Just providing an update here to say that i made a follow up video which you can view here: th-cam.com/video/VqeiLbksP_w/w-d-xo.html Here is a google drive including all the screenshots and evidence: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uJw7ike7Ciws4kQ8qFDk13rPsgaz_l6k?usp=sharing
Yep. Time to load my watch them burn in a ball of digital fire and eat some popcorn while I do gun. And then ready the watch nothing at all happen shotgun because nothing will probably be done about it sadly
Doesn't really matter if anyone harasses them or not, because even if someone does begin harassing them they will either ignore it, or try to make that stuff even more to piss off even more fans...
Love how youtube becomes insanely blind when channels have valid bannable offenses, but age restricts anyone that says a bad word like a bipolar drunk.
it's cause it makes youtube money in the grand scheme of things and i hate it so much... they're a company at the end of the day only worrying about their income
Lol and then there’s the fat that Helluva Boss episode 1 isn’t age restricted (even though there is a disclaimer in the video saying the content is 18+) but Every Thing Wrong With episode 1 is age restricted
As a patient fan of Viv, her crew, and her work. It frustrates me to see these channels make these "bold moves" on us. They intentionally put up those thumbnails, and then they say "oh, it's a fan art cleanup". Well I call bullshit and I'm not gonna have it!
Agreed. People just trace over whatever story board was made and then call it a fan animation or “not the official scene” it’s weird and highly upsetting.
@@buttonsbox2476 Fanart is ok but not giving the original Artist is wrong i asked viv if it was ok for me to draw her helluva boss she said yes as long as i give her credit viv was really nice but since Ntsg steals art i stopped doing and posting my Fanart of helluva a boss for viv she liked my drawing on insta kind of sad fans can't post art and worry about it getting stolen Ntsg ruined artists and fans art i was watching viv at comic con and she loved other peoples fan art such drawing and cosplaying but now its sad fans wont be able to dress up as there fave charcters or draw them with Ntsg around since he steals art
@@Ace_not_awake Art theft is one thing there is certain rules to when posting art make sure to read artists insta if it says do not repost or steal dont so if you want to do fanart do it the proper way like i said in my comment above give the artist credit viv loves fan i seen videos of her at comic con likeing peoples fan art of charcters i even asked on live if it was ok i draw her charcters she said its fine but i got do # vivizepop and other stuff like that and its ok but what this guy does is sick
Thank you for uploading this video! I never realized the NTSG and Greenleen problem was that bad. Like harassing Viv and her team isn't cool 😕 "and all the other crap that their doing" Hopefully something can be done.
People who do these things disgust me. Viv is trying her best, why can’t you understand that? Who cares if we have to wait longer, what we need to think about is the creator’s wellbeing. It’s upsetting that people don’t see that.
Your're right, these people are so immature and need to get a grip. Why can't everyone just understand that health is the most important thing, like, it's only a delay we'll eventually get season two plus Viv said that episode eight wasn't that important to the storyline. As you said these people are disgusting and TH-cam should do something about these people (I'm looking at you ntsg😑)
“New video/sneak peek” show a screenshot of a tweet then repeat what’s already shown to people publicly or at least was posted in several TH-cam channels
They also take advantage of the fact that Viv and Co. are giving us such beautiful content for free and using that generosity to pounce on her when they don't get their way. It's disgusting.
You dont understand? Well guess you dont know what the entire human population of Earth is like because I do and just have cone to accept it because you can try to take these channels down, more will come and more will avenge them.
Anonymity brings the worst out of everyone. In cases where someone is already a deplorable scumbag, they take full advantage of having little to no irl repercussions.
You know what's sad? NTSG constantly calls out "Western" aggression basically, western youtubers and whatnot, if it's against him it's western. He also supports the war on Ukraine, and he's only driving a wedge deeper between the stereotypical views of Russians by "Western" countries. He's reinforcing these bad stereotypes.
Woah woah, he literally supports the war on Ukraine wtf?! The war that led to many homes lost, forcing its people into refugees, and had to suffer losing family, livelihood, and their own lives, and forced to live in fear and limited supplies to go by because Russia wanted their territory and refused to leave them alone? What the actual hell.
@@temin2776 His comments were mentioned in the video, I don't personally follow him so I was commenting on the statements the video author made. Whether they're entirely factual or not I can't say, but if there is some truth to them it seems like a poor way to view western culture while also reinforcing the stereotype of anti-west Russians.
A creator's mental health and responsibilities come first before anything else. Vivienne is a human being, not some animating robot machine. We need to give her time to work on the show. It's not going to be released immediately. Animation is a tough process, and she is trying her best to keep up entertained during the wait. The least we could do is respect her and give her the time she needs.
I am a betinning animator myself, and therefore know how long hand-animation can take, especially with such complex design. I still think its insane that some people harass viv for "being slow". ANIMATION TAKES FRICKIN TIME, FOLKS.
Thanks for talking about Greenleen Moxxie, I been posting screenshots of his stolen videos and community posts on Twitter to spread awareness about this guy
As an artist myself seeing stuff like this just disgusts me to the core glad that people are speaking out about it including youtube being lazy and not standing by there own guidelines that effects other creators out there aswell
Oh my god finally someone talked about NTSG. I keep getting recommended videos of their trailers but even when I chose the option "not interested," I keep getting recommended with spam trailers with the same footage.
