American Couple Reacts: Great Fire of London! 1666! FIRST TIME REACTION!!
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- American Couple Reacts: Great Fire of London! 1666! FIRST TIME REACTION!! We talked about doing this in another video that only gave a slight mention of it. There's a lot of information here and the chills this video gave us are still felt. The Great Fire of London was an absolute devastation of insane proportions! We learned so much about it in this episode and yet there are still so many questions! A part of History that will always be talked about, even though so much will always be unknown. Let us know if you learned anything with us. Also, we had several questions during and after the Reaction and would love your responses if you have them. Thanks for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our TH-cam channel and it's FREE! Also please click the Like button. Thanks so much for watching!
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We talked about doing this in another video that only gave a slight mention of it. There's a lot of information here and the chills this video gave us are still felt. The Great Fire of London was an absolute devastation of insane proportions! We learned so much about it in this episode and yet there are still so many questions! A part of History that will always be talked about, even though so much will always be unknown. Let us know if you learned anything with us. Also, we had several questions during and after the Reaction and would love your responses if you have them. Thanks for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our TH-cam channel and it's FREE! Also please click the Like button. Thanks so much for watching!
Just ignore the trolls ,
You ladies are great and upload great content 👍
@da90sReAlvloc we do ignore them, they actually do help our videos with their comments though 😆
@@TheNatashaDebbieShow why of course, how are you both, hope you're doing really well?
Do love your videos, take great care both of you!
@@TheNatashaDebbieShow as for your question ,
There is a 4 part TV series called the great fire 2014 about it. But no. Actual movie,
Great video you ladies stay safe 👍
@The Natasha & Debbie Show , You are both awesome and the trolls are just jealous because they most likely cannot create fantastic videos like you both can. Keep up the awesomeness 😎🤟
London being a very rainy city is a myth. For example New York has on average twice that of London per year. Being foggy is another. Almost 0 fog in London. It used to have smog caused from coal fires. Love your vids. 👍
Exactly, It's the UK as a whole that has a high rainfall average due to the gulf stream carrying moisture leaden clouds from the Atlantic and smacking them into the hills and mountains on the west coast..
Exactly it bugs me that Americans think it rains all the time here ,we are 74 and America is a 112 down the list of wettest countries in the world it's not that big a difference considering how big America is.
@@tinastanley3552 True, But we don't help the image, Also because the amount of rainfall and the frequency with which it rains arent the same thing, It seems fair to me to say it rains on a lot of days in the UK, But that not a lot of rain falls each time it rains 🤔 unless your in the west of the country that is lol..
@@Markus117dRome and Paris both get more days of rain a year on a average than does London if you look a weather data
Very true and if the UK was a state in America it would be only the 28th wettest state, but of course there are places in the UK were we do have a lot of rain, the Lake District for example which on average it has 200 wet days a year.
Interesting point, a wedge of Parmesan was, quite literally, worth it's weight in gold at the time
Worth every penny!
Still used as a form of unofficial currency in some parts of Italy today. "What did that car cost?" "Oh 5 wheels of 4 year aged Parmigiano."
Absolutely right
So were Pineapples, only people akin to Royalty could afford one. They were so revered that wealthy people would " rent one " for a dinner party, just to grace the Table, never to be Eaten. Pineapple fronds can still be seen today as part of the decoration on the ornate Railings that you see around very old buildings.
The reason Samuel Pepys has a Blue Plaque, is because his diary is one of the only written daily records of the Great Fire of London and life in the 1660s etc. His Diary is a classic read for students here
Definitely a good read for the post-Civil-War tensions going on in London. People forget this was a very politically charged time and the King's reign hung by a thread.
The Diary runs to thousands of pages and it's hard, or expensive, to get hold of a complete and uncensored copy. If you download a supposedly "complete" free version from the Internet it's, in fact, a Victorian edition, and in the very first paragraph some words are blanked out in which Pepys mentioned that his wife had her period.
@@AlejandroPRGH What people would be after is the Latham & Matthews set of Diaries printed/published from 1970 to about 1983, 11 books (9 books covering the diary years and two books that are reference books). They are as near to the original volumes as can be got by ordinary people. I was lucky enough to purchase a whole set which was well over £100. It was well worth the money. The part that covers the fire is amazing, especially if you watch youtube videos explaining major fires and the noise they make, you sense what the Great Fire of London must have been like. Pepys writes on the evening of the first day of the fire how he and his wife watched the fire from an alehouse on the south side of the river "We staid till, it being darkish, we saw the fire as only one entire arch of fire from this to the other side the bridge, and in a bow up the hill for an arch of above a mile long: it made me weep to see it. The churches, houses, and all on fire and flaming at once; and a horrid noise the flames made, and the cracking of houses at their ruins". The fire had a bow of flame that was a mile high?
www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1666/09/02/
You might now be interested in 'The second great fire of London' 29th December 1940, the most intense fire bombing of the City of London during the Blitz and the remarkable efforts to save St Paul's Cathedral
Well said.
The free tours by foot London did a good video about that
When I went to the Museum of London's Fire! Fire! Exhibition, they said the death toll from the Fire was 6 or 7, but the following winter was absolutely bleak, and the death toll among those who were made homeless was well into the many thousands.
