NFC West QB Rankings ft. Phil and Matt Simms

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  • Matt and Phil Simms power ranked NFC North quarterbacks. They analyzed Matthew Stafford, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, Brock Purdy, and more. They give insights into the impact the offensive coordinators can have on the NFC West QBs.
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  • @24X7CARZ
    @24X7CARZ 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Yes, barring injury this is going to be a special year for the Rams offense.

    • @user-fc3ki3gb7u
      @user-fc3ki3gb7u 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Horns Up!!!!@ LA Rams 🐏

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Health is every teams enemy during the season. I think the Rams might be SB contenders.

  • @HotwingLouie
    @HotwingLouie 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Mathew Stafford is this generations John Elway he's that DAMN GOOD!

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's good, but he's NO JOHN ELWAY,

    • @HotwingLouie
      @HotwingLouie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bl6ne3hc6n including myself 14 ppl would disagree but I understand it’s you’re POV so who would you place to compare Stafford to?

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @HotwingLouie well Elway whent to 5 SB, wins 2 and in the HOF, ,are you comparing his tuffness?? Cause your spot on there, I would compare him to Drew Brees, ,

    • @alexsolo4085
      @alexsolo4085 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lol, he’s good not great.

    • @HotwingLouie
      @HotwingLouie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bl6ne3hc6n that’s a great comparison but I feel John elway due to toughness not record but if it was record then definitely drew brees would make sense

  • @dmbgator86
    @dmbgator86 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Stafford
    The rest of the list

  • @caynine29
    @caynine29 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Not sure why this is so controversial. Yes... Brock Purdy is a good QB. But Stafford is OBVIOUSLY the best in the division. And it's not even close. 🤷🏾‍♂️
    Drop Stafford on that 49ers roster and they win AT MINIMUM the last two Super Bowls. Maybe 3.

    • @christopherbooker796
      @christopherbooker796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So you’re saying Matt Stafford didn’t have a stack roster with the Rams? His prime years was in Detroit and the Rams caught him just in time to squeeze a superbowl out of him. He’s washed currently

    • @Tdog290
      @Tdog290 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ⁠​⁠@@christopherbooker796he is not even close to washed he’s miles ahead of every other qb in this division, CURRENTLY!

    • @caynine29
      @caynine29 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @christopherbooker796 ... No, I'm not saying that at all. The '21 Rams were a great team and Stafford won a Super Bowl with them. What I'm saying is, both 49ers rosters Purdy played on were unquestionably better. The key is, Stafford was/is a difference maker... Brock Purdy is not. Jimmy Garoppolo had that same team on a Super Bowl trajectory before injury opened the door for Purdy... and he didn't even have the best RB in football doing the heavy lifting.
      As far as Stafford's "prime" years being in Detroit. Well, obviously that's true. He played there 12 seasons. But 2021 with the Rams was statistically the best season of his career. And he was one of the best QBs in the league LAST year. So calling him "washed currently" is... respectfully... kinda stupid. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @christopherbooker796
      @christopherbooker796 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@caynine29 I see regression and I’m sure it’s due to injuries. His best years are behind him. He’s not carrying the rams with his arm either. He has good young players at the skill positions and a good offensive minded coach as well. We’ve seen plenty of qb’s get older and need more help. Not downplaying him, definitely one of the best arms I’ve seen in football. Father Time is just undefeated

    • @caynine29
      @caynine29 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @christopherbooker796 ... And that's the problem we're running into here. There has been literally no "regression" to see whatsoever. Again... 2021 was literally his best season as a pro... and last season he was easily a top 5 QB and played absolutely lights out.
      So, with that all being fact, it begs the question, exactly what sport have you been watching the last 3 years? Because it certainly doesn't seem like it's football. I mean... simply saying "I see regression" is pretty meaningless if you can't produce a single shred of evidence to support that claim. Especially when the facts of the argument say the complete opposite. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @edwinrampage39
    @edwinrampage39 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Go Rams 😁

    • @user-fc3ki3gb7u
      @user-fc3ki3gb7u 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      HORNS UP LA RAMS 🐏

    • @peterfraumeni5582
      @peterfraumeni5582 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go straight to the bottom of the standings?