The sad part about it, is that people ended up believing it at first but after the videos become repetitive and pretty much have the same content I'm sure they know it's fake but I guess they just want something to watch and believe in until helluva boss & hazbin hotel come back ... 😞💔 and believe me I used to be one of them but after realizing how the content was pretty much the same thing multiple videos, I did research and found out indeed fake so I instantly unsubscribed and thought it wasn't fair how they leaked her patreon content like that! 😠
I thought NTSG was original. I only followed his community tab because I thought the art there was cool. I didn't know that he steals from other creators. Thank you for making this video, it opened my eyes.
Be real. You know good and well HH or HB will have a villain based off these people. Perhaps it’s already being considered with Mammon, since he’s already a sleazy con artist who ripped of Lu Lu World.
As for anyone who attacks Vivziepop, Teddy Roosevelt said it best, leaving aside the gendered language of his era: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
Something needs to be done! They can't just steal content like this, Vivziepop is the true creator of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss I mean I know there's a lot of talented people who made comics of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss and they did fantastic, but there's other people who just wants to ruin it all for us.😬😒
thankully Vivzie is aware this kind of stuff happening. I kinda was planning to pull trick on some claiming things official by saying like "How about we ask, VIVZIE?!"
@@MrPhantaze U do have a point there. I mean they can't just make a comic about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss without credited the original creator of the show.
Helluva Boss is like a unicorn; it's an amazingly well done animated series that Vizie put out largely for free on youtube... why anyone would fuck with that (let alone antagonize the creator after being caught ut for being a shit) is just beyond me.
The artists who animate the teaser trailer do that FOR FUN To test how well they can work with one storyboard sequence. They're not doing it to deliberately click bait people. You can shame the art thieves for that. Literally shut the fuck up
First there was that Toytaker weirdo and now these creeps. Vivzie seems to have found her own colorful corner of Hell, possibly more psycho than the infernal locales she animates.
I recently seen the drama continues video regarding viv dealing with toxic fans berating her and harassing her crew. I have had my art of HH stolen in a vivziepop group and fb in the Spanish speaking community when I told them to give me credit for it and even linked my DA to it or I'd report to admins. The admins basically did what NTSG said "its free game" even though I, the artist they took from never gave permission for it. From there I never drew HH art ever again.
@@krysert4552 yeah no people shouldn't need watermark their stuff if people like this are going around stealing said mark and using it for profit. If no one can respect the artists at all any more than I support them not drawing for said fandoms. Dont sit there and say "watermark it" when there's thieves who know how to remove it with no problem. This fandom is toxic to the creator and artists alike. If viv stops because of the fans. I will not blame her. That little answer of yours dont fix the problem AT ALL
@@ObsidianAngelQuinn umm...I-I'm sorry if I offended you somehow with suggesting watermark.....just tried to help you little since stealing art probably never stops....
Oh hey that’s me at 1:57, and unfortunately you are correct: I was none the wiser at what was going on at the time. I’m not really involved in the community aside from watching TH-cam videos, so I had assumed they were reuploads from the Helluva Boss Twitter or something, then I learned the ugly truth. :( Thanks for filling people like me in on the situation and continuing to give these morally bankrupt channels much-needed coverage.
I did not know about channels like ntsg, or all the backlash vivzie was getting, but I’m glad I now know. By putting this video out there, it helps people to not click on these peoples videos, raise more awareness about what they are doing, and getting them to stop harassing an amazing creator who is working her ass off to make free content, seriously wtf. 20/10 :)
5:50 I got copyright claims by them on my Helluva Boss reaction videos and did not know Vivziepop was associated with them until now. Really thought they were false copyright claims, but it is really strange why they are claiming a random section of reactions to the HB episdoes when they could just claim the entire episode
I feel awful for finding out about all this. Helluva Boss has been a great coping mechanism for me throughout the coronavirus pandemic and has made up for the amount of online hate I got. The show has made me happy. As a loyal supporter of Medrano, I never leaked any content from her Patreon as I don’t have a Patreon account and all I have done was write reviews of the show for my blogs, yet I doubt that any people have read them anyway. I would never steal fanart and profit off it either. People are free to point out if any content I use as research in a list of references is falsely credited, pirated or at risk of copyright issues and I’ll take action. Even though I’m happy that we’re going to see the launch of the second season next month, I think I might slowly start to feel unhappy with being a fan soon. It was bad enough I read a hurtfully offensive tweet against my favourite character and was once aggressively to stop posting about the show. I think my heart is going to break. 💔
Fun fact- if one decides to repost and clain fanart as their own instead of making new art, it's because they are still struggling to draw stick figures with a straight body. Srsly tho, ntsg needs to get reported. Or atleast see the responces from the artists he steals from. I would love to see his russian rocket bouncin ass respond with fals info when more proof goes to the artist.