My mind immediately goes to the children. Their poor unfortunate young lives were probably already difficult as life was for everybody alive in those day apart from royalty. But they lost their homes, and then were left to freeze to death or die from whatever it was the killed them. And it wouldn’t have been painless because painkillers basically didn’t exist back then. And opium was rare/expensive. I’m glad I wasn’t alive and living in London during the aftermath. I’d have ended up with a house full of displaced children and would’ve probably bankrupted myself to keep them alive. That’s what I’m like. Couldn’t give a frig about adults because they don’t give a frig about me! But children? I couldn’t not help them!
The death toll was definitely higher than they reckoned.
Hi ladies, you may be interested to know that when the new Globe Theatre was being built in London about 40 years ago, they had to get a special dispensation to construct it as it was to be a timber structure with a thatched roof which had to be treated with a fire suppressant.
London is very dry in relation to the West of the country. It even has less rain than Rome which has a much warmer climate. It is a myth that it rains all the time in the UK. We do get plenty of rain, especially in winter, but we also get some prolonged periods without any rain at all. Last summer was particularly dry and much hotter than normal. They are talking about building extra reservoirs outside London due to water shortages in summer.
Just found out that it rains almost 3 times as much in Cincinnati as it does in London, I’m not totally surprised, the heaviest rain I’ve ever seen was in Indiana, but what we do get is light drizzle a bit more often
I remember reading a theory about how the fire may have started, under certain conditions flour particles suspended in the air and around the bakery can become explosive and may have combusted when they came into contact with a lit candle or a still burning ember in the oven.
That is true. It was also a real risk in rope 'factories' where the very fine, organic particles from the rope-making process would build up gradually on rafters etc and could explode into flames from a single spark.
I grew up in Tenement Blocks around the Docks area of Liverpool and I can still remember in some houses they still had the open Ranges to cook on with built in Ovens which people would take a great pride in and they would use Black Lead to polish them. These houses were only built in the mid 1930s and the fire was a source of not only heating your home but a means of cooking too. By the mid 1960s most of these had been replaced by an open Fireplace and a Gas Cooker fitted in the Kitchen. Those Ranges are worth a pretty penny today.
My Gran in Kelty in Fife had a range like that. It gave off a marvelous heat without being too hot or stifling. With the coal fire in her living room, it was the most comfortable home I have ever been in.
@@angusclark8330 I know what you mean Angus. In the Winter, they were the best form of heat you could have and when combined with a Toasting Fork and some crusty Bread, the results were amazing 😊😊
@@stephensmith4480 Thanks for the memories, Stephen. Toast was never better than off a toasting fork near a real fire. I tried with electric fires, but it wasn't the same.
@@angusclark8330 Your Right there Angus. When we were Kids, Friday was always a Bath night and that meant some Jam and Toast before you went to Bed with a little cup of Tea and The weekend was then ours to go and play out with your mates. Happy Days my friend. Best wishes from Liverpool 👍😊
@@stephensmith4480 And from Scotland to you.
There is one detail I'd bring up, especially as it relates to what you were saying at the end of your reaction.
It was actually the bakers maid who discovered the fire, who then woke the baker. Not only did that act save the bakers family, it allowed word to spread before the fire started consuming surrounding houses. So she could very well be the reason so few died. Unfortunately, we will never know who this maid was as there are no surviving records.
Also, the Duke of York should be remembered for actually fighting the fire up close and personal. While the King was gathering and sending resources, his brother was on the burning streets, like a general rallying his mauled troops, directing what efforts should go where.
As for causes, I think most believe the baker had left hot embers when he went to bed. He denied it but it's the most plausible theory. Another theory being that the maid discovered the fire because she accidentally started it by knocking/dropping a candle
We have just had a week with no rain. In the summer in my part of England we may get six or more weeks without rain. It varies from year to year. We have had droughts and water rationing. Large grass fires in the countryside etc. This was a problem when we had steam trains as embankment grass fires were put out by staff and sometimes passengers alike.
To get a feel of what the streets would have been like look at theShambles in York
I know I'm late to the party ( 1 year) but an understanding of how traditional ovens worked would give a really good clue as to how the fire might have started.
To heat the oven up you build a fire inside the clay structure until the internal temperature is super hot. Then, you rake the fire out on to the floor to make room for the food insode. Once the food is placed inside, a wooden door is put into place, and sealed shut using either clay or bread dough. The poven gradually cools down, cooking the food as it goes.
Obviously the raked out embers are a fire risk if not managed properly. Also, you would want to keep a few embers of your fire burning overnight, so that you could quickly bank it up at the start of th new day. These embers were covered by a 'couvre feu' or 'curfew' (french for 'cover fire') to prevent them being blown out, or catching light to the kitchen. This could also be an explanation for what happened.
The ferry men that were at the time taking people across the river for a small fee during the great fire actually hiked up there prices because they could see the panic rush in people wanting to get away.
Hi girls, just looked up Great Fire of London Drama, it was on ITV in 2014 and starred Tom Bradby, hope this helps you find it. I watched it and it was very good.
