Hi, Thanks! The drill that I used was a vintage Millers Falls drill. I've made several of these winding machines with similar hand drills made by Craftsman and Yankee. There are many old drills like this available on ebay for less than $10. The main modification I did was to unscrew the original chuck, replacing it with the bow clamp (made from fuel tubing and small hose clamps). I also removed the wooden handles from the drill, using those mounts to attach it to the wooden base that I made.
Thanks Oleksandr. For the silver wire, the most common diameter is .30mm. I also use .20mm, .25mm and .35mm diameters to add more or less weight. As for the length of the lapping, the length will vary somewhat, but the total length is usually about 75mm long, but could be anywhere from 65mm to 85mm, depending upon the desired effect to the weight and balance of the bow..
Thanks for the question HSTrueMan. The white part that holds the upper part of the bow was made from ~.5" thick felt that was made for piano hammers. I got it from the guy that tunes my piano. I know of someone that made this part from several thicknesses of an old mouse pad, cut and glued together. All you really need is something that is a bit stiff, but has some softness to it to hold the bow in the right place and to prevent it from getting scratched as it turns in the fixture.
Josh I really enjoyed your videos. I am hoping that you will post more and demystify the entire bow making process. Of course you can keep some secrets.
I have a lot of questions: 1 How to most excellent weigh instrument bow?-Where should be center of gravity in bow? 2. AD 1: I bought big stock of silver wire (0,3 mm) and i don`t won`t to use other wires. Where is point of starting a silver grip and point of finish the grip? Thanks
A violin bow is approximately .345”diameter=1.083” per turn of winding. Using sterling silver wire 28 ga has a diameter of .0128”, weighing .280 gm/ft ; requires 78 turns/inch x 1.083= 7.04 ft of wire/inch and weighs1.97 gm/inch of winding, 30 ga has a diameter of .0100” weighing .155 gm/ft; requires100 turns/inch x 1.083”= 9.03 ft of wire/inch and weighs1.40 gm/inch of winding 3” of 28ga winding weighs approximately 5.91 grams 3” of 30ga winding weighs approximately 4.20 grams
Hello Sir, love your work! Would you mind telling what kind of soldering you've used to sold silver? I still haven't found any answers from other makers. Hope you can help me! Thanks 👍
Thanks for watching the video and for the question. The solder that I use is a silver-bearing, lead-free solder that is made for electronics work. The diameter of the solder is around .5mm and the silver content is 3%. There are many different brands of solder sold, but this type of solder can be purchased online through an electronics repair supply or through Amazon.
Hi This is GREAT !! Question I made the gig. but the wiring does not go on straight or stay tight.Why is this ? The bow Iam fixing is not straight I noticed. Alot of curve to it. Maybe its the guage Iam usung I have just regular 28 Guage Silver wire from Lowes. Can you give me help please Thanx alot
Hi Josh, Cool video! I'm a Musician here in NYC and I've been doing fretted instrument repairs for 10 years here in town. I'm now getting into Violin and Bass repairs. Lots of Upright players here! I love your jig for wrapping the wire. I have one of those Millers Falls hand drills. I'm thinking of building the same jig. Did you put a bolt through the back where the small handle unscrewed? I think it's no problem to match the threads at the hardware store.
Hi, this is a great video. I was wondering what power your soldering iron is, and what type of silver solder you use? My experience with soldering the lapping is that it requires a high enough temperature to melt the solder quickly while minimising the risk of scorching the stick. Thanks!
Yes, I do silk wrappings, but not with the wrapping fixture seen here. When I do silk, I always do it by wrapping the threads by hand because I'm usually inter-wrapping two colors or wrapping silk with tinsel. I've never covered silk lappings with shellac, and don't really see a reason to do so. Normal 0
@keyzo1956 I would love to know more about this winding machine and see some pictures!! Please contact me through my website (TH-cam won't let me put a link to my website here, but it can be seen if the first few seconds of the videos.) Thanks.
Hi, Thanks! The drill that I used was a vintage Millers Falls drill. I've made several of these winding machines with similar hand drills made by Craftsman and Yankee. There are many old drills like this available on ebay for less than $10. The main modification I did was to unscrew the original chuck, replacing it with the bow clamp (made from fuel tubing and small hose clamps). I also removed the wooden handles from the drill, using those mounts to attach it to the wooden base that I made.
Thanks Oleksandr. For the silver wire, the most common diameter is .30mm. I also use .20mm, .25mm and .35mm diameters to add more or less weight. As for the length of the lapping, the length will vary somewhat, but the total length is usually about 75mm long, but could be anywhere from 65mm to 85mm, depending upon the desired effect to the weight and balance of the bow..
where can I buy the silver wire?
