I just installed my Radion G3's yesterday afternoon and all I can say is WOW. I was running 2 x 2 bulb 48" t5ho with 2 RAPIDLED Onyx fixtures previously and these Radions with the Coral Lab configuration is just amazing. Great video as always
Great to hear your loving it! i LOVE my radions.. :D They are sleek and grow coral! what more could you ask for? hehe. Give my schedule a whirl and let me know how you like it :)
Hey another awesome video reefdude 👍. When you say coral AB+ are you referring to the sps AB+ as I've just copied your preset? I'm running a xr30 g4 pro. Thanks keep up the good work
I have a 215 G (72 X 28 X 24) and have 3 Ecotech G3 Pros that are 7" above the water. In trying to run the Ecotech Coro AB+ and am wondering what the intensity would be for a 28" depth? I know it would be better to use a PAR meter but I don't have access to one as of now. Help me with a suggested intensity. Thanks.
He sure is! they were fine pretty much the next day.. it was really only the first day and the mirror trick and distracting the yellow tang was key to giving him time to settle in.
Question, I have an opportunity to get 2 xr30w g2 for dirt cheap. Are they still a good light? Before ya tell me to get with the program, they would be for a smaller secondary tank. my main has AP700s.
Think of the led sliders like how Much % color you want of that diode /colour and the overall the gas pedal or overall power for the whole puck of lights
Thanks for the info. I was looking at your past posts to see if you had already made this. One more thing, i noticed you have 4 lights, how far apart are they? I am looking at getting 3 XR15 G4 for my 180G (72X24X24). Do you think that would give enough coverage?
With the wide lens on G3 or G4's you would be good each one "can" cover 2' ish so should be able to get away with it :) I can measure mine later for you but my tank is a bit over 66" and i just evenly spaced them.
Everytime I set my presets it seems like they don't go into effect, I'm trying to run with ZERO red and green. But whenever I set it to zero, exit and go back, it's always set high again
Hi Devin can you tell me how wide your tank is? Can you also tell me how wide a tank you would put a xr15 on. Have you ever par metered the edges of the tank
Hey thanks for the schedule man really appreciate it but this schedule doesn't have blue ramping actinics is that okay? All the lights come on at the same time and ramp up
Thanks for the informative video! Just a couple questions. What kind of PAR meter are you using? 2nd, are those readings taken on Radion Gen 4 or Gen 3 versions (I assume they are the Pro's). Lastly, when you take your PAR measurements, do you turn off all of your flow (so the waterline is flat, thereby minimizing light refraction)? Or, do you leave your flow on full-blast when taking your readings? Thanks!
The current lights are G4's , I used a seneye par meter and yes i turn down the flow to limit refraction (makes it easier to get a reading too!) Hopefully that helps!
Thanks a lot! However, in this video, you mention you are using the Gen 3's with the ?"TR3 narrow lenses", so I assume that those PAR readings in the video are for the Gen 3's with the narrow lenses. I also assume that you are now saying that you replaced the Gen 3's with the Gen 4 Pros,. As such, I assume that you are using, by default, the new special lenses equipped only for the Gen 4's, correct? Assuming that this is all correct, what PAR readings are you now getting? I ask this because at 50% total intensity on my Gen 4's on the AB+ setting, I am not getting PARs anywhere near what you are getting. My lights are 9" AWL, and I'm getting between about 110-170 PAR (with Apogee Q-500) about 10" BWL with high flow on. Perhaps the PAR would be higher if the flow were turned off. I will have to try that. Nonetheless, it is my understanding that the new Gen 4 lenses spread out the light (especially with the diffusers on, which I am using) so much, that the overall PAR is reduced. To get PARs anywhere near what you reported, I'd have to turn lights up to about 75-90%. The crazy thing is that I am getting some bleaching of SPS even with my current 50% setting! Thanks!
Ah yes sorry! it was G3 at that time.. I upgraded to G4's shortly after this video. That being said i left the intensity the same at 45% (prior to diffusers) G4 has a more even par spread where the g3 was more intense directly under the light
Thanks for that info! Out of curiosity, would you be willing to run those same PAR readings using your current gen4's (particularly with the diffusers on, if you are using them), so that we can see what the change in PAR numbers is with the new Gen4 lenses. This would be VERYYYYY helpful for us reefers out here (like me) who are somewhat struggling to find the "sweet spot" with these gen 4's. Again, at just 50% intensity on AB+, I am getting some bleaching even though my PAR readings (with diffusers and full flow on) of around 110-170 PAR. I am afraid to go any higher than 50% in order to get PAR readings somewhere near what you were reporting with those G3's in the video, for fear of bleaching/nuking my whole tank (lol!). I'd feel much better if I saw a Pro reefer such as yourself getting similar PAR readings as I am getting with these lights, and yet still seeing growing and colorful SPS. Thanks again!