  • @dankearney8636
    @dankearney8636 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I’m so glad to hear Phil say…”Every game MS makes throws no one else in the league could make” because as a Rams fan…I’ve been seeing it and saying it since he joined the Rams. I wish I watched him more and appreciated him more when he was a lion

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So many fans missed out on Stafford while he was a Lion. Coaching is important. Stafford has more momentum going for him to close out his career than Aaron Rodgers in a lot of ways.

  • @Longimanus1323
    @Longimanus1323 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    1. Stafford
    2. Kyler
    3. Purdy
    4. Geno

    • @peterfraumeni5582
      @peterfraumeni5582 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hahahaha…..that’s funny

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@peterfraumeni5582 agree

    • @alejandrocortes7110
      @alejandrocortes7110 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ooof

    • @STR8L8CED
      @STR8L8CED วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a Seahawks fan I agree on Geno's spot.

  • @caynine29
    @caynine29 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Kurt Warner is really a poor comparison to make for Brock Purdy. Yes, both were dropped onto great teams. But Warner's numbers were MUCH better. And Warner actually WON games with his arm on the regular, throwing over 200 MORE passes than Purdy in their first two seasons respectively. The 49ers success is BY FAR more predicated on how well McCaffrey, Deebo and their run first, run often offense plays, than Purdy.
    Warner's first two seasons were head and shoulders better than Purdy's.
    Oh and he actually also won a Lombardi for good measure.

    • @TheCountofToulouse
      @TheCountofToulouse 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, good point. Warner was NFL Europe's MVP and he was a champion in the arena league, too. When he got to the NFL he said it was 'slow' by comparison. Martz was HARD on Kurt because he'd NEVER heard of him and he needed to see if Kurt could handle NFL pressure. When Kurt took the field, he was ready...as we ALL saw. Legend.

    • @redboylegend1262
      @redboylegend1262 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Don’t forget he took a cardinals team who wasn’t expected to be in the playoffs to the superbowl after he got traded from the rams

    • @TheCountofToulouse
      @TheCountofToulouse 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@redboylegend1262
      Warner went the Giants after the Rams. The Giants released him and he was picked up by Arizona as a backup to Leinart.

    • @jeffreylytle1563
      @jeffreylytle1563 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I take Kurt over Stafford every time... Kurt just had the "It factor"...

    • @caynine29
      @caynine29 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jeffreylytle1563 ... Warner was fantastic, no doubt. But if I'm being honest... I'd take Stafford.
      Can't really go wrong with either though. 👍🏾

  • @jeffarchuleta4393
    @jeffarchuleta4393 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Stafford! It's not even close.

  • @Oldmanriding222
    @Oldmanriding222 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In my opinion after Mahomes and maybe Josh Allen, I would take Stafford over any of these quarterbacks in the league. His toughness is unmatched and his arm ability is tremendous.
    He is one of those quarterbacks that could have played in the 80s when quarterbacks were taking tremendous hits and playing through them .
    Nowadays, you can’t touch these quarterbacks. Back then the entire body was open to hitting quarterbacks.
    In Stafford is a true pocket passer, which is the definition of a passer not like a lot of these quarterbacks nowadays that earn their bread and butter by running.
    Example Lamar Jackson, you can keep him. I will take Stafford any day of the week over him.
    We brag every year about how Lamar Jackson is and he can’t even win playoff game!
    And I have to mention Phil Simms, this guy would’ve been a top five quarterback nowadays.
    Talk about a tough guy that hung in the pocket to make a big-time throw, that was Simms.

  • @fatherof3792
    @fatherof3792 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Rams had the best record in the Nfl last 8 games and almost beat Detroit and Baltimore. Upgrade at line, kupp will have a bounce back year, Stafford is heathly too. The back q.b is as good as the other q.b's in the division! C'mon stop with the B.s! Rams wining the division and going deep into playoffs, maybe all the way!!!

  • @SamMullerSMMA
    @SamMullerSMMA 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Murray is definitely better than Geno

    • @elandorstyles4706
      @elandorstyles4706 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shhh 🤫 let them keep underestimating him

    • @Tdog290
      @Tdog290 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He definitely is, I hate when people rank in the most delusional ways. As a rams fan it pisses me off when people put Kyler Murray below Geno or Purdy. But at least Stafford is rightfully ranked, Go Rams!

