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Kinda crazy how a cartoon portrays masculinity and feminism better then literally 98% of adult shows.
The best written strong women too!
@@frankthetank520 let's not get ahead of ourselves.
@@frankthetank520 and who is that?
@@nartdarym4237 most likely Azula, Katara, Toph, ect. There are a lot, so not just one.
@@DEVil-po5xz I'm a bit confused about this, do you mean to say that they are not well written? Or that they are not the best compared to others?
The last performance of Iroh's original VA was by far his best.
May he rest in oeace
Mako kicked ass. When we watched Tales of Iroh, I'm proud to say that I told my son, "Not all tears are evil."
I hope he rests in oeace and peace... whatever oeace is, I assume it's good.
And his new VA after Mako was still hella good
I always cry at that scene on the hill overlooking Ba Sing Se.
I like the idea that masculinity is the opposite of boyish immaturity for the simple reason that a good 'father' is one who knows when to be gentle, and when to be hard. That is the result of wisdom and love and humility.
I still laugh at the scene of Iroh pretending to be paralyzed just so he could cuddle the goth bounty huntress. Even Iroh couldn't resist the hot goth chick.
No one can resist the hot goth girls
and she was voiced by Jennifer Hale at that. All that together, impossible to resist.
Truly, the inner machinations of his mind are an enigma.
@@Fordo007 F Shepard from mass effect is my favorite one she voiced, but they are all a win.
Yes, that scene was fantastic.
One of my favorite Iroh scenes is right before he breaks out of prison, he warns the one guard that was kind to him that she needed to take the rest of the day off. He quite literally risked his escape attempt getting foiled by putting his faith into one of his guards because she had been kind.
iroh really went "dont come to school tomorrow"
I mean if you don’t think they can stop you, do you really care?
@@KossolaxtheForesworn Iroh, where did you get that trenchcoat?
"Imma bust out of this cage like a silverback gorilla on meth and steroids and you don't want to be here for that" - Overanalyzing Avatar
Fun Fact, that guard is voiced by famous tennis professional Serena Willians, who was a fan of the show at that time and asked if she could get a small role in it
ATLA is one of few stories that understand femininity is not the opposite of masculinity. The two are writing from the same reference material in different styles with equal validity.
It's not opposing, but it is complementary.
Boaz and Jachin are the two posts of the same doorframe. Neither of them can serve their function without the other.
On a related note: Toph's character journey also spoke to me through a viewpoint of moving past toxic masculinity. Especially in the chase, She's aggressive, a loner and largely disinterested in the struggles of her friends... Until the pep talk with Iroh and she starts to show more emotional growth from that. Very sweet moment
yup iroh, toph, and zuko are all clearly a tier above the rest.
Toxic femininity
Iroh- best written male.
Toph- best written female.
Zuko- best written anti-hero.
Uncle Iroh is the kind of Uncle I aspire to be towards my own nephews and niece. Someone to look up to that will always be there for them no matter what.
I imagine that there are lots of uncles that want to be like him you and me are two
I want to be that kind of uncle, too.
I literally based my personality off of Iroh when I was growing up and it was probably the best thing I could have done.
I hope we meet someday :)
That’s what a role models meant for!
Imma send you some Tea, bro.
Another part of why Iroh gave Zuko the silent treatment in the final season is because the voice actor changed.
I believe the prior one died, and aside from being narratively powerful, having Iroh not speak for a while made the change in voice less jarring.
I knew that the voice actor changed in between seasons, but to this day, I still don’t pick up on the difference
It gave it a different feel. It really left you wanting more and on the edge of your seat because of you were so curious as to what would happen next.
One thing i love is they show what actual healthy muscular body would look like, they didn’t give him 6 pack abs they gave him a weight lifter type body
This series often speaks about Aang, Zuko, Iroh and Sokka in regards to positive masculinity, but I gotta add that all the male mentors are phenomenal representations of how much variety there is in 'masculinity'. From Monk Gyatso, to King Bumi, to Piandao, to Guru Pathik. And although Pakku was a terribly sexist person in the beginning, the way the show demonstrated how he eventually came to accept Katara and Aang and change his ways is also character development we often dont see in media.
