Elton, by now your cart will need new batteries! I guess even if you never do fix it, at least i got to see you and watch some of your videos. Thank you my friend!
Hi Wayne great video. Looking to install a replacement motor on a 2011 regen series precedent…would these type of motors require my cart to have a lift kit installed. Currently mine doesn’t.
Great video Wayne! Question. Would you recommend upgrading anything else besides a controller if you upgrade the motor? Ex. Solenoid or thicker gauged battery cables? I’m trying to get the most juice out of the motor without spending up on a controller.
Great video but I have the same problem as some others. I have disconnected the wires and removed the 4 bolts and the motor will turn but no amount of wiggling seems to make it move off the spline at all. I read your other response where you say to remove the entire axle and I understand what you're suggesting to do but I'm not sure what's involved to remove the axle. Do you remove the mounting bolts from the spring hangers and the shocks and then jack up the frame? Thanks in advance.
Yes, unfortunately bottom shock nut, and 2 nuts off each u bolt, and unhook brake cables from each rear wheel, drop the rear shakle bolts, and roll the entire assembly out the back. Yes you have to jack up the rear end.
Hello, great video. I wanted to know if you have any explanation of the electrical system of a Club Car Golf with 36 volt batteries and a model 5BC48JB764 engine. Among other questions I have, there is a switch on the forward and reverse lever that does not appear on the electrical diagram sent to me by the manufacturer and I want to know what it is used for. This is connected to the solenoid in its negative position.
In videos, it appears to be an opening in bottom of transaxle; would that flood in and corrode armature shaft to transaxle shaft? Is the field portion of motor hooked onto the armature shaft? Remove ? the brush end of motor?
Hi Wayne great videos and fun to watch. Ive removed a club car precedent electric motor to find its rusted quite badly as been sat outside for several years. Ive manage to clean the worst off the plates inside windings, but need to get the commutator out of its bearing to inspect the brushes which are completely stuck. Any advice on how to remove it (one video on YT shows guy hitting the speed sensor end with 8Lb lump hammer) and is it straightforward to replace once removed
Nick, sorry for thus answer, but i wouldn't mess around with it. The time involved and the money you spend for parts, isnt worth it. You would be better off buying a used take off motor from a company and turn yours in as a core.
Honestly, I would buy a different motor, because the time, energy and frustration from trying to get it off, isn't worth it to me. However, I keep spraying it with rust removed and tapping with a small hammer to get the brushes free. The bearing you can try a press to press it off, I have also taken it to a auto parts store and they pressed the bearing in about 10 minutes .
Hey Wayne awesome video! I have a question I have a 1996 club car and I replaced the brushes in the motor. Somehow I deleted the pictures I took when I removed the motor and now I don’t remember which wires go where! This video was helpful but instead of a blue and orange wire I believe I have a white and orange along with the green and white…any ideas???
of course I have ideas. Since you failed to tell me the voltage of your ds, here are 2 options: a1. green a2. white s1. orange s2. blue a1. green a2. white f1 . blue f2 orange
You need to remove the entire rear axle wheels and all with the motor on it still. Once you've got the axle out of the golf cart turn it on its end and drop the axle from about 2' off the ground drop it a couple times and the motor will fall off
Hello Wayne, I have exactly the same problem as you on the video to get the engine out. my engine runs like yours after unscrewing the 4 screws. How did you do ? by tapping on it? or have you found another solution? thank you Bertrand
Don't pry on it. Get all screws out 4 or 5, get motor so it will turn. Then grab the end of motor and start wiggling it up and down. If that doesn't work, remove entire rear axle with the wheels still on it. Turn axle on the end, resting on 1 wheel. Put a blanket under it to lessen the fall, and pick entire axle up about 2 feet and drop it on the wheel. Motor should fall off then
Hi Wayne, I saw your OBC replacement for a 2005 DS Club Car. I have upgraded my OBC from version 1 to 5. I think I have it wired properly. The cart runs and shows 8 of 10 bars on the meter. Sadly charge doesn't switch into charging mode when plugged in! Do you have any suggestions? Thanks Waka
Sounds like the wiring. Are you sure you got the correct obc? If you wired it exactly as the old one, and the 3/8 amp fuse is good, check the charge receptacle. Also try your charger on someone else's cart and also try someone else's charger on your cart.