Thanks for making this video. I don't think enough people know how bad is all of this and how much harm are doing this channels to the rest of the community and to Vivziepop. It's truly heart-breaking that vivziepop has to deal with all of this bullshit and harrassement... And of course, all artist that have their work stolen, specially if the channels are talking profit out of It!
The only person I counter was NTSG, since I remember him trying to make excuses for click baiting, it was One of the main reasons I never watched his vid’s. It does make me regret commenting on his community post, since now I know he’s been stealing the art from other artist and not crediting them.😔🐱
I went onto NTSG's channel and found one of their video titled "I want to make my own animation", and filled that video with Helluva Boss clips. Now there's only one part that showed what they are even making. It'd be funny if someone steal his OCs and if he ever confronts them they could just say, "Everything you upload to internet is free bro"
3:10: Ayye! That's my Twitter username. Thanks for including me in the video bud. Thought I'd spread awareness. 😁 11:21: Again, thank you. I did not expect this.
The argument that "oh they're doing it so I can too" is a elementary school argument used by second graders who saw another kid take a cookie from the cookie jar and not get punished, so they assume they can do it as well. Don't Be a Jerk kids, consequences exist to prevent situations like these from happening all the time. They still do happen but with consequences they happen less frequently. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk and don't tread on the three-headed bear.
To be honest i love Viv animations and i've been watching her work since her animation for Die Young-Ke$ha song, its pain for me as a russian to see people like NTSG, spit on our morals, cultures and support bad stereotypes with the media all together, bringing hate or harm on people who dont deserve this. From adequate russian audience we with you viv.
TH-cam’s moderation has gotten worse of the years to the point that copyright is easy to do here and post NSFW videos as well. This video proves both points and flames that TH-cam moderation needs to be fix. This platform is amazing but the people who do this and make death threats, harass people, and just plain up just don’t care is annoying. TH-cam probably won’t fix this problem until a long time when something “truly big” happens that TH-cam will “need” to fix it. I still love you content and helping us understand what’s going on! Keep up the great work
Thank you for making this, some of these peoples videos has been in my recommendations and while I notice the majority of them as fake I’m annoyed that they keep showing up.
I was watching ntsgLIVE a bit too. I saw their posts first when they uploaded some new teasers and stuff. I thought he just repost things that were postet on twitter. I didn't know it was that bad until I watched your video. Thanks for telling me, I'll definetely don't watch them ever again.
i feel so bad that i might have seen some leeked content. i thought that it was posted by viviziepop and other people were reposting it. i only have insta and youtube so i miss important info because of this and rely on youtubers. i hope she gets better and people stop harassing her
It’s sad to see people are liked this, trying copying the art and trying to call out the original owner that “She can do better” and the worst part about this is Viviziepop is trying to do her best but I guess people is too arrogant and impatient to see it
Thank you for this video. I was honestly subscribed to one of these guys and I've since realized this was clickbait. I'm going around to the "fans" to send them this video.
I honestly blocked all the channels mentioned because I was sick of seeing leaks from Viv's patreon in their thumbnails. I don't WANT spoilers and leaks, but YT kept shoving it in my face because I liked a few theory channel vids. Now I want all those channels and people perma-banned from YT because idc who it is, harassment campaigns are NOT right or justified.
NTSG's videos ended up in my recommended tab. and after realizing his videos are repost after repost. I flat out removed the videos from my recommended tab. I never thought he's a piece of s***. Thanks for letting us know of this.
didn't know this, but now I do remember that 3rd NTSG channel(kotyan) that keeps popping up in 'recommended' after every episode I'd watch on YT of helluva boss. How deep this rabbit hole goeees
I do have my own HB discord server tho every roleplay i do there isnt canon and even i still credit and respect viv for everything, and just roleplay to have fun out of boredom, not leak stuff for attention.
I have seen all of these channels pop up on my TH-cam feed but didn't click on them since they were not the official channel. The individuals making fake videos and stealing content from the creators of such a great show is upsetting, not only that but convincing fans to turn on vivziepop herself and destroy the very person everyone even thought of watching content for is just disgusting. Thank you to everyone who defended vivziepop in her time of need. Nothing is worth so much drama these days, there is so much more to life these days hell, working and then finding time on the side yo pursue this? Animation can be such tedious work and the hours upon hours these people have done to make as many of the episodes that already exist is amazing. They all decided to put forth an effort as a team and put it out on this platform for other people to enjoy. So just enjoy it for what it is, demanding more is like a spoiled child throwing a fit over spilled milk.
I always got so angry whenever a redesign came out and I got recommended one of NTSG's videos claiming they had a sneak peek of the first Hazbin episode. I think there was even one with Charlie where they showed some screenshot edits of her new design trying to pass it off as a sneak peek or Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow being reanimated with her new design. I always wanted to go on them and comment something telling them to stop but I knew that would just be engagement. And I had commented on and reported some of Greenleen's stuff and I just knew there had to be a lot of people on NTSG's videos not seeing what was wrong with them. It's saddening
i was actually involved in the greenleen discord drama, my boyfriend was a mod on the server but he got banned for no reason at all, and then i looked at the server again and the server had most of the members banned, i wasnt banned for i assume not talking that much in server?? and there was some evidence that greenleen themself might have been grooming some people.