The virgin toxic masculine soldier - "what are we gonna do about the invasion!!??"
The chad masculine king - "NOTHING!! TEEHEE"
"A man is not a man because he doesnt cry, a man is a man becaues he can cry"
-Some wise dude
I think a lot of toxic masculinity is based in fear.
The kinds of people who get really into it tend to be lonely, unhappy, awkward kinds of people who think they have a lot to prove (similar to the types who get into cults). Many try to draw people towards them with the things they buy or the jokes they tell because they feel like nothing they have to offer from inside themselves would be worth it.
A lot of commercials play into that insecurity to sell empty things to fill the void. It's like buying a body pillow because you don't have a girlfriend. Not only can't it fill the void, because it's an object and can't provide the love you actually want, it makes it less likely for you to find someone since you have this easy out to drop the immediate physical need on and go back to life as usual.
The "rules" of being a man seem to work the same way. "A man can't show a woman his tears", is just plain sabotage. Every grown ass woman I've talked to about this has told me that their man feeling comfortable enough to cry in front of them (especially at emotional movies) is one of the hottest things they've ever experienced. Haven't talked to many gay people about this, but I doubt it's any different. If being a man is about being tough and powerful, then why are so many who view it that way afraid to let people see them cry? If you're that strong you should be able to handle something so simple a child can do it without shame or fear. You should be able to share who you are without being petrified at the idea someone won't like it.
If you know who you are as a person, the good and the bad, how you come off to others in various situations, who you want to be as a person, parent, whatever, and you come to terms with it, knowing that you're human and will make mistakes and NO ONE CARES about those mistakes, then you have nothing to prove to anyone else. Confidence doesn't scream that it's here and everyone should pay attention to it because it's just so damn great, and better than everyone else, and everyone should love it. That's what insecurity does. Confidence is quiet, caring, and the last thing on the minds of people who have developed it. You don't just have it. You don't learn it. You don't buy it through an online course. You develop it naturally alongside your understanding of yourself, others, and the world around you.
If you are a person who's afraid of getting to know people then you are not alone. Plenty of people are afraid of being rejected because wanting to be around other people is hardwired into our very human brains. On the other hand, this means that everyone on this planet is a potential friend. 8 Billion possible friends, lovers, family members, casual acquaintances who all who all have an instinctive desire to get to know you. Some suck, but that 1 person who made you feel like crap for 10 minutes is such a small fraction of your billions of potential options in your decades of potential life. Don't run away and hide behind some easily cracked, bullshit mentality that pats you on the back for doing the things that keep you alone in the first place. Just reach out. Everything gets easier with experience.
The problem is what you said, some people are bad or not even bad but they still might not enjoy your personality. Like they can Laugh with you but they don't find you interesting. Depending on your personality a lot of people could feel that about you so what do you do just go through life without people who love you? You say confidence isn't something that's learned? I disagree. Someone who is naturally toxic shouldn't change because that's who they are? No? So why can't someone change undesirable traits about themselves? If you are unintelligent you study and learn to grow your intelligence. This is the problem with society it's instilled this belief that you should love yourself as you are. What if what you are sucks? How about we don't tell people who hate themselves to love themselves as they are. How about we tell them they should always know they have inherent worth as human beings and whatever is healthy for them to try and change advice them how to change it(confidence, awkwardness, style, jokes, NOT PLASTIC SURGERY which would be an unhealthy change to do). Even Zuko changed. Even when Zuko changed to the good side he still could have been an aggressive short tempered guy as we first knew him but he wasn't, He changed, Zuko didn't accept himself as he was and you shouldn't too. No one should. We should always try to grow as people. Our personalities, intelligence, humor etc and there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about that just as long as they know their inherent worth. What you are telling people saying they should accept what is already there, you are handicapping people dude. People who are not funny at all will most likely not get any healthy relationships because they can't get friends since they have no sense of humor and if they live by your mentality of accepting what's already there they will stay like that. Also many women don't like when their partner cries and lose respect for that partner when they cry. I'm not exaggerating many women were asked about this in a video. (English isn't my first language)
True to himself, vulnerable in private and with trusted people, courageous to stand alone, driven, disciplined, self sacrificial, humble, rational and motivating. Pinnacle masculinity.