Recent investigation indicates that the fire began in the next road to Pudding Lane. How the fire started is now impossible to state, however the probability is it was from a poorly tended open fire, a candle that fell over, a problem with oil lamp. You can never completely rule out arson either. As here is no physical evidence remaining we will never know. Thatched rooves were widely used in rural areas and posed too much risk in areas of dense population. Closely packed wooden buildings and the dry summer meant that conditions were ideal to propagate fire.
As another comment points out, Parmesan Cheese was incredibly expensive at that time. Although Pepys was quite wealthy, he was a civilian administrator at the Admiralty, he couldn't afford to lose such a valuable commodity.
Bear in mind that the ability to fight fires in the 1660s was very rudimentary. Parishes provided their pump if you were lucky, but this had to be fed with water by hand (bucket chain) from a well or stream. it had to be positioned very close to the seat of the fire, there were no hoses. This meant that they were not at all efficient at fire fighting. Better than nothing, but only just.
Stone with crack and explode when subjected to sufficiently high temperatures. Mediaeval churches although predominantly stone did contain a lot of timber, particularly in the rooves. Witness the recent fire at Notre Damme a couple of years ago. Bear in mind that ANYTHING will burn if you make it sufficiently hot.
Do not trust the casualty figures. They would only indicate the members of the higher strata of the population. The number of common folk will never be known because it would not have been sufficiently important to the authorities to record it. also the plague was still rampant, the fire is thought to have contributed to it's demise in the city, though obviously not elsewhere though it was probably declining naturally by then.
N.B. In the previous decade there had been a war with the Dutch over maritime trade. A Dutch fleet had sailed up the Thames and destroyed many vessels of the Navy at Chatham. The problems were relatively short lived and relations with the Dutch have historically been pretty good.
That was Barbon's real name. he was probably of a family of enthusiastic puritans (like your own founding Fathers) and given a name to reflect their faith.
Insurance fire brigades were notoriously unreliable and never had a good reputation. The fire marks are still visible on some old buildings around the country and are highly prized by collectors.
The Ancient Romans had a municipal fire brigade that was better trained and equipped than anyone anywhere by this time and it was not until 1826 in Edinburgh (in response to a massive fire) that a municipal full time fire brigade was established by a Naval Lt, James Braidwood who was an expert on ship board fire fighting. He was subsequently poached by London and supervised the fire that wrecked the Houses of Parliament and died at a warehouse fire in 1847.
As the result of the fire in London it was decided that better provisions were required and the Superintendent of Fire from Amsterdam, Jan Van Der Huyden was brought in. He introduced innovations like the delivery hose (leather with metal rivets) and a crude water main fashioned from hollowed logs.
I know some of these obscure facts because I was a fireman for thirty years and I like history.
King Charles and his brother not only helped organise putting out the fire they both actually participated in manually pouring buckets of water on to the fire.
Hi Natasha and Debbie! The end of that vdeo, about early fire brigades letting uninsured buildings burn is not strictly true and is a bit more complex. Tom Scott recently did a video entitled 'I was Wrong (and so was Everyone Else)' if you want to check it out further.
There's also an article refuting it on the London Fire Services website
I watched that before Christmas. Good stuff.
The best precis of the great Pepys diary and a marvellous account of his amazing life is the biography by Claire Tomalin "The Unequalled Self". It was during the time that Pepys was keeping his diary that the monachy was restored. Britain - London in particular - was in enormous political turmoil, naturally, and Pepys was at the heart of the action.
This, the fire and the plague - Pepys lived in momentous times. Imagine living in Berlin at the time of the fall of Communism, the breaking down of the Berlin Wall and then throw in Covid and the destruction of Berlin by the Russians in 1945.
Although he was not an MP - and to general astonishment these days was never knighted - he spent much time at the House of Parliament - Commons and Lords - getting the inside track on what was happening. He himself had a very senior civil service job, Secretary to The Navy Board. He answered to The Duke of York. In those days the Duke of York [the younger brother of the monarch] was the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces [Army and Royal Navy].
There is a hilarious passage in The Diary where Pepys is one of a group attending the King and his Queen, the Portugese Catherine of Braganza. Suffice to say that this passage was one that did not make it into the very much edited Victorian edition of The Diary. Sam was a very naughty fellow and rightly got a lot of stick from his wife.
Even today, the TV historian/presenter Lucy Worsley went bright pink when the person explaining the event to her recounted this detail.
The whole fire insurance and them not bothering if you weren't insured thing turns out to have been a myth, Tom Scott did a video on it recently "I was wrong (and so was everyone)"
Hi guys I just watched the fire of London vid and u mentioned the black plague I am a new subscriber to your channel so I don’t know if you have done the plague if not did you know nursery rhymes were written to tell the children what to look for it they thought a person was a plague carrier “. Ring a ring a roses a hand full of poses a tishyou a tishyou we all fall down “ because the spots were in rings on your body any you would start to smell so they used flowers to hold to there nose then they would start to sneeze then fall down dead . There were so many graves that the graves stretched way out of London and were they finished they called graves end which Ed it is still called today . Love what you do guy lots of love from Andy of Felixstowe suffolk UK.