Will a precedent motor fit up in an order model ds that is being converted away from resistors. I can get a used controller, solenoid and motor from an 07 precedent cart, but cant figure out if it will fit up. I know I'll need other componentsand harness to complete the change
Can you show where / how to swap out the motor guide ring ? my club car makes a rattling sound when I let off the pedal , I am told it is a guide ring issue , thanks
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 , I think it's a 2007 model has a slight rattle when I decelerate , just sort of annoying but don't want it to lead to further problems ,thanks for your reply
Don't confuse this with a motor centering issue. You need to remove the motor, and look inside the end of the motor shift, there may be a small rubber star shaped piece in there
Hey, great video! I need help! I’m trying to remove the motor but when I unbolted and went to slide it off, the inside stayed on the shaft and just the casing is sliding off. Is there something that would hold that on? ScRed to mess it up yanking on it
No, it will come off. Leave it on, unhook the brake cables, undo the u bolts, and remove entire rear axle with the wheels on it. Then stand axle up on one tire, and pick up the entire assembly about 18" and drop it to the floor on the wheel, and it will fall off.
This way will definitely get the motor off, and it's not that much work, it just sounds like it. Other than that, you risk damaging it by beating or prying on it.
Hello Wayne, what if you tightened the motor on with the bolts and not pushed it all the way in . Would the motor make a clanking noise under a load only? Asking for a friend.
There is a kit they make for motor rattle, on 2 certain years of old ds carts. Im out of town right now for another 5 days, or I could look up what years that was. You definitely don't want to run a cart without the motor bolted up tight!
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I was told I needed a guide for it. I will go back out and see if I can push it further in and see if I'm just not all the way in. Thanks for the help and I enjoyed hearing the younger guys in the background while you were struggling with the motor. Lol
If for some reason you cannot get the motor to mate all the way up, you might try taking it back off, and pull out the rubber piece that is stuffed down inside the shank.
Grate job Sir. You help a lot , cose I was looking for a lot if posibles caused of fails , I swithc computer, selenoide, module ( betwen selenoide and computer) and nothing happens , but my last step was switch the motor just to see if this the problem, thanks a lot for share 🤜🤛
I have a club car and when going forward it will jerk when starting out once it gets going it’s fine, then I slow down to stop and start to go again it jerks again, any ideas what that might be?
got a free club car 2007 presedent i have been restoring it. the motor wont come off. now mine you this is my only means of transportation. i found out the cart was under water. need to buy a new motor and maybe cut out the old unless you have another answer for me to remove the motor.
Make sure all the bolts are removed, including the 1/2" bolt on the very bottom. At that time the entire motor should spin. For sure way to remove it, is to remove the entire rear axle, with the motor and the 2 wheels still on it. Then turn that onto 1 side so 1 wheel is laying FLAT in the ground. Then lift that entire assembly up about 18 inches and drop it to the ground. Do that a few times and the motor will fall off.
im assuming you have already removed all the bolts, and wires, and removed the main positive cable from your battery pack? Sometimes there is one 1/2" bolt on the outside bottom of the motor that is hard to see, make sure you got that one out. Try to rotate motor, and you can tap on the case, but don't hit it so hard that you dent it. Might have to keep spray ing some bolt loosened on it and letting it sit, then keep repeating this. Lastly, what will work for sure, is to remove the entire rear axle, tires and all. Then pick up the axle assembly and slam it on the floor a few times, slamming on 1 of the tires. Watch your feet, because the motor is going to fall off to the floor.
I have a 05 precedent IQ 48 volt(4 NEW 12volt batteries), the motor burn up so i bought the D&D 170-505-0002 replacement motor hooked everything up like it was and all i get it a solenoid click, any advice on what check out?? Thanks
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 not really sure how, it has 51 volts on both sides of the solenoid, one side is red from batteries, the other side is yellow that y’s off with a smaller yellow wire to the red side of the solenoid and a bigger yellow wire to one leg of the controller that also from there y’s off with a bigger green wire to the A1 side of the motor. Hope that makes sense lol
If you have a resistor on the solenoid, you need to remove it in order to check voltage. Check both sides for voltage while stepping on pedal and also without stepping on it. Then remove all wires from solenoid and check the big terminals for continuity.
