not too late at 41 to get to play something like that. It must feel amazing. Thanks for that.
Thanks! It seems to my surprise that quite a few people who aren't necessarily trying to learn the piece still like watching such videos. I'd say it's not too late. But that very much depends on how much time you have to put into it and how far you want to get with it. You'd also have to be willing to spend a lot of time learning many other things that you might not be interested in first. And even if you do everything possible, you might still not be satisfied with the result if you're a very self-critical / perfectionist type.
@@pianomosaic You're welcome! I was wondering what version of the sheet music are you using? There seems to be a few deviations from the sheet music I am working with. Also, how long did you work on this piece and what will you do next? Finally, between Jeux D'eau and Ondine, which do you think is tougher? Thank you for your time!
@@wasumyon6147 I have several editions but the main one I use is the Roger Nichols Edition (Peters). But the extracts I wrote are not complete copies of any other edition. To be concise I left out lots of things like dynamics and some slurs. This piece and I have quite a long history. I learned it many years ago but wasn't satisfied with the standard I reached. After a long break, I picked it up again last year, armed with a lot more experience and tricks. Only now did I really feel comfortable with it technically. I definitely think Ondine is harder than Jeux d'eau. It's absolutely extreme. Not just the playing of the notes but the sounds one must produce with them. All while not even getting virtuosic or showy. Just subtle moods and ambient impressions floating around. Right now I'm enjoying working on a Fugue again but the plan is to revise Une barque and make a video on that too as many people have asked for that. Also want to do that with Chopin's op 10 no 1
@@pianomosaic Wow! I would love a practice video for Une Barque and Op 10 no 1 Etude and will support those too if you choose to do so! Good luck friend.
@@pianomosaic Well, I meant to lift the weight of my digital piano (Kawai CA99, 83kg), but then I found out that the polished ebony one weighs more (about 89kg). So exact would be my title: “Unpolished-Digital-Piano-Lifter”. 😁
I've been waiting for that type of content for so long, and especially on that piece! I find that those initial chords are very much dependent on the piano action. It needs to be very light, and repetition needs to work from the bottom of the key too. Are you demonstrating on a digital piano?
I just found this and it helped me immensely to get past initial sight reading. Just subscribed! Can you share what model of digital piano you use here? The action of mine isn’t good for fast trills and repeated notes, wondering what you suggest :)
Thanks for sharing this awesome video with us Adrian :) I wanted to ask you, why in bars 88 and following you suggest to cross the hands, as in 12:35 ? Especially since in your own interpretation you used the conventional way. And do you have any more tips for coping with the polyrhythm in the climax section? Thanks a lot in advance!! PS. Love your shirt :)
Oh that's just an exercise and absolutely not a suggestion to perform. Perhaps I should have been more explicit about that. With such polyrhythms, there are two general approaches you can take: 1) Work out, note for note, which hand comes when exactly, and then do it very slowly (perhaps in small fragments first) until the fingers start to "get the message". Or 2) You can fake it by altering the rhythm slightly so it's more manageable. For example 6 against 7 can be turned into 2 against 3 and then 4 together. You can also then change the order up. It's pretty close and once you play up to speed, it's not so much about rhythmic precision as it is just about getting all the sonorities. Perhaps think of them like giant chords. thx :)
@@pianomosaic Thanks for your answer! So regarding the polyrhythm you would recommend to play the first notes as 2 against 3, and the rest simply together right? How would you do it when you have 6 against 5 or 7 against 5, which also occurs in the climax? Thanks again for your kindness, this passage really challenges me a lot :(
@@adriankornblum1874 That's one way of getting into it. Once that works ok, you can then shift it towards a bit more accuracy, or you could try another one like play the first four together and then 2 against 3. With 6v5 you could also do 2v3 and then 3 together (or the other way round). I also found it very difficult. Many people say it's not so bad but my experience was different. I kept hitting wrong notes there when playing through the whole piece.