The tall pillar at the end is the monument
To the great fire you can go up inside
All bricks are hand mad back then.cheers
Let’s not forget the house walls were mostly made of wattle and daub (Woven sticks, animal dung or clay, and straw) so, it was super, super flammable, especially as the houses were in rows.
Hi ladies!
Just a quick note about weather, London is generally a bit warmer than Cincinnati in winter and a bit cooler in summer. Cincinnati usually has slightly clearer skies but less hours of daylight. Finally, Cincinnati has more days with rain or snow than London. (I am in Manchester, one of the rainiest places in England, deliberately built in the bowl of the surrounding hills to maximise damp conditions for the cotton factories. So far, 2023 has been far more sunny than not.)
Great video, I love learning about history. We have such an interesting history in the UK xx
I was going to have my wedding reception at Staple Inn. Put a deposit down and everything. Let's just say both that building and I had a lucky escape - at least I only lost the deposit!
Oh, and the Hall is absolutely gorgeous!!
Thx once again for an informative video and your entertaining reaction thereto. Logic suggests your next historical video might me on the Black Death in Britain, or maybe throughout Europe. A story to note might be that of the village of Eyam. Btw, a common misconception about London is that it rains a lot. In fact, in an average September it only rains 1mm or more on six days, which is less than in New York.
PS: Sorry about your cough! However, as my 10-yr old grandson said to me after I had a coughing spell whilst on Skype with him, "Don't worry, Gramps. It's not the cough which carries you off; it's the coffin they carry you off in!" 🙄🤭
Yeah thatd be ideal do next. Biographics has a good video up on it. Most others on here are either way too long or way too short to react to
I read a book on the story of Eyam. There is also a history program on it.
I live near Eyam and have visited it many times. A very tragic story but also shows the strength of the human spirit to protect others.
It's a myth that the UK is always raining. We are known to have long periods of dry weather, not necessarily hot but just dry, like last year where we were warned that if we don't get enough rainfall over this winter we could experience a drought later this year...so no it doesn't rain all the time 😁
I saw a documentary a couple of years ago, where they did some digging around the area of the Great fire, and they started finding clumps of burnt wood and melted lead etc. It was pretty interesting.
great video yet again ladies, so tragic . i learned a lot of the London history by visiting London dungeons with my high school is 2003 , that was creepy and i ran into a mirror and apologized to my reflection because it was dark.
Yup. That’s what a Canadian would do too. Apologize!
Despite popular belief it isn’t always raining in the UK. Particularly through the summer we can go for weeks and weeks without rain. Just last summer we actually had a drought and in many areas in the south were officially on a drought footing and water was rationed.
Remember that Pepys was a high enough rank to do something about the fire if he had acted when he first saw it. Definitely started in the bakery in pudding lane , but actual cause not known, only suspected! There are documentaries arguing that it did finish the plavue, some avenue that it didn. Death toll unknown because of lack of records.
Yes there was a t.v. drama made and it was in four parts it was called "THE GREAT FIRE" and it was first aired in 2014.
I remember reading Pepys account at school when we covered this in history lessons. It was taught in relation to the end of the plague. I didn't know about the mayor running away and the King taking charge. Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Bloodworth is quoted as saying,on the second day of the fire, "a maid could piss it out." That was the last day he made an appearance...
Learned loads, thanks girl. Like you I did learn about the Fire at School and even visited Pudding Lane and Monument to the Great Fire. The Fire and the subsequent years following would make an excellent drama series.
Soooooooo looking forward to this- preemptive like!
Wooow, lots of difficult topics, Also, seeing this in the light of the Frost Fairs and such where there were eta marking changes
In WW2 St Paul's Cathedral only survived burning down due to the brilliant work of civilians tackling the incendiary bombs landing on the roof. There's great film footage taken from the roof of the cathedral that night showing the fires below totally surrounding it in a TH-cam video titled LONDON FIRE BRIGADE DURING BATTLE OF BRITAIN MOVIE 28232A - almost looks like The Great Fire 1940 - the sequel.
Thanks for the video, I did learn some! A few interesting things to note.... Firstly, September in the UK can be really hot and dry. 5 days with no rain is not uncommon. Secondly, some of those early insurance companies from the 1600s STILL EXIST. For instance, that plaque with the sun emblem that the video showed belongs to SunLife Insurance, which only 'recently' changed their logo. Thirdly, I read somewhere that if your house was on fire and you didn't have insurance you might get approached by a gentleman or two who would offer to buy your house while it was burning. Obviously, since it was burning, you would sell it cheap in desperation to get any sort of money out of the disaster and save whatever contents you could safely carry out. Sale agreed, the new owner would slap an insurance emblem he'd handily brought with him and call the fire brigade he'd kept waiting just around the corner. They would put out the fire and he'd be the new owner of a fine piece of London property to add to his portfolio. You, however, were left with a paltry sum and whatever belongings you'd managed to carry out. It was a cut throat business!!
