I never noticed the color shift and polarization thing until you pointed it out, then I tried it on my VND's by Moment and I was blown away by the polarization. I never knew by simply turning the filter it would change the polarization. If I knew this before I never would've bought a CPL filter lol. Thanks so much for pointing that out, looks like I'm going to get Freewell filters!
Thank you for this 🤗 had the same problem with the Polarpro lock system… even with the caps that didn‘t lock 😞 sent it back and went with the Nisi. Hope they work well 🤞
Thought I would add to this comment because I also experienced one defective locking mechanism on my first order of Helix MagLock filters from Polarpro. For me, the problem lens was my VND 2-5. Just like Dustin mentions in this video, when I would be switching between stops, it would cause the filter body to rotate as well and slip right past the point it was locked in without ever pressing in the tabs to actually unlock it. That being said, the PolarPro customer service was absolutely amazing to deal with. Upon verification of the issue, they sent out a replacement filter with zero hassle. All I can say is the fact that their filters have a lifetime warranty and they stand behind their product 100%, this is almost more important to me today than seeking out the absolute perfect system. I think filter brands will always all have their own strengths and weaknesses. We all just need to find what system works best for our own needs. I have never owned any of the other brands covered in this video, but hopefully they also have amazing customer support and rock solid warranties!
so frustrating. I just want to know what the best variable nd filter is to buy! I dont know how many videos Ive watched now!! this is so frustrating, im putting my new camera in the bin in a minute. I wish people would stop sitting on the fence and call a bad filter bad and a good filter good!
Love the idea of magnetic - the amount of times I've over screwed my step up ring on too tight and then have to struggle getting it off... might need to look at this system.... once I decide whether or not to pull the trigger on the NiSi Athena set :) Solid video mate..
I'm a big fan of the magnetics cause I totally agree. Oh I have a set of Athena's that I'll have a video coming out hopefully by the end of the month if you have the time to wait....😂
Its a big purchase no doubt! I film home cinema tours so I need tight wide open lenses and I only have the kit lens on my s5iix but I have so many primes for my G9 so I still barely use my S5iix as I cant get the image looking as nice as my G9 with my f1.4 primes! I don't know if I can buy through your link as NiSi have local distribution here in Australia but I will no doubt watch you video regardless. Interested to see what you can make with it - i plan on doing something special if/when I get them!@@DustinArmstrongPro
Thanks for your helpful video. I've been thinking about getting the Freewell V2, but I've heard that one of the problems with it is that there is no lens hood that fits. Is this true? If it is, what can you use instead?
Remove the glass from a cheap polarizer filter and place the rotating ring between your lens and VND. You can now rotate the entire filter for the best color balance, but this might increase vignetting.
Great video. I cannot fathom paying the price of the PolarPros. I ended up going with the Freewell as it's consistently touted as being good... and not just good for the price, but actually relatively good in general
What gets me is where is a lens hood option? If you has the sun angled to fhe side of the filter you'll likely get flaring. Is there any lens hoof that actually fits? I wonder if the KASE magnetic 92mm with 82mm step down fits?
nice review. Still hesitate for a7rv between M2 and V2. isn't it a problem to have a cpl always active (cross polarization, 1stop loss,...) ? can we desactivate cpl to make it invisible ?
very nice video and new subscriber! what lense did you use for the « product shot » on this video. footage of the freewel « bag » is unbelievably good 😍
good video ...i bought the freewell v2 kit with a 77 t0 82 magnetic adaptor ..... the problem is the magnet not strong enough to keep lemse on camera.....i was curious did you have the same problem and if sio any advise to keep the magnetic filter on my camera... any advice to solve the problem ...thanks
@@DustinArmstrongPro gotcha. I have the K2 Freewell kit and the screw on mine is to rotate the streak filter because it is a drop in filter behind the VND, but that makes sense! Thanks for the video
@@ArtAlchemyChannel I thought this was the case but I got the Nisi and it’s not stackable on the outside. It’s only compatible with Nisi filters in the true color set. I emailed and asked why my 82mm mist filter didn’t fit and they told me I’d have to put the mist filter first and then put the Nisi on top.