    • @glow4417
      @glow4417 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      More elite traits, but has not shown to be better from the pocket than Geno -- and that is the problem with Murray.

    • @garymoore3384
      @garymoore3384 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Tdog290 ------ the last 2 years Geno had played better than Muarry. Without his scrambling skills Muarry would be straight ass. As a RAMS fan Geno has played better games against us than Kyler Muarry has.

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe talent wise. If i had to pick someone to lead my team. Geno all day. I still have hope for Kyler, his talent alone has gotten him pretty far but to be a legit contender and competitor in this league he needs to become a leader for that franchise.

  • @tonebrown2961
    @tonebrown2961 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Niner's fan, I agree with the list and why. Stafford has always been a great QB. Sometimes better than the people he had to throw it to. One season, he was stuck just throwing it to Cupp until he got injured. Stafford has more experience than anybody on this list, so yeah, he should be #1 in the NFC. It will be really exciting this season when these teams have to go at it.

  • @jameshernandez6168
    @jameshernandez6168 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    kyler murray doesnt have Aaron Donald to worry about anymore.

  • @ajhill251117
    @ajhill251117 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Brock Purdy is NOT equivalent to Kurt Warner in anyway on the field. Hard STOP!!!

    • @peterfraumeni5582
      @peterfraumeni5582 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know, Purdy is better at this point, check the metrics.

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you put them side by side when they started. And how people initially perceived them as a whole. they are more similar than you might think.

  • @imma1287
    @imma1287 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Geno isn’t 4. 🤦‍♀️

  • @tonygalindo8656
    @tonygalindo8656 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The Rams will win The Superbowl This year

    • @user-fc3ki3gb7u
      @user-fc3ki3gb7u 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Absolutely 💯 Horns Up !!!

    • @peterfraumeni5582
      @peterfraumeni5582 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wait….is that crack you’re smoking?

  • @carlossanchez-uq6sd
    @carlossanchez-uq6sd วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rams making Superbowl run! Watch out!

  • @JLM001
    @JLM001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    49ers offensive throws behind and around the line of scrimmage a lot. Leads to a better completion percentage.

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is that a knock on Purdy for executing the offense?

    • @JLM001
      @JLM001 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like I said, misleading completion percentage. D. Green; if you want to crown him. Then crown him. Over throws receivers and balls come up short. Watch type with honest eyes. Defense saved and or won games for them last year.

  • @Oddball-57
    @Oddball-57 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Not a Geno fan but the back half of this list is just delusional Turdy is obviously the 4th best in the division 1. Stafford 2. Kyler 3. Geno and Turdy is dead Last!!!

    • @blb4356
      @blb4356 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WRONG

    • @Oddball-57
      @Oddball-57 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂 so you are a delusional 9ers supporter and believe Turdy is better than any of those guys right? Just 😂 hilarious how in denial that fan base is

    • @blb4356
      @blb4356 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Oddball-57 How many playoff games has Stafford, Kyler and Geno won as QB versus BP? Stafford is a huge talent, better than BP. But winning is the game ODDBALL.

    • @Oddball-57
      @Oddball-57 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@blb4356 that’s right winning like the Super Bowl and Stafford has done so and will again long before and more likely IF Turdy ever sees another one 🤣😂🤣

    • @jestermarcus
      @jestermarcus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man, if Purdy is so bad, how come he's never lost to an NFC West team?

  • @seanwjones07
    @seanwjones07 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stafford for sure over Purdy, imagine Stafford in the 9ers offense. He’d cook!

  • @jacewelker7907
    @jacewelker7907 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disrespect should have seen that coming

  • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
    @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Before they give Matthew a new guaranteed contract, FOR GODS SAKE PLEASE TEACH HIM WERE THE DAM PLAY CLOCK IS!!!!!!! 😮😮😮

    • @Laotzu819
      @Laotzu819 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you seen Sean calling in his monologue plays to Matthew? The play clock is managed by the play caller AND the QB. It not just on MS

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Laotzu819 he changes the play with 8 seconds on the clock, there's a reason why they got Garoppolo McVay is sick and tired of calling time out because Matthew doesn't know where the play clock is I know I have a buddy that works for the Rams and this is exactly what they told me, AND I AGREE.