Im going to say im getting much higher par than that with out issue.. are you sure its bleaching? I could def redo my par map.. im prob due to update it one of these days :) Most car can handle higher par as long as you a climate them them slowly.. In general i shoot for 250-350 par for the sps. Ill add a diffuser/par test to my to do list :)
Can you help me with this?: Is the same output of whites in this 2 examples? Radion G4 Example 1 Blues 100 % Whites 30 % Total Output 60 % Example 2: Blues 100 % Whites 20 % Total Output 70 % Just want a more blue look with the same white level
If you want to know the watts you can hover over that point on the graph in eco-smart live and it will tell you how much power its drawing.. each diode likely has a slightly different par output so its hard to say 100% on that one. But i suspect total output being bumped up 10% will have higher par output If your worried just use the acclimation mode to slowly do it over 2 weeks
Thank you so much Yes and no. I don’t use EcoSmart so I don’t know about total power out put. I just want to know if in the example I maintain the whites PAR?
So Ijust won some g4 on ebay for 205.00 and 225.00 a piece with mount. Just hope its true that he has only used for 10 months. I may keep the mounts and flip, especially If I have to pay for this reeflink or whatever it is. How in the heck do I run these? I dont have an apex! Can I use mobius and would I have to pay? Can you please let me know how to use these? Thanks
Thanks! Kessils look nice and they make it "easy" as you only have a limited amount of "control" which is my main gripe with them.. yes it makes it easier for new reefers but I like the control of being able to fully customize each channel to my liking which i can get out of the radions! Both great lights :)
ReefDudes yes I totally agree there mate you have a lot more play with radions but I love the shimmer and the shape of the kessils they look smart over any tank
what a great bloke. I flew from the uk to meet you in Orlando. Great bloke🎉🎉🎉
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I just installed my Radion G3's yesterday afternoon and all I can say is WOW. I was running 2 x 2 bulb 48" t5ho with 2 RAPIDLED Onyx fixtures previously and these Radions with the Coral Lab configuration is just amazing. Great video as always
Great to hear your loving it! i LOVE my radions.. :D They are sleek and grow coral! what more could you ask for? hehe. Give my schedule a whirl and let me know how you like it :)
Love the par readings. Very Helpful, thank you!
You are most welcome!
Really nice meeting you in Orlando Florida. Thanks for the information on lighting.
Nice meeting you as well!
mate it is a beautiful tank wow. good job.
Yes too much intensity ended up fading away my corals slowly. So the intensity and brightness shown here is spot on.
REEF BOL if you don’t have a par meter always best to start low and slowly raise it (or use the acclimation mode over a long period )
Hey boss love the videos keep them coming great info as always .. what was your acclimate time and % ..? When you setup your schedules sir..
Thanks
Hey Devin where did you get that metal rail for hanging your lights
I really need a PAR meter. Good video, dude!
Thanks Ed! I need one too! you just need to find a friend with one who will let you borrow it once in a while ;)
Great video Devin :) I finally got an radion.
Woooo! thats aweosme! you will love them
ReefDudes if I’m stuck, I’ll be sure to ask you questions :)
Hey another awesome video reefdude 👍. When you say coral AB+ are you referring to the sps AB+ as I've just copied your preset? I'm running a xr30 g4 pro.
Thanks keep up the good work
Stefan Bates yep I took the ab+ and tweaked it. :)
I have a 215 G (72 X 28 X 24) and have 3 Ecotech G3 Pros that are 7" above the water. In trying to run the Ecotech Coro AB+ and am wondering what the intensity would be for a 28" depth? I know it would be better to use a PAR meter but I don't have access to one as of now. Help me with a suggested intensity. Thanks.
I have the xr30w pro gen 3 and only get 44 watts at 45% using this schedule! ReefDudes is getting 88 watt
That may be from multiple fixtures?
As always 🖒, hope the Tang is settled in.