This is a wonderful method, and I've now used it for two bows. Thank you so much!
OMG! A video on TH-cam that is not an ad!!! And if this was one, I would buy the DVD!!!
Thanks for the question HSTrueMan. The white part that holds the upper part of the bow was made from ~.5" thick felt that was made for piano hammers. I got it from the guy that tunes my piano. I know of someone that made this part from several thicknesses of an old mouse pad, cut and glued together. All you really need is something that is a bit stiff, but has some softness to it to hold the bow in the right place and to prevent it from getting scratched as it turns in the fixture.
Josh I really enjoyed your videos. I am hoping that you will post more and demystify the entire bow making process. Of course you can keep some secrets.
Thanks for a fine and useful instructional video. Indeed, not all of us have ready access a bow repairer. Kind regards
Thank you for what you do to show us how you do it. It just good to know how i# done. And the work you go through.
Thanks for sharing your process, Nice posting.
Steve Beckley
This vid is so helpful, thank you for sharing your knowledge!
hey man, that was just amazing, thanks for sharing
I have a lot of questions:
1 How to most excellent weigh instrument bow?-Where should be center of gravity in bow?
2. AD 1: I bought big stock of silver wire (0,3 mm) and i don`t won`t to use other wires. Where is point of starting a silver grip and point of finish the grip?
Thanks
Found it, its great too. I'm bookmarking these!
A violin bow is approximately .345”diameter=1.083” per turn of winding.
Using sterling silver wire
28 ga has a diameter of .0128”, weighing .280 gm/ft ; requires 78 turns/inch x 1.083= 7.04 ft of wire/inch and weighs1.97 gm/inch of winding,
30 ga has a diameter of .0100” weighing .155 gm/ft; requires100 turns/inch x 1.083”= 9.03 ft of wire/inch and weighs1.40 gm/inch of winding
3” of 28ga winding weighs approximately 5.91 grams
3” of 30ga winding weighs approximately 4.20 grams
Clever! Thank you.
Great video!
Hello Sir, love your work! Would you mind telling what kind of soldering you've used to sold silver? I still haven't found any answers from other makers. Hope you can help me! Thanks 👍
Thanks for watching the video and for the question. The solder that I use is a silver-bearing, lead-free solder that is made for electronics work. The diameter of the solder is around .5mm and the silver content is 3%. There are many different brands of solder sold, but this type of solder can be purchased online through an electronics repair supply or through Amazon.
great video. Like to know where could buy slive wire?
thanks for the video, and the comments on forums that go me here.
Information, great
Hi! Love your video. What should be proper wire width of the thread?
I love that wire wrapping tool you made. Great video. Where's the one for the thumbgrip? :)
Can I use wire that is 0.3mm thick?
Can i use silver, nickel, or stainless wire?
I really enjoy your videos! How do you figure out the length and the diameter of the silver wire?
Incredible! what name of hand drill and # size is this? What modifactions did you do to fit it to your jig?
How to decide, how much of silver wire do we need on the bow?
Hi This is GREAT !! Question I made the gig. but the wiring does not go on straight or stay tight.Why is this ? The bow Iam fixing is not straight I noticed. Alot of curve to it. Maybe its the guage Iam usung I have just regular 28 Guage Silver wire from Lowes. Can you give me help please Thanx alot
Hi Josh, Cool video! I'm a Musician here in NYC and I've been doing fretted instrument repairs for 10 years here in town. I'm now getting into Violin and Bass repairs. Lots of Upright players here! I love your jig for wrapping the wire. I have one of those Millers Falls hand drills. I'm thinking of building the same jig. Did you put a bolt through the back where the small handle unscrewed? I think it's no problem to match the threads at the hardware store.
Hi, this is a great video. I was wondering what power your soldering iron is, and what type of silver solder you use? My experience with soldering the lapping is that it requires a high enough temperature to melt the solder quickly while minimising the risk of scorching the stick. Thanks!
Try using rosin solder since silver solder usually won't melt until the wire is red hot.
Do you ever do silk wrapping? If so, does it get shellac or does it stay unprotected?
Yes, I do silk wrappings, but not with the wrapping fixture
seen here. When I do silk, I always do it by wrapping the threads by hand because I'm usually inter-wrapping two colors or wrapping silk with tinsel. I've never covered silk
lappings with shellac, and don't really see a reason to do so.
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@keyzo1956 I would love to know more about this winding machine and see some pictures!! Please contact me through my website (TH-cam won't let me put a link to my website here, but it can be seen if the first few seconds of the videos.) Thanks.
Anyone else’s bow wire loose or untangled