Yeah, I mean they already shouldn't be on youtube anymore anyway due to youtube's ban on making more channels if yours gets taken down. These deplorable, morally irreprehensible losers should be IP Banned immediately.
@@masonaguilar940 agreed, its like constantly biting the hand that feeds you. Like don't these people have anything even slightly meaningful to do with their lives? What lame-os lol
@@Mentelgen-1337 basically the bots run off a navigation mesh for their aggro and being on the bigrock doesn't update where they think you are so sniper won't get targeted until they make it around the bigrock and since bigrock has a single choke spawn explosive headshots are way to effective.
I'll admit I fell for Showtime's YT content and even interacted with on a few occasions. I feel so disgusting knowing I actually fell for it a couple of times.
I have an uncle who knows someone in TH-cam, so I will talk to him and tell about this scandal and behaviour, Ayy Lmao, I hope people will see this and help vivziepop
Yeah! I hope so too! These channels, and the people that made them, deserves what’s coming to them, as in getting their channels, and everything else terminated and deleted, for good!
Learning about what these people do actually gave me headaches. I have so much respect for all the talented people in this community, and it just breaks my heart to see them getting exploited like this. The spread of misinformation is also annoying... And I feel terrible for Vivzie. Thanks for making this video.
I had recently watched a few of NTSG's videos, and I always thought that it was strange that he was click baiting, but I had NO idea how big of an issue him and his channel was. Definitely won't be giving him any more of my views🤦🏾♂
Just providing an update here to say that i made a follow up video which you can view here: th-cam.com/video/VqeiLbksP_w/w-d-xo.html
Here is a google drive including all the screenshots and evidence: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uJw7ike7Ciws4kQ8qFDk13rPsgaz_l6k?usp=sharing
But why on earth would they do such a thing? This is really not okay, that face Loona made in the thumbnail says it all.😬
@Ayy_Lmao I'll bully that person if they are stealing content. Your disclaimer won't stop me.
Yep. Time to load my watch them burn in a ball of digital fire and eat some popcorn while I do gun. And then ready the watch nothing at all happen shotgun because nothing will probably be done about it sadly
Doesn't really matter if anyone harasses them or not, because even if someone does begin harassing them they will either ignore it, or try to make that stuff even more to piss off even more fans...
Were you the blue pngtuber furry that talked about the benefits of incest?
Love how youtube becomes insanely blind when channels have valid bannable offenses, but age restricts anyone that says a bad word like a bipolar drunk.
I think you meant "hate"
@@SirToaster9330 hmmm
it's cause it makes youtube money in the grand scheme of things and i hate it so much... they're a company at the end of the day only worrying about their income
@@SirToaster9330 exactly! that is a godly great comparison.that and this show how tactically brain dead TH-cam's guide lines and rules are
Lol and then there’s the fat that Helluva Boss episode 1 isn’t age restricted (even though there is a disclaimer in the video saying the content is 18+) but Every Thing Wrong With episode 1 is age restricted
As a patient fan of Viv, her crew, and her work. It frustrates me to see these channels make these "bold moves" on us. They intentionally put up those thumbnails, and then they say "oh, it's a fan art cleanup". Well I call bullshit and I'm not gonna have it!
She Has ADHD, Dummy!
Agreed. People just trace over whatever story board was made and then call it a fan animation or “not the official scene” it’s weird and highly upsetting.
@@buttonsbox2476 Fanart is ok but not giving the original Artist is wrong i asked viv if it was ok for me to draw her helluva boss she said yes as long as i give her credit viv was really nice but since Ntsg steals art i stopped doing and posting my Fanart of helluva a boss for viv she liked my drawing on insta kind of sad fans can't post art and worry about it getting stolen Ntsg ruined artists and fans art i was watching viv at comic con and she loved other peoples fan art such drawing and cosplaying but now its sad fans wont be able to dress up as there fave charcters or draw them with Ntsg around since he steals art
true that. its art theft and its illegal
@@Ace_not_awake Art theft is one thing there is certain rules to when posting art make sure to read artists insta if it says do not repost or steal dont so if you want to do fanart do it the proper way like i said in my comment above give the artist credit viv loves fan i seen videos of her at comic con likeing peoples fan art of charcters i even asked on live if it was ok i draw her charcters she said its fine but i got do # vivizepop and other stuff like that and its ok but what this guy does is sick
Thank you for uploading this video!
I never realized the NTSG and Greenleen problem was that bad.
Like harassing Viv and her team isn't cool 😕 "and all the other crap that their doing"
Hopefully something can be done.
Yes.
А ЧТО СЛУЧИЛОСЬ? Я ПРОСТО ПЛОХО ЗНАЮ АНГЛИЙСКИЙ, NTSG НОРМАЛЬНЫЙ ПАРЕНЬ, ЧТО-ТО СЛУЧИЛОСЬ???
People who do these things disgust me. Viv is trying her best, why can’t you understand that? Who cares if we have to wait longer, what we need to think about is the creator’s wellbeing. It’s upsetting that people don’t see that.