I still never had my golf cart fix but I still watch your videos and enjoy them maybe one day I’ll hit Lucky and fix it but I
Elton, by now your cart will need new batteries! I guess even if you never do fix it, at least i got to see you and watch some of your videos.
Thank you my friend!
Hi Wayne great video. Looking to install a replacement motor on a 2011 regen series precedent…would these type of motors require my cart to have a lift kit installed. Currently mine doesn’t.
Great video Wayne! Question. Would you recommend upgrading anything else besides a controller if you upgrade the motor? Ex. Solenoid or thicker gauged battery cables? I’m trying to get the most juice out of the motor without spending up on a controller.
If you are not upgrading the controller to more amps, then you really don't need to upgrade anything else. The controller is where you get more amps.
Thanks Wayne!
Sometimes it's cheaper to upgrade the controller than the motor.
Great video but I have the same problem as some others. I have disconnected the wires and removed the 4 bolts and the motor will turn but no amount of wiggling seems to make it move off the spline at all. I read your other response where you say to remove the entire axle and I understand what you're suggesting to do but I'm not sure what's involved to remove the axle. Do you remove the mounting bolts from the spring hangers and the shocks and then jack up the frame? Thanks in advance.
Yes, unfortunately bottom shock nut, and 2 nuts off each u bolt, and unhook brake cables from each rear wheel, drop the rear shakle bolts, and roll the entire assembly out the back. Yes you have to jack up the rear end.
Thanks.
Hello, great video. I wanted to know if you have any explanation of the electrical system of a Club Car Golf with 36 volt batteries and a model 5BC48JB764 engine. Among other questions I have, there is a switch on the forward and reverse lever that does not appear on the electrical diagram sent to me by the manufacturer and I want to know what it is used for. This is connected to the solenoid in its negative position.
Send me a email or text, telling me the year of the cart, the voltage, and if it has a vglide, pot box etc, and i can send you a wiring diagram.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 ok, thanks. What is your email?
In videos, it appears to be an opening in bottom of transaxle; would that flood in and corrode armature shaft to transaxle shaft? Is the field portion of motor hooked onto the armature shaft? Remove ? the brush end of motor?
Look at my last comment about dropping the rear axle assembly on the tire and the motor should fall off
Hi Wayne great videos and fun to watch. Ive removed a club car precedent electric motor to find its rusted quite badly as been sat outside for several years. Ive manage to clean the worst off the plates inside windings, but need to get the commutator out of its bearing to inspect the brushes which are completely stuck. Any advice on how to remove it (one video on YT shows guy hitting the speed sensor end with 8Lb lump hammer) and is it straightforward to replace once removed
Nick, sorry for thus answer, but i wouldn't mess around with it. The time involved and the money you spend for parts, isnt worth it.
You would be better off buying a used take off motor from a company and turn yours in as a core.
Honestly, I would buy a different motor, because the time, energy and frustration from trying to get it off, isn't worth it to me.
However, I keep spraying it with rust removed and tapping with a small hammer to get the brushes free. The bearing you can try a press to press it off, I have also taken it to a auto parts store and they pressed the bearing in about 10 minutes .
Wayne, does the new motor require the use of the 1/2 inch bolt? It appears to not have that same mounting bracket as the old motor
Don't need it. Club car stopped using that bolt, so don't worry if you do not have it.
Hey Wayne awesome video! I have a question I have a 1996 club car and I replaced the brushes in the motor. Somehow I deleted the pictures I took when I removed the motor and now I don’t remember which wires go where! This video was helpful but instead of a blue and orange wire I believe I have a white and orange along with the green and white…any ideas???
of course I have ideas.
Since you failed to tell me the voltage of your ds, here are 2 options:
a1. green
a2. white
s1. orange
s2. blue
a1. green
a2. white
f1 . blue
f2 orange
Hi Wayne; Replacing motor; motor turns on shaft but can't get it off shaft??? Nearest golf cart repair is 100 mi away.