Although we are famous worldwide for our weather in the uk. We do in fact have large spells of dry weather where our river/reservoir levels drop that we have to have hosepipe bans where we aren't allowed to water our gardens, or wash our cars etc.
I loved learning about the great fire of London in primary school, it's the first thing which sparked my interest in history. That and the black death.
We do know that the fire started in Pudding Lane but we don't know for definite if it started in the bakery but it is the best theory that we have as for the specific location for the start of this fire.
The movie "England, My England" have the scenes of the Great Fire in London 1666, also the movie "Restoration", made form the book with the same name, have a reconstitution of it too.
I watched a documentary about the fire the other month on British TV channel Channel 5. They aired a whole, in-depth series in 2017.
There is a monument in London showing where the fire started and is exactly 202 ft tall so that if laid on its side, it would mark the exact spot where it began. You can visit it and walk up the steps of the interior to view London from the top. All visitors get a certificate for doing so. £6 per person.
You mentioned the plague , you should look up about Eyam the historic plague village in the Peak District, every child in sheffield at least (where I come from) is taught this in school and you may be able to find a video or such about Eyam all schools do trips there uts beautiful and at the end is Hathersage church where there is a grave of little John of Robin Hood fame ! Xx
Love how you thanked the trolls. Looking forward to magic Monday. Ignore the haters
Another great reaction video ladies. So nmuch so I have watched it twice!
My favourite subject at school was History and it still is.
I have my own theory that the fire was started on purpose because of the plague the year before and they didn't want the plague to start up again, but we will never know.
A good reaction video would be on the plague of London as I think others have mentioned in their comments.
Keep up the good nworkn girls! You are smashing it!
Talking about famous diarist, then you should react to Anne Lister, who was written in code. The person who translated it and brought it to the world, Mrs Whitbread was a Supply teacher at the school I attended. Had her for a few lessons. You may know it as'Gentleman Jack'.
The BBC made a drama series out of it, very good.
I was just gonna suggest this
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The destruction was equivalent to all of Cincinnati south of W & E Liberty Sts to the river being burnt down.
Great video ladies. While I knew about the fire, I didn’t know about the insurance or how few people died. I thought it would be many, many more.
I thought I was pretty knowledgeable about the fire, I've watched a few documentaries on the subject but I still learned quite a lot of new facts about it. Thank you 😊
Very interesting,to learn about early London,and what it looked then to now .
1776 - isn't early. 43 AD is early...
There was a docudrama made for ITV in 2014 called 'The Great Fire'. And the museum of London I think has some videos (on TH-cam)of one of their exhibition about the great fire.
I really enjoyed that and learned some stuff.I liked the girl in the video too and her manner.Ive also loved having you girls on screen 3 times so close together!xx
Great video! This was a really well made on to react to as well.
During our Civil Wars, or rather during the Commonwealth / Republic period specifically there was a Parliament (as in the official parliament of the country) known as the Parliament of Saints, but better known as Barebone’s Parliament - named after Praise-God Barebone (which would have been 13 years before this). There was also a Unless-Jesus-Christ-Had-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barebone but it’s unsure if that was his Baptismal name or his brother’s. That’s Puritans for you… I imagine there’d have been similar names in New England at the time too
Also Barebone’s house was one of those engulfed by the fire, one of the westernmost houses to be burned
The plaque and fire insurance is exactly how it worked in the US, until the late 19th century - supposedly if you didn’t have a plaque your fire didn’t get put out, that’s largely a myth as they would likely put the fire out otherwise other buildings would be at risk, you just wouldn’t get a payout.
They have some examples in the Philadelphia Fireman’s Hall Museum (and presumably elsewhere but that’s one I’ve been to) - and of course Cincinnati had the first professional fire department in the US in the mid-19th century
Note the "old" London bridge in the pictures. Recent research has questioned the actual starting point of the Great Fire. There have been several TV programmes on the fire but I don't think there's a movie. It doesn't rain ALL the time over here, just often.
Its quite surprising that the number of casualities was low giving the time of when it started and how fast it spread and had so many factors against them. I have been to the area and seen the monument, stayed in a hotel on Pepys street which was named after Samual Pepys & had information about him. In the London Megacity reaction you did 2 weeks ago they spoke about that it is a myth that London gets a lot of rain, and it gets half the rainfall of New York which you were surprised about, the West and North get more rain & the East of England gets less especially in warmer months.
Hi Natasha and Debbie, just a little more info about the Great Fire of London. It burned for 5 days in total, more recently they discovered more than 100,000 people ended up homeless and it destroyed one third of the city. I have an old map of the area showing the size of London and the area burned down with details of every church and public building (library, town hall, etc) that was destroyed.
Also, they used gunpowder and blew up many houses to create fire breaks quickly. The fire started from a stray ember from the oven of the bakery.
Debbie is so adorable it hurts
The fire may have been contained in 4 days but my experience with big wood fires is that heavy rain does not put them out.
In my time working for the Royal Parks Dept Tree Gang we had to take down a large stand of 100+ year old elm trees on the island in the lake at Osterley Park [a couple of miles short of Heathrow air/pt] because of Dutch Elm disease [Thanks again, Canada. First the grey squirrel then 'Dutch' Elm disease]. We burned all the timber from these trees in a huge fire.