Your're right, these people are so immature and need to get a grip. Why can't everyone just understand that health is the most important thing, like, it's only a delay we'll eventually get
season two plus Viv said that episode eight wasn't that important to the storyline. As you said these people are disgusting and TH-cam should do something about these people (I'm looking at you ntsg😑)
Nope, they don't wanna see that part. So sad bro
@@MizU-Ki_39-- hm
@@skyesyd221 ?
Hmmmmm
I did wonder why NTSG felt so greasy. I couldn't put my finger on it but it did feel wrong somehow. Good to see my gut was correct.
Hm
“New video/sneak peek” show a screenshot of a tweet then repeat what’s already shown to people publicly or at least was posted in several TH-cam channels
Не трогай ntsg
I gotta love when people get called out but wherever or not something happens is a completely different story.
oh i doubt anything will happen but these dudes have been doing this shit for months so we might as well take a stand against it
@@ayylmaotv Something must be done about this. This is just not okay.😬
@@ayylmaotv Ayyyy LMAO
Or ignore it
I really don’t understand why are people like this? Like it’s okay to be a fan of something but to go and do this shit… its just gross.
Right and that's the problem
Because they’re sick, toxic weirdos, sickos, psychos, or psychopaths, that want attention and clout, probably.
They also take advantage of the fact that Viv and Co. are giving us such beautiful content for free and using that generosity to pounce on her when they don't get their way. It's disgusting.
You dont understand? Well guess you dont know what the entire human population of Earth is like because I do and just have cone to accept it because you can try to take these channels down, more will come and more will avenge them.
Anonymity brings the worst out of everyone. In cases where someone is already a deplorable scumbag, they take full advantage of having little to no irl repercussions.
You know what's sad? NTSG constantly calls out "Western" aggression basically, western youtubers and whatnot, if it's against him it's western. He also supports the war on Ukraine, and he's only driving a wedge deeper between the stereotypical views of Russians by "Western" countries. He's reinforcing these bad stereotypes.
Woah woah, he literally supports the war on Ukraine wtf?! The war that led to many homes lost, forcing its people into refugees, and had to suffer losing family, livelihood, and their own lives, and forced to live in fear and limited supplies to go by because Russia wanted their territory and refused to leave them alone? What the actual hell.
It’s so fucking pathetic how he supports Russia.
I don't understand... I watch his channel. Where he said that? And actually I like some videos he made.
@@temin2776 His comments were mentioned in the video, I don't personally follow him so I was commenting on the statements the video author made. Whether they're entirely factual or not I can't say, but if there is some truth to them it seems like a poor way to view western culture while also reinforcing the stereotype of anti-west Russians.
@@tearainey1 What do you mean? I don't remember him saying anything bad about Western culture.
A creator's mental health and responsibilities come first before anything else. Vivienne is a human being, not some animating robot machine. We need to give her time to work on the show. It's not going to be released immediately. Animation is a tough process, and she is trying her best to keep up entertained during the wait. The least we could do is respect her and give her the time she needs.
I am a betinning animator myself, and therefore know how long hand-animation can take, especially with such complex design. I still think its insane that some people harass viv for "being slow". ANIMATION TAKES FRICKIN TIME, FOLKS.
Thanks for talking about
Greenleen Moxxie, I been posting screenshots of his stolen videos and community posts on Twitter to spread awareness about this guy
You did the right thing
I can’t believe I fell victim to NTSG’s bull crap. I am unsubscribing to them after this video
I’m already trying to spread the word and his comment section
@@Onionair22nd hm
Maybe you can watch his response. Why do you believe one and not believe another?
@@temin2776 because it's obvious that he's a scammer and says homophobic slurs
As an artist myself seeing stuff like this just disgusts me to the core glad that people are speaking out about it including youtube being lazy and not standing by there own guidelines that effects other creators out there aswell
His argument for everything is: You can’t shame me for doing this because other people did that too!
Oh my god finally someone talked about NTSG. I keep getting recommended videos of their trailers but even when I chose the option "not interested," I keep getting recommended with spam trailers with the same footage.
The sad part about it, is that people ended up believing it at first but after the videos become repetitive and pretty much have the same content I'm sure they know it's fake but I guess they just want something to watch and believe in until helluva boss & hazbin hotel come back ... 😞💔 and believe me I used to be one of them but after realizing how the content was pretty much the same thing multiple videos, I did research and found out indeed fake so I instantly unsubscribed and thought it wasn't fair how they leaked her patreon content like that! 😠
I thought NTSG was original. I only followed his community tab because I thought the art there was cool. I didn't know that he steals from other creators. Thank you for making this video, it opened my eyes.
Be real. You know good and well HH or HB will have a villain based off these people. Perhaps it’s already being considered with Mammon, since he’s already a sleazy con artist who ripped of Lu Lu World.