You need to remove the entire rear axle wheels and all with the motor on it still. Once you've got the axle out of the golf cart turn it on its end and drop the axle from about 2' off the ground drop it a couple times and the motor will fall off
Great Video Sir ! How different is it to change the motor of a Club car DS 2004? Thanks again
No difference in the procedure, same exact procedure.
Thanks for your help 👍
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Hello Wayne,
I have exactly the same problem as you on the video to get the engine out. my engine runs like yours after unscrewing the 4 screws. How did you do ? by tapping on it? or have you found another solution? thank you Bertrand
Don't pry on it. Get all screws out 4 or 5, get motor so it will turn. Then grab the end of motor and start wiggling it up and down.
If that doesn't work, remove entire rear axle with the wheels still on it.
Turn axle on the end, resting on 1 wheel. Put a blanket under it to lessen the fall, and pick entire axle up about 2 feet and drop it on the wheel. Motor should fall off then
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks a lot !
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Hi Wayne, I saw your OBC replacement for a 2005 DS Club Car. I have upgraded my OBC from version 1 to 5. I think I have it wired properly. The cart runs and shows 8 of 10 bars on the meter. Sadly charge doesn't switch into charging mode when plugged in! Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
Waka
Sounds like the wiring.
Are you sure you got the correct obc?
If you wired it exactly as the old one, and the 3/8 amp fuse is good, check the charge receptacle.
Also try your charger on someone else's cart and also try someone else's charger on your cart.
Will a precedent motor fit up in an order model ds that is being converted away from resistors. I can get a used controller, solenoid and motor from an 07 precedent cart, but cant figure out if it will fit up. I know I'll need other componentsand harness to complete the change
No, they are 2 different types of motors, 1 is series and 1 is sepex
Wayne, could I use this video as a guide to replace my Club Car DS motor? Or is it too dissimilar?
yes
Can you show where / how to swap out the motor guide ring ? my club car makes a rattling sound when I let off the pedal , I am told it is a guide ring issue , thanks
what year is your ds?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 , I think it's a 2007 model has a slight rattle when I decelerate , just sort of annoying but don't want it to lead to further problems ,thanks for your reply
Don't confuse this with a motor centering issue.
You need to remove the motor, and look inside the end of the motor shift, there may be a small rubber star shaped piece in there
Hey, great video! I need help! I’m trying to remove the motor but when I unbolted and went to slide it off, the inside stayed on the shaft and just the casing is sliding off. Is there something that would hold that on? ScRed to mess it up yanking on it
No, it will come off.
Leave it on, unhook the brake cables, undo the u bolts, and remove entire rear axle with the wheels on it.
Then stand axle up on one tire, and pick up the entire assembly about 18" and drop it to the floor on the wheel, and it will fall off.
Thank you so much for your response. Crazy to have to do all that…but I guess I better get on it! Have a great one
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I just ran into the same issue. Is there any way to get it off other than removing the axle?
This way will definitely get the motor off, and it's not that much work, it just sounds like it.
Other than that, you risk damaging it by beating or prying on it.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 have the axle off and are dropping it and the motor isn’t moving
Hey Wayne, I just bought Red Hawk Mcor1. Motor Q. Can I replace brushes on EJ4-4001?
Sure, why wouldn't you be able to?
Hello Wayne,
what if you tightened the motor on with the bolts and not pushed it all the way in . Would the motor make a clanking noise under a load only?
Asking for a friend.
Is this an older ds?
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 yes it's a 91 that had a D&D on it.
There is a kit they make for motor rattle, on 2 certain years of old ds carts.
Im out of town right now for another 5 days, or I could look up what years that was.
You definitely don't want to run a cart without the motor bolted up tight!
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 I was told I needed a guide for it. I will go back out and see if I can push it further in and see if I'm just not all the way in. Thanks for the help and I enjoyed hearing the younger guys in the background while you were struggling with the motor. Lol
If for some reason you cannot get the motor to mate all the way up, you might try taking it back off, and pull out the rubber piece that is stuffed down inside the shank.