@daniellerender I believe it. You also have to consider corse vs fine thread, proprietary thread type ect... Filters would stack easily in a perfect world. I'm currently considering buying the PM Polar Pro cause they stack. But they're pricy.
The Kase magnetic VND should be probably in that comparison. That’s the system I use (not the VND) and I find it very good for a reasonable price. These PolarPro filters are definitely way overpriced. No way I put this kind of amount in a filter.
But the farewell allows you to remove the VND and keep the polarizer or add as mist without the VND.. my issue is my lens is 58mm and 82mm look comically large
S5II. My mic was too high in the shot and for some reason it kept focusing on it. Most the time it's pretty flawless, but they could definitely still make some improvements when it's pretty obvious there only 1 human and should focus on me 😂
I'd love a follow up on color shift or reproduction. Your previous video indicated that the NISI was " true color". I've seen reviews that the Freewell filters are warmer (may or may not like). Wondering if there was a color shirt with the Freewell system?
‘True Color’ is a coating technology from a Japanese company. Only Nisi and Freewell have bought the technology so far, but Freewell is not as good as Nisi in terms of color shift and vignetting control.
What’s Up Dustin, Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are: Sony E16=55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4.. Thank You…What’s Up Pat, Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are: Sony E16-55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4.. Thank You…
@@DustinArmstrongProi was surprised to see the color shift all Nd filters introduce not get hugely featured in this comparison. There was like asingle comparison in that regard
@@iComplainer the color shift to me is honestly not extremely important. Color is easy to adjust. However, I'd prefer an ND with the most natural color compared to with no ND. The polarization shift when changing between lenses I think is a bigger thing to consider because that is extremely hard to fix in post. I would say they all are honestly pretty decent color wise besides the EVO Flow and the PolarPro when it's not in a good spot on the thread. It looks great when it is though
Absolutely agree about the polarization thing (and it’s the reason I now only use solid NDs as it’s a thing all VNDs deal with to some degree). However, I did want to ask which VND do you think was the most color accurate (compared to no ND at all)?
What! How can you justify the cost of 2 NDPL filters up to $800? I've spent too much money over 3 decades on filters in my career... but this is outrageous. Maybe I'm out-of-touch with what people are making these days, but I'd rather put this much cash towards another lens , a trip to Iceland, or somewhere else and keep screwing in my filters without taking up extra room and still use my lens covers.
$650-800 for filters is ridiculous. Freewell all day. This video convinced me to buy the set. Thanks!
I still enjoy the freewell. Even thinking about selling the polarpros cause I don't use them lol
@@DustinArmstrongProdid I just buy those from you haha?
How are you linking them?
Take off Peter McKinnon name off the filter it becomes 150 dollar filter.
It’s simple to unscrew? I’ve risked to broke my 2470 Lumix for a kf filter non magnetic
I never noticed the color shift and polarization thing until you pointed it out, then I tried it on my VND's by Moment and I was blown away by the polarization. I never knew by simply turning the filter it would change the polarization. If I knew this before I never would've bought a CPL filter lol. Thanks so much for pointing that out, looks like I'm going to get Freewell filters!
Polar pro has its advantages but they're pricey
Thank you for this 🤗 had the same problem with the Polarpro lock system… even with the caps that didn‘t lock 😞 sent it back and went with the Nisi. Hope they work well 🤞
Thought I would add to this comment because I also experienced one defective locking mechanism on my first order of Helix MagLock filters from Polarpro. For me, the problem lens was my VND 2-5. Just like Dustin mentions in this video, when I would be switching between stops, it would cause the filter body to rotate as well and slip right past the point it was locked in without ever pressing in the tabs to actually unlock it.
That being said, the PolarPro customer service was absolutely amazing to deal with. Upon verification of the issue, they sent out a replacement filter with zero hassle. All I can say is the fact that their filters have a lifetime warranty and they stand behind their product 100%, this is almost more important to me today than seeking out the absolute perfect system.
I think filter brands will always all have their own strengths and weaknesses. We all just need to find what system works best for our own needs. I have never owned any of the other brands covered in this video, but hopefully they also have amazing customer support and rock solid warranties!