Omg that would be awesome
The South Park style of bad guys. I like it
As for anyone who attacks Vivziepop, Teddy Roosevelt said it best, leaving aside the gendered language of his era: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
Yes!
no one should be attacked but shes definitely not above criticism for how she’s attempted to blacklist independent animators from getting work
Something needs to be done! They can't just steal content like this, Vivziepop is the true creator of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss I mean I know there's a lot of talented people who made comics of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss and they did fantastic, but there's other people who just wants to ruin it all for us.😬😒
thankully Vivzie is aware this kind of stuff happening. I kinda was planning to pull trick on some claiming things official by saying like "How about we ask, VIVZIE?!"
@@MrPhantaze U do have a point there. I mean they can't just make a comic about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss without credited the original creator of the show.
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 yeah
@@thedraftingax5963 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Too bad if you try to take them down, more channels will emerge.
Helluva Boss is like a unicorn; it's an amazingly well done animated series that Vizie put out largely for free on youtube... why anyone would fuck with that (let alone antagonize the creator after being caught ut for being a shit) is just beyond me.
Finally someone making a complaint on someone animating the teaser trailer. That was the most disgusting thing I've seen in the fandom
Wut
The artists who animate the teaser trailer do that FOR FUN
To test how well they can work with one storyboard sequence. They're not doing it to deliberately click bait people. You can shame the art thieves for that. Literally shut the fuck up
First there was that Toytaker weirdo and now these creeps. Vivzie seems to have found her own colorful corner of Hell, possibly more psycho than the infernal locales she animates.
I was so tired of seeing NTSG Live on my feed. I am glad they've been shut down.
I honestly find the fact they also steal art without credit is literally ridiculous
I recently seen the drama continues video regarding viv dealing with toxic fans berating her and harassing her crew. I have had my art of HH stolen in a vivziepop group and fb in the Spanish speaking community when I told them to give me credit for it and even linked my DA to it or I'd report to admins. The admins basically did what NTSG said "its free game" even though I, the artist they took from never gave permission for it. From there I never drew HH art ever again.
Yeah this sucks. I would suggest to give every art you make a watermark so people can see that you are actually original artist
@@krysert4552 yeah no people shouldn't need watermark their stuff if people like this are going around stealing said mark and using it for profit. If no one can respect the artists at all any more than I support them not drawing for said fandoms. Dont sit there and say "watermark it" when there's thieves who know how to remove it with no problem. This fandom is toxic to the creator and artists alike. If viv stops because of the fans. I will not blame her. That little answer of yours dont fix the problem AT ALL
@@ObsidianAngelQuinn umm...I-I'm sorry if I offended you somehow with suggesting watermark.....just tried to help you little since stealing art probably never stops....
These guys seem like the type of people who don't tip their waiters because "it's their job to serve me"
Oh hey that’s me at 1:57, and unfortunately you are correct: I was none the wiser at what was going on at the time. I’m not really involved in the community aside from watching TH-cam videos, so I had assumed they were reuploads from the Helluva Boss Twitter or something, then I learned the ugly truth. :(
Thanks for filling people like me in on the situation and continuing to give these morally bankrupt channels much-needed coverage.
Cool to see someone from a screenshot
@@johnniefinney3266 I always assumed it would never end up happening to me haha.
i keep seeing them. super annoying. sickens me to see people’s hard work being “re-edited” when its blatant stealing
I did not know about channels like ntsg, or all the backlash vivzie was getting, but I’m glad I now know. By putting this video out there, it helps people to not click on these peoples videos, raise more awareness about what they are doing, and getting them to stop harassing an amazing creator who is working her ass off to make free content, seriously wtf. 20/10 :)
5:50 I got copyright claims by them on my Helluva Boss reaction videos and did not know Vivziepop was associated with them until now. Really thought they were false copyright claims, but it is really strange why they are claiming a random section of reactions to the HB episdoes when they could just claim the entire episode
This is why we can't have nice things
John Cena as Alastor would ironically be funny though
Fun fact: july 30th is actually the same day as my birthday so I would like to thank vivziepop for releasing the helluva boss episode on my birthday
Tell me you're 1 without telling me you're 1 👶
Ntsg: "Everyone is doing it"
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I wish someone would fix this problem, Viv has enough problems already.
I feel awful for finding out about all this. Helluva Boss has been a great coping mechanism for me throughout the coronavirus pandemic and has made up for the amount of online hate I got. The show has made me happy. As a loyal supporter of Medrano, I never leaked any content from her Patreon as I don’t have a Patreon account and all I have done was write reviews of the show for my blogs, yet I doubt that any people have read them anyway. I would never steal fanart and profit off it either. People are free to point out if any content I use as research in a list of references is falsely credited, pirated or at risk of copyright issues and I’ll take action. Even though I’m happy that we’re going to see the launch of the second season next month, I think I might slowly start to feel unhappy with being a fan soon. It was bad enough I read a hurtfully offensive tweet against my favourite character and was once aggressively to stop posting about the show. I think my heart is going to break. 💔
Fun fact- if one decides to repost and clain fanart as their own instead of making new art, it's because they are still struggling to draw stick figures with a straight body.
Srsly tho, ntsg needs to get reported. Or atleast see the responces from the artists he steals from. I would love to see his russian rocket bouncin ass respond with fals info when more proof goes to the artist.
Что ты несёшь? Заткнись и не говори ничего плохого об ntsg, раз не знаешь.