This is so great, thank you so much! Thank you very much for the pdf aswell. Also, I know you said you don't remember much but could you please do a video on Ravel's Une Barque Sur l'Ocean? I believe any input from you would be useful to most.
Outstanding illumination of detail (technique and musical) - very grateful. Not sure how to download PDFs but I’m not too savvy with computer gadgets so...any help appreciated. Thanks again.
Here’s hoping that you can do the same with not only the rest of Gaspard but also all of Maurice’s piano works (Debussy as well). Thanks again from all of us with limited financial resources.
Have just shared this with piano groups on FB!! Could you possibly do one on Liebestraum?? Am just past cadenza 1 and would be so great to see your thoughts on the piece :) :) :)
@@pianomosaic ah ok thanks for the reply. This video is very helpful. My son learned from youtube his first 2 years and there are so many good resources. That said having a teacher helps now but still youtube is such a good resource. especially the masterclasses. th-cam.com/channels/J5LuC6rXua-4J1ltPOhaFw.html
The specificity in this lesson is what you pay teachers $100/hr for. I'm not at the level to play this piece yet but I really appreciate your attention to detail, and the specific actionable systems you worked out here.
That's such a nice comment. Thanks!
@@pianomosaic Hope you make more videos like this! Doesn't look like you have an active Patreon set up but if (big if) you like doing this kind of stuff I'd subscribe! Would love to see a strategy video on Debussy Images - Reflets dans l'eau!
@@davidbalatero855 I did set up a patron account but you'd be the first to go there. I should have it in the description.
Reflets dans l'eau I'll add to my list. It's a wonderful piece!
@@pianomosaic ah but there is no way to support your videos on patreon!
@@davidbalatero855 ah it turns out I can't set that up unless I perhaps delete and remake the whole account. Will have to look into that when I'm back home in a few weeks. Thx for letting me know.
You are so CRIMINALLY underated💀💀
Hey thanks! Like the skulls.
My teacher, Ruggiero Ricci, when asked how he is able to play the impossible, replied he makes his practicing more difficult to then be able to play the impossible effortlessly. This is brilliantly demonstrated in this video.
Happy practicing everyone!
People really don't know how useful this is when a part just doesn't work like you intend it to. This is gold for pianists trying to learn.
This is one of the deepest technical analysis and development strategies i've ver seen. Thank you for sharing your knowledge man!
Hi Facundo. I appreciate the feedback! Thanks.
I’m not a pianist, but I found this video an extraordinary source of enlightenment in regards to Ravel’s exquisite piano writing, thanks. 🙏🏼
Thanks that's interesting and you're not the first who seems to get something out of this video that isn't about playing the piece.
9:28 sounds really cool
While this is among my favorite Ravel, I've always though it so insanely difficult that only the demonically possessed would be capable of the task. Your brilliant tutorial shows how those with real talent can manage it. While I'll never play this gorgeous piece myself, your examples have given me an unexpected window into how to listen and better appreciate the music's complexity and, to my surprise, its lucidity.
Wow thanks. It never occurred to me that such a tutorial might be of interest to people listening.
Heavenly sounds. You are genius. Thank you for sharing these priceless tips freely. Much love❤️🧡💛💚💖💝🎉💖
Only 3 minutes in and I’ve discovered so much more then I could’ve learnt so thanks man :)
Your Jeux d'Eau video was invaluable for me (I used the piece for an audition and performed it at Carnegie Hall in February!) Now, at the perfect time, this video comes out. I will certainly be buying your practicing guide for this beautiful piece. Thank you so much and keep the videos coming!
Hey thanks I'm glad it helped. I hope that will be the case with this piece too!
Great video! I am not playing this piece yet, but I will probably and then i will come back here.
Wow, that was beautiful to watch. I can barely play piano, and love Ravel. Maybe its not too late at 41 to get to play something like that. It must feel amazing. Thanks for that.
Thanks! It seems to my surprise that quite a few people who aren't necessarily trying to learn the piece still like watching such videos.