On Fridays we stacked it up and went off for the w/e. There was torrential rain all one w/e. It was still raining when we got back to the park on the Monday morning. I rammed a big stick deep into the top of the pyramid of ash and in 5 minutes the stick was burning and we had our fire back in action.
A friend who was a fireman concurred. Even after being hosed down so that a fire is no longer visibly burning, ash and embers can remain 'live' for days and reignite a building. No doubt this happend scores of times in The Gt Fire.
[We had the same job in the grounds of Buckingham Palace. The difference was - no easy disposal of the timber in a fire. Every last twig andd leaf had to be carried from the site, across the lawns to a trailer, BY HAND! The Head gardner, with the highly appropriate name of Fred Nutbeam, refused to allow us to use even a wheel barrow. As each tree represented many tons of wood, this was a grunt]
Great video as always ladies :) As me and my daughter were watching this 2 fire engines actually whizzed past our house with lights flashing & sirens blazing... how bizarre =D Keep up the great shows, we love them :)
There’s the odd tale of Mrs O’Leary’s Cow. A myth that she was milking her cow kicked over a lantern starting the Great Chicago Fire in 1871. Brian Wilson wrote a very odd song about it on ‘Smile’. Became a children’s song. We had as a kids song ‘London’s Burning’.
GREAT NEWS MAGIC MONDAY WOOHOO. Sorry for the shouting but it is exciting news albeit a brief return. Love, hugs and prayers from Sussex, UK PS Regarding the names it is true people were named like this and I believe it was still going on in the Victorian Era.
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Yerars ago, my Mum and I climbed the Fire Of London Monument. I think it has 365 steps with a railed viewing platform almost at the top. When we reached the top, my Mum wouldn't step out as she was afraid of heights. What a silly Billy
Most of England is incredibly water stressed, you're thinking of Ireland, Wales and Scotland - maybe a bit west of the Pennines too, but a lot of the country is in rain shadow. London gets about 2/3 the rainfall of Rome in Italy and about half that of Porto in Portugal, which most people would consider hot and dry - it's not as warm, but it's temperate which is no bad thing - but there's not a lot of rain. One of the things about rain in London (and a lot of England) is it's a lot more balanced through the year, the rain volumes in summer aren't much different from in winter, whereas say Rome is incredibly dry in the summer and very wet in the winter - people are more likely to visit in summer and so presume it's just as dry all year round. By the way on fire insurance Tom Scott recently put out a video saying essentially the if you don't have insurance thing might not be true - he had some research done and couldn't find any evidence for it.
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Knowing exactly where my family lived, they had a ringside seat on the opposite bank of the Thames to this and many other historical events from the 1500s onwards. Due to the house's overhang is why traditional men walk on the outside of the lady as they walk down the street, I still do it today. It's pretty much accepted that the baker's in pudding Lane is where it started
I thought I was the only one who'd heard of this piece of etiquette (thanks to a childminder I had when I was very little). I kind of assumed she was slightly eccentric lol. Glad to discover it was actually a "thing"!
@@catbevis1644 my grandad told me back in the 70s he said back then nowadays it's more about a car mounting the pavement by accident etc or shielding from a car going through a puddle and soaking me not her if the man is on the outside.
@@tobytaylor2154 Yes I remember being told it was to shield Victorian ladies' silk dresses from passing carts spraying up mud.
@@catbevis1644 back in 1666 it was the lady was under the overhung house and the man on the outside to protect her from household and body waste being dropped out the 1st floor window
Great video, you could consider that the kings ban on wooden houses in London, and prior to that no thatched roofs rule was the beginning of building codes, and that building codes can be considered to have been written in blood.... Also worth noting that Notre Dame cathedral suffered extensive fire damage in 2019 despite modern firefighting equipment and techniques so worth taking a look at that to get an idea of what the old St Paul's looked like when it burnt.
It seems odd not but its basically about payment. Its private enterprise.
If you don't have a plaque on the wall then you've not paid to have your house saved, and if it's not a plaque from the company that turns up, then you've not paid them to save your house you've paid someone else so it's up to them to provide you with that service.
Obviously this idea was eventually changed and along with a tax increase the London fire brigade was formed then this idea eventually spread everywhere, with hydrants being installed for the fire service to gain access to water.
The fire breaks didnt work immediately because they pulled down but left the rubble so it still managed to catch the next house onfire. They eventually made sure the space was cleared to leave a proper gap.
The tower you briefly saw at the end of the video and that the lady didn't mention was raised to comemorate the Great Fire. You can climb to the top of it, It gives a great view of the area involved.
"The Monument" is a 202ft *column,* built by Wren, with 311 steps exactly 202 feet away from the old supposed source of the fire on Pudding lane, but coincidentally also near to the now revised source on what is now Monument St.
We were taught at school that it started in the bakery and spread across London.
That's where the term " big wig " came from. The nobility and more important people literally had big wigs.
It's a myth that the Great Fire helped to end the Plague ! It was already on the decrease way before the fire and only parts of London were affected by it .