To add to his idea of masculinity, allow me to use atomic theory. If Masculinity is a positive charge, and feminity is a negative charge, then immaturity is the neutral with no charge. Masculinity and feminity are opposites in their relationship to each other, but both are opposite to immaturity. Negative and positive are attracted to each other, but neutrons don't attract or repulse.
The immature are pitiful, neither attractive or unattractive. Unlike neutrons, however, they have the potential to grow, to be masculine or feminine. So, men, ladies, build that masculine and feminine energy respectively. Build the charge, power up to attract the kind of partner you want, the kind of position you want, the kind of place you want to be in, because its possible, you just need to find that deep and personal reason to get it. Be the Iroh to the Zuko in your life.
good analogy. Tate basically preaches that as well but media takes satirical jokes he made and says he was serious so people not in the know think he's a madman.
Let me guess you idea of feminine energy is 50s smiley , coocked up , quite obedient subordinate lady. They aren't polar opposites like negative and positive charge nor they are exclusive to the other. We aren't that different. But the last 3 sentences I agree.
@beril şevval bekret That may be what you see, but no, my idea of femininity is the same virtues of a man. A woman will not display these virtues in the same way a man will, and the display differences are subtle and are products of how male and female brains work. One is not superior to the other, however some people may have stronger virtues than others. There are many immature men and women out there, in fact today I would say most men and women are more immature now than ever.
In the end, however, I would say masculine and feminine are defined by what they need to be in relation to each other, their lives, friends, family and responsibilities within their roles.
@@berilsevvalbekret772 Judging a book by its cover, I see. Maybe you should grow more before assuming things of others?
@@hotelmoscow8665Tate is pure immaturity
As a wise dragon once said “is it better to be born good? Or overcome your inner evil to become good.”
Or something like that
So you're asking, is it better to be Aang or to be Zuko?
Iroh was my favorite even as a kid. He was everything i wished for in a dad
same
Zuko was NOT abandoned by his mother. She willfully killed the former Firelord after he ordered Zuko's death at the hand of his own father, Ozai. She did it to SAVE her son but also had to accept exile as a punishment because no matter the reason, no matter the fact that this put Ozai on the throne, it was still the murder of the previous Firelord. She did this knowing the consequences but also knowing that if she didn't Zuko would have died because Ozai most certainly would have killed him. He didn't care. This is not abandonment by any stretch.
It's actually an interesting interpretation of the Judgement of Solomon. Ursa is a true mother because she would rather her child live on in the hands of someone else, than to have her child die in her care.
@@FabbrizioPlays That also happens in the story of Moses, where his mother has him put in the water in a floating basket and he is found and raised by Pharoah's daughter.
You don't have to be Iroh, or even strive to be like Iroh... rather, be the best you that you can be. That would be enough for Iroh. Avatar the Last Airbender is my favorite show, and Iroh is one of those reasons. Leaves from the Vine is a heart wrenching moment, and I think it's important to show this powerful man crying. Boys are raised to "be tough" and basically not to cry, but here we see Iroh, showing his emotions, in one of the worst situations a person can experience, albeit several years after the fact.
I think that's the lesson Iroh tried the entire series to teach Zuko, that you don't have to "be good enough" for the expectations of people who don't care about you, rather being true to yourself and kind to others is the truest display of being as a person.
Leaves from the vine episode (The tales of Ba Sing Se) was the last episode that the original voice actor Mako performed, he passed away shortly after recording it. The picture of Iroh's son is actually of a young Makoto Iwamatsu (voice actor), the character of Mako in Kora is named in his honor.
Yin and yang, balance...Emotional strength comes from expression, but also control, if emotions control you, you are like a child, an adult can say "I am hurting, I need help" without being less.
Be true to yourself, if you enjoy something, enjoy it freely, but being mature is to not inconvenience others in the process, show respect for others.
Men and women can do these things, without being less of a man or woman, media would say a "strong, independent woman" does what she wants, even if it treats someone else like trash, nor can she ask for help from anyone, because then she is being "weak", and in the same vein a strong man needs to be able to do anything while not showing any pain or emotion, asking for help is "unmanly", and a man does what he wants, even if it also puts others below him.