He sure is! they were fine pretty much the next day.. it was really only the first day and the mirror trick and distracting the yellow tang was key to giving him time to settle in.
Question, I have an opportunity to get 2 xr30w g2 for dirt cheap. Are they still a good light? Before ya tell me to get with the program, they would be for a smaller secondary tank. my main has AP700s.
Great video can explain the 45% Brightness and 29% intensity park. I’m kinda confused on those numbers/concepts
Think of the led sliders like how Much % color you want of that diode /colour and the overall the gas pedal or overall power for the whole puck of lights
Thanks for the info. I was looking at your past posts to see if you had already made this. One more thing, i noticed you have 4 lights, how far apart are they? I am looking at getting 3 XR15 G4 for my 180G (72X24X24). Do you think that would give enough coverage?
With the wide lens on G3 or G4's you would be good each one "can" cover 2' ish so should be able to get away with it :) I can measure mine later for you but my tank is a bit over 66" and i just evenly spaced them.
Great video! What made you choose for 5x XR15 instead of 2/3x XR30? Can't decide between 5x XR15 G4 Pro or 3x XR30 G4 Pro for a Reefer 525 XL..
the xr15's gave me the ability to space the pucks more evenly over the tank to make more of a even warm cozy blanket of light to rap the corals in :)
Nice info sharing bud
Thanks Dave!
Everytime I set my presets it seems like they don't go into effect, I'm trying to run with ZERO red and green. But whenever I set it to zero, exit and go back, it's always set high again
Click save setting when exiting if it does not work try checking reef2reef.
hello can you advise me for a lighting program with mobius I have a mixed tank I have two radions g5xr30 on a red sea 450 thank you
Try running my schedule on it
Hi Devin can you tell me how wide your tank is? Can you also tell me how wide a tank you would put a xr15 on. Have you ever par metered the edges of the tank
25 wide. Xr15 do 2’x2’ ish. Yes I have par tested I usually tune the lights for 100-120 par at the sandbed
What is the point having that middle dot between the ramp up and ramp down. I have loaded it on mine and it has nothing different ??
Thanks
MAy have just been a point I added at some point in time. So likely leftover and no purpose
Where did you get the mount set up for the leds!?!? I have been looking for something exactly like that for months.
I have some a few videos on how I made it and a newer one. Swath for floating light mount on my channel
nice et up and nice tank but what are ur dimensions on ur tank
Thanks, 20Wide 18 tall, 5.5-6' long
Hey thanks for the schedule man really appreciate it but this schedule doesn't have blue ramping actinics is that okay? All the lights come on at the same time and ramp up
Rhys Mann it has a good hour plus of ramping up and down
Correct but all the lights come on at 10am very dim then starts to go more blue then goes to coral ab+ im used to the blues being 1st
@@rhysmann11 It should be blues then slowly ramp up to AB+ schedule. you can always just pull down the whites if you have it in your ramp up some how.
can you help me set the time and color. i don't know .i use 3 radion xr30 g2
Thanks!!
Hey did you ever get that website up and running?
Still lots to do but its in the works! Feel free to stat playing with it and give feedback www.reeftuber.com/index.php
Can the Ecotech Radion Gen 4 be controlled by APEX?
Thanks for the informative video! Just a couple questions. What kind of PAR meter are you using? 2nd, are those readings taken on Radion Gen 4 or Gen 3 versions (I assume they are the Pro's). Lastly, when you take your PAR measurements, do you turn off all of your flow (so the waterline is flat, thereby minimizing light refraction)? Or, do you leave your flow on full-blast when taking your readings? Thanks!
The current lights are G4's , I used a seneye par meter and yes i turn down the flow to limit refraction (makes it easier to get a reading too!) Hopefully that helps!
Thanks a lot! However, in this video, you mention you are using the Gen 3's with the ?"TR3 narrow lenses", so I assume that those PAR readings in the video are for the Gen 3's with the narrow lenses. I also assume that you are now saying that you replaced the Gen 3's with the Gen 4 Pros,. As such, I assume that you are using, by default, the new special lenses equipped only for the Gen 4's, correct? Assuming that this is all correct, what PAR readings are you now getting? I ask this because at 50% total intensity on my Gen 4's on the AB+ setting, I am not getting PARs anywhere near what you are getting. My lights are 9" AWL, and I'm getting between about 110-170 PAR (with Apogee Q-500) about 10" BWL with high flow on. Perhaps the PAR would be higher if the flow were turned off. I will have to try that. Nonetheless, it is my understanding that the new Gen 4 lenses spread out the light (especially with the diffusers on, which I am using) so much, that the overall PAR is reduced. To get PARs anywhere near what you reported, I'd have to turn lights up to about 75-90%. The crazy thing is that I am getting some bleaching of SPS even with my current 50% setting! Thanks!