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Laotzu819 hey momo, I just remembered this, the play clock starts at 40 seconds, mcvay has 16 seconds to give MS the play, so you do the math HOMER,

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Laotzu819 PART 3 , OPPPS I WAS WRONG, the coach has until 15 seconds on the play clock, so your right, but damit can he please know how many seconds on the play clock before he changes the play, , I'm the momo, sorry,

    • @Laotzu819
      @Laotzu819 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All good brother. I really like Stafford. He’s one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I believe we can win another super bowl because of how smart he is. Not to mention his arm.

  • @aaronlorenz8467
    @aaronlorenz8467 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everyone can doubt the RAMS ALL THEY WANT........

  • @tunahelpa5433
    @tunahelpa5433 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Garoppolo should be #4. You said consider all the teams as if they were 1 team. If Garoppolo is there, he's nbr 3.
    The running game will make the pasding game better and vice versa. McVays key is to make the defense guess on every play. A master of disguise!

  • @quychang4471
    @quychang4471 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did Matt Simms just call his dad by his first name?

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do on occasion.

  • @jeffreylytle1563
    @jeffreylytle1563 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Phil "f-ing" Simms...I am honored, wow... ok, now I gotta clarify, was it Phil as Giants qb that got "clothes-lined decapitated" by Kevin Greene rushing off edge beating right tackle? Game was in Anaheim I believe...1986 +/- a couple seasons...

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll ask Phil talk about that next show

  • @insunmnium
    @insunmnium 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Go 🐏!!

  • @williambregon7914
    @williambregon7914 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stafford

  • @alejandrocortes7110
    @alejandrocortes7110 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Purdy, Stafford, Geno, and Kyler last. I'm going of division wins plus stats. Kyler Murray can be so much better if his team was better

  • @zimunda3252
    @zimunda3252 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep disrespecting Geno 🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿

  • @cvshasta
    @cvshasta 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Matt, Shawn McVay has a long losing record against Niners.

    • @nicknaoumovitch342
      @nicknaoumovitch342 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      McVay literally won the last meeting

    • @user-fc3ki3gb7u
      @user-fc3ki3gb7u 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      LA RAMS HAVE A LOMBARDI TROPHY. SANTA CLARA WHINERS NO LOMBARDI TROPHY SINCE THE 90'S.

    • @user-fc3ki3gb7u
      @user-fc3ki3gb7u 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@nicknaoumovitch342 Absolutely 💯

    • @kialee2622
      @kialee2622 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      LAR win over a sorry tiger team

    • @JLM001
      @JLM001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Except in the playoffs. When it really matters.

  • @TheCattledog2
    @TheCattledog2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    K1 is behind Stafford he is better than smith & purdy. Get real

  • @jestermarcus
    @jestermarcus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Jaquiski Tartt could catch, the narrative on Stafford would likely be a lot different.

    • @dudebro2292
      @dudebro2292 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If Ben Skrowneck could catch wide open touchdowns, if Jalen Ramsey can catch pick 6's......see we can also play what ifs.

  • @anthonygunness1531
    @anthonygunness1531 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brock Purdy had a better year but Stafford has that SB and has to do more for his team in order for them to compete.

    • @jarod133
      @jarod133 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or… Stafford is just better!

  • @vanessarussell7048
    @vanessarussell7048 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a freaking joke, putting Kyler Murray at four. You’re saying that Geno Smith is better?!?!?!

    • @SimmsComplete
      @SimmsComplete 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes thats exactly what I said

    • @thatguytony8945
      @thatguytony8945 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SimmsComplete L take though it will taste 100 times sweeter when Kyler proves you wrong

    • @cssproteus
      @cssproteus วันที่ผ่านมา

      What has Kyler shown to be considered better than Geno? Stats, leadership, comeback wins all favor Geno.. won’t be a question after this year.. he may not be Hawks LT solution but he could prove to be the guy for a few years yet.. Kyler out of the league in 3 yrs tops

    • @natebleau5261
      @natebleau5261 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@cssproteus what exactly do you see in Geno? He has always been inconsistent, Geno has already reached his ceiling in his first year as starter for the Seahawks. Murray hasn’t had a chance yet, bad coaching, now they got JG, will see what happens this season.

    • @natebleau5261
      @natebleau5261 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@cssproteusGeno will be lucky to be a starter in 3 years 😂