I agree here, Iroh is an amazingly well written character who sets an example for everyone in avatar, Zuko needed to learn restraint for his emotions, and later it was Toph who needed to learn to ask for help, and all of this was not done high handedly, Iroh had the humility and respect to not put others down, he made sure to build them up.
To look at masculinity as 'man-ness' as opposed to 'boy-ness' is a take I haven't heard much before. I like that perspective.
I kinda regret using the word "opposite" in that context. It's not so much the opposite as it is the natural and necessary progression. Boyish immaturity in a grown man isn't exactly the opposite of masculinity, but rather a failure to grow and change. I guess you could define that as opposite (like I did in the video), but it's a hazy definition.
You could say masculinity isn't really the "opposite" of anything. It's not the opposite of femininity, it's just a different way to express different virtues and traits. A piano is not the opposite of a violin. Masculinity is living in the golden mean of virtue, between the two vices on either extreme of a trait (humility between pride and self-shame, for example) and thus there really isn't an opposite.
Glad the point resonated with you all the same.
@@master_samwise That is such a good description of the relation between masculinity vs femininity. Not putting a 'masculine' or 'feminine' label onto specific virtues like strength or caring and emotions (as I've seen in many other places). The virtues themselves being neither masculine nor feminine, but the expression of these virtues indicating whether we would typically perceive them as masculine or feminine.
Thanks for making such a great video on ATLA and masculinity; you've really knocked it out of the park on your last few ATLA videos!
@@fluxions2837 Exactly. Every virtue should be strived for by men and women, but we're going to express them in different ways (most of the time). So glad you've enjoyed the videos!
@@master_samwise _That_ is definitely a good way to put it. Don't worry about me, I think I got the gist of it, but I tend to write ridiculously long comments ;)
Your other comment about the different ways to express virtues, yet that we should all strive for them regardless of 'who' and 'what' we are is also a very good message.
@@master_samwise Masculine or feminine are not the embodiment of a specific trait as though that trait is exclusive. Rather, if you look at traits like they are a piece of music, the distinction would be that piece being played on an electric guitar vs. a piano. It's still the same tune and melody, but the instrument carrying that out will change its color and flavor.
Iroh and Oogway are both in that amazing place of "Pretty much the most powerful person around, but only wants to help people heal, not hurt them more."
Iroh's younger days, we need a series of that
Imagine what an absolute monster that man must have been in his prime
True, as long as it ends before he has a son, i don't need the emotional trauma of seeing him holding his son knowing what's gonna happen
No. Not because it lacks potential ... but they have the potential to butcher it so, so bad and ruin the Iroh we have now.
I don't want to risk him.
Honestly the fire nation may be fascist but that doesn’t mean they’re all bad people, since the people of that nation are very caring and compassionate and most of all prideful, they deeply believe that being ruled under the fire nation is for the best but never knowing that their actions will only lead to the destruction of the other nations culture and stripping them of their identity. It’s the main reason why we can’t see the nation as entirely evil, since fire no matter what is not good or evil but can cause huge amount of pain if not properly controlled and guided.🤔🐱
I like the Fire Nation episode where Aang blend himself in as a student. When the teacher teach the class the virtue of imperialism, Aang's the only one felt uncomfortable that he protest because he saw the reality behind the virtue, while the rest of the class didn't because they think it is NORMAL to have that virtue as a ideal way to bring "prosperity" to the world.
A good man in an evil nation will be corrupted by its influence.
The fire nation is not fascist.
The fire nation is imperialist.
@@talisupremacy7176Not mutually exclusive
@@MILOPETITWorld War 2 taught us well.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 Tbh just look at actual fascists nowadays. And look at anyone who's pro Russia. They all have the same beliefs (which are basically indistinguishable from Nazis)
Mad props to the guys who voice acted Iroh. The first for doing such a good job, and the second for matching the previous' voice and expanding on it so well that I didn't notice the change at all until this very moment.
Iroh is the embodiment of the old saying "strong enough to be kind".
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Can't express how good it feels to see more and more people putting this message out there these days.
It's so funny that iroh would let people you know pick on him or put him down because he knew that he could just fire blast them to death if he chose to.