I'd say it's not too late. But that very much depends on how much time you have to put into it and how far you want to get with it. You'd also have to be willing to spend a lot of time learning many other things that you might not be interested in first. And even if you do everything possible, you might still not be satisfied with the result if you're a very self-critical / perfectionist type.
Wow what a lovely channel I came across. You are a GREAT teacher
Thanks for such an encouraging comment!
I have never seen a tutorial like this one!!!!!!!!!!!! Fantastic
Thank you for the PDF, just bought it on gumroad! I'm glad I asked for one in Jeux d'eau! Support what you love!
Hey thank you! I hope it helps.
I remember your comment.
@@pianomosaic You're welcome! I was wondering what version of the sheet music are you using? There seems to be a few deviations from the sheet music I am working with. Also, how long did you work on this piece and what will you do next? Finally, between Jeux D'eau and Ondine, which do you think is tougher? Thank you for your time!
@@wasumyon6147 I have several editions but the main one I use is the Roger Nichols Edition (Peters). But the extracts I wrote are not complete copies of any other edition. To be concise I left out lots of things like dynamics and some slurs.
This piece and I have quite a long history. I learned it many years ago but wasn't satisfied with the standard I reached. After a long break, I picked it up again last year, armed with a lot more experience and tricks. Only now did I really feel comfortable with it technically.
I definitely think Ondine is harder than Jeux d'eau. It's absolutely extreme. Not just the playing of the notes but the sounds one must produce with them. All while not even getting virtuosic or showy. Just subtle moods and ambient impressions floating around.
Right now I'm enjoying working on a Fugue again but the plan is to revise Une barque and make a video on that too as many people have asked for that. Also want to do that with Chopin's op 10 no 1
@@pianomosaic Wow! I would love a practice video for Une Barque and Op 10 no 1 Etude and will support those too if you choose to do so! Good luck friend.
@@wasumyon6147 That's nice thanks!
Amazing and useful lesson. Maybe someday I'll play this
I cannot do this but you Sir are legendary 😎
Bravo! 👏 Excellent instruction and clarity.
Where have you been all my life?? Just purchased your Ondine Exercise. I'am ditching Hanon right now. Please do Scarbo as well!!
Hey thanks :)
Can you really lift pianos?
Btw. I think Hanon can be useful.
@@pianomosaic Well, I meant to lift the weight of my digital piano (Kawai CA99, 83kg), but then I found out that the polished ebony one weighs more (about 89kg). So exact would be my title: “Unpolished-Digital-Piano-Lifter”. 😁
I’m not even learning this piece I’m watching this anyway it’s very interesting 😃
facts I wish this guy did videos on pieces I can actually play
凄く分かりやすかったです。参考にさせていただきます！
So interesting! Thank you, and wonderful playing too.
Thank you!
Thank you, Adrian!
Thank you so much!
thank you so much for making this video! i’m currently learning ondine!
Thank you so much for this!
I've been waiting for that type of content for so long, and especially on that piece!
I find that those initial chords are very much dependent on the piano action. It needs to be very light, and repetition needs to work from the bottom of the key too.
Are you demonstrating on a digital piano?
Thanks.
Yes that's a digital. You're right the action of the instrument makes a big difference.
I just found this and it helped me immensely to get past initial sight reading. Just subscribed!
Can you share what model of digital piano you use here? The action of mine isn’t good for fast trills and repeated notes, wondering what you suggest :)
@@pianomosaic Which digital piano did you use in the video?
@@ilway25 I used the Kawai ES 8 with a VST
Thank you!!
Thanks
Gold.
What an amazing tutorial...I don't know what but it feels like this tune is very underrated. Would you agree?
Hey thanks!
I suppose it depends on who you ask. Most people who know this piece rate it very highly. It's just not as widely known as some others.