The color shift part was so so helpful. Thank you!
so frustrating. I just want to know what the best variable nd filter is to buy! I dont know how many videos Ive watched now!! this is so frustrating, im putting my new camera in the bin in a minute. I wish people would stop sitting on the fence and call a bad filter bad and a good filter good!
I’ve realized that all camera TH-camrs are pure scum who always have some hidden agenda and never say anything truthful and reliable. So frustrating.
Nisi true colour by an absolute mile
Yes exactly. They be getting paid and they don’t want to tell us the truth. Wasting our time watching go through their content
Buy a C70 dude.
i know how you feel
Love the idea of magnetic - the amount of times I've over screwed my step up ring on too tight and then have to struggle getting it off... might need to look at this system.... once I decide whether or not to pull the trigger on the NiSi Athena set :) Solid video mate..
I'm a big fan of the magnetics cause I totally agree.
Oh I have a set of Athena's that I'll have a video coming out hopefully by the end of the month if you have the time to wait....😂
Its a big purchase no doubt! I film home cinema tours so I need tight wide open lenses and I only have the kit lens on my s5iix but I have so many primes for my G9 so I still barely use my S5iix as I cant get the image looking as nice as my G9 with my f1.4 primes! I don't know if I can buy through your link as NiSi have local distribution here in Australia but I will no doubt watch you video regardless. Interested to see what you can make with it - i plan on doing something special if/when I get them!@@DustinArmstrongPro
Thanks for your helpful video. I've been thinking about getting the Freewell V2, but I've heard that one of the problems with it is that there is no lens hood that fits. Is this true? If it is, what can you use instead?
Remove the glass from a cheap polarizer filter and place the rotating ring between your lens and VND. You can now rotate the entire filter for the best color balance, but this might increase vignetting.
Great video. I cannot fathom paying the price of the PolarPros. I ended up going with the Freewell as it's consistently touted as being good... and not just good for the price, but actually relatively good in general
How is it?
The Amazon affiliate link for the Freewell V2 goes to the Freewell M2 page instead
Nice catch. I'll fix it
Freewells are so good. Great job!
I agree I'm a fan
What gets me is where is a lens hood option? If you has the sun angled to fhe side of the filter you'll likely get flaring. Is there any lens hoof that actually fits? I wonder if the KASE magnetic 92mm with 82mm step down fits?
nice review. Still hesitate for a7rv between M2 and V2. isn't it a problem to have a cpl always active (cross polarization, 1stop loss,...) ? can we desactivate cpl to make it invisible ?
But the M2’s are hard stopped ND’s which is perfect for photographers not videographers
I have the V1 freewell for 77mm I think I’ll just stick with what I know and get the free well V2
Hi Dustin, thanks a lot. Have you ever experienced a VND hindering the autofocus to be precise and snappy?
I haven't. But if you're using a mist filter it can affect AF
Thanks for answering!
Thanks for the vid ! Is the kit usable once bought or do I need to buy an adaptor or something else ?
I believe it comes with everything but you may have to buy adapter rings that go on the front of your lens
Alright mate, thanks for your answer !@@DustinArmstrongPro
very nice video and new subscriber! what lense did you use for the « product shot » on this video. footage of the freewel « bag » is unbelievably good 😍
So do you need a nd filter indoors or at darker areas as well for motion blur?
compare stabilization s1h vs s5II
Great review, can you use the cpl on the freewell magnet adaptor without the VND being on as well?
good video ...i bought the freewell v2 kit with a 77 t0 82 magnetic adaptor ..... the problem is the magnet not strong enough to keep lemse on camera.....i was curious did you have the same problem and if sio any advise to keep the magnetic filter on my camera... any advice to solve the problem ...thanks
I wanna get the Canon R50, does the V2 work well on that one?
If my lens is alr 82mm thread would I still need the step? Would I have to worry about vignetting?
I use Nuances VNDs wish you did review on them
Soooo.. We're staying Switzerland on the subject?
Very helpful. Thank you
Isn’t that screw on the Freewell filter to just level out the streak filters?