He's pulling a Ms. Marple. People assume he's an old, lazy, fat man of no importance and so they tell him all their secrets. Then the steel mind snaps shut and they're left there stuttering...uh, what happened?
He was already a Monster physically in season one, remenber when he threw a boulder with his chains?
Avatar still being talked to this day just shows how amazing the show did before the era of smartphone. Definitely worth the rewatch.
The insecure fool lashes out in anger to prove he's strong
The confident man withholds his strength to prove he is kind
The truest display of power is knowing when not to use it
Bro the episode where Iroh visits the grave of his son still makes me cry
When he loses his son he not only sees the world differently, he also reacts much different than most. He does not blame the Earth Kingdom for defending their home and doing what they had to. He blames himself for forgetting what truly matters in life. He blames himself for not realizing sooner and takes the responsibility of his actions, not blaming others for the path he taught his son to go down. He then reflects on it and does better for Zuko teaching him to learn from the mistakes made of those who came before him. Especially when Zuko realizes it when he meets the dragons.
Being a good father(-figure) is in fact pinnacle of masculinity. Almost by definition.
Honestly, I feel like if anyone else was going to become the start of a new line of Avatars, it would be iroh.
We need an irho prequel series to see his full back story written by the og creators.
what we want is not always what we need even if we say that we need it
it is always wanting but not always needing
I agree that masculinity and femininity aren't opposites. For masculinity and femininity, immaturity is the central problem that occurs. Men need to be strong enough to protect their family, to be a father that provides while women need to be wise in order to raise their child.
But it's not a single parent job to raise a child to begin with.
A mother can be strong but often needs to be the last line of defense, a father can be wise but only to give another perspective on life.
The big mistake comes when people assume 'masculinity' means 'I have the power and authority' and for someone to be 'feminine' they must be 'I am your servant and will not question you or challenge you'. Demanding authority and demanding obedience is weakness and the opposite of being masculine. Someone who is masculine carries themself in a way that they are trusted and the decisions and choices they make for themselves and others are decisions that people go along with because they trust that person. I see so many men whine and complain about women and how they aren't feminine because they don't blindly obey them and change everything about their lives to fit what 'the man' wants and decided... when those same men have not shown any reason why that woman should trust them.
22:10 Iroh was a realist, and he knew Azula was too far gone at that time to be helped. Honestly we need a post show story of Iroh teaming up with Azula because at that point she lost EVERYTHING!!!! Just like Zuko at the beggining of the story so that could be the moment his wisdom has some effect
that would be pretty interesting to look at and think about.
I always thought Iron saw Azula like a Rabid dog.
It’s not the dogs fault that they got rabies, it is just a dog after all, under any other circumstance, the dog could be taught to not be dangerous.
But once they have rabies like this it is too late, the dog has become a danger to itself and anything around it and as such must be put down.
@@frankwest5388 eeeeeeeeeeeh. kind, kidna not. Rabies is a virus. mental health is a whole other can of worms
I just realized Iroh being a character in Gintama would be hilarious and fit so well in that ridiculous world
Iroh could single handily beat the wanna be man in a argument (if you know you know) but not through aggression but through being calm and nice aka the opposite of his philosophy of being aggressive and rude
24:50 I believe you're right here. HE gave Zuko A LOT OF ADVICE!!!!
BUT
he realized that the thing that changed him the most was that date he went on!
Yes Zuko let Appa go but it was because he knew that is what his uncle wanted and Zuko loved his uncle more than he cared about his honour at that point.... that's the metamorphosis he went trough. But I believe that Zuko, that saw firebending as a purely destructive tool to get his way, learned more by lighting the candles on the fountain than any where else before that
Tate's masculinity is a show and just self serving. He shows a picture of success and people pay him for lessons to emulate that success. He knows they probably won't succeed or find happiness and he doesn't care. He also has a desperate need to feel like the boss of every situation so to be an Alpha dog and will belittle anyone or come up with a fantasy that a certain group of people are after him to instill some false sense of importance.
Iroh is the complete opposite. His personality, how he treated others and the lessons he imparted were from the heart. He helps other people because he feels its the right thing to do. He doesn't care how strong he is or perceived, he doesn't care about he throne. Iroh, for a large portion of the story was a homeless old man who traveled around with his angry nephew and still stayed who he was and was happy. He even forgave Zuko after the betrayal.