This piece is SUPER popular amongst concert pianists. It's regularly featured on classical piano records.
cuánto tiempo has estado tocando piano? tu técnica es formidable
Thanks for sharing this awesome video with us Adrian :) I wanted to ask you, why in bars 88 and following you suggest to cross the hands, as in 12:35 ? Especially since in your own interpretation you used the conventional way. And do you have any more tips for coping with the polyrhythm in the climax section? Thanks a lot in advance!!
PS. Love your shirt :)
Oh that's just an exercise and absolutely not a suggestion to perform. Perhaps I should have been more explicit about that.
With such polyrhythms, there are two general approaches you can take: 1) Work out, note for note, which hand comes when exactly, and then do it very slowly (perhaps in small fragments first) until the fingers start to "get the message".
Or 2) You can fake it by altering the rhythm slightly so it's more manageable. For example 6 against 7 can be turned into 2 against 3 and then 4 together. You can also then change the order up. It's pretty close and once you play up to speed, it's not so much about rhythmic precision as it is just about getting all the sonorities. Perhaps think of them like giant chords.
thx :)
@@pianomosaic Thanks for your answer! So regarding the polyrhythm you would recommend to play the first notes as 2 against 3, and the rest simply together right? How would you do it when you have 6 against 5 or 7 against 5, which also occurs in the climax? Thanks again for your kindness, this passage really challenges me a lot :(
@@adriankornblum1874 That's one way of getting into it. Once that works ok, you can then shift it towards a bit more accuracy, or you could try another one like play the first four together and then 2 against 3.
With 6v5 you could also do 2v3 and then 3 together (or the other way round).
I also found it very difficult. Many people say it's not so bad but my experience was different. I kept hitting wrong notes there when playing through the whole piece.
@@pianomosaic Thanks a lot and take care! :) One day Ill upload a video of me playing it too and show you!!!
This is so great, thank you so much! Thank you very much for the pdf aswell. Also, I know you said you don't remember much but could you please do a video on Ravel's Une Barque Sur l'Ocean? I believe any input from you would be useful to most.
Hey thanks!
I think it's best I just relearn Une Barque. Even if I remembered everything, I'd have many new ideas now anyway. And I adore that piece!
@@pianomosaic Hahaha, well if you did then it'd be grand, very much so. However, don't feel pressured to do so! Thanks for the reply and great video.
thank you!!
Wow this tutorial is awesome!! :) :) :)
useful !
Outstanding illumination of detail (technique and musical) - very grateful. Not sure how to download PDFs but I’m not too savvy with computer gadgets so...any help appreciated. Thanks again.
Hi Thomas. Thanks!
You can get the PDF by following the link in the description under the video.
Here’s hoping that you can do the same with not only the rest of Gaspard but also all of Maurice’s piano works (Debussy as well). Thanks again from all of us with limited financial resources.
which piano... it's a digital one! -> great explaination!! Thanks
11:32 I play that as a fingered scale
I can imagine that could work too.
Could you do a video like this for Un Sospiro by Liszt?
I'll keep that in mind. Thx for the suggestion. No promises though.
What’s the name of your piano ? It sounds absolutely beautiful !
It's a VST. The Garritan CFX concert grand.
Have just shared this with piano groups on FB!! Could you possibly do one on Liebestraum?? Am just past cadenza 1 and would be so great to see your thoughts on the piece :) :) :)
Hey thanks Angela!
I'll certainly consider it. Should learn it myself first though ;)
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are you on rumble?
No but I've heard of it.
@@pianomosaic ah ok thanks for the reply. This video is very helpful. My son learned from youtube his first 2 years and there are so many good resources. That said having a teacher helps now but still youtube is such a good resource. especially the masterclasses. th-cam.com/channels/J5LuC6rXua-4J1ltPOhaFw.html
I hope you can add on rumble too!
@@mingarete4607 May I ask why? Is it better for the audience? I'm looking into other platforms.
@@mingarete4607 He's very musical! Good that he can read music too. I'm surprised this video is helpful but glad to hear it.