Rain won't put out a fire ! It has to be highly concentrated jets of water in specific places. Plus the fact that , contrary to popular belief, it DOES'NT always rain in the UK and specifically London !
Another factor in the fire spreading so quick was that London was actually full of gunpowder left over from the civil war, gunpowder was also used to blow up some of the streets to create the fire breaks especially around the Tower of London as pulling down by hooks was too slow
I walk past St. Paul’s on my way to work every day. Best building in London IMO. The skill involved is astonishing 😮
Hi! This is a very interesting and informative video. If you go up The Monument, which is near London Bridge, you get a really good view of London. When I went to The Museum of London I saw the large model replica of the Great Fire of London in 1666, it was very impressive. The museum also had Vistorian styled streets which gave the effect that you were walking through Victorian London. I really enjoy your videos, have a nice day.
It sounds ridiculous to bury cheese, but back then it was probably one of the most expensive things he owned.
Just watched this and I have to agree on the lady giving the commentary. She is very clear in details, with that little twist of humour thrown in. A few years ago, there was a program about the Great Fire of London where a scaled model was made, recreating the buildings and then it was built into a barge on the River Thames and set alight. It gave a good insight into how the fire spread. I think the program was a school project? Might be worth finding. As to how the fire started? There are many theories but I don't think anyone really knows for certain.
Another brilliant video, thanks to the people who are pointing you in the direction of great info! Looking forward to Monday - take care.
Many fire plaques still exist and are collectable. They can be found on popular auction sites.
We were taught at school that the fire started in pudding lane... Great video thanks 😊
It does rain alot here in England but we also have long periods of good weather too.
The rain makes the country green but the ground stays damp and we can enjoy the sunshine.
Remember in 2022 we had our highest ever recorded temperature of around 44°c in the shade(111°F) In my garden I recorded 48°c.
118°f
So the answer is no it doesn't rain all of the time
And that heatwave led to the most fires in London since WW2, and in my area, the most fires ever.
40 °C (104 °F) , but in 1808 seen 38°C with 50 million people less.
She was fantastic! Great reaction lovely ladies. Yes you're right Natasha there is conjecture about who started the fire and that it actually had nothing to do with the baker. There was a documentary about it on the BBC but my goldfish brain can't remember the details.
In my home town, we still have some old houses with the fire badges on them.
Hi - first time on your channel and it seems I picked a good one to start with. I really enjoyed this, and your reaction to the story of the fire (so much so, I subscribed). Two things to mention here: 1) Yes, there is a LOT of debate over exactly where the fire started. The Pudding Lane origin has been hotly (bad choice of word?) contested recently. 2) A recent documentary I saw really challenged the death toll. The fire raged through large areas of poor London, where people lived on top of one another. No-one knows how many lived there - and as the heat from this fire was so intense it destroyed bone, we will never know. The documentary I saw said it could possibly have been thousands who died and burned to dust during those 5-6 days. Oh, and another point - the hiding of the cheese. As ludicrous as it sounds, this was sensible back then - such cheese was an expensive, luxury status commodity.
It’s not that it matters where Samuel Pepys lived, but a lot of people are interested because he’s very famous in Britain as a diarist. The Black Death hit Europe in the same year, so we have first-hand accounts of life at that time because of this man. He’s like our version of Italy’s Pliny, who wrote about the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD.
Two of the main theories of how it started are that either someone raked out the oven and accidentally left a glowing ember on the floor, or that flour and dust in the air could have created an electric spark.
Although it says "Old St Pauls had scaffolding on it" it was actually pretty much a ruin before the Great Fire. The reason there was scaffolding was because the spire had collapsed 100yrs previously and never been restored (there was even a song about an apple tree growing in the ruins lol). Even with extensive restoration the underlying subsidence would have made it impractical to maintain in the long term. At one point there was even a rumour that the fire was a deliberate ploy to finally destroy the old structure once and for all but this is clearly untrue since the fire didn't start here and they would've had no idea which way the flames would spread.
On the map at 18:00 on the video you will see on the far righthand side how close the fire was to the Tower of London. This was the biggest worry out of all during the fire as that's where most of England's store of gunpowder was. We were that close to London going into orbit!
Even as the fire was ongoing, people were already blaming foreign forces. The Dutch were enemies largely for our competition on the sea and in the New World- New Amsterdam had become New York only two years earlier (named not after the city of York, but after Charles II's brother James, Duke of York mentioned in this video). Catholics (eg the French) were also a popular one for blame. There were stories- during the fire!- of people beating up foreigners or lynching the foreign neighbour they'd never really liked and now had an excuse to hate. The King and his brother James sent out men on horseback to basically rescue any such foreigners and they were taken back to the palace to escape.
While on the subject of the King and his brother, they literally went down to the fire and stood there with the ordinary people hauling buckets of water up from the Thames and personally digging fire breaks with spades. James in particular was seen to work like this from dawn until dusk. Londoners never forgot what the brothers did at that time (When Charles died 20yrs later, it's said that ordinary poor people cried openly in the streets). [Side note- our current king once said that he considered the name unlucky for kings, presumably referring to the first Charles's unfortunate incident with an executioner wielding an axe. I think calling the name "unlucky" is rather unfair on the second Charles.]