One is real and trying to live his life like a 2000's rap music video(he tried rapping and sucked) and the other one is a cartoon character whom if more people emulated then the world would have been a better place ages ago.
18:07 WHAT?! Iroh's VA went the way of Netero's VA!?
God those scenes are so powerful
Nux dunking on the Redpill clowns is why I know he's not just funny but a good dude!! 😂👍
0:16 the guy forgot to mention Iroh's attraction to hot goth girls.
I think Iroh gave up the most of his status when his son died actually. He withdrew his men after finally breaking through the wall, a shameful thing to do, he lost the throne and didn't fight to get it back. I would have liked to read about what all happened at that time and how Iroh is still alive lol.
I love the OG anime analysis type of vidz, I know they require more effort but they’re appreciated
Iroh should be the word in a dictionary for being a true man
Alway's hate when people conflate stoicism with emotional incontinence, regardless of whether they are attacking, or advocating for it.
The Stoa is about acceptance, and moving forward. It's literally emotional maturity.
It's a great video but I agree with Nux that the man seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding about what stoicism is. Iroh IS stoic. All the time. Stoicism is not synonymous with being emotionless.
I disagree that fighting does not make you a better man. Every actual fighter I've met has been incredibly good at the Iroh traits.
There's a difference between an idiot getting in a stupid fight and a warrior who can defend himself.
Thats not simply fighting though, fighting is not itself a virtue or a thing that makes you better, but rather that fighting, physically, verbally, or emotionally, is something that those who are good will undertake for their morals and loyalties and further grow from in turn, it is a form of conflict, just as any struggle in life is, and just like any other conflict, there are lessons to be learned should you be keen for them, rather than merely seeking battle and fights for their own sake
Not all who fight are wise, but those who are wise will know when to fight
What you are describing is discipline of character, which genuine martial arts instructors attempt to impart to their students.
@@spiritvdc5109 Well, it seems common to fighters of various types...soldiers, martial artists, even some rugby bros who saved me from getting stabbed in London 7 years ago. Seems pretty universal that guys who fight have these traits.
@@michaelwellen2866Andrew Tate is a world champion kickboxer and rapist
Bro I remember first watching that and having a a full 30 minute convo with myself
The thing about Masculinity and Femininity is that they are not mutually exclusive, and often share overlap. They also aren't just about what specific attributes they're associated with, but the context surrunding how those attributes are expressed or implimented.
Stoicism and strength are often seen as masculine traits, but they are not truly masculine in-and-of themselves. Stoicism in the face of adversity, in order to keep calm and do what needs to be done? THAT is masculine. Strength for the purpose of controlling those around you, to further your own ends? That is not masculine.
Gentleness and supportiveness are often seen as feminine traits, but just as with masculinity it's the context around these traits that is important. Gentleness in the face of necessary conflict is not feminine. Supportiveness for the purpose of helping those arround you succeed IS feminine.
These traits can be embodied by anyone, regardless of their sex or gender. And the thing that I think many people don't understand about Femininity and Masculinity, which is REALLY important, is that those traits are not attributed to their respective sexes because society arbitrarily decided it should be so. These traits aren't attributed out of social construction, at least not entirely.
Masculine traits are masculine because they're traits that men generally are naturally drawn too over other traits. Feminine traits are much the same, they're feminine because those are the traits women are naturally DRAWN too, not necessarily because they were told they need to.
It's this lack of understanding that has caused creators to have their characters shun masculinity, while wrongly applying masculine traits to female characters. Having a female character be strong and stoic isn't the problem, it's that the writers believe masculinity is bad so they apply those traits in the worst ways, ways that arguably aren't masculine at all.
It's almost paradoxical! They take away GOOD maculine traits from male characters, and then give female characters BAD masculine traits. It's honestly baffling how often they do this now. Masculinity and femininity aren't about expressing and embodying the associated traits, but HOW you impliment and express them. That's the difference between good (true) masculinity/femininity and bad (toxic) masculinity/femininity.
So by your logic aizen isn't masculine?