Ah yes sorry! it was G3 at that time.. I upgraded to G4's shortly after this video. That being said i left the intensity the same at 45% (prior to diffusers) G4 has a more even par spread where the g3 was more intense directly under the light
Thanks for that info! Out of curiosity, would you be willing to run those same PAR readings using your current gen4's (particularly with the diffusers on, if you are using them), so that we can see what the change in PAR numbers is with the new Gen4 lenses. This would be VERYYYYY helpful for us reefers out here (like me) who are somewhat struggling to find the "sweet spot" with these gen 4's. Again, at just 50% intensity on AB+, I am getting some bleaching even though my PAR readings (with diffusers and full flow on) of around 110-170 PAR. I am afraid to go any higher than 50% in order to get PAR readings somewhere near what you were reporting with those G3's in the video, for fear of bleaching/nuking my whole tank (lol!). I'd feel much better if I saw a Pro reefer such as yourself getting similar PAR readings as I am getting with these lights, and yet still seeing growing and colorful SPS. Thanks again!
Im going to say im getting much higher par than that with out issue.. are you sure its bleaching?
I could def redo my par map.. im prob due to update it one of these days :) Most car can handle higher par as long as you a climate them them slowly.. In general i shoot for 250-350 par for the sps. Ill add a diffuser/par test to my to do list :)
great your video, you could leave your schedule to download so it's easier for those who want to use
reefdudes.com/equipment/ecotech-radion-light-schdule.html
How deep is your tank sorry I might have missed it if you said it in the video?
18" Deep
Thank you...
It looks like you have another setting at around 2pm. What is that setting at?
I think it just created a point where i clicked. It stays consistent at the peak from 12-6:30
ReefDudes 👍
Thanks Frank!
Can you help me with this?:
Is the same output of whites in this 2 examples? Radion G4
Example 1
Blues 100 %
Whites 30 %
Total Output 60 %
Example 2:
Blues 100 %
Whites 20 %
Total Output 70 %
Just want a more blue look with the same white level
If you want to know the watts you can hover over that point on the graph in eco-smart live and it will tell you how much power its drawing.. each diode likely has a slightly different par output so its hard to say 100% on that one. But i suspect total output being bumped up 10% will have higher par output If your worried just use the acclimation mode to slowly do it over 2 weeks
Thank you so much
Yes and no.
I don’t use EcoSmart so I don’t know about total power out put.
I just want to know if in the example I maintain the whites PAR?
So Ijust won some g4 on ebay for 205.00 and 225.00 a piece with mount. Just hope its true that he has only used for 10 months. I may keep the mounts and flip, especially If I have to pay for this reeflink or whatever it is. How in the heck do I run these? I dont have an apex! Can I use mobius and would I have to pay? Can you please let me know how to use these? Thanks
Mobius is free. I believe they are opening it up to them in the near future
Is there a group like maybe FB where ppl share there lighting schedules / files
Are you in my group?
I wanted radions when I first started but I think there abit overrated 🙈 I'm wanting a kessil now but your tanks looking fantastic as always dev😊
Thanks! Kessils look nice and they make it "easy" as you only have a limited amount of "control" which is my main gripe with them.. yes it makes it easier for new reefers but I like the control of being able to fully customize each channel to my liking which i can get out of the radions! Both great lights :)
ReefDudes yes I totally agree there mate you have a lot more play with radions but I love the shimmer and the shape of the kessils they look smart over any tank
How do I down load your schedule
There is a post with the link to the schedule on reefdudes.com
Do you have a AI version? Your version will not download with your file extension
Trying set up my radion gen 4 pro having troubles can u help no reef link but have an apex
I remember it being a bit of a pain to attach them to the apex.. make sure you update the firmware on everything first.
Ok can I dm u tomorrow afternoon for help wasn’t expected a quick response like this lol 😆?
Why do you have anime music in the background?
I don't really watch anime so cant say if it is.. but its a good tune!
good light, horrible software.