Hi my bolts was very rusted and all 4 broke! I did the two wrenchs… can i weld a bolt on them ? I can’t afford to replace motor
No, they are brass.
If you cant afford another motor, just replace the brushes, its alot cheaper.
Hi Wayne, I am looking for a rebuilt engine or a place that I can have my engine rebuilt for a gas 2010 Club Car Presedent . Any suggestions?
I only work on electric carts. If you are in Georgia, I can recommend someone.
Grate job Sir. You help a lot , cose I was looking for a lot if posibles caused of fails , I swithc computer, selenoide, module ( betwen selenoide and computer) and nothing happens , but my last step was switch the motor just to see if this the problem, thanks a lot for share 🤜🤛
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I have a club car and when going forward it will jerk when starting out once it gets going it’s fine, then I slow down to stop and start to go again it jerks again, any ideas what that might be?
I would say either a battery issue or a problem with the delivery system ( mcor, vglide, etc)
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thank you !
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got a free club car 2007 presedent i have been restoring it. the motor wont come off. now mine you this is my only means of transportation. i found out the cart was under water. need to buy a new motor and maybe cut out the old unless you have another answer for me to remove the motor.
Make sure all the bolts are removed, including the 1/2" bolt on the very bottom. At that time the entire motor should spin.
For sure way to remove it, is to remove the entire rear axle, with the motor and the 2 wheels still on it. Then turn that onto 1 side so 1 wheel is laying FLAT in the ground.
Then lift that entire assembly up about 18 inches and drop it to the ground. Do that a few times and the motor will fall off.
Looking dapper
Do you know who makes Clubcar's original motors?
Some are GE motors and most are ADC
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 Thank you! Do you know for e-z-go as well? And which one is more reliable?
you can't inner swap motors between club cars and ezgos.
The most reliable motor is the 3 phase ac motors that they are using in the newer rxvs.
Hey i have a club car precedent and i put new motor i can here it trying to move but it dose not
hey . Did it move before? Why are you charging the motor?
Explain what you " hear " ?
Can someone recommend me a motor upgrade for a 2003 club car ds? 36 volts
Plumquick motors
Where is the motor reset button located on a 2005 club car precedent electric golf car
There is no reset button of any kind. The only button is the run/tow switch.
I have a 1991 club car and I need help to get the motor out what do I do just beet the hell out of it thanks
im assuming you have already removed all the bolts, and wires, and removed the main positive cable from your battery pack?
Sometimes there is one 1/2" bolt on the outside bottom of the motor that is hard to see, make sure you got that one out.
Try to rotate motor, and you can tap on the case, but don't hit it so hard that you dent it. Might have to keep spray ing some bolt loosened on it and letting it sit, then keep repeating this.
Lastly, what will work for sure, is to remove the entire rear axle, tires and all. Then pick up the axle assembly and slam it on the floor a few times, slamming on 1 of the tires. Watch your feet, because the motor is going to fall off to the floor.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 thanks you for replying but I just got it out I just kept prying it out to a came out
Good for you my friend!
2015 precedent; was flooded up to floor board.
Oops I run a 48v cart with 4 x 12volt batteries
Re elect Linsley he's a good 👍 senator
I have a 05 precedent IQ 48 volt(4 NEW 12volt batteries), the motor burn up so i bought the D&D 170-505-0002 replacement motor hooked everything up like it was and all i get it a solenoid click, any advice on what check out?? Thanks
Verify the solenoid is good, just because it clicks doesn't mean it's good.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 not really sure how, it has 51 volts on both sides of the solenoid, one side is red from batteries, the other side is yellow that y’s off with a smaller yellow wire to the red side of the solenoid and a bigger yellow wire to one leg of the controller that also from there y’s off with a bigger green wire to the A1 side of the motor. Hope that makes sense lol
It also has two small wires solid blue and blue with white strip that are also 51 volt so everything thing on the solenoid has 51volt
If you have a resistor on the solenoid, you need to remove it in order to check voltage.
Check both sides for voltage while stepping on pedal and also without stepping on it.
Then remove all wires from solenoid and check the big terminals for continuity.
@@waynemartin.waynesgolfcart4900 its ended up being the controller