Mr Incredible becoming uncanny.. but it's vivziepop moments
Thanks for making this video. I don't think enough people know how bad is all of this and how much harm are doing this channels to the rest of the community and to Vivziepop. It's truly heart-breaking that vivziepop has to deal with all of this bullshit and harrassement... And of course, all artist that have their work stolen, specially if the channels are talking profit out of It!
Pirating something thats already *free* is dispicable!
I like how you used the skeleton meme
The only person I counter was NTSG, since I remember him trying to make excuses for click baiting, it was One of the main reasons I never watched his vid’s. It does make me regret commenting on his community post, since now I know he’s been stealing the art from other artist and not crediting them.😔🐱
I knew there’s something fishy going on that channel thank you so much for bringing this awareness to me
This fake drama is bound to happen at one point. We thank the amazing staff for helping clear this out and be so supportive with viv.
Glad I am not the only one who thought NTSG's content is iffy lmfao
Same
I went onto NTSG's channel and found one of their video titled "I want to make my own animation", and filled that video with Helluva Boss clips. Now there's only one part that showed what they are even making. It'd be funny if someone steal his OCs and if he ever confronts them they could just say, "Everything you upload to internet is free bro"
3:10: Ayye! That's my Twitter username. Thanks for including me in the video bud. Thought I'd spread awareness. 😁
11:21: Again, thank you. I did not expect this.
Well the john cena one aged like milk, Amir Talai sure pulled well done job being our favorite radio Demon
I was super suspicious about ntsg but this is the only confirmation I could find, thank you.
The argument that "oh they're doing it so I can too" is a elementary school argument used by second graders who saw another kid take a cookie from the cookie jar and not get punished, so they assume they can do it as well.
Don't Be a Jerk kids, consequences exist to prevent situations like these from happening all the time.
They still do happen but with consequences they happen less frequently.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk and don't tread on the three-headed bear.
I’m glad someone has finally brought attention to the bullshit behind these channels
To be honest i love Viv animations and i've been watching her work since her animation for Die Young-Ke$ha song, its pain for me as a russian to see people like NTSG, spit on our morals, cultures and support bad stereotypes with the media all together, bringing hate or harm on people who dont deserve this. From adequate russian audience we with you viv.
TH-cam’s moderation has gotten worse of the years to the point that copyright is easy to do here and post NSFW videos as well. This video proves both points and flames that TH-cam moderation needs to be fix. This platform is amazing but the people who do this and make death threats, harass people, and just plain up just don’t care is annoying. TH-cam probably won’t fix this problem until a long time when something “truly big” happens that TH-cam will “need” to fix it. I still love you content and helping us understand what’s going on! Keep up the great work
These people never had a proper mother teaching basics that a child would know what to do and not do.
Thank you for making this, some of these peoples videos has been in my recommendations and while I notice the majority of them as fake I’m annoyed that they keep showing up.
You forgot mine lmao
rocky rakoon my beloved
I was watching ntsgLIVE a bit too. I saw their posts first when they uploaded some new teasers and stuff. I thought he just repost things that were postet on twitter. I didn't know it was that bad until I watched your video. Thanks for telling me, I'll definetely don't watch them ever again.
People like greenleen Moxxie and NTSG are why we can't have nice things.
That art was so good to be “fan-art clean up”
i feel so bad that i might have seen some leeked content. i thought that it was posted by viviziepop and other people were reposting it. i only have insta and youtube so i miss important info because of this and rely on youtubers. i hope she gets better and people stop harassing her
It’s sad to see people are liked this, trying copying the art and trying to call out the original owner that “She can do better” and the worst part about this is Viviziepop is trying to do her best but I guess people is too arrogant and impatient to see it
Thank you for this video. I was honestly subscribed to one of these guys and I've since realized this was clickbait. I'm going around to the "fans" to send them this video.
I honestly blocked all the channels mentioned because I was sick of seeing leaks from Viv's patreon in their thumbnails. I don't WANT spoilers and leaks, but YT kept shoving it in my face because I liked a few theory channel vids. Now I want all those channels and people perma-banned from YT because idc who it is, harassment campaigns are NOT right or justified.
NTSG's videos ended up in my recommended tab. and after realizing his videos are repost after repost. I flat out removed the videos from my recommended tab. I never thought he's a piece of s***. Thanks for letting us know of this.
"Can't be too careful with all those weirdos around" - The Joker, from Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.
That was really good actually. Would be interesting in you doing more of these commentary videos for the HellaHazbin community.
honestly, it's a shame vivzie has people like these doing this to her
bro I hate it when people copy stuff off of other talented creators like Vivziepop😤
didn't know this, but now I do remember that 3rd NTSG channel(kotyan) that keeps popping up in 'recommended' after every episode I'd watch on YT of helluva boss. How deep this rabbit hole goeees
NTSG Be making the clown from dead by daylight sound like a hero.
Ahahaha I swear dude
More toxic than spirit mains
14:53: Ayye! That's also my Reddit account. Again. Happy to Spread awareness. 😁
I do have my own HB discord server tho every roleplay i do there isnt canon and even i still credit and respect viv for everything, and just roleplay to have fun out of boredom, not leak stuff for attention.