As for the aftermath, like the Blitz the rebuilding was ongoing for decades, and money had to be found to build all these churches etc. Modern banking and economics (as well as the British Empire) might not have been conceived as a result of the fire, but their influence speeded up considerably as a result of fire-ravaged London needing money. A lot of laws were relaxed to speed up the process of rebuilding (and other laws strengthened to ensure it never happened again), and London was well on it's way within 20yrs of the fire.
As for the ordinary people who lived in the vast tent cities, not much is known. In those days of course, with no banks, they'd lost not only their homes but all their wealth and probably their job too. It's certainly assumed that a LOT of people froze to death in the first winter after the fire because they were homeless, but no numbers have ever been reliably put forward. In those days, you had to have permission to set up a trade in a new town (so like, if you wanted to open a bakery the local dignitary could say no, we already have Mr Smith whose family have been baking here for 100yrs). To help the vast number of people who'd been made homeless these sorts of rules were relaxed so people could travel more freely to new towns and so put less strain on London's wrecked infrastructure.
If either of you are big readers, I highly recommend The Great Fire of London by Stephen Porter.
And the Dutch..... the year after the fire, while everything was in ruins and people were homeless and starving... they literally sailed up the Thames, attached a tow rope to our flagship..... and stole it. Must have been the slowest getaway in the history of crime with all these witnesses helpless on the riverbanks lol. The nameplate from the ship is still on display in a Dutch museum.
I'm from London we were taught that this was an accident in the bakery, but today, although this was the most likely cause, and definitely did start in the bakery it may have been arsun and started in the bakery by a group of Dutch people because there was a conflict in London at the time
You asked if it’s certain the great fire of London started at Farriner’s Bakery on Pudding Lane. The answer is that it’s definitely a recorded fact that the fire started there. It’s not so clear where “there” was. The city layout has changed a bit since, obviously! The actual start point is now generally agreed to be a few yards away from the monument and round the corner a bit.
the last thing ide think about is saving my wine and cheese just getting out and being safe
A small piece of information the insurance fire brigades were rivals and even went so far as sabotaging each other at a fire. This is probably why the Fire Brigade was formed :)
This is partly a myth. There is no evidence of them actually sabotaging each other, though there is evidence of them not actively helping each other. There is also evidence of them putting out fires for rivals if there was a neighbouring property that was insured by their own company. There's a good, fairly recent, video by Tom Scott about it, but it's called, IIRC, something like, "I was wrong"
I worked in the Custom House Lower Thames Street. Blue Plaque for the fire can be seen where fire started, go see if you have a bimble after going to the Tower of London. It was the bakery. They didn’t put it out properly but it made so much damage due to the houses hence the suggestion of pulling down houses. Pepys buried cheese in his garden 🤣🤣 great book True Story. Audio book by Kenneth Branagh via Audible. It’s very easy to listen too.
Hi Folks, The fire did not end the plague (probably), the areas affected were different (plague was East of the City I think) and it was pretty much over the year before.
I think the fire starting in the bakery by accident is most likely.
The fire brigade driving off if you had no insurance sounds a lot like American health insurance. 😂✌️♥️🇬🇧
The bit about plaques isn’t entirely accurate. They would still fight fires in uninsured buildings, partly because they’d get paid for doing it, and partly because of the risk of fire spreading to a building that was insured by them. I think Tom Scott did a brief video covering it.
Kind of disappointed she showed the monument, but didn’t actually say what it was…
Some of the insurance companies started after the fire still exist.
Another great video! I learned a lot of new stuff, re learnt some things I’d forgotten and even had a myth or two dispelled! Oh yeah, and 1m35 was especially good 👍😉
Samuel Pepys was Secretary to the Navy and was responsible for much of the reorganisation that led to the Royal Navy becoming dominant in the 18th and 19th centuries.
In 2016 To mark the 350th anniversary of the great fire, A re-creation was built on the river 120 m long and it was set on fire in the evening there are videos of this on TH-cam well worth a look xc
The video made it seem that it was easy to use the hooks to pull the housing down to create the firebreak’s , but in fact it was quite difficult. It got to the point that the fire was consuming the buildings faster than they could be demolished and the materials cleared away so the Lord Mayor who was in charge of the firefighting efforts had to request a supply of explosives, which at the time meant gunpowder, from the King as the only large quantity was held on board the Royal Navy ships and in the Tower of London armoury, so the King had to issue orders for the gunpowder to be released to the firefighters. Bearing in mind that it the Gunpowder Plot was still in living memory, it is not surprising that the head of the Tower’s security and others were hesitant about letting people off the streets to have the explosives, so they would have had to request confirmation from the King, all of which took time, adding to the fire and confusion.
Interesting that she points out that there were no thatched roofs - I always had it in my head that the hooks were to pull burning thatch off. I agree that pulling a building down that way would be a bit daunting - some of those timbers were pretty hefty !
if you think that was bad try and think of the devastation during WW2 both here and in Germany. all the best to you both. Rab
Imagine the much bigger wood-built cities of Japan showered with incendiaries.