B-b-but mah red pill
@@sadrakeyhany7477 I'm going to assume you mean Aizen from Bleach. And no, he's not a good example of masculinity. Aizen is deceptive, cruel, and arrogant. He sees himself as better than others, uses his power to control and harm others.
The biggest break in his facade of false masculinity is when Ichigo gets the better of him. He loses his composure and effectively throws a tantrum because his own ego won't let him accept that someone else had surpassed him.
Aizen may seem masculine on the surface, but the way he expresses and implements those masculine traits is not something you should aspire too.
@@jacobyullman5005 bruh, aizen is definitely someone you should aspire to be, those type of guys go very far in life. and unless you are some crazy prodigy or something, don't even attempt in achieving high-goals the honorable way.
Edit : and masculism isn't morally exclusive.
@@sadrakeyhany7477 You think you should aspire to be an egotistic psychopath with a god complex just because he was successful? One who throws a temper tantrum the second things don't go his way? We're talking about how these traits apply to making one a better person, not a successful one. Being successful doesn't mean you're a good person.
I think you're missing the point of what i was saying. Masculinity and femininity aren't morally exclusive concepts, yes, but the point is that true masculinity and femininity are the kind that you should aspire too.
The discussion around what is truly masculine or feminine is about what kinds of traits should be aspired too as a method of self improvement. Real masculinity and femininity should be virtuous ideals to strive for.
If you think you should ignore honorable ideals and virtues because they won't make you as successful as being a deciever and manipulator, then you have a long way to go in learning what's really important in life.
Iroh is NOT the Pinnacle of Masculinity, Iroh IS the Pinnacle of humaninity. independent of gender, race, politics, religious or social view. Iroh is what everyone should strive to be
Credit where it's due, the replacement VA for Iroh in season 3 did a very good job replicating Mako's very distinct voice and accent. I still miss the old guy. I first heard Mako's voice as the narrator of the Conan the Barbarian films.
For one, Iroh would not start a feud with a teenager and get himself caught because he was careless enough to leave clues to his location. He knows when to walk away rather than waste time with a pointless fight.
Iroh is the pinnacle of masculinity *because* of his struggles. He embraced his hurt, went through it with his eyes open, and conquered it.
Finally a video i can get behind, Uncle Iroh is a certified CHAD
I hope my brother goes through his zuko arc because he's so bitter acting like our parents did the same to him
The saddest part of why everyone loves him so much is because everyone wants and needs and iroh in thier life but sadly not many get a person like him
i always wonder what happens to this talented writer that made this show...
if only these people exist in this timeline maybe show isn't as bad as today
There is two of them: bryan konietzko and Mike dimartino
They should write a book about how they developed their writing styles because that would be a good seller
random szene:
Nux: i love that szene
every time.
iro, as most other characters, made this show what it is. iro is the father everyone needs, zuko the big brother, aang the little brother, katara, the big sister, toph is the little sister, sokka, honnestly is more like that goofy uncle that always does strange funny things but you can count on him(or at least you can count on him at least trying to help)
but iro is just strong in every aspect, even in showing emotions, and hiding them when necessary
This had me thinking of Stoic The Vast and how he grew with the entire franchise and changed to help his son. Might be a good character to cover but i havent seen the movies/series in a while so im not fully sure
I love your "Giga Chad" voice. It's hilarious
11:52 It's also a bad interpretation of stoicism. Stoicism isn't about being unaffected by everything, It's about knowing what you can and can't control, accepting what you can't and making the most of what you can.
11:52 it's not lack of emotions, it's control... I'd often see my grandpa mad... but rarely see him sad.
But when it hit him the hardest... I saw him wheep for the first time.
Being a pillar doesn't mean you don't have emotions.
While I disagree with the philosophy of words are wind... I fully see where they are coming from... over time words affect me less and less
And even those that do affect me I stay calm, I try not to outburst to something like an insult or words said to me.
two instraments playing the same note will sound different. damn that hit anyone else hard
Tate has some, SOME, good advice. The character he portrays and the length he goes to rubs me the wrong way. Iroh is The Man.
You would love the song "Coward of the County." In the song, the subject, Tommy was always told that a man doesn't have to fight,if he can help it. Well some people press his Berserk Button by going after a person he loves and he lets loose.