I have seen all of these channels pop up on my TH-cam feed but didn't click on them since they were not the official channel. The individuals making fake videos and stealing content from the creators of such a great show is upsetting, not only that but convincing fans to turn on vivziepop herself and destroy the very person everyone even thought of watching content for is just disgusting. Thank you to everyone who defended vivziepop in her time of need. Nothing is worth so much drama these days, there is so much more to life these days hell, working and then finding time on the side yo pursue this? Animation can be such tedious work and the hours upon hours these people have done to make as many of the episodes that already exist is amazing. They all decided to put forth an effort as a team and put it out on this platform for other people to enjoy. So just enjoy it for what it is, demanding more is like a spoiled child throwing a fit over spilled milk.
I’m invested cause greenleen stole my hazbin amps and then he harassed me when it got copy struck
I'm sorry that happened to you.
I'm glad this video is out. I'm not that involved with all the community stuff. I was watching ntsgLIVE assuming he was another animator. Cringe
the far cry intro was fire
*I'm not a fan of NTSG because they are a content farm*
Same and I never will be
What's funny is that I don't think youtube won't do anything based on this whole quantumtv business.
Great use of max0r's vid
I always got so angry whenever a redesign came out and I got recommended one of NTSG's videos claiming they had a sneak peek of the first Hazbin episode. I think there was even one with Charlie where they showed some screenshot edits of her new design trying to pass it off as a sneak peek or Inside of Every Demon is a Rainbow being reanimated with her new design. I always wanted to go on them and comment something telling them to stop but I knew that would just be engagement. And I had commented on and reported some of Greenleen's stuff and I just knew there had to be a lot of people on NTSG's videos not seeing what was wrong with them. It's saddening
i was actually involved in the greenleen discord drama, my boyfriend was a mod on the server but he got banned for no reason at all, and then i looked at the server again and the server had most of the members banned, i wasnt banned for i assume not talking that much in server?? and there was some evidence that greenleen themself might have been grooming some people.
They should ban these guys from TH-cam for showing leaked videos.
Yeah, I mean they already shouldn't be on youtube anymore anyway due to youtube's ban on making more channels if yours gets taken down. These deplorable, morally irreprehensible losers should be IP Banned immediately.
Yes that is messed up to do to harass vivziepop and keep showing leaked footage that is to far.
@@masonaguilar940 agreed, its like constantly biting the hand that feeds you. Like don't these people have anything even slightly meaningful to do with their lives? What lame-os lol
@@cosmicsymbols4225 yeah they’re probably fatherless too lmao
if y'all see the owl in the helluva boss clip where vaggie is talking about alastor...that's stolas dad lol
Ugh, the nerve of some people... Poor Vivs
i just can’t wait for him to start crying
I bet NTSG and Greenleen Moxxie are responsible for falsely reporting Vivziepop's videos.
NTSG is the type of person who would shit on pyro for using the gas passer. But plays demoman.
More like they doxx the pyro then do the sniper exploit on big rock.
@@normalperson2462 theres a sniper exploit?
jesus...
@@normalperson2462 the ate the gun exploit or?
@@Mentelgen-1337 basically the bots run off a navigation mesh for their aggro and being on the bigrock doesn't update where they think you are so sniper won't get targeted until they make it around the bigrock and since bigrock has a single choke spawn explosive headshots are way to effective.
@@normalperson2462 ah well then...
I'll admit I fell for Showtime's YT content and even interacted with on a few occasions. I feel so disgusting knowing I actually fell for it a couple of times.
when i get info from twt or reddit i ALWAYS preface with ALLEGED and RUMORED and SPECULATION
this is actually sad to see, i hope something can be done😞
I have an uncle who knows someone in TH-cam, so I will talk to him and tell about this scandal and behaviour,
Ayy Lmao, I hope people will see this and help vivziepop
Hell yeah! Use those nepotism powers for good lmao. Get them IP Banned 😅
Yeah! I hope so too! These channels, and the people that made them, deserves what’s coming to them, as in getting their channels, and everything else terminated and deleted, for good!
I'm sure you're not lying, but this sounds like such a "my uncle works at Nintendo" moment it's kind of hilarious
“People are falling for this because a lot of the audience is composed of children”
Wait, that’s illegal
Imagine stealing content
your was the first comment
Don't Abuse Vivzie. Please?
Agreed.
Learning about what these people do actually gave me headaches.
I have so much respect for all the talented people in this community, and it just breaks my heart to see them getting exploited like this.
The spread of misinformation is also annoying... And I feel terrible for Vivzie.
Thanks for making this video.
I tried tricking them to become admin so i could delete their server but they caught on
Wait is this one of the reasons why Mrs VPop is getting BULLIED
I had recently watched a few of NTSG's videos, and I always thought that it was strange that he was click baiting, but I had NO idea how big of an issue him and his channel was. Definitely won't be giving him any more of my views🤦🏾♂
Bro SHE HAS TO DO MERCH DROPS FOR EXTRA MONEY TO FUND THE FUCKING AMAZING SHOWS!!!