No it's meant to change the polarization. You can just spin the streak filter anyways because it's magnetic
@@DustinArmstrongPro gotcha. I have the K2 Freewell kit and the screw on mine is to rotate the streak filter because it is a drop in filter behind the VND, but that makes sense! Thanks for the video
Can I stack my tiffen mist filter on top of the freewell v2?
you can stack anything with the same thread size.
@@ArtAlchemyChannel I thought this was the case but I got the Nisi and it’s not stackable on the outside. It’s only compatible with Nisi filters in the true color set. I emailed and asked why my 82mm mist filter didn’t fit and they told me I’d have to put the mist filter first and then put the Nisi on top.
@daniellerender I believe it. You also have to consider corse vs fine thread, proprietary thread type ect... Filters would stack easily in a perfect world. I'm currently considering buying the PM Polar Pro cause they stack. But they're pricy.
If you're using a 7-9 stop frequently you might also need a new pair of eyes.
My Only gripe with freewell is the glow mist is too vintage looking
Do you have the 1/4 or 1/8?
The Kase magnetic VND should be probably in that comparison. That’s the system I use (not the VND) and I find it very good for a reasonable price. These PolarPro filters are definitely way overpriced. No way I put this kind of amount in a filter.
i want that Lumix jacket lol
It's nice ngl
Have You tried anything from KF Concept?
I haven't
They start as at 3 stops down. That’s too much as a run & gun vlogger who going in & out of indoor areas a lot.
But the farewell allows you to remove the VND and keep the polarizer or add as mist without the VND.. my issue is my lens is 58mm and 82mm look comically large
@@sparkestudio i think it is cpl and vnd all together. You have to detach the whole thing magnetically
Dat Panny Boy autofocus...
This wasn't filmed on an S5 ii was it?
But very helpful video!
S5II. My mic was too high in the shot and for some reason it kept focusing on it. Most the time it's pretty flawless, but they could definitely still make some improvements when it's pretty obvious there only 1 human and should focus on me 😂
Are there no magnetic ND filters that are solid NDs, and not variable? Id rather have that
There definitely could be. I haven't used everything
Pretty sure freewell does this
Kase does this.
I'd love a follow up on color shift or reproduction. Your previous video indicated that the NISI was " true color". I've seen reviews that the Freewell filters are warmer (may or may not like). Wondering if there was a color shirt with the Freewell system?
‘True Color’ is a coating technology from a Japanese company. Only Nisi and Freewell have bought the technology so far, but Freewell is not as good as Nisi in terms of color shift and vignetting control.
@@zm174-c1s Challenge accepted let anyone do the scientific test to prove other brand perform better than us.
@@FreewellGear from what I've seen Nisi has pretty much zero colour shift. I do like the inbuilt cpl you guys offer though
@@andrejcupac7359, we will be no different. add CPL on there & then have the actual comparison.
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What’s Up Dustin,
Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are:
Sony E16=55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4..
Thank You…What’s Up Pat,
Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are:
Sony E16-55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4..
Thank You…
Becore even watching im going to guess/proclaim that the nisi wins.
That's a bold claim
@@DustinArmstrongProi was surprised to see the color shift all Nd filters introduce not get hugely featured in this comparison. There was like asingle comparison in that regard
@@iComplainer the color shift to me is honestly not extremely important. Color is easy to adjust. However, I'd prefer an ND with the most natural color compared to with no ND. The polarization shift when changing between lenses I think is a bigger thing to consider because that is extremely hard to fix in post. I would say they all are honestly pretty decent color wise besides the EVO Flow and the PolarPro when it's not in a good spot on the thread. It looks great when it is though
Absolutely agree about the polarization thing (and it’s the reason I now only use solid NDs as it’s a thing all VNDs deal with to some degree).
However, I did want to ask which VND do you think was the most color accurate (compared to no ND at all)?
@@DustinArmstrongPro Does any of them change polarization on different nd stops?
What! How can you justify the cost of 2 NDPL filters up to $800? I've spent too much money over 3 decades on filters in my career... but this is outrageous. Maybe I'm out-of-touch with what people are making these days, but I'd rather put this much cash towards another lens , a trip to Iceland, or somewhere else and keep screwing in my filters without taking up extra room and still use my lens covers.