Iroh is a real warrior, a real father, and a real man
if 1/4 the population (both male and female) had Iroh as a role model, the world would such a better place.
Iroh truly is the goat! One of the best characters in avatar, and one of the most powerfull four if i recall right.
Unlike Andrew Tate, Iroh’s lessons feel real, and applicable to real life. Tate just feels like he’s selling you some masaciline lifestyle that’s too good to be true, and too ridiculous to be real scenarios. The scenarios he provides, no real person would do or go along with. The wisdom Iroh provides, doesn’t just connect with men, but it speaks to the human soul. All of the insecurities and emotional or mental obstacles we face in the journey to finding ourselves.
Honestly, after thinking about it... Iroh might be my favorite fictional character of all time.
Iroh is without a doubt a g.o.a.t. I would love to have Iroh as an uncle. And come to him for advice on any potentially life changing choices.
Bruh, can you do a "I have no enemies" video, please? Like an actual philosophy
Or as the sign on my mom's dining room wall says, "Youth and determination will never beat old age and treachery."
How dare he imply the Boulder is an idiot! The Bolder is a world renowned scholar!
1:36 is it the power in his hand?
🎶 is it his quest for Glory?! 🎶
I think whats great about 'that scene you were talking about' iroh in the prison cell when he turns away
zuko thought he was going there for advice, but he was really going there for vindication.
iroh recognized that zuko iddn't want advice, he wanted to be vindicated of his decisions, to be told that it was 'okay'
but it wasn't.
iroh turned away not because he didn't -want- to help his nepher, but because he recognied that in that moment, he -couldn't- help him.
and you can see in his face how much it hurts him to do it.
Someone needs to make a meme titled:
The Virgin Andrew Tate vs The Chad Uncle Iroh
'THIS GALADRIAL' lmao
He is a nuclear weapon that has 4 layers of security just to find the on switch.
Yes Nux, I am crying when hearing Leaves from the Vine
Avatar has no filler. The end of the episode was about appa and his footprint. Which came up later. Even though it was to horror Mako.
Uncle Iroh: “I was not angry with you. I was sad that you’d lost your way”.
Be the person Uncle Iroh believes you can be.
Uncle Iroh is the definition of the dad who stepped up
Men do have emotions but there's a time and place for that. How you present yourself is important for success. Nobody likes that whiny, wimpy, and blubbering vegan. What people like is stoic, strong, and aggressive (within reason) men. That's a fact of life.
We recently held a sermon in a Christian men's group I volunteer with that goes over the place anger has in our lives.
James 1:19-20 "Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God."
Anger can be a useful emotion. It can be the catalyst for correcting terrible injustices that we see in the world. But if it is not tempered with the guiding hand of purpose, then it ceases to be an instrument of righteousness to promote good in the world, instead, it becomes destructive wrath that can burn down the things we care about most. Probably not the spiritual aspect @Nuxanor was referring to but it seemed appropriate for the theme of the video.
My two favorite verses touch on this a bit as well. So I will leave this for anyone who would like to read more.
1 Corinthians 16:13-14 "Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love."
Is it weird that I’m getting recommended these videos he’s reacting to about 2/3 days before Nux posts a video on them?
ayo nice to see you reacting to some master samwise, guys content is pretty dope
You know on the opposite quality, can we see how much WORK it takes for Iroh to guide Zuko from anger and revenge of a bad parent, into being an actual whole person.
We must understand our darkness and embrace our worst selves, so we can rise above ourselves, and do what is necessary. Wisdom to know, and courage to do. Those are the traits of man.
I love how he shows bumi in that video... Yeah, bumi also subtly displayed good masculine traits...
Any video talking about Iroh: plays
My tear ducts: "Get ready boys!"
This may be a wierd pivot, but Legend of Zelda is based on 3 core virtues, that fit well in this context, and perhaps even help explain why they are virtues.
Wisdom, to know what's right.
Courage, to do what you know is right.
Strength, to see it through.
Fine I guess I’ll go rewatch Avatar
Bing a generous person is not being a man. It’s a part of being a man. Because being a generosity person or being a giving person as you put it is an action which mean being giving technically can’t be a personality or who you are only an apart of.
Iroh is top three uncle of all time.
Who are the other two?